 Hey, what's up everybody drew here that anxiety guy calm back with Billy Billy was busy doing his homework Billy from anxiety united calm for those of you don't know I don't know how you could not know by now so considering where such a long running smash hit So we're back for another episode and We're gonna We're gonna change gears we were gonna talk about one topic and then at the 11th hour I think we've decided to switch a little bit because I am sick, but What are you gonna do my ears are all plugged up my sinuses are all plugged up I'm gonna try not to cough up along while we're doing this because that would be rude And it's funny that Just just before we went live you came in and said that you were feeling like that And I I said it's weird because like the last say 48 hours. I've been feeling it right and I Pretty much guarantee that I am adding so much more anxiety to the fact that I have a cold than you are That I would not argue with you that is probably true That is not something that that I do necessarily have never done it But anyway, it seemed like that would be a good topic then for us to talk about today since both of us are feeling under the Yeah, it's a good time to bring that up. So Tell me what are you feeling? How do you feel physically and what is it? What does it do and the first I noticed was the other morning? I just woke up and just felt a bit disorientated a bit off balance not too bad It's not you knows, but then like within about an hour of being downstairs. It's just the heat I feel like a raise in my body temperature And then I begin questioning like What the hell's going on? Is it a cold? Is it something gals? Is it just anxiety? What the freaking hell's happening to me and it's just the question you do I just seem to fuel it and just add more questions and It's the irrational fears It's so strange like I I can have like twinges and stuff like that And I don't necessarily react and even though I know that it's only a cold Because I have a snotty nose maybe a bit of a sore throat, right? And I know that that's all it is but still there's just something at the back of my mind that says I'm in some kind of danger from it. What if yeah, yeah, what if okay? So yes, those symptoms are a kind of feeling this is good We'll compare what we got going on here and like the difference and how we're dealing with it. So For me it started really the night before yesterday So today's Thursday, so that would have been like Tuesday night for me and I could feel it my throat started getting really scratchy and kind of sore and My my sinuses just kind of felt swollen and inflamed and then yesterday my ears started getting plugged up So right now both of my ears are pretty plugged and my left ear hurts. I may have an ear infection I've grown to the doctor and a little bit to find out but So the ear thing means that I'm getting a little bit dizzy when I turn my head a little bit That's what I've been getting. Yeah, let's see. You're a little bit out of sync. Let's see if you get back Sorry guys just there you go, okay Yeah, now I can tell we're back in sync. So yeah, so for me, it's I might have a slight fever I feel a little bit a little bit warm, but generally speaking like you said, it's just I probably have an ear infection Whatever it's annoying to me It's it is it is an annoyance for me. I have something that that I Have plans for tonight that that I really don't want to like get out of I really I want to go and do What needs to be done tonight and what I want to do tonight? And for me, it's just an annoyance. So I think it's interesting how how it's impacting us differently It's weird like because you say that like I'd forgot but like the just moving my head slightly and you just get it's not a dizziness For me, it's it's just like an off balance. Maybe I just feel like I'm not a hundred percent there Or it's I don't know whether I can focus properly or something. Sure, but it's just like when I get that Even though I know why it's happening or I think I do like my ears or obviously I'm feeling that kind of stuff as well Right, but it just triggers something else. It sparks something. It's just that concern the worry Even though even though I'm sitting here and I know and at the time that it's happening I I know I know why it's happening, but it's still there's just something so do you find that there's a difference between that twinge of anxiety or feeling the anxiety levels rise when you're Physically ill versus when you're not is it more likely to take hold if you're feeling under the weather. I think yeah Yeah, it just means that I'm more focused inward. I guess that's probably what it is I think about how I'm feeling more which then just carries over into that I suppose when I start inward thinking yeah, it usually ends up going down that same path I think that makes sense because when we don't feel well, you know regardless of what's wrong at the store Throw to whatever cold like we both seem to have You know, you can't help it notice how you feel it's just right It's in your face all the time like this is really annoying and it's right there So you can't help but think about it I guess and so if you're subject to a little bit of health anxiety because I think this is really probably what this is all About yeah, yeah You know, it's hard not to think about how you feel and then when you're thinking about how you feel Do those negative and irrational thoughts start to take hold Yeah, so the question probably would be what makes what makes it different now. I've never had I will admit I've never dealt with health anxiety So it's hard for me to say. I know I know that that's been an issue for you on and off. Yeah, so But tell I it's a bit of a