 Hi, my name is Leon Rowe, currency trader and trading coach at trading180.com. And in this video, I've got another student, Jarb Red, who has been with me again for a little bit. And I wanted to again, get invite him on a video and get his perspective and experience, I guess, get his, from his own words as to how he's found trading180, the mentoring that I provided, and how his trading has really kind of transformed and changed for the better. So yes, Jarb Red, how are you doing? You okay? Hey, blessings, brother. I give thanks for being on your podcast and I give thanks for having this time to share with you. I'm doing well, man. I'm looking forward to chopping it up and hopefully sharing some of the benefits that I get from you so that others might find those benefits too. Ah, brilliant. Thank you very much. So give us just a little bit maybe about your background and how you kind of got into trading forex. Yeah, so I'm a priest. I'm an Episcopal. I was ordained the Episcopal church. I don't go by demon nations, but I'm a priest who's kind of been exiled from the church, you know, kind of like those following American football you familiar with Colin Kaepernick and how he took a knee and people got upset and he's no longer played football. In similar vein, you know, I started talking about where things were going with white supremacy and everything and the church was like, yeah, you gotta go. And so I kind of stumbled into trading from there. Another pastor friend that I knew that I had here in Central Florida where I live, introduced me to forex through eye markets. I don't know if anybody's familiar with eye markets. I don't even know if it's still around, but it was one of those pyramid scheme things, multi-level marketing things. But it introduced me to forex. But I knew quickly, because I'm one of those intellectual types I had to read and figure things out. So I learned quickly that they weren't really trading. They were selling you the dream of trading. I gave thanks for the opportunity because I wasn't aware of the currency market. So I gave thanks for the opportunity to become aware of the currency market. It really hit to me because again, I deal with geopolitics all the time. And so the idea that my studies of geopolitics might actually fund my lifestyle. I'm like, cool, that's two birds with one stone. So I dove even deeper into it. And again, being that intellectual type, I started off by reading all of those books, like Marcel Link's High Probability Trading. I read some Van Tharp early on. So like heavy stuff early on. So I was never in the just trading to trade thing. The just pure technicals, just this going up to day, let me trade it. This is going down to day, let me trade it. I've always wanted to understand things on a deeper level. That's how I got into Ichimoku actually because Ichimoku kind of slows things down. It makes you look at a longer horizon. And so stumbling across your videos, again, I don't know if we said this in the recorded part or not, but stumbling across your video, I've seen a lot of people and some great guys that I'm still do stuff with, but just I learned completely different skills with. But listening to your videos, I was like, man, this is how I wanna look at things. I wanna be able to understand the deeper levels, the deeper realities of things because it fits with my vocation, my work. And so it's like a symbiotic whole. It kind of marries together very well for me, understanding what's going on in geopolitics and the economies or knowing that economies drive geopolitics and just understanding those deep relationships helped me in my work with my clients. And so I needed to get to a point where I was slowing things down and moving beyond just technical charts. And it was trading 180, it was your videos that helped me to do that. And so I stumbled across your videos and I was like, yeah, this is how I wanna look at things. I need to be in a group like this because I need to be around other people who are thinking this way. We may not agree. I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me. I didn't come into it expecting agreement. What I expected was a space where people are paying attention to the fundamentals. And they're not just going to be a sounding board in the terms of echo chamber would be the better word. They're not just going to be, teach me your style, give me your signals. Let me go trade what you trade. I'm gonna find a room of thinkers where I can hold to my crazy ideas and have them maybe probe, maybe refined, maybe shaped, maybe shot down by a group of people that I trust at least know fundamentally what's going on. And so that's how I got into trading and got full circle to be in with you. That's very interesting, a lot to unpack there, a lot to unpack in so many different directions we could go in, but it's funny you say, what was it, the multi-level marketing thing because I was speaking to a trader the other day who's recently, I would say recently just joined, maybe joined a few months, maybe in