 Man check it man boss talk one-on-one man. We here in Los Angeles, California, man We hey, I didn't run into a GM in Europe my guy to be way Richard Ross. Yeah, we go up there Man, thank you for coming on this over there. We're doing it again. Man. I love doing it too, man It's something else man about like when you cut when I come out here now every time I've been out here And then boss talk always get the interview freeway. That's my highlight moment So I was kind of nervous cause like man, am I gonna get him? They say he out of town. He is bagels I was like, what? Yeah, I want to I just went to Vegas, uh You know top rank had a fight. Yeah, yeah I was able to tell the Fimo and I went up there because one of my guys Troy Isley is signed the top ring. Okay, so I'm helping him now showing him how to market itself great fight Mm-hmm. I smell this But I don't believe that He is getting the due respect he should get so He hollered at me down in Lockhead, Louisiana, and I was down at the National Scotland fighter Looking on the rocks and looking for the next youngster. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I understand that the next one is gonna come For the national. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're a woman is gonna come out of them National you've been focused on that like crazy ever since you came home ever since you've been there You just spoke you tapped in the boxing. What made you this get in the boxing like that? Let me tell you it's a long story I'm here. I was in Vegas one year. I think it was the Marvin Haggman sugar. Okay, okay back then. Yeah, we're the Seasons Palace In a Don King. Yeah. Yeah, Cali up to the table And he shook everybody hand at the table. Who's bunch of us from LA? We had a great big table plenty of food And then food everything He couldn't miss us You know and you know some of the guys at the table is it in winners. Yeah, yeah, of this big Yeah, but now you that you see people wearing now. Yeah, these are the first guys matter of fact my guy Tell me the first time I saw he is I thought it was a webcast of a car Wow, that'd be I Remember when it was where like the Ben sign you remember that that's what I think here's was a be as they Put the big Ben's emblem some of them was snatching off cars. I remember it. Believe it or not They also seen it and they were so amazed by they start jerking them off cars and wearing them I'm tell you I remember that now. I wouldn't doubt it I wouldn't because it was mimicking what they were seeing and what you would just say right right and that and that's something about Influences like man, they see it and they try to do it. They want to be it, you know Absolutely. So absolutely. So so don't sugar everybody hand at the table and fast forward Who ten years twelve years, I'm sitting in federal prison and Boxing come across my mind and write my autobiography and I was like wow What would have happened? That day if you'd have told Don came you had three million dollars and you was willing to give him all that money to take you with him where would you be at today and You know, I look back at all the stuff Don King and me and you know the Mike Tyson This is before Mike Tyson was even before he was telling before Mike Tyson was even nobody nobody knew him Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know so and so many other great fighters that Don King had They came after that incident. Uh-huh, you know, I knew that I would have been able to get in and and and bring some type of Value My goal is anybody that I mess with is to bring value to him, you know Anyone interview with you right now, man, I want to bring value to always do to what you're doing if I can't bring value Why am I here? Right? Right, you know what what what what good is it? So when I was writing my book and I thought about it and I was like wow You probably wouldn't even be in prison right now All right, you'd have three million. Well, I had never had it. I had the money. You just didn't do it I just didn't give you money said wasn't there Wasn't focused on it. I just didn't know, you know, nobody explained the future to me. Yeah Yeah, I had investments, you know, I motel tire shops beauty salons, but I had never thought about You could be a boxing promoter But you think about it when you sitting in prison and you you can't think about a lot of things Yeah, you might get rid of you People snap a life sentence on your own man, you still have things in the water That you gonna miss yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember some guys who's going through something They say yeah, man, come on ride with me people. Thank you really arrived You just thinking about things that was going on in the world, you know When you locked up you're not going out there, but your mind can take you there Yes, we'll have some money, you know, I mean your mouth is is is is for super powerful and you know And that's one of the other things that I learned is to allow yourself to dream Yeah, you know and and that's one of the things that that I really feel We as black people Have lost our ability to dream man and a dream is Vision yeah, yeah, you know a dream is Something saying that this is possible Your mind is telling you that this is possible that you could accomplish this goal You know that a chest to read that article they did in an LA magazine on me. Well, what when did they do it? 2013 no, I didn't read it. How was it about like did it? What did it capture? When he came to interview me, he was right my bituary Wow he said he was right my bituary and I Was telling him about my business plan He's a yo, you ain't a business plan and you dad What the hell you doing with a business plan? You don't need no business plan. You need a furrow Yeah, yeah, yeah But I Was