foreign concept to me. So I can't speak that intelligently about it, but What you're asking me to be intelligent. I'm asking you to be intelligent young man. Yes, I know you have it in you At least once a week. I know it's possible. So so what is it? What is health anxiety? Well for me, it's I don't know I've seen other people refer to it as being afraid of getting Some kind of disease or whatever it is Sure, but I think those people would be afraid of getting something like that It's just the irrational the irrational fear of it like convincing yourself that you probably have got it You know, maybe check in blood pressure and heart rate and find a Abnormal mole or something on your skin and then you immediately just think the worst, right? That's probably health anxiety, but I also get it with like any kind of sensation So even just like weak legs or anything like that. I go down the path of This is more something more sinister. Yeah, that's the thing for me It's like even though I know this is just a cold There's always just something that makes me feel like there's a danger Yeah, or it's gonna go further than just having the runny nose You know, yeah, it makes sense And do you feel like it's do you feel like those thoughts are more of a an Immediate danger like something really bad is gonna happen now or it's an indicator that you have some I think yeah It's a serious affliction. Yeah, it's a gradual thing for me Okay, that's what it's it seems to like because it happened last night I just felt under the weather with a sitting eating dinner and then went and sat on the sofa and just Tried to relax for a bit, but I just it just it builds and builds and I'm constantly thinking What's going on or how am I feeling? That's probably the thing I'm sitting there questioning like am I all right now and then when I if I am all right at the time when I think Am I all right? It usually triggers something and then I think oh no here. We go interesting Okay, so even when you think am I okay, and you're feeling okay. Yeah Yeah, I can just just the the concept of actually bringing my attention to it Yeah, it can actually start the cycle and then what I find is it doesn't actually usually end until I reach the point of Panic usually really that's where it goes. Yeah. Yeah, I would say it's either that or sleep or maybe if I am feeling In tune if I can go and relax for a bit like maybe do a relaxation thing Yeah, but usually it has to escalate to a panic Maybe not a full-blown like off the scale panic But just a enough to make me hit that peak right and then Level out and as crazy as this sounds does that help? Is it sort of like a release valve? Weird because I'll like when I can feel it when I can feel it bubbling. I'm actually want that panic to come so I can then Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've had many times where I felt like that like during the day If it's I can feel it. I just feel uneasy Then I would rather just have the panic attack now. Yeah, and then no And I wonder if the difference there and again not having a lot of personal experience with it But you know if you're forced into a situation where you're out somewhere that makes you uncomfortable You can escape to the car or go home But if you're L you can't really you know, you can't escape that my ears are plugged. I can't get away from it Yeah, yeah, yeah So that that could be it too and maybe that's why in your situation just the actual release of having a panic Yeah, yeah, you know might might help So I think with this And again, I've heard many descriptions and yours is pretty accurate in terms of what people get fixated on when they have health anxiety and It's always comes down to it's a different thing. It's the cognitive part of cognitive behavior therapy It's what I'm saying. Yeah Self-talk it really is because in the end what's fueling that I think it's it's entirely cognitive It's yes, the physical sensations, but you know, we all get sick from time to time And how do those negative thought patterns take root and continue to snowball or you're not be able to let go They just get stuck in that and I know people who have convinced themselves of some pretty horrible things You know, they've got the cold and been absolutely convinced they have stomach cancer or they have yeah, yeah Just some sort of multiple sclerosis. I've heard a lot of different things and I think most most anxiety sufferers would say that They've had all of those things. Yes, at least because that's the yeah Yeah, that's and people are still convinced like I'm still convinced at times that I have serious things I said it to you before we went live like the last 48 hours. I've just been thinking how can this just be anxiety But I'm in that I've said it so many times like when I Mentioned am I the only person that feels like this all the time and I'm back there again Like thinking am I the only person that feels like this all the time but two weeks ago or a week ago when we did a podcast I didn't bloody feel like this, but it's so weird like when you're in the moment I'm still convincing myself that it's always like this And I know that it's not Yeah, even though you can actually look at video of yourself. Yeah, that was me feeling really good last week Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think again the wild card is you do physically, you know You've got something you have a cold something is wrong your throat is scratchy your nose is runny and Yeah, and you know, so it puts you in your own head and focuses you inward and all those things So so what do we do about it? I mean really in the end? I think the question is and I get asked this a lot like how do I deal with health anxiety and not having