the last intake and he said pretty much the same thing. He kind of got into trading but he ended up being in some sort of multi-level marketing thing where it's about kind of selling courses rather than actual trading, do you know what I mean? And then exactly similar to you, it's like then he kind of realized, oh, in fact, you know what? There is a trading thing behind this, right? You know what I mean? There is a way to make money actually trading. So, and what's quite interesting is the fact that you were quite interested in geopolitics anyway and geopolitics has a direct connection really with fundamental analysis, right? So you kind of came into it maybe different because a lot of traders don't always come into it knowing the fundamental analysis, they get into it with the technicals straight away, just purely technicals, but you came into it from a different perspective and not realizing, I guess, that your geopolitical, I guess, interest actually could make you money. Yeah, you know, that's exactly, and but I quickly found that out, right? Like, when I started understanding, you know, what exactly are currency pairs and what's happening? I'm like, oh, this is simply geopolitics. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yep. And I'm like, oh, and I can get paid for understanding geopolitics? Yeah. Sign me up. Yeah, that's it, that's it, right? And I was never interested in kind of fundamentals. I got into it like everyone else as far as, you know, the technical side of things. And it was, you know, just, I guess maybe a bit of sidetrack. I got into fundamentals when my mentor, Mark Chapman, told me about the euro-dollar. So we got into the euro-dollar, he got into the euro-dollar short around the time when quantitative easing was first being introduced around that 2013, 2014. And then when Greg's it, when Greek was gonna exit from the European Union, right? And you see that, the politics, you see the geopolitics and you see monetary policy play out in the currency markets. He was telling me to get short. Well, he didn't tell me outright, but because he couldn't, he's not financial advisor, but he was hinting. And for, I'm telling you, jar bread, I was so driven on the technicals, I kept thinking that I could still go long at levels of support, right? And the technicals that he was teaching where it would, levels are just being blown through, right? If you look at a euro-dollar chart, you know, go back to that time, you actually impact, you'll see. In fact, this is gonna be an interesting one, right? You'll see back in like 2014, 2015, we'll go back, right? We'll go back and just delete this, 2014, 2015, you'll see this move right here. Here it was. There it is. There it is, right? Oh, way down, exactly. This was 2015, right? And I kept trying to take those gadgets and kept trying to take them here and not realizing the fundamentals of what- We're driving things. Exactly, and like you said, the geopolitics was driving this massive move, right? Right. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. So a question for you, right? So why weren't you deterred by the failure statistics? So I don't know if you would have heard that, you know, there's like a 1990 rule, right? When 90% of traders lose 90% of their account in 90 days. Had you heard of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear that statistic all the time. It's ever-present. Right, so what kept you going? Because a lot of traders listening will call trading a scam and that it can't be, you know, you can't make money from it, et cetera. And, you know, again, 90% of traders do actually end up giving up. So what is it that kept you going, you know, after maybe certain setbacks? Sean, you know, I appreciate that. I appreciate having to think about that in this context talking to you. I was, because I have to say, because I was thinking about all the pad answers that I could give, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I just was determined or, you know, I had no other choice or, you know, I told you I was blacklisted and so I couldn't make any end, you know, I could tell you all of those things. But if I'm real about it, and this is one of the things, we talked about it in one of the calls. This is one of the opportunities, I think, that a lot of us miss with trading is that, I mean, trading is my psychologist, you know, and you learn a lot about yourself. And I appreciate learning about myself. I'm learning to appreciate learning about myself. And in this quest to learn about myself, journaling my trades and, you know, not just journaling my trade in terms of the technicals, but journaling, not just the fundamentals, but journaling me in the trade, me taking the trade. What was I thinking? Why was I thinking that? What was I doing? Why was I doing that? You know, what was going on when I was doing that? You know, what happens when I trade if I've been in a bad headspace? What happens when I trade, when I'm not in a bad headspace? What's the difference, you know? What do I do