 All right. Once again, good morning everyone. Thank you for joining the call. We'll take a moment to pray and then we'll get started. If Pastor Jekomar joins, I will ask him to lead this session. But let's just wait and see. Okay. Let's pray and then we'll get started. Avni, would you like to lead us in prayer please? We'll start. Sure, Pastor. Thank you. Heavenly and gracious Father, we thank you for this beautiful day. We thank you for your awesome presence. We thank you for the promises that we stand upon. We thank you for this time of great fellowship, Father. When we are learning deep secrets, Father, we are learning about your truth, Father. The way you pour out your wisdom and love over us, Father. And the way you teach us, Lord Father, we are overwhelmed. We are thankful from the bottom of our hearts. We thank you for each of these Lord Father people who are joining in, Father, in your grace and mercy. We ask you to anoint our teachers. We ask you to fill us with your wisdom to have ears to listen, Father, to understand what you want us to speak to us, Father, this morning. And Lord Father, be rooted in your truth, Father, so that we can be true stewards of your kingdom, Father, and we can serve you in spirit and in truth, Father. As you are preparing us, we ask you to take complete control of the next few hours, Father, when we would be learning about your word. We would be prepared for becoming your kingdom's citizens, Father. And in every step we want you intervention, Father. Continue to lead us, watch over us, help us, guide us and fill us. We ask the spread in the precious name of Jesus our Savior. Amen. Amen. All right. Good morning, everyone. Welcome. And yeah, so this is our mentoring hour. We just keep it as an open time for question answers, discussion, things that we would like to have addressed from the Word of God. So feel free to go ahead and share your questions in the chat. And or you could unmute your mic and ask your questions or bring up a topic for discussion. And yeah, maybe Nancy, would you want to host today or would you like to host today? Yes, Pastor Shaw. I'll do that. Thank you. Okay. I was thinking I'll ask Pastor Jay Kumar, but I don't see him here. Okay. Okay. Okay. And then I'll see you go and maybe next week I'll ask Pastor Jay Kumar today. Okay. You go and host it. Yes. We'll all be here. Yeah. Go ahead. Please. Thank you. Sorry, I just heard my name being mentioned. No, I was thinking of asking you to host it. Oh, I see. But before you joined, I asked Nancy. Right. So then I said, okay, I'll ask Pastor Jay to do it next week. Sure. Sure. Okay. Thanks. Go ahead, Nancy. There's only a question on the chat. Yes, yes, Pastor. Yes, thank you. Good morning once again and welcome, everyone. So we have one question on the chat here from Kiran. It's from Hebrews 12 versus 22 to 24. I'm just trying to get that verse. She is asking for an explanation about that verse. So the scripture here is. So, yes, I've posted the verses here. We have come unto Monsign and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem and to an innumerable company of angels to the general assembly and church of the first one, which are written in heaven and to God, the judge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect and to Jesus, the mediator of the new covenant and to the blood of sprinkling that speak it better things than that of able. So, Kiran, you want an explanation for this and more specifically, you want to know is the second question on the chat connected to the first one, Kiran? Yes, Kiran. Okay. So that's what you want to know from Hebrews 12. Yes. Okay. So Kiran is asking what about all those pastors and believers who are dying in today's time? Okay. All right. Yes, I think Kiran here has also considered that verse at the end, which says the blood of sprinkling that speak it better things than that of able and today we have a lot of pastors and believers who are dying and Kiran, for the sake of the gospel is that for being persecuted for that reason? Yes, Kiran. Oh, fine. So she's asking how does that work when pastors and believers die for the sake of the gospel? Would anyone want to take this up and address her question? Okay. So Kiran, I'm not sure whether you want an explanation of the whole passage or just about the blood, but let's just give a quick summary of what the writer of Hebrews is doing here. In chapter 12, if you see the whole train of thought, he's finished in chapter 11 about the heroes of faith. Then he turns his attention to us teaching us how we run our journey of faith, run with endurance looking to Jesus. Then he talks about God disciplining us as children. So that's again another thought that he's covering in Hebrews 12. And then he comes to doing a lot of contrast, right? So that means he picks up things from the Old Testament says, don't be like that, don't be like that. So you can see, you know, if you were 16, he says, don't be like Esau, right? And then so he does that contrast. And then when he comes to verse 18, so between 18 and 22, again, there's another contrast. So in 18, he says verse 18, Hebrews 12, 18, you have not come to the mountain. That means in the Old Testament, right? The people came to the Mount Sinai, where there was the encountered God, but there's a very fearsome, awesome way. People could not even touch the mountain. Even if an animal came on the mountain, the animal was killed, right? So he says, that's not how we have come to God. Instead, verse, then he says verse 22, but you have come to Mount Zion. So there's a contrast here. In the Old Testament, people under the law, they couldn't come, they couldn't even approach God. They could even come near the mountain. In the New Testament, this is a Mount Zion. It's not talking about a physical mountain. It's talking about the heavenly Jerusalem, the Mount Zion in the spiritual realm, right? So everything in verse 22 to 24 on is spiritual. 