had direct experience It could be a little difficult, but I think the mechanism really here is Learning those cognitive tools how to identify Those negative thoughts and those negative thought patterns as irrational thoughts how to how to Identify them and then either learn to dismiss them or to replace them with other thoughts And in this case, I think they're there it would be health related I suppose the negative thoughts are going to be health related. How could this just be anxiety like you were saying? You know like I'm dizzy so that it must be something very bad is going to happen And I know that when I was like at my worst and there were times when I had to deal with some very obsessive type thinking on a lot of different topics What I learned was and this was a little bit of exhausting, but I'll share the experience anyway It's not specifically health related for me I had other intrusive thoughts that were just constantly in my head all day long and I would literally I had a therapist who made me sit down and say okay Well, write me a list of things that you like And and it used to freak me out because I'm like, oh my god I was feeling so low that I like bread. I couldn't think of anything. She's like no It doesn't have to be like nirvana. Just give me something like, you know, what do you like about your car? I'm like well the seats have heat in the winter. That's nice. She goes write it down And and for the longest time on my phone I would keep that list in a note I probably still have it on my phone most likely and it was a list of five or six things and she said Well, when you start to feel those thoughts Take the list out, you know and you have to do two things number one a thought is just a thought It's not reality I control my thoughts and I can choose to think something else and I would have to literally Repeat that in my head over and over and over as I went throughout my day and it was freaking exhausting, dude I'm not I will not lie. Yeah. And look at that list and like, oh, yeah The heated seats in my car or like listening to my kids playing or you know This is a song that I like and I would you know, I was kind of going through the motions But it taught me that I could control my thoughts And I think When it comes to health anxiety, we're probably looking at a similar type of thing that was just how you'd approach it I think so. Yeah I think so does that make sense? Yeah 100% it is it's totally about the way that you perceive Whatever it is the sensation or right? That's totally what it's down to I think that Go on Well, the wild card here though is that at the moment if you're dealing with health anxiety because you're ill Which is the reason why we did this topic today Yeah You you do feel like crap physically at the moment. So you can't you know for me I learned to do that strictly cognitively the thoughts themselves were the problem Um whereas I think maybe in your situation today, for instance, it's the thoughts that arise from the physical just feeling Yeah, yeah badly. Yeah. Yeah So, you know, we you'd have to learn to To just keep reinforcing the idea that well, yes An Occam's razor is our friend like all else being equal the seamless explanation is usually the right one So like do you think you you may be caught a cold? Because your kids are in school picking up germs Yes, or do you think you have some sort of like alien cancer that no one's ever heard of that will kill you The the odds are much better that you have a cold, right? I think something that I was thinking about because we talk so much about like doing the exposure stuff and The stuff for it and that's something that I've always sort of focused on was like gauging how I gauging my success on how far or how long I can be out of the house for And I've really kind of neglected Caring for myself like nutrition Lifestyle the things that we've discussed before sure and then I sit here at home And I feel like crap even if I'm not feeling like if I'm not got a cold or anything, right? I can sit home feel lethargic dizzy or whatever And then I think oh If I go out the door and walk 200 yards today, that's going to make me feel better Which it might right but the fact that I'm eating junk food and not sleeping properly and not exercising and not taking Down time, you know that kind of stuff is also contributing It is so I think like discussing this and how things are in that if you actually take more care of yourself You might you might not find yourself in the position where you're experiencing the Sensations or whatever that's triggering that stuff in the first place I mean, yeah, that's probably true I mean unless you physically get ill like like we appear to both be right now But yes, like lethargic or tired or aches and pains like yeah, you can some sometimes you can prevent those things from happening If you just would you take care of yourself? Would you say that like health anxiety would usually stem from an actual sensation or a symptom? I it's hard for me to say because I've never really had health anxiety, but but for what I say for me It probably is there's always there's got to be some defining factor or some What takes it off something? Yeah, that you think is something more dangerous I think in the communication that I've had with many people over the years and when I get asked about health anxiety It usually is triggered by Either an illness of some kind or even just You know a feeling that that you didn't have before like oh my leg hurts today. It didn't hurt yesterday It's funny. You should say that My shoulder has been hurting for a week Oh But that's a weird one because it doesn't really bother me like it really it actually really hurts I wake up in the