laying out my business plan. You know, oh, I'm gonna get in the boxing or I'm gonna have a clothing line Oh, I'm gonna do a movie only our books only our mixed tapes. Oh, I'm gonna be working with rappers I'm gonna do concerts Wow Visionary, you know, that's the thing man Like when you look at where you come from all the trial you the trifectas the things that you went through to get to where We had now nobody could have wrote Well, hey, no way. No nobody sees you doing everything that you you've been body Overspan of like light. I didn't see it. No way. You can see I didn't see it I didn't see it ace. It starts to come gradually now. No, you have the first vision Right with that vision Can be altered. Yeah, you know can be made bigger made brighter the So so no, I didn't know I mean I never thought because I Didn't my time up in Texas. Yeah. Yeah, so being in Texas. I no longer got LA news paper LA news Well, I get out of jail. I don't even know marijuana is legal Yeah, yeah So I had no idea that I would be in the marijuana business. That was the furthest thing for my mind I I had met a you know when I caught the second case I caught the second case Well, while I was doing the first case I Saw what death row did okay You know man, Arrio was Sally's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I got a first-hand look at when death row was was birthed Wow, I was in the delivery room. You heard and say it all, you know, I was in the room when David Kenner, Arrio and me were all in the same attorney room. That's crazy, man Like did you think it would be as big as it was God? I Didn't even even in it, you know When Harry was talking about music, I was talking about sports You saw my music he was talking music. I was talking about sports Exactly and by and I had all the plugs in the music already. I already knew did griffy older Smith But I met Berry Gordy one time So I already had the plugs in the music, you know did griffy He was a part of the when he part of death row 2. Did he help? He was he negotiated from what I heard and heard it read in the papers where dick told me his self That he took shield to a telescope and he negotiated the contract for shield within the scope But you know dick was one of first independence him and older Smith was one of first independent Record people black record people in business some kind of way DLC say he was tired in there too when death row first Was being born I owned it Wow how What death row used to be Future shock Future shock was a company Jerry and I and in sugar the guy named dick griffy started and You know all the period of time In that business space sometimes Things can get you know Next up when we interviewed him. Yeah, him dick grit griffy It was four of them is way the way they explained it to me. Okay, okay, but that now that was that's excluding Harry L Though right cuz area was locked up at the time. Yeah. Yeah, you never just got out of it. How's he doing? I used to very well for we know Ari's a genius. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna just let you know flat out He's a junior the man is a genius, you know, he's one of smartest dudes. I ever saw in my life I ever had a chance to talk to you know, he he's on the ball Wow And and the thing is man like to see where you had now told me the dispensary man after that Did you ever think you couldn't have thought it cuz you didn't know but it's crazy that that that you even dealing with it now No way in no one nobody would ever think well, you know when when I first started to get Into the the motion to get a dispensary Daily won't convict the fellas to work in this mission. Wow That's how I twisted this citizen's wisdom So we had to go in and argue why Convicted fellas should be allowed to work in a dispensary. Wow, that's crazy and and and guess who they picked to argue Why would pick me? Oh And why why was it so difficult like Well for me, it was real simple, you know, but you have politicians Who never smoke weed? They say Never so we So they know nothing about weed, right? What they're making decisions For the industry They really understand that had it not been for the people who went to prison For selling weed it wouldn't be legal right now. Wow Wow, those people made a statement when you go to prison for that That was that was literally making a statement like hey, I believe in this. Yeah, I believe in this enough to go to prison for it So the people who went to prison for landwine Should be held in in in a highlight Especially all the people who were in the business because at those guys not made those sacrifices It wouldn't be worse that today. It's crazy like to convince You know them to how did you just break down the how did you get them convinced that it's okay for a guy who has a felony To be able to you know, not that it's okay That it's absolutely necessary. Wow That this business is not going to survive if these guys are not allowed to participate Hmm First of all guys Did not stop selling weed Because of prison Prison is not what Stopped people from selling me. I want No Can't do it with prison Prison ain't stopping them selling cocaine crack um It said to me They still sell all that stuff and they're giving ways of time out for but dudes are still out here selling it Oh Because they have no other way to make an income This is where they know they hustlers The drug business has no selling They don't care what color you is They don't care about none of that all they cares about Do you have some money? Will you take care of your business you do those That's all the drug business care about I thought about you when I was all the way over I said have you going in a bit doing the things that you've done Have did did any deal ever go bad? Where you went in to purchase some and it didn't go