18 to 21 is the natural under the law with Moses. 22 to 24 is spiritual. It is real, but it's spiritual, right? So he talks about, you know, where we have come. We've come to the New Jerusalem, we've come into the assembly, the church of the firstborn and so on. So all this deals with the spiritual. That's where we are. That's how we have come to God. That's what we belong to. That's how we approach God. That's all of that. And in that context, verse 24, he talks about the blood of Jesus Christ, right? The blood of sprinkling. So the covenant that Jesus has entered brought us into is a new covenant. That new covenant has been ratified or brought into effect by the sprinkling of the blood of Jesus. And the blood of Jesus is much more, it speaks better things than that of Abel's. Okay. That means Abel was murdered. His blood cried out for justice. But Jesus, his blood was shed. It established the new covenant. And his blood is announcing a lot better things, right? It's telling us that we've been justified. We reconcile with God. The work is completed. Redemption is completed. So on. So that's the contrast. So Abel's blood was crying out for mercy. The blood of Jesus announces mercy has been given. That's the contrast. Now, can we and should we apply this to martyrs? You know, people are being killed today for the gospel. In one sense, yes, right? The Bible tells us in Psalms, precious in the sight of the Lord, are the death of the saints. So if wherever people are being martyred, God is noticing. And in one sense, like the blood of Abel, there's a cry going out to God for that. So if that was your question, the answer is yes. You know, God is noticing it. There's a cry going out to God for that. Hope that helps, Kiran. Okay, Nancy can take over. Yes, Pastor. Thank you. So Kiran, is that all right? You have anything more to ask in this regard? Okay, sure. So Kiran is fine with that. Thank you, Pastor, for answering a question. So we have another question here from Zellie Tony. And she asks, what is the church's take on COVID vaccination? Because the points of view are divided among the believers here in Nagaland. Some are saying it's the mark of the beast and so on. And most common people are living in fear. So, yes, about the COVID vaccination and how we look at that, you know, from the biblical perspective. Yes, someone like to share your thoughts. Anyone from the faculty? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure all of us will agree on this. But yeah, Zellie Tony, our position is that, you know, the code vaccine is just a vaccine. And there is, you know, what's happened is there's been so many, you know, we call it conspiracy theories or misinformation that's flooding every day. People are putting out all kinds of things because of the internet and, you know, free access to technology and social media. So people are just putting out random stuff. Some people, and a lot of people are doing it intentionally, you know, whatever their motivation may be. They belong to different groups that are, you know, they have fun spreading misinformation, creating conspiracy theories and all that. And so in the last, you know, so year and a half or so, there have been so many nonsensical things being put out on the internet about vaccines, about all of this, right? And sadly, a lot of people have bought into it, including people in the church. And if you look at it, it's just vaccine. It's just to help the body fight against this particular, in this case, this virus. And in India, you know, babies are all vaccinated for different things. You know, it's just a normal thing. I mean, not just in India, but in many parts of the world. It's just to boost the immunity to help. And it's just taking science or knowledge and using it for our benefit. That's all it is. And God wants us to do that, right? He's given us minds. He's helped us. He helps us understand his creation. And today, the world is not the way God originally designed it. You know, there's all kinds of sicknesses and diseases, all kinds of things around us. And so God just wants us to use the knowledge we have to fight against sickness and disease. I mean, think about the great apostle Paul. He writes to Timothy and says, Timothy, I want you to drink a little wine for your stomach's sake because you have common stomach problems, infirmities. Now, most people will use that as an excuse to drink wine, but that's not the reason why Paul wrote it. He's just using some common information. He says, use wine as a medicine for its medicinal value. He's telling Timothy, now both are men of God. Both are apostles of God. So one apostle is telling another apostle, hey, use a little wine for your stomach's sake. You've got a lot of frequent stomach problems. What is he saying? Take something that will enhance your body's ability to overcome