morning and my shoulder the pain that i'm getting in my shoulder is ridiculous Yeah, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. That's so interesting. I've had it before I've had it quite a few times and it just passed like maybe I've slept on it. Yeah a bit weird But it doesn't bother me. I find that fascinating. Yeah, and that'll send you kind of up there Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's and I find that you know, I wish well if I could figure that stuff out, you know I'd be a very very wealthy man, but I could said that always amazes me that why does your shoulder pain not bother you? But but the runny nose does yeah, that's amazing But so I think you're right like if you focus and sometimes we get caught in this like I know I did too When I was at my worst I would focus just on the exposure like getting out driving doing the things that were difficult for me And sometimes you forget about the other stuff like the cognitive and mental stuff is just as important I'm gonna mention it again, but that the anxiety and phobia workbook. That's where I've actually realized that I was sitting reading it last night not feeling great And then I'm reading stuff like take 20 minutes out every day to do some kind of relaxation Yeah, do 30 minutes exercise every day Yeah And and just because you're gonna benefit from it regardless of whether you've got anxiety or not those things Are beneficial to human bodies. So why not give yourself every chance to Progress do it do the things that You should be doing anyway. Yeah That makes sense. It doesn't make perfect sense. And it's a really good point and it actually Fits with the topic we're talking about today being what happens when you're ill and it spikes your anxiety if you have health anxiety I actually had I had a question on facebook from from a woman two days ago Who who kind of talked about This to a certain extent where she's doing her exposure work and she's pushing But what happens when you're home alone with your thoughts and the thoughts are the problem and in the case And I think you know, we can agree that right now the thoughts are the problem If you're feeling ill you've got that thought pattern is happening and it's and it's causing you problems How do you deal with that and You know, do you just have to learn to be brave in the face of your thoughts? And it was a really solid question and I think the answer is no, you don't you can learn those skills So when I talk about walking around literally looking at my phone and a list of stupid things that that I liked And repeating over and over and over thought is just a thought I can replace it with another thought These are skills that we should be practicing every single day. Whether you feel badly or not Because when your nose gets runny and your ears get plugged and you start to have that thought pattern kick in You will have learned the skill of quieting your mind and dismissing those thoughts. Yeah But you can't wait until it happens. You have to build the skill Daily like like anything else like learning how to ice skate You can't right. You can't practice when you're ready to get in a hockey game You have to practice before you get in the hockey game. So Yeah, so I think I don't know so much of we focus on the physical and we really forget to focus on the the mental the cognitive You know like hey, I made it to Whatever the park. I'm not going to say supermarket because I'm getting killed for like picking up the supermarket all the time Hey, I made it to the park today great or I drove around the block today. That's awesome But did you also take time and do some relaxation? Did you practice meditation? Did you practice yourself thoughts or your your imagery or your guided, you know, whatever Somebody good tools that we could use that would help I've never really thought of it like that. I've always as I say gauged Progress right how far away can go? Yeah, and I'm like building up the courage every day and If so if an exposure goes badly and you lose a bit of confidence or you know Because it does it makes you feel so tired as well when you're constantly if you're doing it every day Yeah Then you know, maybe do step back take those steps a bit smaller But bring the other stuff into play as well. That's that's something that I've never really thought of so i'm definitely gonna relax So I think that's good. I think the takeaway from this discussion and unfortunately you having a cold and be having whatever I have is You know, it has to be a well-rounded approach. It's not just the exposure of getting out and driving or walking or whatever It's also doing those Working those cognitive tools that we have to work That's it. That's super important and they matter and I will tell you that they matter beyond just anxiety so for me I know that a big turning point was Once I even got past the point where I had no problem. I was getting in the car. I was driving around I felt like life. It was returning back to normal Yeah, if I had any sort of stress placed on me like in my business, bam, the anxiety would come out and that was purely You know cognitive like I wasn't handling the stress well at all And so the big turning point for me was as I started to practice those skills more on a daily basis I got to the point where something would happen something would break. There'd be an emergency of some kind and and I could just Like zen my way through it And no problem like see very clearly we need to do this this this and this you do this you do this you do this and Things would get solved and I wouldn't go into a panic over it And go no and I think in a way you may find if you have health anxiety that would translate to you too So if you get