differently? What routines? What recipes do I need? You know, I'm trying to... I guess because I live in exile and I have to fend for self in a different kind of way, I understand that if it's all on me, I better be the best that I can be. And trading helps me get my mind right. So I guess the only reason I didn't quit, because I had more than enough reasons to quit. Oh, of course. Oh, we needed one. You know, we can source ourselves out of just one. You know what I mean? I guess the only reason I didn't quit is because I haven't quit working on myself. And so trading is always there to help me see who am I, especially when risk is on the line. Very interesting. That's a very, very in-depth and interesting answer. And I concur, right? You find out so much about yourself when it comes to trading. You don't realize it at first, right? But then it forces you to think how to think. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. You become more conscious, more conscious, more aware of how, you know, like why do I revenge trade? Why do I, why do I homo? You know, why do I keep making the same mistake? Even though I said to myself, I'm never gonna do this again. Do you know what I mean? Why haven't I got the discipline? I thought I was a disciplined person, yet I keep making these same mistakes over and over. It forces you to examine yourself. It really does, it really does. One of them young rappers over here, I don't know how young he is anymore. As young Jeze said, women lie, men lie, numbers don't lie. Numbers don't, exactly. Numbers don't. Numbers don't lie. And I could tell you anything I wanna tell you about who I am, you don't know me. Man, that trading account don't lie. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It doesn't lie, the numbers won't lie, right? And it's interesting we talk about, you know, psychology. So from a psychological perspective and psychology of trading, you know, maybe go over maybe a concept or two of how maybe, you know, that's been introduced to you within Trading 180 that you found, you know, you thought yourself has been absolutely enlightening, mind-blowing maybe. Well, in terms of the group and psychology, I'd say the most compelling stuff has happened spur of the moment. Okay. I can't even, and that's one of those things that you gotta be in the group to do it, right? Because it, and I know there's, you know, you have the psychological channel and things of that nature, but for me, the most compelling piece are the conversations that we stumble into on the group calls where someone is bringing forward something in real time and we're talking it through. And then, you know, you may bring out, you know, from there, there's the discussion group chain, right? Cause then you start bringing out quotes or posts from a book that you've been reading and you know, I'll do the same and we'll start having a further conversation on something that just started as someone sharing in the group a struggle that was identified as a psychological struggle. And then just having that group where there are like-minded people that are gonna share what they know from their perspective on that psychological struggle. So that's why I say it's kind of the stuff that's happened spur of the moment, more than any of the scripted opportunities that I know do exist. So maybe a bit more specific, was, is there something, what have you found out about yourself at Trading 180 when being Trading 180 psychologically that you didn't really know before? Maybe or you weren't necessarily aware or maybe you were aware, I don't know what the end is gonna be looking for, right? Because I realized even towards the end of this year and I'm going on, I think I'm going on two years with you now. And it was towards the end of this year where I realized how susceptible I still am to the crowd. And it's kind of like you said earlier, I'm usually on an island with my trade ideas. Even among y'all, even among y'all, I'll send out a trading idea and it'll be crickets. Like everybody will be like, yeah. I'm like, you sure, you sure? Okay. But we'll get into that a bit later and go on. But I realized towards the end of this year that I found myself taking trades that I did not agree with because the trades that I was looking at weren't ready yet. They're just coming through. And like you said, we'll talk about that later. And I found myself still with that fear of missing out that had me taking trades that were not the trades that I take. And so realizing that I'm still susceptible to the crowd. Very interesting. Very interesting. And that's a growing edge for me. You know what I mean? It's like, I appreciate you all, you know what I mean? But by now I need to know that I should expect to be nine times out of 10 on the other side. And I should be okay with that. And I forget her name, but she wrote non-consensus trade and non-consensus investing. Just came out a little while ago, brilliant book. But she talks about being comfortable, being the odd man out, being the only one on that island. And