what his problem was. Do they believe in the power of God? Of course. Is Paul an anointed apostle? Of course. Did he work science wonders and miracles? Of course. But there's also the simple use your common sense, use your knowledge to stay healthy so you can serve God. And that's all this vaccine is. Today we've learned a lot more. We have advantage of scientific knowledge and we're just making use of it for our health and so on. So our responses go ahead. Jesus made an interesting statement, which I think sometimes it's a very strong statement, but it kind of speaks about the church today. He says, Jesus said this. He said, you know, the children of this world are wiser than the children of light. In other words, you should paraphrase it. He's saying the people of this world are smarter than God's people. You know, when you look at God's people fighting about should I wear a mask? Should I not wear a mask? Should I wear to get vaccines? It's like, hey, Jesus already spoke about you. You know, the children of this world are smarter. And the children of light. Now that's a very sad thing. And that's not the way it's supposed to be. But unfortunately, this is what's happening. Right. So our answer to this, and I'll keep it short. We can talk more on this, but our answer is my answer to it is, you know, use the knowledge God has given to us to protect ourselves, to take care of our health. All with the intent to, you know, live well and serve God. You know, so the, the vaccine being a mark of the beast is an untrue statement. It's a misinformation and we'll do well to avoid it. Okay. I'll stop here. But hopefully that answers your question. Thank you, Pastor. And as a little he does it, does it answer your question? Okay. Great. So thank you. Thank you so much for coming. We have, we have. Please, I want to ask something on the vaccine issue. Yes. I have a question. Yes, like a follow up question on the vaccine issue. Yes, please. Yes, please. Yeah, I know, I mean, Vietnam has been logged down for almost about four months now because of the same COVID issue. I happened to leave with a friend that just came to visit me just for assistance. Then he has the case that he went for the vaccine. And yet that same person has been affected with the same COVID. Now he has been taken to the quarantine for almost about 14 days now. So looking at the subject of vaccination with my understanding a vaccine is supposed to help prevent someone from actually getting the sickness. But these people are vaccinated. And this is not a story. This is an example that I have on my table right now that this person is vaccinated, but yet this person has the COVID. And then they are asking for a second job and all those things. So, but with my understanding, those who are taking vaccine, at least it should be one time for a very long time. But this one is like something that is done every month or at least you need to take treatment before you can actually be okay or actually be able to find the sickness. So looking at that understanding and the way vaccines are supposed to work. I will have a question to ask in a way that if those things really vaccines or these things are just things that are medicine, what is the main idea of this vaccine? Are they medicine or are they vaccines? Because vaccines at least must be administered once and not twice and then not three or four times just to make sure your immune system is fighting against a disease that we don't even know the origin. The scientists, because I happen to be in the medical field also. Up to now they don't know where that thing came from. How can we get the right vaccine in order to make sure that we are curing this disease? So these are the questions that I would like to ask as someone in the medical field who is also trying to add the scriptures and also this medical aspect. Thank you. That's your voice is echoing a bit. Yes, I think that's because Abraham has me on like he's probably not wearing headphones. So from his side. Okay. So Abraham's question is about the, you know, like the dosage frequency of this particular vaccine. And he's saying like if it's, if it were to be, you know, once in a long term, then that's easier. But this vaccine has booster doses. And, you know, basically he's saying that it, it needs to be more effective in the way it is administered. And also he talked about an example of his friend who contracted the COVID infection. So what I want to say about this is see Abraham, it's like any other scientific, you know, scientific progress with regard to any other medicine or vaccine. Now, if you particularly look at vaccines, you know, they've been developed based on, you know, different techniques. And then it's taken years for several vaccines to, to come to the place where they are now. And it is true that, you know, some vaccines need to be administered quite often, like even if you take the flu vaccine, which is, I think generally it's not given out here in India, but other countries like the US and all, they do it often. They, they even do it like, you know, every year. So depending on the, on the science of that vaccine, you may have to take it, you know, more often. But the point is, see, as Pastor mentioned, this is, this is for our benefit. This is to boost our immunity and this is to protect us against the current pandemic. So overall, the bottom line is that it's