better at those skills the next time you wake up with a runny nose Might not have the same impact What's going to say it kind of relates to the exposure stuff We mentioned it last week where I had that list of five things and when I reached the fifth I was able to do so much more than just the fifth. Yes It's like this once you learn to manage the thoughts on one level you'll notice that you're managing them But many different it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter and I and I will say Anxiety aside the skill of quieting your mind on demand and like conjuring up instant calm Kind of turns you into a bit of a superhero. I'm not going to lie like yeah When all hell is breaking loose, you know, if you could just stay calm and focused And you see clearly and things seem to move slowly and it's easier to assess the situation Because you can quiet your mind and really focus on the important things and not let all the other noise get Out of control. It's a valuable skill. Everybody should learn it. Everybody anxiety or not So that's the eye and water to the weak meditation Yeah, I think learn to me and to bring it back to the health anxiety thing since it's the thoughts Those are rational thoughts. Oh my god. I have this. Oh my god. I have cancer You know learning to recognize that's not a thought that I want I'm going to either let it come and go dismiss it and just empty my mind and quiet it or I'm going to learn how to replace it with Something else. I want to remember that cool picnic that I went on or you know my eighth birthday party Whatever the hell it is for you. It doesn't matter. Yeah, so learning that stuff You know, you realize that you just triggered half our viewers by saying the C word The what there was a C word that I say a C word in there And cancer people just oh And it's I hate it. I hate even saying the word but then when you think about it, it's ridiculous It is ridiculous just because you talk about it or you worry that you've got it Right mean you can get it Yeah, so cognitively speaking. Do you really like don't even like to say the word? Oh, well, it's a terrible word anyway. Nobody wants to get that of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but But okay, that's that's so interesting very interesting I'll tell you a short story along those very short For me when I was really dealing with those obsessive thoughts It was when I was coming off my medications and my brain was just scrambled eggs And we'll talk about that one day, but I was obsessed with I was focused on death all the time Like oh my god one day. I'm not going to be here. Blah blah blah just these horrible thoughts Go through my head all the time And it got to the point where I wouldn't even want to say that word And my kids were small and they wouldn't say the word I I somehow had let that rub off on them The word death or dead was like forbidden for like six months around me And I remember them saying like well, you know, it's not alive They had to work around it So What you're saying is totally normal. It's not crazy at all But it's it's where I've had I've had that before like I'll be lying in bed When you have that thought the death thought yeah, and it's it's actually Like it puts you so close to a panic or for me like in a flash you can have that. Yes It's scary. I don't want to think about it. It's scary and that's a whole other topic and we People might get a little freaked out with listening to us even right now talking about it But do you think like the crux of most anxiety and panic? It is a fear of death Sure. Oh, I don't know. We're getting kind of Freudian here, but um Going deep again. We are going deep Uh I mean the fear we talk about danger what we feel like there's danger and what's the ultimate danger You know physical harm or or loss of life. So it's I guess it's possible Like I feel so badly right now that I'm afraid that I might be in so much danger that I It could be the end of me. I I it's possible. That could be It could be a thing. Yeah, because then I'll say like in the next breath. I'll say like If even if I was to die right this second now, I ain't I ain't gonna care am I? Right But that's how you that's how you know that you turn the corner around that. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I've I've always thought like that So for me the answer isn't It isn't really a fear of death because I sort of accept that when that happens This is a horrible topic. It is a horrible runoff in a minute Yeah, no, but I'm not I'm not really scared of that because I know that once it happens I ain't gonna know I think the fear for me is more like the Sitting in or the laying in the hospital bed in the probably I'll tell you what the thing is It's probably having to go to a freaking hospital. That's the thing that freaks me out. Hmm Okay, interesting Because you have to stay there and can't yeah, yeah Unless we they can operate on me and maybe in the garden That there may be there may be sanitary concerns there. I'm not sure but I'm willing to take the risk I'm willing to take the risk. I'll sign a waiver. Just cut me open here. That's so funny Yeah, that is a very tough topic to talk about I think especially for people in our situation We may have a bunch of people who are a little bit on edge just hearing us have this Little too many conversation. We probably should have the conversation one day because it is a thing it is a thing but So that's the deal both feeling Yeah, we started talking about hell things I know we wound up with death. Sorry folks. That's no we didn't plan out The only thing that you can be sure of yeah, that's what they see here in the u.s. Death and taxes, right? So an interesting tweets from our