I realized that I still have that little inkling of wanting to be with some sort of crowd. And how that- We all do, we all do. And how that, but how that then influences the trading. And then compels you to take risks that are not your risks to take. They may be risks for somebody else to take. And I can celebrate them. Some of the other guys in the group, y'all have trades that, and I'm like, no, I'm not going that way, but hey, go at it. You remember we had the group and I was like, one guy was a buyer and I was a seller. And I was like, I'll let you know when I'm ready to sell so you know where to get out. I remember that was the pound Aussie, wasn't it? I remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah, very interesting. But I realized that I'm still not, I still struggle with that comfort in standing alone. Okay. Yeah. Okay, that's quite interesting because there's so many things I want to go off on and talk to you about, but we've only got a limited amount of time, but it's interesting you say that. And the reason why is because I always, in the way that I was taught, I guess, was the saying, I guess I'll repeat this over and over again in the podcast is catch a man, sorry, yeah, catch a man of fish or woman of fish or person of fish and they eat for a day. If you teach a person to fish, they eat for a lifetime, right? Now, the thing with the Trading 180 group ultimately is we're not trying to create copycats, we're not trying to create that, yeah? We try to create independent traders so that if I was to, you know, some, if I said I'm not doing Trading 180 no more or something was to happen to me or whatever it is and you've been with me for, you know, a year or two, yeah? Right. But what did you learn? Were you being spoon fed? Do you know? You can still trade, you'll be sad, I'll be sad that you ain't doing it no more and I'll be like, yo, how can we continue talking but I can still trade. Exactly, exactly and trade profitably, right? You can generate your own trade ideas, you know what's going on in the market. Know how to track the fundamentals, understand how to identify it. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, definitely and that's the constant thing that you hammer on, you know? And it's interesting as, you know, being in this group for a while now and seeing when the new intakes come in and you have to go back to that hammer mode, you know? Yes. I didn't even say that. I realize you're embering your flow, I realize you're embering your flow, you know? Because the intakes are, the intakes are such, and I understand why the intakes have to be strategic, you know, have to be time. You know, it's not just a rolling basis because... Of course, of course. You know, you got to get people up to speed and it's funny when you get people up to speed and you shift to a different mode, you know? It's like, I've realized there's about three modes. Yeah, three modes, yeah, I think it's interesting. Tell me about these modes, I want to hear them, let's go. You know, there's like, you're shifting back into hammer mode because there's been a new group coming in and that hammer mode, it's a loving hammer, you know, there's all sorts of facets of love and this is, again, this is another reason that I 100% endorse the group because you need these things if you're going to be profitable. Yes, yes. You just need to understand these things. And that's hammer mode, you know? Hammer mode is, I don't really want to hear it until you've gone through the course. Yes, yes. Until you've gone through the course and have understood what we mean when we talk about all of these fundamental numbers, that's just chill, just chill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you've seen it, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, because we all come in, especially when folks come from that technical world, you want to make, they tell you the 24 hour market. Yeah. You know, I want to make money right now. Yeah, yeah. You know, and even for the technical trader, if you're wise, you learn that it ain't really true. You know, even for the technicals, you learn that it's not a 24 hour market. Yes, it's open 24 hours and they will take your money 24 hours a day. Excellent, excellent point. It ain't moving 24 hours a day, you know? Key level. But for sure, when fundamentals come to play, you understand, it ain't moving. Mm-hmm. And so why am I going to put my capital at risk when it ain't moving? Exactly. That is a brilliant, brilliant thing, right? It's because generally traders will come in and just take any level of support and resistance behind demand. And so hammer mode, and hammer mode, this is what I see, hammer mode, you're forcing the new intake to understand. Mm-hmm. Weight. Yeah. Not even weight because you don't know enough yet. No, weight because weight. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's no rush. There's no rush. It's not time yet. Yeah. It's not time yet. You have time to learn the course. Mm-hmm. You know? And then there's that mode after folks get through, you know, their objections to simply observing the numbers. Mm-hmm. Now as the teacher. Yeah. You know, because now you start to realize the conversation in the group starts to shift and now people are asking questions about these numbers. Yes. And they're not the questions that really wanna force the numbers to mean something else. You can see that they're now the questions of inquiry. Mm-hmm. Where they're trying to understand how to make use of these numbers. Mm-hmm. And so now you're a teacher. Yeah. And then that third stage is where we're all engaged together. Mm-hmm. You know, and now I've noticed you start taking opportunity to throw out more ideas that people may not agree with. Yeah. Yeah. Because now you're not worried about throwing out ideas that people may not agree with. Exactly. Absolutely. And whether you agree or not, again, going back to, you know, I guess maybe back to, but maybe moving on with you and you're quite, and I was saying this again before we started recording is that you're quite unique in a sense that you've taken the fundamental, I guess the concept geopolitics and you've really kind of ran with it to the point where, and I really do appreciate this, where, I mean, we've bumped heads with certain things, as you know. We've bumped heads, but it's been a good experience, a great experience and for the community because it just demonstrates that we can all make money in the market regardless of, you know, everyone following each other, right? So, you know, you get certain groups where it's like a school of fish, yeah? Everyone moves in the same direction. But, you know what I mean? It's a case of, you know, trading is more dynamic than that, right? Yeah. And if you can understand that, you can stand on your own to, as an individual and make those trading decisions from top to bottom, from the fundamentals to the technicals, you know, I'm not always taking the same trade as you, you're not always taking the same trade as me, but we get to the same destination on our trading accounts, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bottom line on top. Yeah, but you followed your process. I followed a process, yeah? Right. The process is pretty much the same, yeah? It's pretty much the same, although we might be looking at different pairs and anyone who's listening to this, if you understand the fundamentals, if you come into the group, you'll understand, look, this is not a cookie cutter. This is not just, I'm gonna give you this and I'm gonna give you that idea. I'm gonna tell you where to place your trade and your stop loss and, you know, you're gonna take profit. Yes, I will guide you. There are options, but I'm trying to create independently profitable traders and, you know, Jarbread is a shining example of somebody who has taken that concept and literally, you know, ran with it. You know, I'm literally ran with it. I'm gonna thank you, brother. I appreciate that. You know, and I do appreciate that. So in fact, this will be a great segue to move on to, I guess, showing us one of your latest or the last trade idea that you gave to the group because it's funny because I went back to the discord and I was like, I'm sure you said that you were the first person to mention this trade and I know which trade it's gonna be. Yeah. But I'm sure that you were the person to mention this trade idea. And again, this is an example of I didn't personally take this trade, but the process of this trade was a fundamental divergent trade. That's basically what we're doing, right? Right. So talk us through... First of all, what was trade? Yeah, Aussie CAD. That was Aussie CAD selling the Aussie CAD. Right, Aussie CAD this year, right, at the beginning of this year. So let's go to the Aussie CAD. And so, yeah, talk us through maybe, you know, just the fundamentals from top to bottom so why this currency pair, fund... Well, from a broad strokes perspective, I was looking at this pair. You know, we talk about commodity pairs a lot. This is one of the areas where we kind of bump heads because you don't like buying commodity pairs. Commodities against commodities. Yeah, that's exactly what I did. But I see it as more, and I'm understanding more how to explain it to you, right, and maybe there's a good opportunity. I see it more as my performance play in my portfolio. OK. You know, which one of the commodities... So I've noticed we're in a stage post-corona, or in corona, post-corona, that the Western economies are not shutting down. And so, which means they're not stopping looking for yield. And even in times when times get rough, they're not stopping looking for yield. They're just looking for better strategic placement of that yield. For me, what that means is, which one of these commodity currencies am I going to place my bets on? I'm going to get yield somewhere. Where is best suited to get this yield? For a time, it was New Zealand. For a time, it was New Zealand in 2021. For a time, it was New Zealand because their economy was clicking