a good thing. It's a good thing to protect our body because we know that this body is the temple of God, you know. So with that in mind, I think, yes, I know that we may not have the perfect solution yet, or, you know, how soon are we going to have the perfect solution? I don't know because there are all the effort, scientific efforts that are going on. But whatever is available and whatever is good, I think we can just go ahead and take that. And coming to the question of, you know, someone contracting COVID, I know we are digressing over here. This is more like a scientific discussion. But what I want to say is, even if you look up the numbers of, you know, the proportion of people who are adversely affected by the vaccine, you would notice that proportion is very small compared to those who are actually benefiting from it. And this happens in the case of other medicines also and, you know, so many other things. So I think we shouldn't let a few adverse reports here and there stop us from taking advantage of the benefits of the vaccine. So just some thoughts there, Abraham. And I hope that helps. And if someone else wants to add. Is that okay? Yes, thank you so much. We have John Paul here with the question. So John says, Ephesians two, one and five. We read, we were dead in trespasses. How is this different from dead to sin as we see in Romans six? Apasadix, would you like to? I'm not really sure about the difference because I know that there are two different words that are used like trespass and sin, but both are referring to the same thing, missing the mark with a willfully intentionally. So just that, yeah, let me just read Ephesians two. Yeah, John, you want to? Yeah, my question was, how is that in sin different from dead to sin? Okay, okay. So Ephesians two was one. So talks about how we were dead in trespasses and sins and also verse five that we were dead in trespasses and sins. And I'm just reading the verses. Romans six. And okay, Romans six and verse two says, how shall we who died to sin? Is there a difference? Well, I don't really think there is a difference. The fact that we were, you know, dead, alive to sin and actually dead to other things of God. Yeah, I think so. So one, dead in see Ephesians two one and two. Talking about our state before coming to Christ and we are dead in sin. That means we are fully given. We are spiritually dead and we are in sin. That means we are sinning. We are full of sin. If Romans six talks about our life in Christ, we are out of sin, but we're dead to it. That means we have no more connection with it. So being dead in sin is talking about our unsaved state and we are fully immersed in it. I mean, we're given to it. We, you know, we're in it. Two sin dead to sin. Roman six is about our state as believers and we have no connection. We are dead to it. You know, I mean, I have nothing to do with it. It's like a dead man. He's not going to sin. So he's dead to sin. So the difference is very clear, both in terms of where we are spiritually and what is our relationship with sin. Right. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I hope that answers your question. Yes. Thank you. All right. Yeah. Thank you so much. So we have more questions here in the chat. Divya asks, I came across this term called the doctrine of limited atonement, which says that the death of Christ was sufficient to atone for the sins of the whole world, but it was God's will that it should effectively be those and only those who were chosen from eternity and given to Christ by the Father based on scriptures like John 644 and such. Is it the right biblical perspective? Okay. So we are asking if this doctrine, which is about limited atonement is correct. You know, when we, according to what she has written here, it seems like more like a, you know, there are some who are chosen by the Father who can only receive the redemption from Christ's work. So is this the right biblical perspective? Yeah. Would anyone like to take this out? Okay. Divya. So the answer to that is it's not right. It's wrong. Simple reason is the cross is for everybody. Right. So if you go to the very words of Jesus in John 3 16, very simple, for God so loved the world. He didn't say God loved the ones he had chosen before. No. For God to love the world that he gave is only begotten son so that whoever. So you just look at the New Testament, the words, whoever, all everyone, the cross is for everyone. The cross is for all the cross for everyone who believes. Right. So. So this really is a difference in understanding about what predestination is about. So this idea of the doctrine of limited atonement is an extrapolation of the idea of predestination. And it's a misapplication of it. So they're basically saying, you know, the Bible does say that there are those who have been predestined, but we explain predestination as not as God's predetermination but of people to be saved, but as God's predetermination of his plan or what will happen to those who are saved. Right. So the gospel is for everybody. The cross is for everybody. The people who respond, everybody's invited. The people and this you can clearly see even in the store in the parable that Jesus gave about the kingdom where, you know, the rich man, you know, had a wedding feast and he tells the servants to go call everybody, you know, call on the highways and so on. And he says all