president So I do we want to talk about you want to take any questions getting good questions this week I've got some questions. Yeah, I've got some questions from the 12th episode on the 13th I haven't even posted the 12th episode. I will post it this morning. Oh the 13th. I mean one of the comments on the 13th One was please. Please do a video on health anxiety. So here we are. Here we are Is it they say it's Laura? She says it's especially difficult when there's a specific specific condition one fears and there's no definitive answer from the doctors So yeah, I guess I mean a lot of people that suffer with anxiety go to the doctors and if they've been numerous times You do often find people say that the doctors have just said That's anxiety Sure, and then people start to worry that you know, surely not everything is anxiety. They must have missed something Yeah, yeah, that's one of the big fears in sure But I mean if the doctors see that many patients and they've seen it all haven't they the gps So if they were they were genuinely concerned They'd follow it up. They're not just going to say it's just It's just in your head. Yeah. Yeah I think That's a tough one too because it's hard when you know, you have a medical professional that says you're actually fine But I but I don't believe you. Sorry doc. You don't believe you something must be wrong Um, I don't know how you do with that. That's a tough one I think you just got take that word for I guess. Yeah, and I think After a while, I think doesn't experience matter to after a while Like I've had this pain in my hip or whatever my knee for you know, two months and nothing has happened So all right, I just my knee is hurt. What can I do? I've been having dizzy spells and Freaking out for over 10 years. Right. If it was if it was something more sinister, then surely I'd be I'd know about it by now. That's what I think if it was anything serious But there are certain conditions that can actually cause Anxiety, but that's probably another topic. It is another topic, but but I think even so Experience does matter and the longer time should be our ally We I think we've touched on this before a couple of times like it like after you've experienced 10,000 panic attacks Yeah, theoretically you should not really have to be afraid of one anymore But and the same thing holds true if you're convinced that you have something wrong with you and it's been six months And you still have that pain in your back and the doctors keep telling you there's nothing wrong Well, you have no other change in condition. You're able to live your life. Everything is fine That odds are there's nothing really wrong with you sooner or later like common sense has to start to kick in I think I think I would agree another question. Sure This one's completely different, but it was uh breaking next 23 We've had questions from him before I recognize the name Yeah, how do we feel about cbd oil? Which is completely off topic, but it's a question. It is a question I don't know How do I feel about it? Okay I'll make it a brief answer. We that's a whole other topic we could do too Just that sort of herbal supplement. I think you should yeah, yeah Yeah, I think I I've been talking to my wife about buying some because I obviously vape I don't smoke anymore, but you can get cbd vape oil. Yeah so So cbd is I may trial it For the guests for the viewers I may trial it the the object of the game so cbd is the The Just without the thc. Correct. Correct. Okay, so Here's my overall thought on cbd or any of those sort of cbd on any of those things I I it's not something I go after myself, but You prefer the hard stuff. Yeah for the hard stuff. I think I think I tend to avoid trying to it trying to deal with anxiety by ingesting something You know, I don't I don't want to swallow something drink something sniff something rub something on my skin necessarily To address this because I don't I don't think I need that. Yeah. Yeah, I think perhaps Depending because the the question is just what do we think about cbd oil? It doesn't say In regards to curing anxiety, but you bang on if you if you're gonna use it to try and eliminate anxiety Then I think you're barking up the wrong tree Right if you want to maybe just take the edge off maybe a bit if you've had a stressful day Works on top of you a bit. Sure. You want to come home and drop a few drops on your tongue or a vapor bit of cbd Yeah, I don't think there's any harm in it, but it's not a tool But you shouldn't be using as a tool as long as you're not using it as As an escape like I I have because the way I would look at it with cbd oil or anything Whatever substance or herb or whatever you you want to try laugh at that Yeah, I think if you if you get to the point where you would be worried that you're going to run out of it Like oh i'm out like this is problematic if you get to the point where you are worried about not having it Then it's a crutch it's then you got to get past that so that's my view That's my that's the 10,000 foot view of cbd oil And it makes me crazy when I hear people talk about stuff like that and not only do they say it relaxes them But it stops their car from burning oil their electric bill is lower It cures every like this kids are getting better grades in school like please You know, it just loses credibility for me. So it's a little rough But anyway, I've seen so many videos that say cbd cured my anxiety And then a couple of weeks later they post another video saying I'm having a panic attack right now. Right. It's kind of rough. So that's my view on cbd oil. Don't let it be a crutch Uh, I have Yeah, we'll do one more. Let me just acknowledge because I know she's Jackie I said we would answer