 ... ... nature and green concerns about threats to the global economy. It is therefore important that every nation, including our dear Africa and our country Nigeria, should focus on contributing to joint solution to this crisis for a more sustainable and resilient future. Poor leadership, depleting economy and insecurity across Africa cannot be continually blamed on colonization as observed from the rather insensitive thrust in public commentary during the passing of our Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. Post-colonial Africa have been nothing short of a field system that has slowly been constructed to function as a blame game. Majority of the countries in the world, like Singapore, were conquered and colonized, but despite this, they were able to rebuild their systems and rose to the place of global relevance with great economic power, which gives a clear example of responsible leadership and expectations. Nigeria and many other countries in Africa cannot continue dwelling in the shadows of the past. Our leaders are certain with the responsibility of managing and grooming our resources, nurturing it to the point of becoming a dependable asset for advancement of the global economy through contributing a good ecosystem for balanced leadership and progressive policies. Since we are faced with interlocking challenges, the world needs our input to savage global crisis and we can only do so by firstly addressing our own problems, ranging from our educational institutions in plain ten listening to us, revamping our health care, boosting our security and creating policies that support businesses, especially SMEs and fighting corruption, raising our stakes in plain international politics or diplomatic affairs by being willing to channel our own grown or developed resources or solutions in tackling global crisis, being intentional and mindful about our images as a nation. Just imagine taking a court clash from Nigeria to another country, the United Arab Emirates, instead of joining other great Nigerians in solving issues of global concern and shining our light as Nigerians and Africans. Unless as we conclude, let us ponder on these words of the late Her Majesty Elizabeth II by the grace of God of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of its other realms and territories, Queen, head of the common words, defender of defeat from 1952 to 2022, when life seems hard, the courageous do not lie down and accept defeat. Instead, they are all the more determined to struggle for a better future. This simply means that the buck stops at our tables. My fellow Nigerians and their Africans will be responsible and effectively lead transformative solutions to these interlocking global challenges. A lot won't park. First of all, I don't think that we can brush aside the, how do you say, the problem that colonialism brought to us. Look at it, it was in the last century in the 19th, that people who did not know us gathered together to begin to draw maps to carve out countries. I mean, at that time, who was representing Nigeria? Some company which had been given a license by the Queen. That's how- What year was that? I believe the 18th something. I think it's not the Queen. You were talking about the ancestors of the Queen. Oh yes, yes. You know when we talk about the Queen, I think of her as- Because it was in a time that they actually allowed countries to be independent. Yes, you see, it's an institution. So when I talk about the Queen, I talk about her as an institution. So she gave a license to some company to come to Nigeria to ravage. And then they went to the Berlin conference like other people. I hope that's what you mean. Yes, and started sharing and all that. And this Nigeria of today goes back just to 1914. It's quite a young- That was before the birth of the Queen Elizabeth II. No, I'm not blaming the Queen. I'm blaming me. If I talk about the Queen now, it's the institution of the her. So Nigeria is just- From 1914, we were amalgamated into one country. But even then, the civil service was different. For the North, different civil service from the South civil service. So it was just to us independence and we started really coming together. What do you really expect? There is some valid blame for colonialism. We can do better. We can move beyond that. But it will take time. That's what I say to people. Different people coming together. I see you spoke of Singapore there. Singapore split. Singapore split from Malaysia and one other country. And they became different countries. And that's a country of 14, a population of about four. Is it up to Lagos? No. I doubt whether Singapore is as big as Lagos. And then you have different- You have only three ethnic groups. I think the Chinese, the Malays and the Indians. I think the Chinese, the Malays and the Indians. I think the Chinese, the Malays and the Indians. My God, here over 250 tribes. That's the more reason why we have to do better. What I'm saying is that with 250 people, it's more difficult to merge them together. The problems we are having now, our children will look at us really like American pioneers. They would recognize that these people had a lot of problems. Our children will do better. But the problems we are having now, they are to be expected. This is a very big country. Many, many tribes. I remember when I was in university, one of the courses, the political science lecturer that I was doing, the course that I was doing as a lecturer, he kept teaching us ethnicity. That was a major problem in Nigeria. I've grown to find that that is true. It's one of the major problems. We will get over it. But we have a lot