in many are invited everybody. The invitation is open, but the ones who respond, they are the ones who become the chosen ones. So many are called few are chosen. Who are the chosen? The ones who respond to the call, but the call goes out to everybody. Now God in his fore knowledge knows who will respond and say, yes, God knows ahead of time. Who are the chosen ones? He doesn't decide their choice. He just knows their choice. Right. And then he has a plan for those who will respond, which is to be conformed to the image of his son. That's Romans chapter eight versus 29 and 30. So this doctrine of limited atonement is a misapplication of that. So what they are saying is, hey, because there are people who are called the chosen ones, therefore what God did on the cross, what Christ did on the cross is limited to only those chosen. That is not true at all. Because throughout the gospels and the episodes, the invitation is for whosoever will call on the name of the Lord. It is for everyone. So the gospel is an open invitation for everyone. And those who respond are the chosen ones. Not because God decided their choice, but God knew their choice. Okay. So that's how we should understand it. Hope that it helps. Thank you. Thank you so much, Pastor. I was really troubled to, you know, hear about this. But yeah, it makes it very clear. And which was the reference you spoke about in Romans? Romans eight, 29 and 30. It's one of those key verses and about predestination. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. And thank you for that question. We move on to Abhishek's question here in the chat section. So Abhishek has shared two verses. Okay. So Matthew 23 verse nine, he says, Jesus said, Do not call anyone on earth, your father. For one is your father. He who is in heaven. And then verse 10 and do not be called teacher for one is your teacher, the Christ. And based on these verses, Abhishek asks, Pastor, can you explain these two verses? And then second question. Jesus said regarding the modern church culture about spiritual father and spiritual mother. Third question is today we see a rise in spiritual father and mother in the church. Is it biblical or just they want to control or dominate the believers? So we can take this up in two parts Abhishek. Maybe first we can explain these verses. And then I think your second and third question are kind of tied together. You're asking about this, you know, I don't know if it's a new culture, but the culture of spiritual fathers and mothers in the church and whether this is biblical or it is something that you know, leaders used to control and dominate believers. Okay. So the, the verses here, I just like to share some thoughts and then, you know, the others could also please share your views. Although it says, you know, Jesus said that do not call anyone on earth your father. Now obviously we know that, you know, he, he's not forbidding us from addressing a father as a father. Okay. Because we have other scriptures in the Bible that say you honor your father and mother. You know, so if we are honoring them, then obviously we, we know that, you know, God has put them in a certain position in our lives. And then we have as a part of our honor, the, the due respect that we have for them and all that, you know, comes into play. So while interpreting statements like this, we shouldn't, you know, take it as a one-off thing. Like we say, right, you let scripture interpret scripture. So there are other scriptures that talk about honoring fathers, honoring mothers. So Jesus was not saying that you should not call anybody father, but he was saying that we must, we must know that our heavenly father is the greatest and give him that priority above everyone else. And similarly, you know, it applies even to teacher where we, we consider, you know, God as our greatest teacher. And coming to the second part here, the thing about spiritual fathers and mothers. Well, in the Bible, we do see that we see, you know, matured believers nurturing and guiding and leading younger believers. A good example would be that of Paul, who mentored Timothy, he mentored, you know, Titus, so many other people. So even though, like, you know, you don't have lots of scriptures where Timothy is addressing Paul as father and all that, we do know that this kind of relationship, a positive relationship did exist in the Bible. And so, yeah, so this, this, this culture, there's nothing wrong with it. But then I do understand the part where you're saying, you know, when, when people are, people have to call someone father or, you know, spiritual and then there is a relationship created there through which the leaders, you know, dictate terms, they, they control the decision of the believers. Now, obviously we know that, you know, something like that, it's not biblical. It's not born out of love. And so having that kind of a relationship is not biblical and it is, it is wrong. Okay. So just some thoughts that I wanted to share and maybe the others could also please add to this. Yeah. I think what Nancy said is correct. And, you know, so basically there is a lot of misapplication of this whole idea of spiritual fathers and mothers in the church today, which is just another form of control. And, and we've done a sermon series. I'm just going to share the link here. We addressed this whole thing a couple of years back. And so if