right a lot of you because you like that I mean, I'm anti That's what I'm saying like like There is crazy. I lost a friend like that He got shot, you know because the deal didn't go right because somebody tried to rob them They came down from another state thing was from Memphis They came to Texas and they tried to you know They they're supposed to do a deal and go back to Memphis But when they came they didn't they came to rob it I mean when they end up killing them, but like there has been cases like that I know I've seen as well in the game. I never never got robbed never got robbed. That's what I was thinking I almost got kidnapped before Oh almost got kidnapped And you know, I don't have people run off with millions Correct millions Millions of dollars millions of dollars they don't run off with uh The way I looked at it is if I give it to you Then it was something I could lose Yes, because you're funding this you're funding it to him. Correct. So if you fund something to him You already got it. You got to be something that you can afford to to loot. They may not give it back They may not say, you know what I appreciate what he did for me Will make sure he get his too How did you determine who you would front to? What well, you know, it's it's it's a numbers game You know what I was just saying I would do to tell because the person he comes to you He wants to be what where the first thing I would do is try to make sure they're not smoking dope That's the most important thing. That's the most important thing. Yeah, and then you front of somebody to smoke though They're gonna smoke. That's right. That's so true Now they might start off a little while to make some money, but eventually the dope gonna catch up with him Mm-hmm. So that would be the first thing Then I would look for guys With a temperament like mine you know guys who um Maybe down they luck You know, maybe didn't do well in school or maybe was a great athlete. Those guys are always good Yeah, you don't know they just got to be trained a lot of times a lot of times it comes down to What you know and who you know and when I say What you know because what you know can get you a long ways You know, if you're good at what you do it you're good at your trade, you know, you can come into place and and and If you're smart, you know like me I'll come in the end. I'll be like I work for free Yes, you think I pay me nothing They said teach me the game Teach me the game coach Who you know Now, you know somebody Good person and they wouldn't have trained you That's another way to get in I thought about if somebody knows when you say who you know Meaning if somebody's already connected to you and they bring that person and say, hey, you know, this is my friend. He you know Yeah, that's the same thing same thing. Yeah That's a that's a level further away That if they come straight to me Yeah, yeah, but if you a lot of times what happens the people If say you front this guy or whoever this person He's going to have people that he's dealing with And as he get more loyal to them or if he comes up on a level He may come bypassed him or find a way to get to you because he's trying to figure out a way to connect to the So right where that's always that's always ever going on to the sword Everybody's trying to get to the sword. I'm trying to get as cheap as I can and as good as I can so And that's and and that should be with any business you go into. Wow. Yeah Get it as good as you can and and hopefully, you know, you don't have to step on nobody's toes you know doing it and and what I mean like If I take you to the source, you ain't got to cut me out. I mean you can go together So often, you know, we you take somebody to the source I they cut you out. They don't want to deal with you no more and that's for real And in the source story to to do it directly with them. Yeah. Yeah when they do that I feel shaded from both ends. I'd be like, man, you you serving that doing it I brought I brought you three y'all cut me out the deal and then you go to the other guy Man, I brought you to this dude and you gonna cut me out. Come on Like scarface moving the same thing when he took him in medics connect. Yep, and he ended up You know that that that happens in the game that there's something on like how did you all get over the snowfall thing and how they You know how they sidestepped you and did did did did it help? Did it hurt? Did it the reputation wise? I mean, you know It helped I did it helped in a way and it hurt in a way You know, it helped in a way because now they know black television shows of that genre Makes money. Yeah. Yeah Because they say there was a story being told already Hmm. Hmm. So I say no, no, no, no, no, no. My story ain't been told That little it comes himself. Yeah, it's a lot more than not more than six years. Yeah. Yeah for sure All that's the six years. It's not more than six years of me. Wow way more I had to ask you something else. I thought about two Dave Mays. You see how he connected with uh She'll night when he how he's locked up. Would you ever done something like that when you was in the feds for us? Talk on the phone and do like a AI podcast. I probably would I see what I'm saying. I did the interviews on the phone Okay, so I probably would have uh, I probably would have did something like that had it been going when when it's crazy, you know in 96 when my story broke this reporter came down and he came down on my birthday, okay, and He brought me a domain name Really? He he brought my name This reporter came down. He brought my domain name. I don't even know What happened to it or I still only know what yeah, yeah, uh This was at the bertha of of the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and had I been more aware You would kept it going