of history in front of us. We should blame colonialism. Everyone that blames colonialism has a point. Can we improve? We can. But it will take time. It's taking too much time if you ask me. No, I don't think so. The truth of the matter is that I think colonialism, whether it's negative or positive, there are some positive aspects of it, true western civilization. You are this kind of person that like telling people come. You are responsible for your own self. You have to be responsible. Who put you down? I want to hear your thoughts. How long have we been blaming? These guys, they are there. They have come and gone. What are we doing now to solve our problems? Since the Majesty Queen passed, there have been a lot of people talking about blaming lots of things. They ruled us badly. They took freedom away from us. They did this and did that. People were so insensitive on Twitter, bashing the Queen and things like that. The Irish were more insensitive. The Argentinians were more insensitive. I think it's just ludicrous. It's the lack of emotional intelligence to talk about things like that at that particular time. However, I'm going to come from the angle in your script where you said our national image. Who are the people that went to Dubai to go and fight, to just go take core activities into that place? What happens is, somebody who is just trying, because again, when you think about the idea of Japan, I should be able to go work in Singapore or do a program for six months and then come back. I should connect Dakar from there. I should be able to go to Senegal, come back to Turkey and then go to the UK. Why should people go into another country to be an issue? But again, when they search other people, and the way they search Nigerians are different because you guys have a history of just messing things up. That's why people say things like I'm going to give my child another passport or I'm going to have another passport so that when I'm going to another country, do you know there are some countries that when you think about economic strength, when you think about that giantism, they're not close to Nigeria. They're not close to Nigeria but when you use those passports and apply to some countries, they respect those countries because they mentioned Singapore, they are so little, there are some African countries that are so little but the respect that they have on the global space is massive. But Nigeria is so big, but our respect is so little. They don't respect us, so to speak. They fear us because of what we can do. It's more fear. But if you think about it, who are those causing those things? I would say people that it's not, again we have internet issues, leadership problems, but individualistic problems exist. Who are those just littering everywhere? Who are those going to another country trying to swindle people? They practically ask you to do that, you did that of your own volition. So I just think that we want to just before we go to this, and just one question for both of you. The poor imagery, the poor imagery in UAE where this court clash went to go and disgrace themself, not us. Unfortunately, we have to see beer. Who caused it? Was it the leadership or the colonial masters? To not waste time, it's individualistic. What's your thought on this? Yeah, basically in the national building we must really find that niche of seeing it as it must be a bottom-top approach, not top-bottom approach. The reason is this, just like the other speakers say there, it's about individualism. The bad attitude of individualism has really resulted in, whereby one person is guilty of something, denying another hundred people of enjoying the same thing they're supposed to get normally. So it's about the individuals. That's why we have to look at a national building to be a kind of collective effort right from the leader and the lead, the civil servants and the artisans, even they have and they have not. And you can see, look how it happened in Dubai recently, where Dubai used to be where you go, you get visa on a driver, now it's even less if you are not social, so here you can't get it. So a lot of guys that are doing wonderfully well, that are doing the legit business, have been denying access to a lot of it because of the few bad ones. So where do we go from here? It's very simple. We just have to get back to the drawing board and get it right this time. That is change has to begin with each and everyone of us. That is from right from the house. Remember there is something that is to call a social stratification there. We need to get it right from individuals, right to the house, right to the society and it goes into the society at large. You see the image of Nigeria as a whole has been battered. But at the same time, when you hear a lot of doomed stories from nowhere, we just hear a lot of big dreams, we just come. I remember we were busy talking of the bad image some people have written for us in Dubai. Then there was this lady's name that won the 100m race. She just came up with doing well and celebrating the whole of Putin's about Nigeria. It shows that each and every Nigeria if you can go back to the drawing board, if I am good, the next neighbor is good, the next person is what is good. All of this will culminate into something very big and the image of the nation will be better for it. Very much to demand. So here is the stand. As we are Nigerians, let's focus on change beginning with us individually. Colonialism and colonialism is in Nigeria at this point should be responsible for we Nigerians. Still we will be talking about the death of the queen, Nigerians past and future. Stay with us.