 Well I should say that the goal is quite similar. Of course everybody want to sustain their nation to be able to survive until you know unlimited time. However the scope of their work that make it different. Country based which is government always consider that the nation or it country needs is their priority. Well private sector they probably have limitation limit area in their working area in this country like Indonesia or certain country but they work globally. So market is something that drive private sector to do something different. That these create differences between government and private sector how they achieve their goals. Even though their respectively want to achieve or reduce zero deforestation. The private sector has limited authority on helping their business partner. Talking about palm oil of Indonesia of course the authority of these companies is limited to their concession area. But of course in respect to secure their supply they will cooperate with the small holders which is 40% of Indonesia palm oil production. However this big number of small holders I hesitated that companies can accommodate them this 40%. Instead government may take a bigger role on this. That is why a multi-strict holder support and engagement is necessary to support small holders of Indonesia palm oil. It cannot be done only by government or only by private sector but all together. So this is one of the difficulties of differentiate small holders. It's a wide you know very wide area of small holders between 2 hectares to 25 hectares and this actually show a different attitude of plantation or good agriculture practices. So we have to differentiate these small holders. But who would play the biggest role? I still think companies with their power you know bigger company with their power has a very strong role to regulate their suppliers to meet their certain good standard because this is the behavior of companies. They will comply if the market required this high standard they will comply. That's how they meet their business. That is why if these big companies make good or high standard on their suppliers it will also educate them and at the same time companies also require to train or to capacitate their suppliers to meet their demand or their standard. I think that is an important collaboration between big companies and smaller one.