and I could have kept Capitalized on the war, you know when when dark alliance. I mean, yeah when dark alliance came out No, my story is the first time Any major newspaper ever published a story on the internet. Really? Yeah But the thing is if you did you you'd have kept that domain and kept that same House, you know mindset to keep pushing in the technology It would have just kept rolling. It got bigger and bigger, right? But I I didn't know why I didn't understand technology I didn't either. I get it. I'm gonna upset. I didn't get technology when it first came out It was like I think it was like al al al. It was all type of You know, we would I worked with different stuff during that time to Uh d ones and I wanted the newspaper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was always bad starting to read the newspaper, you know, I was still You know a little rough about about my stuff. Yeah. Yeah Especially technology, right because at that time everything was hand-to-hand tangible and you even the mail, you know The us mail they didn't even believe in that's why they didn't get ahead of it either Right because they was like that that's gonna that ain't gonna change nothing We're gonna keep this thing. I'm design was was nobody I'm a little one around It was just a song wasn't around hand to hand Is what I'm doing wasn't around the mailman pull up. He still got the checks, you know, but yeah But that changed, you know, and I don't think they really because if they didn't knew In my I was like if they didn't knew they got ahead of it and they to start creating their emails They just start being more impactful, you know, link, right? I'll keep my truck because they had everybody at the time If you think about it, they had all everybody coming to them for all information But they that's when you and you seen them they filed I don't know if you you probably still locked up there, but they found To a chap, you know, like they was losing all counting flow. He's gonna a well. No, I'm talking about the us post office Oh, no, I didn't pay attention. Oh, they were losing all counting. They lost everything Yeah, but they could have had everything in control But that's how you get the amazon ups and everything else started to get stronger And that's the that's the part where you got to be on top of it Like you just said, you got to you got to see it before it happened, you know, you're visually that is You gotta be a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you when when you look at like the dispensary and and and opening it up? What what is the just run me down through there on what we got what we got going on well My dispensary gives me the right To sell weed in california Okay With that it gives me the opportunity to Use my skills To make this business Become one of the biggest businesses That I can do What I do at my dispensary we We buy weed from Brands, okay We able to buy from the best growers in california Um All the way down to the worst growers So when you come in you got a selection we we have I think 80s cues is what they call it. Wow in in store terms and that mean different brands We that that we carry um And it puts me on equal footing with everybody else that has a dispensary Okay You know being one that's dealt with drugs drug selling dealt with all type of drugs Does that give you a upper hand? Now that you're only dispensing well, I feel like I get myself up, but I mean I mean when I look at at When I look out here at the world I see a lot of people Who can't think okay, are we fused today? I mean When one time I read a book and it says what's the difference between a guy who can't read and a guy who won't read Ain't much different. Hey, no different. No Because I look at like the guy who can't read if he started trying because I was a guy who couldn't read it one time But I started trying to read And then I eventually learned how to read Now a guy who said we can't read but he won't Is he lying? You like you so right like that like when you go into the dispensary How did you come up with the design how everything would lay out? I had I had some people come in and and design it, you know Show me what I ain't no designer. I know but you still gotta prove it. That's that's a bother You know the layout, you know one of my one of my one of my strong points Let me give y'all my I'm gonna give y'all my secret Okay As I let the people who do what they do Do Who am I to tell you you you you a designer how can I tell you what to design? Yeah, you know that tell them I want something they gonna write. Yeah, and that makes sense. That makes sense. Well, okay What about the quality though the quality of the product? How do you know what they're telling you is the best? It's my manager. Okay in my store. Okay It's the best damn manager in the whole world here and now I put her up against anybody you never see the best manner I Listen, I want myself an eye regards When I go around I hundered myself. Wow Because I seen brilliance What gave you the confidence and how did you figure that out? You had to you had to know something about it I met her at a book signing and dispensary. Okay. Okay. That makes sense So I'm going to this bit dispensary and I'm I'm signing books and my weight is innate dispensary too I'm selling weed too, but you know, you can't actually say I couldn't actually sell the weed They had to sell it for me, but I could tell people. Hey, go buy my weed too. You know that my book go by me Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I meet her You know cool So again in front of we start talking I don't know she the manager at the store Wow, this store cracking. Yeah, it's going in. It's cracking. Wow I'm thinking she's just a butt-tender Right. Yeah, she carries you You know, you know Okay, she's