on all cylinders. All of their numbers were great. Their unemployment, it came down to pre-pandemic levels. Early 2021, their central bank raised interest rates, and it was projected to continue hiking. I mean, all cylinders were go, and they were economy that was doing this all when everyone else was stalled. That shifted, once they shifted from COVID-Zero to living with the virus. That shifted. It was the same shift that we see already with the Aussie, which is why I'm bearish Aussie. Aussie also shifted away from COVID-Zero as well as geopolitics now. They've chosen a Brexit-like move in cutting themselves off from 40% of their trade in their trading spat with China because they've been siding with the US. And so Australia has made a decision to choose their military political partner over their economic partner. And so it's gonna take some time to see how that works out for them. This is also coinciding with their fundamental numbers being sluggish. They are having a rough time switching from COVID-Zero to living with the virus. They're in and out of lockdown still. Their hospitalizations are on the rise. All kinds of stuff is going crazy over there. And so they're gonna have a hard time for quite some time. The Reserve Bank of Australia is saying that they're still remaining dovish. They're in the Europeans are the most dovish central banks out there now. So dovish, when you say dovish, just for anyone still listening. Oh, sorry, sorry. Yeah. Just maybe break that down a little bit. They are remaining loose in their monetary policy. They are keeping their bond buying going. They are not raising their interest rates. Yeah. So they're looking to basically not increase the value or appreciate their currency at the moment. Correct. Yeah, that would be the best way. Yeah, they're not looking to do anything monetary policy wise to appreciate their currency, to make their currency a bit stronger. That's basically what that is. Yeah. And in the meantime, so you have New Zealand coming back down because it's just shifted off of COVID zero. You have Australia that is good day almighty. So where am I going to get yield if I'm a commodity currency person? Right. The Canadian dollar. Exactly. So the Australian dollar is not doing great. The Canadian dollar on the other hand. It's poised to start rising, especially with oil prices being at their lows and coming off their lows with economies not shutting down and will meeting and will be needing that to resume supply chains and all that kind of stuff. The Canadian dollars should be poised to see a boom. In addition to that, the Bank of Canada has been showing its hawkish muscles meaning that it's making people think that they will raise interest rates and might even raise them sooner than people were anticipating. Things are looking on the up, on the fiscal side, on the governmental side, the Justin Trudeau's party has a solid majority in the federal government, which means that they are raising taxes, which this is another area where we butt heads. It's on MMT. You're not really into it, but I'm not into it either. I just understand what it is. For me, it's not about being into it or out of it. You know what I mean? It's just the reality of what it is, which says that in order for monetary policy to take a backseat, fiscal policy needs to take over. The only way fiscal policy can take over is if you have a majority in the parliament, in the governmental structure. Otherwise, there will be too much arguing, and that's what you're seeing in America right now with this governmental imbalance, which will only get worse. You're seeing that the Biden agenda is not getting passed so on and so forth. And so the central bank is on edge, may have to stay off of some of its hawkishness, but be that as it may, the Canadian dollar is poised to start throttling. So for me, I'm looking for a good level to get short on the Aussie cad, because it's also a trade that I, because I understand that you're not looking at it. I also understand that a lot of people aren't looking at it, and there's something for me about fishing where I know there's fish, but not a lot of people go. Right. So I'm looking for a level to go short off of, and I'm noticing that weekly, on the weekly is a trend line down too. It's a nice channel on the weekly. And we're at a great point for the continuation of that end wave. And that was back on, actually I got it on the 30th, which is another thing, you know what I mean? Y'all in a group are like, I'm not trading at the end of the year. I'm like, I'm looking for a discount. I'm looking for a Christmas special. Listen, I wanted that discount. I missed some profitable trades, not trading over Christmas, man. I really did. And it's a really nice 200 pit, 300 pit move. Yeah, so I got into that on the 30th. I got into that on the 30th. Brilliant. Brilliant, right there. 