your question and we were going to do your question as this topic Uh, probably next week It was my fault because drew mentioned that he had a cold and then I said that's okay I think it was fine. The question was and and we're going to do a whole episode in this the question had to do with How do you use exposure to get better at things that you can't really practice like getting on a plane because You know, you can't really practice flying around the world on every day, right? So with Jackie, we will probably do that next week. Sorry about that. You'll have to wait another week But I just want to at least let her know stay tuned. Stay tuned. You got another one from your end I have yeah, I mean this one's kind of similar to what you've just said And it's how do I build trust that it's only anxiety? And somebody actually commented on twitter saying that that was a good comment on youtube How do you convince yourself that it's just anxiety and not something more? So that kind of ties into what you've just said because You would still need to convince yourself that it's only anxiety that's stopping you from flying around the world Oh Yeah, to a certain extent. I think how do you convince yourself that it's not anxiety because At some point I think we've just said that yeah, it's experience. Right. It's experience I I understand that at first, you know, the first week it happens It's perfectly understandable to not understand that it's just anxiety You may think that you're dying and all those things I I get that but You know after you've dealt with it for a few months or six months or a year or years how you know at some point Like well, I feel like this all the time and I'm still standing. I'm fine. I'm perfectly healthy There's nothing physically wrong with me. Then why would I think it's anything more than anxiety sooner or later? Like actual real world experience has to sort of matter But the crazy thing is and like we're sitting here discussing this and it's a real moment I know that it's just anxiety yet. I'm still Here freaking out daily sometimes So even like with all that experience that I've got many many years Yeah, like a third of my life has passed and I've had this And it's never really. I mean it did get better a bit But now I'm like when it's when it's bad. It's as bad as it ever freaking was Hmm, but I think there's a difference. So the difference is Feeling anxiety and and thinking that you're in more danger than you are because you think there's something really wrong physically This is a heart attack. This is a stroke. This is You know some horrible disease That's one issue and that's when I say like at some point that fear Experience has to tell you it's not a heart attack. I've had this 10,000 times before But you could still react negatively to the anxiety itself Even though, you know, it's not a heart attack or I know I'm not having a heart attack But I still would rather not have a panic attack, you know, I would choose to have one I think that's the thing with me. Yeah, I think rather than me go off down that path I don't do that so often anymore, but I still react to the anxiety and the way that I feel Right, but it's not so much a fear of this is something more. It's just that it's an uncomfortable Whether it's a fear or not. I don't know whether I'm scared of the way I feel anymore Which probably sounds really weird. No, I just I just don't like it anymore. Right. I get it. It's uncomfortable Who wants to be there that makes perfect sense and and it is okay So it is fear you are feeling fear, but you're just not afraid of the fear anymore But it's still fear nonetheless and it's fun So I think the difference is, you know, how can you convince yourself? It's just anxiety. Well, that's experience but And at some point I think we all move we we move on We don't think it's a heart attack anymore. For instance, but we're but we still do everything we can to avoid the anxiety Not because we think we're avoiding a heart attack. We just don't want to feel that way. So two different animals Did we answer that question? Probably That's all right, um, what else did I get this week? I didn't really get much on facebook Let's look on youtube real quick. Let me switch. I asked I asked on twitter if there was anything anybody wanted to know about And 90% of the answers were yes, maybe the physical symptoms of anxiety So we're we're back there. We're always the will back to Yeah, we're back to everybody wants it. Does it does anyone else get does anyone else? That's you know But the thing with me like I get all these I get Every bloody symptom going but it doesn't really help me knowing that someone else does because it doesn't stop me feeling it it just no, I just I don't know I'm sick of it I'm annoyed I think I've reached that point drew and I probably reached it like many years ago and that maybe motivated me Right, but I feel like I'm at the point like I'm I'm really sick of feeling like this that you're You're getting angry about it now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm starting to get a bit cheesed off and I want to Open a few more doors. Yeah, man cheesed off cheese. I'm gonna start using that. I'm bringing it over. I'm bringing it over the ocean I like that That's not a bad thing. That's not. Yeah. No, I think I'm gonna try and use it to my advantage. Definitely. Yeah Yeah, that's not a bad thing at all. I'm having a hard time loading youtube for whatever reason so Next week I'll look at my youtube comments and see Um, yeah, so I I don't know. I got nothing else yet. Any else Somebody asked how about when people get people get annoyed about the symptoms that you're showing They get annoyed meaning yeah But it was the the