getting there working Figure that out. We start talking and and and then she started giving me tips Hey, this is what you need to do with your brand Oh, yeah Why did you know that you said, well, this is what this was selling the most That's what they buying. Wow So I started to Gravitate to her knowledge one guy I called her. Hey, what you think what is it? And I won my license So when I called her I was like, hey, I won my license What you think about coming in and running my store for me and she's Ah, you know, I'm over here. You know, if you need some help, I'll do what I can And then this incident happened Where this NFL football player beat up his wife Who was black and he was white then it killed her His dad was put on in the store. Whoa So they took all the black product out of the store And she quit Wow And there really she knows she she don't want to be there. My store was too much from being ready to open. Wow What luck, so this is she called you. She's like, hey, man, I'm nope We was talking y'all already talk because she was already going to help me with my store Anyway, anyway, even if she stayed at the job. She's already Committed to helping me. You know, it told me y'all I'm gonna help you get your store going. Don't worry about it um But then But that happened. It was a shoe. Oh, yeah. Yeah Do you think that's that's one of your qualities to go in and see different people that got certain talents and be able to Pick them out. Well, that's the game. Mm-hmm. If you can spot If you can spot great people, well, I read this book one time and I can't even think of the author I read this book one time and the guy said, what's your greatest commodity? There's one guy say Oh cups God, you can see it. He said no The greatest commodity is the people Yeah, yeah Because without the people the cup the car the houses none of that shit don't mean nothing Is there people just the people it's the people Now I like to say I really like to see you thriving doing the business that you once was really There was a it was a black eye in the game because you was doing the business now to be doing that business How dope is that? It's super dope. I'm gonna get a game of black No, I've been hanging out with you boxes. Oh, yeah, I'm like, we're all together You know, that's right. You got that jab on that. It's dope though that to see you pull that off You know, it's like man, you know, because when people think of you they think of that You know what I mean? So it's just a it's a dope way to brand yourself. Wait till you see some of the articles They've been writing in the weed magazine. Well, I can only imagine. Hey, some of these writers they got vision They say they go even take the game. Oh, well, I guess. Oh, let's see this incredible The game is oh, we belong to it. You know, I mean, but I mean that that's what I say, man Like the universe lock it in a certain way. Man. God is different. You don't play with us, man Like it had to be something to it But what about people that's incarcerated for like weed and marijuana like a lot of the partners of mine like Do they ever get, you know, it's all rated and do they ever get to get out of there? They should you know, California did it. They did quite a few stages, you know, we we you know, we traveled around doing that. Yeah, yeah Got we got lawyers together And the lawyers would do all the paperwork For for people to get their cases expunged and and and so forth With the social equity with the social equity, uh, you know, I went all around the country talking about social equity Yeah, yeah, why? They couldn't exclude not only convicted fellas, but also blacks Yeah, all the Hispanics. Well, you know, all of these people play a part in This legalization of marijuana. That's something that so they also should Should be able to participate in the legal side of it because you know for a while the only people were getting the license was rich I know Of course, yeah, people didn't look like us And you know, that's the crazy boy like like at the end of the day that the game The all of the money all of the invested interest the way that the game was even rolled out was the cause of us Absolutely, it wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for us, right? And then now you say, oh, well, we don't but we don't want them to play part in any time they can They don't say that right. We're not gonna see it. They said all the licenses are 150 Go and sell it like that. That's how they say it all the half 50,000 You know who who black got 150,000? They know that they know to put it in a way that you it's hard to get to in Florida in Florida In order to get a license 23 million dollars, you have to have this thing They made it to where it's a high like you you're not going to be able to get that's the same what they do like then FL teams as well same thing To be on a book you what a team you play on the team, but you came your owner. Yeah That's why I ain't no fan. Yeah, and me neither. I mean look we sitting right here doing everything You know But you know the thing I look at like you one that you always try to get back I seen you mean you was at the at miss shot at the mama scott, you know, we got shot out I was But you coming down down down there man. She's so love man. She always do that though You know, we did the person like mama scott. You know, Joe not at all We did a fast bass and everything else down there where she lost a lot of money But she's the type of person. She don't stop giving you know, and I think that's live, you know And and for us to be able to come together, you know, they say that's like a boomerang It's like a boomerang. Yeah. Yeah You know the boomerang you throw it out come right back come right back So the same thing in life and one of the things that I