you're interested, we broke it as a three-part sermon series. We addressed, you know, this whole, and a lot of it is part of this prophetic movement you're seeing today where, you know, people ask who's your Moses or who is your Paul or whatever, you know, and a lot of that. But actually problems in the church happen in cycles just like, you know, fashion trends keep going. They go out of trend and they come back and this thing. So what we're seeing today was actually something that happened back in the 80s. In the 80s, there was a shepherding movement and it was just a, you know, regurgitation of the same truth. Now it's coming back now about, you know, 40 years later in the form of this prophetic father's mothers. So it's kind of like this whole thing, these problems keep, you know, surfacing, then it goes away and then it keeps surfacing over and over again. But, but as Nancy said, there is a right application to it. And when God genuinely places leaders, you know, people to nurture you, wonderful. But you don't have to, you know, go around calling people as your spiritual father and mother. There's no, there's no need to do that. You quietly receive for their lives and serve God. Ultimately, we all have to serve the Lord. And we don't have to go around calling so and so is my spiritual son and so is my spiritual daughter. There's no need to do that. You know, just, just be normal, you know, if somebody is receiving from your life, thank God for it. Just, just, you know, all of us are submitted to Christ. That's all, you know, now we know Paul referred to Timothy. That was his expression of affection for Timothy. My beloved son, he called him. That's okay, but we don't have to go around calling everybody my beloved son, my beloved daughter and make a big deal of it. I think that's, you know, just out of place in the church today. It's become a big deal and we shouldn't fall into the same mistakes. Thank you, pastor. Abhishek, I hope that answers your question. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, Abhishek. So Zalit only has another question here for us. She says, what's, what's the right approach to give a good defense with someone who's inclined to new age teachings on inner healing, digging to the past for healing and deliverance? So Zalit only, I just want to understand your question here. So you're saying that there are people who use new age techniques for inner healing. Is that right or wrong? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And are you asking more specifically like should believers use these teachings or you're saying in general, you know, a lot of people are using this believers and unbelievers. Nancy, she's talking specifically about looking into the past for healing and deliverance. If you look at her, look at her question, she's talking about like should we go into the past to bring healing? I think that's the specific thing. Okay, pastor. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Thank you, Zalit only. Thank you, pastor. So yes, is it alright to dig deep into the past for inner healing? That's Zalit only's question. So should we do that as believers? Jeanne is on the call. Thank God. Yeah, I'll try and make an attend. So from what I understand of new age religion, it is not specifically about digging into the past that is termed as new age. New age beliefs are generally about, you know, that God is in everything, all things, you know, are one, you know, those concepts of monoism, pantheism, you know, where man is God, that one zone experience really validates, you know, what God does. So I that's what I understand is new age, but according to what Zalit only is asked, she specifically asked if digging into the past is required for inner healing. So, you know, just through a counseling profession, I think I want to speak through that is that there are many circumstances, life experiences, emotional hurts that we may go through in our life that does impact the way we think, the way we behave and the way we feel. So a lot of these instances or conditions that we may go through does affect our person, does affect our relationships and even to an extent of the way that we see God. So when we look at inner healing or when we're looking at emotional wholeness, although you don't dwell into the past, but I think it is it's a practice or it's helpful to understand what could be some of the roots or the sources of these hurts and these difficulties so that, you know, you become aware and understand what are some of the patterns or habits or lifestyle changes that you've made as a result of those those past thoughts or past incidents. So looking back, so digging back into the past really helps us become aware but as a believer we are called to put off the old and put on the new. So, you know, so whatever has been of the sinful nature, whatever has been of our past is to be kept aside and taken and the identity of Christ is taken on. So even in emotional healing, you need to come to a place of awareness of where you are and what really draws you into sin or draws you into emotional, you know, wrong patterns so that you can begin to meditate on God's words specifically and deal with some of those conditions. I'll just give maybe a very quick example. For example, let's say a person who's abused, you know, as a child. So there can be very many thoughts or understanding about who they