30th. I was hoping it was going to get higher, because in the weekly, I was hoping it might have came back to fair value on the weekly, but things were just too weak for the Australian dollar. Right. So now it's just a matter of see, how does it continue in that channel? Does it, what happens at that recent low? Right. By the way, I have to just point this out to the watches. Generally, you know, from a fundamental perspective, what we're looking to do is pick the direction of the trade. Right. How you get into it technically is ultimately up to the trader. Right. I personally don't, you know, teach or subscribe to, you know, things like channels. I'm, you know, guys follow the channel. I'm, you know, supply and demand strategies, capture pain relief, stop hunt strategies. But one of the things that fundamentals allows you to do is really kind of trade any strategy. Yeah. Because as long as you have the levels in the direction, yeah, that you want to trade in, then it's just a case of looking for trades in that direction. Now, let me be clear. The entry was off of a three hour supply zone. Okay. Intra day supply, supply zone. The reality of the channel was just confluence. Right. Okay. You know, to be honest, the reality is because I don't trade channels either. I don't trade trend line bounces. I trade supply zones and I use Ichimoku as well. Right. Yeah. But you got, I got in on a three hour on an intraday on a three hour on a, on a supply zone. Brilliant. So that was somewhere around this 0.93 to maybe 0.9 to 80 level somewhere around there. Yeah. Yeah. I got in at nine to eight one four to be exact. I'm two eight one four. What a trade. Look at that. So that would have been. Short position nine to eight one. Yeah. Somewhere like that. And stop loss somewhere. Stop loss was nine to eight eight four. Nine to eight in tight one. Yeah. You know me. I trade tight. Because I told you the three hour zone, but I refined down to the five minute. Right. That was like an eight pip stock. Yeah. Yeah. Well done, man. By the way, I don't, I don't personally, again, this is, this is the beauty. But this is, this is, you know, but this is, this is, this is one of the beauties of a guest trading in a sense that we want to stick as closely to the process as possible. This is what I teach 100%. Right. I could, I say to everybody stick this closely to the process as possible. Yeah. But ultimately. Yeah. Yeah. If you can use the concepts that I teach, but adapt it in a way where you're profitable. At the end of the day, it's all about profit. You know what I mean? It is about profit. But if you're not profitable. Yeah. And you're struggling. I would say stick to the process. Do you know what I mean? But, you know, Jabred has obviously, you know, found his niche in the way that he trades technically. Yeah. Yeah. Which benefits him, which is, then this is fantastic. I'm so glad. And are you still in the street by the way? I am. I actually added in. At, um, I added in at. 92249. 922. Right. So to pull back on that daily up in there. 92249 to somewhere around here. Oh, okay. Back in this, I think didn't, um, Ah, who was it again? It was, it was, I think Lawrence got in. I think Dr. Ninja. I think it was. Yeah. As well. Yeah. Got in. Got in that one as well. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Brilliant. And then you ended up, um, I'm still holding both. So you're still holding both. Yeah. Brilliant. I want to see what's happening down at that. Recent low. Brilliant. So remember, and this is where the fundamentals comes into play, right? So the banks are now calling for that level to break. Right. Yes. Excellent. And this is where I guess, um, one of the questions I guess I had for you was that, um, a lot of traders who don't trade fundamentals. Um, they, they, they tend to think, or there's this general consensus that the, the banks are misleading traders and they're trying to, you know, um, bamboozle traders into taking the other side and the wrong side of the trade, right? There's a conspiracy. Right. Of some sort. Right. Don't listen to the news. The news is trying to mislead you. Don't listen to the media. Right. And there is some truth. There is some truth to that. Yeah. Yeah. But in the way that we understand fundamentals and the way that we follow the banks. Yeah. Right. In our group. It's the total opposite. Right. We use it as confluence. Right. And you know, I would say this, there's some truth to the media piece. I don't know if there's any truth to the bank piece. I don't think the banks are misleading anyone when it comes to those things. I think. I think we just have it. The majority of us just have it so set in our minds. That they're screwing with us. That and that. Um, collides with the other psychological realities of trading. That make us take levels that end up being capture pain relief. That make us take levels that end up being stop hunted. Like if you understand the psychology of what's happening, you understand exactly why it was a quote unquote stop hunt. Right. Was that bank manipulation? Hmm. Or was that really that people were late to the trend and buying at the top? Hmm. Like which came first? The chicken or the egg? I don't really know. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so we can get caught up in there manipulating or we can, you know, just understand the reality and wait. This is good. You know, I don't know if this part was recorded or not, but that goes back to the hammer mode. Right. Like, you gotta learn to wait, like, wait, wait, there's stuff going on. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And I mean, I just want to make this clear as well. I'm not saying that, you know, banks don't, um, you know, you know, aren't misleading in some way shape or form. So for example, not to go off tangent too much, but for example, JP Morgan last year were found to manipulate, you know, the silver market, for example, but fine. Yeah. Yeah. And we also know, like Michael Hudson talks about in a couple of videos about how they've gotten 10 trillion dollars. The US banks have gotten 10 trillion dollars last year. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So there's a lot going on. There is, but, but, but, but bringing it back, I guess, to what, how we use that bank information within the group. Yeah. It aids us, right? When we see bank forecasts, you know, more often than not, they're not trying to mislead their capital investors. Exactly. They're not trying to mislead them, right? If anything, they're trying, they, they got the track records. And when they put out. I guess that's the difference. I go, I just say that because that's the difference. You know what I mean? Yeah. What you may hear on the news for the consumer. Yeah. That's misleading. Yeah. You know, but what's, what's being sent to the people who are investing real money with these banks, they're not trying to mislead those people. Exactly. Because if they mislead those people, they ain't going to get that money again. Exactly. And we just fried those, that coattails, their coattails, right? Right. That's just, it's not like, you know, we just have to look at their forecasts, we look at their analysis and then we say, this is where they're going. And more often than not, they will, it will go in that direction. You got to wait. You got to be patient. You've got to wait and you've got to be patient. And that's, that to me is the benefit of the group, right? And the camaraderie that's developed between those who, who, who become and remain active. You know, because people come and go. You know, because it's not, it's not, different levels. But the benefit of the group is you learn, you're surrounded by that culture of patience. I got anxious and got into a trade early just the other day on that poundcat. I'm still looking at that. And Lawrence was like, I'm still waiting. And I had to come back at the close of the day. And be honest, you were right to wait. I should have listened to you. Yeah, I thought the comment. But again, it's learning with others, learning in the group. Right. You know what I mean? And that reinforced learning and the education and everything like that. So yeah, to kind of just, I guess, wrap the interview up. And thank you for doing this, by the way, really, really appreciate it, really in depth. And I just want to say, like, if you had anything to say to anybody who was maybe on the fence with joining Trading 180 and they were like, kind of umin and arin about it, what would you say to them? I'll say this. I'll say this. Give it a shot. Yeah. And give it a shot. I laugh like this because Leon may cut this piece out. Give it a shot. Give it a shot at the lifetime membership level. Because it's too cheap. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna cut that out. But or maybe I won't, or maybe I won't. But but you know, but no, no, no. But if you cut that out, you know, pause. Yeah, I'll say give it a shot. Because it is worth you gonna spend, if you're, if you are serious about trying to learn to trade, you're gonna spend a ton of money on this and on that and on all kinds of things. Um, you owe it to yourself to give it a shot. And, and, and like Leon said, trust the process. Um, before you deviate from the process, speaking as on who deviates from the process, trust the process before you deviate from the process and see, and give it a shot. See how, see how it goes. See what your development is. I guarantee you that if you invest yourself, like if you participate, or if you engage in the content and with the group, you'll grow. Um, I mean, and that's, that's, that's what it's about at the end of the day. Will you grow? And how did you grow? And if you, if you, if you can say you grow, then you know it's worth it. And so that's what I would say. Give it a shot. And, um, you know, add job bread when you're in the group and cuss me out if I'm wrong. Oh, mate, thank you so much for that. And, um, again, I'll see you in the group, my man. And, brilliant. Thank you so much for coming on. It was fun. It was fun, man. It was fun. I appreciate doing this with you and I appreciate what you do. So, um, thank you, my man. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Peace.