learned because you know, I went into literary But I read over 300 books Before 300 I was going to ask you like which one was the most the one that impacted you the most Well, I would say three of my three favorite books. Y'all already know what them books is already. I shouldn't even have to tell you Y'all be slipping Some of y'all gotta hear one that's right Some gotta hear two some gotta hear ten Gotta hear the other time. That's right. And then there's another group we have it ain't never never get it So let's get it out Richest man in Babylon. Okay for y'all who like money Think and grow rich. Yeah, I like that For y'all who like to organize be smart And as a man think or as a woman think Well, y'all want to be strong after reading those books Which one was like when you started to play and even more when you read the book you like man This it made me think and I already was on this but I'm on it even more now All three of them are three of because when you read one when I read one I said, oh, I gotta go read that other one over again You know, I read them books like 25 times. Yeah, because you had time I had not a time And I had nothing else to do. I didn't want to watch no football and no back When I first started I was watching before that's how I did my time. Okay, football season basketball season Yo, yeah, yeah But then after I started reading Then I had time for no football basketball. All I want to do is read read read and I know now that Had somebody would explain to me at a young age that it was so much came in books. Yeah That I could get And a week would it took somebody 26 years or 30 years to live Man, I could get it in a week three days And it was going to show me how to be a better person how to get some money How to bend learn how to read wow and so you you one of these guys that I know you a thinker, right? looking at Say the cat Williams interview it did 50 something million views quick One of the second most viewed interviews on the internet Um, you know, I didn't hang out when I got home. What did it do? If anything, what impact did it have on? on entertainers entertain And I doubted for that any that's what I said You know, I I used to hang out at cat house when I first came home. So I've been hurt all that stuff Oh, oh, so it was just like a refund to you. I don't even never watch And you didn't know why I'm gonna watch in wow. So you're all I should be at the house with him, right? I I used to tell I should tell people all the time, you know, people I know I said boy if I ever had a camera and it gets up that shit cat be told mom So you knew it was people will watch it Yeah They think cat funny on stage Oh the conversation is even funny One on one with it every day. I should drive the Calabasas every single day This is when he was retired because I was I wanted to be his manager So you heard these cops I'm trying to get out like on the stage like cat. Well, I'm real cat So to see I mean, it's a lot of people I've said I interview all these comedians and they gonna Did you ever think comedians go back and you know, like you did you Spurt your I have we did it in Austin, but we I know that you know, I was living it. I don't you know, how cookie No, it was cookie was living in the house What is she the shit Los Angeles? I said, yeah, she's in Atlanta said I'm going to Atlanta, but I'm going to Vegas I'll get you cookie. No, I need to I need to link up with I won't hear these two Yeah, yeah, because they really they really they're like cookie can tell the cookie Cookie got some shit to tell Like I mean the comedians are going crazy on this island that bad. They just every one of them is I mean, you got to think about it. Even they wrap all this stuff is competitive. Yeah. Oh, absolutely people compete Well, life is competitive life. This is gonna be competitive too. They better You will try to knock their sides off They're bad outside. You're gonna put you open black out. It's teaching me how to do the jab You're you know, the jab is what is the jab is the setup shot Oh, your job ain't gonna real knock it There a few people get knocked out with the jab the jab is just to set you up to set you up and What I'm doing right now is I'm setting them up and sometimes they use the jab as an illusion Like wow, I'll get you with it But they ain't really gonna get you with it Well, even that you make you think they're gonna get you with it You know, you keep talking about boxing and I got to step again to I didn't never get to talk to you about that fight with terrace crawford and earl spence And you're talking about the jab he never established a jab or anything with Crawford and that's his strong point What what role or what did you see in that fight? Well, you see a superior a superior guy Did he look like that but you've seen Right before crawford is a superior guy. He's a different. He's a different person You know, I've been down in and oh my you're really honest a lot I know you have with his homies And and you know, I listened to him talk and they the guy's different, you know the guy don't party drink He wrestles he skates Now we take space on the other hand, that's having a great time Dallas cowboys City lights drunk city lights rick and the ferrari. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, it went crazy that that that stuff take a toll On you when when you got a person who is totally committed You know croc, but it's totally committed. Yeah And you know, I can't wait to see this fight with uh, um Uh, canelo I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm betting on that fight. I should have bet who fight Yeah, he's gonna fight canelo. Yeah, they couldn't lock it in Who you got? I'm gonna put 10,000 on court. I don't get it. We eat. Yep I don't get it right, but this one you My guys totally they call They call the rongos here tankard. Wow Really they told me And this is because you know I mess with all the coaches now. You know, yeah, I'm gonna miss to get the coaches now Yeah, okay. I can't talk to the fighters, but I can handle the coaches. Yeah, you know, that would be So I talked to the coaches. They've been telling me Wow So they feel like They told me they're gonna be a knockout They told me that it was going on on the wall with was with with spit They told me they said Smith's ain't gonna make it. They knew they knew Anthony Peterson, you know, I managed Anthony Peterson. He told me he said man But I don't gamble when I tell my friends what the better the better on this Oh, man, you gotta give me So this next one I'm going they already said man if he fight I know why I'm gonna see now is gonna fight Uh, uh, Devin Haney. It just announced that well, you know, I was I was just with Bill Yeah, I got him when I get the baby. So you're gonna be ill. Yeah. Yeah, we were doing it. We did the after we were just with Bill What was that? That was just a few days ago when I talked to you Where's there? Where's that? Yeah, yeah, we was with Bill. So what do you think about the fight? I'm taking Devin. You taking Devin. Yeah, I'm taking Devin Garcia is the he's an internet guy. He's he's he's I haven't looked at so strong He did that last fight against riggs pro-rate. Yeah, that uh I don't think nobody that 140 want to mess with him. Nobody What what what okay? Where's take it? Take 135 You know the part of they having with that fight is Tank 135 Devin 140 now So They want Devin to come down Devin to won't take to come up Do you think it happened? Will that fight ever happen? No right now. I don't think the money is it's strong enough. I think after this uh Ryan Garcia and the tank card, you know, they make that they make that money Um, and then they may uh go with the tank with the tank situation What okay, and you know, I always go back to kid austin and you told me he was good and who are you looking at now? What are you doing with with with who you who are you working with? Well Right now, you know, I got 20 eyes the okay a glass spider. I ever had that Okay, that was an immature background. He was a bronze medalist in the olympics. Okay. Um, I got another kid uh, jayson Moreno, he made his debut Uh, saty in philadelphia. I got another kid that i'm working with called kraken out of uh, alabama uh Albert vermere out of new orleans Uh, another kid out of lafayette, louisiana made him at the nationals keith Uh, we we don't have a deal yet, but he's going to let me help him negotiate his deals Uh, he's talking to all the top promoters. Who else i'm on right now? A couple of the kids i'm on That I just can't thank her right now, you know, there's so much stuff in my head right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah I feel yeah, we've been the cast to start casting the film We're really casting my movie you for y'all you're gonna go you they feel like a ass Finally, so you finally going to get it that nobody going to try to steal it Listen, me and you don't sit down a few time every time you start doing something Somebody try to take it somebody try to figure out a way to stop it What is this going to happen? No, this is this is this going to happen. Okay, we've been we've been building this for but Me and me and uh me and jeno been working on this film Um, because you know the hues brothers was going to do my movie when I left. Yeah, yeah, so You know there's a reason I didn't do the movie with the universal music. Yeah, universal movies Because I didn't like the contract and You know, they told me I had a soundtrack then after we got assigned a contract. It wasn't any, you know It wasn't in the contract. I had a the soundtrack. I say So me and jeno been working that long since like 95 Wow, we've been trying to put this together. We done been through a lot. So Uh, I got a text the other day and they said they needed a headshot for all the producers, uh Whatever the paperwork call. I can't think of it right now And all your boxes if I didn't call your name Oh, I really we're going back to me Give him a bag give me the bag like I do we only need to oh, you know, it's too old man. Uh But they called me and asked me for the headshot for that paperwork. And this is my movie. So yeah, yeah Yeah, this is your movie like like that's so much stuff going on But you got to think about it man like like to do a more How hard is the the casting calling getting the people you want in place to do the movie? Well, you know what I want to do I want to get some, you know, I told him from the beginning I want to get some new people shot. So I want to go to We want to do a casting call here. I want to one in Atlanta I wanted to either Houston Dallas and probably Chicago. Wow. I want to do castle and anyone. So you want a variety? Yeah, I'm gonna people or you know, I want I don't want to be like the gatekeepers, you know, we got Yeah, yeah, oh man, you know, and they're like, you know, like cat said, they don't want to let nobody else see it Wait a minute. Don't play cat. I'm doing what about this dress thing? Does the dress thing? Do you think in acting does that de-masculate the you know, it masculate the black man? I wouldn't win on dress But it's a bunch of them that have that do have credibility and say that it's a art You see what I'm saying? I mean, it could be but you know, it's certain You don't see Denzel, Samuel Jackson and the three amigos. It was one more But it's it's a few of them. There's not putting on that dress. You don't even have to worry about that but It's some of them that do and some of them Talipair, you know, I don't knock nobody for what they do. You're right. I do it if you like Man or