chap that burps and sniffs or clears his throat all the time It's breaking it So people around him get annoyed when he does it people wait on occasion my missus has got annoyed when I display anxiety I don't know whether I'm Like standing in a queue maybe and I'm doing this yep like moving side to side or I'm Doing weird things my missus gets annoyed sometimes. Does she call you out on it? Like hey, you know you're doing that now Uh, usually after That's interesting, but it's too late. I've already done it. You know what it's watching stuff The way Excuse me the way I would respond to that like people get annoyed At that what you're displaying because of anxiety That's not a that's not a bad thing That's not a bad thing and and I always look at it this way people who When they don't the whole nobody they don't understand thing. Oh, they just don't they don't understand But you know what I'm happy that they don't understand And when somebody gets annoyed at you for clearing your throat or sniffling or whatever it is that you are doing I just read it I just read a comment that I didn't know was waiting for me. I'll tell you I'll tell you off the air Yeah, well, I'm gonna publish this comment. Um Anyway Okay So, uh, what I was gonna say was what video is it? It's I don't know. Which were probably the last one episode 11. Um, yeah episode 11. So the On my channel, so People get annoyed when you're displaying whatever your swing side to side or you're tugging on your ear or your Scratch, you know, whatever it is you're doing. I used to tug on my ear all the time Yeah, and when people are annoyed by that use it as a positive And you know why they're annoyed because they don't understand why you're doing it They don't understand why you're doing it because they know that you are in no danger They know that So so instead of being angry or like feeling persecuted or saying nobody understands So they need to understand why I'm doing that. Well, no, they don't they don't need to understand it When your kid doesn't want to go to bed because he says there's a monster in his closet Do you have to understand that there's a monster in his closet? You do not because there is no monster in his closet So, you know in a way let those people be models for us They're annoyed at at your little ticks or whatever because they don't understand why you're doing them So let them model normal behavior. That's my response to that Use it as a positive. Yeah doing those things is actually not saving you from anything happening anyway Yeah, that's true Tugging on your ear didn't no it didn't save me from a damn thing. All it did was make this ear probably longer than the other one And me stumping there doing this in a shot. It's not helping If well, if someone was trying to punch you it might Be like an MMA fight Very helpful. Um So that's that's my response to that one. I don't know This comment that i'm going to publish now actually somebody it was suggested that we do a video That talks about if like what should your wife do when you're having a panic attack? What should your boyfriend do? What should your girlfriend and all that stuff? We should probably do one of those two That's that's probably probably helpful. Yeah. Yeah, so Anywho, so that's it. I'm out I'm out of stuff I'm gonna start coughing any moment. So How long we've been going for we've been going for Let's see here. It's a run the clock. Um, 42 minutes That's I don't know how we we yeah, it's a little bit of a marathon. So Prepare for the mid-roll adverse Nice mid-roll adverse All right, folks, I guess we're gonna hit the road on this one I guess next week we'll do that expose. We'll get back onto the exposure topic because it's a good one Yeah, yeah, I like that. We we'll go with the theme and then if anybody's got comments or questions something that I wanted to Touch on which we can say for next week is like irrational silly fears Like example, I want people to share them in the comments But one for me is like anything with a nut in if you read something that's got may contain nuts I have this weird fear that I've developed a nut allergy in the time that I've opened the wrapper and Eating the chocolate bar So that's like my irrational fear And I wondered if if people wanted to share theirs and we can just look at maybe why or Why does it happen? We can share them. Yeah. Yeah, because it's weird. I've been eating nuts since I don't know a long time Yeah, sure But every time I eat one, it's like This can be the one and it's time. Yeah, that's it. This could be the one. It's gonna close I do the same thing with pineapple juice Pineapple juice really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why pineapple juice just pineapple juice like somehow you've developed It's just the weight that the feeling that it has in your throat when you've drunk it's weird I don't know. I had a panic attack after drinking a glass of pineapple juice probably about eight years ago You're gonna have to like watch it with the pineapple thing I can you see that? Oh, that's that's an omen. Get off. There's a pineapple on my forearm Wait put it in the middle of the screen For DC It's hard to do I'm trying to like, it's really awkward Anyway, all right, so we'll touch on that for sure. Those are good because I had my share of silly ones too over the years I'll share All right guys, I'll bring the pineapples and the peanuts. Very good. Thanks for tuning in as always comments questions Right find me at that anxiety guy.com or my youtube channel billy. Where are you? Anxietyunit.com there you go So comment wherever you want twitter youtube facebook wherever We'll reread them. We answered that. 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