are that impacts their living, their current conditions. But being a believer knowing who Christ is with the word you renew your mind so that you do not go back to the past forms, you know, the work of the flesh or the work of the mind that really pulls you back to a place of sin or the place of being away from God. But as a believer, you would use some of those things that you have found from your past so that it doesn't get repeated again and you have your new new way of instructing yourself in God's word, meditating yourself in God's word so that, you know, those behaviors or those thoughts are renewed. Capturing all of that, captivating all of that, you know, the obedience to Christ so that we live modern lives. Yeah. Thank you Nancy. Thank you. Thank you Jean. And so you told me I hope that answered your question. Yes ma'am, that was very helpful. Why I asked the question was, you know, like in the past, we used to minister together with other, partner with other ministers and work together and well they're ministering, you know, like the ministers, they used to be in the past and, you know, they do all those things so I want to be very clear. So in the future when I minister to people, it will be more effective. That was very helpful. Thank you so much. Can I just add a quick. Yes Ma'am. Just to clarify, right, so the, I mean, what we say is there is no need to dig up the past. You know, to whatever extent, okay, you know, to some, like if somebody wants to go back and, you know, address a specific things, okay, to that extent, yes. But not the way that inner healing is being done in the church today. Right. So there are, like you're mentioning, there are many ministries that do inner healing. But what they do is they make you sit down and they make you recall, you know, sit and talk about what has happened 15-25 years ago and things like that. That is very unhealthy and we should not do that. I think to answer your question, in all forms of healing, whether it's physical healing in a healing, follow Jesus. That's the answer. Jesus never, when he ministered to people, he never said, okay, what did your grandfather do? Or, you know, what happened 20 years ago? You never find Jesus interviewing anybody that way. You know, and your answer is, hey, just follow Jesus. Minister the way Jesus ministered. He never interviewed people and took them through this process. There were some instances, like Jean pointed out, said, okay, yes, there are situations where you need to handle in the way Peter restored Jesus, the way Jesus restored Peter, right? It, you know, it is a beautiful one in John 20, you know, he just said, you know, he knew what Peter was struggling with, but you see him, he doesn't go back and dig up the past, you know, hey Peter, you know, seven days ago, you denied me three times or 15 days ago, he doesn't do that. He goes forward from where he sticks him forward. So a short answer to your questions literally in every case of ministry, just follow Jesus. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you for adding that point. We have one question here in the chat and I think we have time, sufficient time just to answer this one question. So we will take this up before we wrap up today. So Herbert asks, I have a church I pray from at my place of work and my church in my motherland in the village, but I would prefer to send my tithe to my motherland church. Is there any problem? Thank you. So, yes, would put someone like to take up this question on tithe, giving tithe? Well, I'll just respond to that. Well, tithes are the way the Lord instituted is, you know, to the place where, like in today's time, to the church where you are, where you are one is part of and where one is virtually fed and where one is connected in order to receive and to give, in order to serve where one is especially connected. So, if whichever church that you are connected in that manner, where you are fed spiritually, where you are fellowshiping, where you are serving and receiving, you know, that would be the best place to give the tithes. Yes. Thank you, Pastor. Herbert, does that answer your question? Yes, please, madam. Okay. Yes. Would anyone else want to add to this of tithes? Okay. And I think Herbert's question is answered as well. So, what we can do now, we just have a minute left. So, I would like to request someone to please lead us in prayer and then we wrap up today's session. Yes, anyone? Abhishek, would you like to lead us please? Okay, madam. Thank you. Heavenly Father, we come before your presence, writing the name of Lord Jesus. Whatever we learned from today's session in mentoring class, bless all the faculty teachers and bless all the APC students in online e-learning sessions. And I ask you, Lord, to give us each one of us a passion and a desire for you more and hunger after you, Lord. And bless this Bible college and use our teacher more for your kingdom and bless them abundantly. Thank you for this session. Thank you for mentoring us. Thank you for guiding us, Lord, by these teachers. Bless this Bible college. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you Abhishek for leading us in prayer today. So I know we all have classes to get to. So have a wonderful time of learning. God bless all of you and we will connect again on this mentoring session next Thursday. Thank you. God bless everyone and see you again.