man and you know, you women or women. I've had your back I'm a crew with that. But everybody that's doing the acting boy not into that. I don't know I don't care. I get it. I get it. I'm just saying me I'm saying he would never do it in an actor like I always want to be able to do it Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, they don't know. I mean, they can say, oh, you can't go to It goes out and come come into the look because that's I like to be over there He said what I like now, whatever you like is what you like and I ain't got no problem with what you like No, I 100% agree. So if you want to wear a dress in the movie and act like a woman, okay, go ahead And that's what it takes for you to get some money to get some I like to get my money with my mind That's real. I like that. That's real. That's real I I want to take it back to these sexes one time though like For you going home when you go home now, like that's a long time ago hold 12 years old you left No, I left the technology three. I thought you left him 12 No, three or four. Did you go back because you told me you all I won't work I'll go back all the time. No, I'm saying well when you went when you was all in basically every summer That's why that's what it was. That is that's how I get some money See, you put it back in my head again Hey, you know, I don't fuck with that. That is me out of no doubt. Fuck what I'm doing When you went back, do you have you still got so your family love some of most of my family members down there? Well, you know my mom had 24 brothers and sisters. God dog, man. My mom too. We did it all over the Y'all everywhere. We everywhere. I'm gonna understand. You know, just you know, I got a big big family out here My mom probably had about seven brothers and sisters that stayed in california when I got here Wow, got here. Wow. So y'all just Just pretty much packed up and moved and you talk about I got cousins That was 30 years older than me. Yeah. Yeah. So they got kids. They got kids. They got kids So, you know, the family is is ginormous One of the things that that I hope to do one day, you know, when I become like these these these weed magazines is predicting When I become this multi-billionaire. Yeah, you told me you was going that way Well, that's what these and I need to tell these magazines that you told me I knew you but you know, I ain't telling you didn't tell you don't have to tell me No, no, no, no, no, but I'm just saying they know the potential and what you've done and who you are Are you coming into that? You know what she said? Yeah No, when I had my grand opening she walked up to me and she shook her head and she was like Man It's up I said, what? She said you and this together Two billion Easy The brand just the branding part is is is massive There's so many things you can do with that Because of who you are and what you've been through. Yeah. Yeah, you got that leverage on them. Nobody else could do that Nobody else has done what you don't and and I have fun doing it That's real. I just like this shit. I know but let me go back to your family Right quick when you moved up here when things start rolling in the if you know back in the day when you win When the drugs and all that stuff Frank Lucas on the movie shows that he brought his family up. I enjoy it. I remember double kind of I went I imported three, you know, you you you you know You got no talent. Yeah, if I had cousins that used all that pugwood with me I saw on the on that pugwood I got wouldn't doing that. You know what I'm saying? They pick it up and But but sticks, you know I said boy, he might get him at the right spot. No win. No shrews. None of that Man Rick, man. I like to say every time I come out here. I'll just be happy to set up talk with you, man It just it's just a blessing man that that so let's talk about like like All the business ventures that you've been dealing with since you've been, you know Out here moving and shaking man. You've done books. You've done you stuff been stowed for me a lot of stuff a lot of stuff But but just I feel a smile like but that because you you continue to keep going you continue to keep Stop I'm having I think that's the most important part. You don't lose unless you do what? Quit so that's the difference say the champ is still the champ knows to get up off the carpet. That's right. That's so true So, yeah, that's the part where I look at you and be like man Like like this dude right here. They it's a problem as you are here during Oh, no, they really got what happened other people No, they really got fond of now though because not only I got the weed. I got the boxing Now I got the clothes manufacturer. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna get into that. I got I got my man tim who just like Took me and it breaks me and then we knew each other from the 80. Wow. Well, we had prior experience You know, you know when I got that when I got that hookup because you know my t-shirt Yeah, we brought some not a rapper, you know, I'm But I ain't gonna say no numbers because I got that t-shirt Yeah, let's go check No, but I'm the t-shirt dope like how much time do you do your best time into the design? Do you even or somebody somebody else design? I knew you better say that Yeah Do you let people who's in here, you know somebody else design when you seen it do you like, okay? Let me feel the quality of it. It's a nice shirt Oh the quality of the shirt gotta be nice one thing one thing I learned from selling drugs The quality Gotta be good. They want the best quality they can get At the lowest price they can get wow So when I tell people all the time when quality and price hit You gotta hit you gotta hit you gotta hit man Like I said, man, I remember seeing you at use that magic I've seen you walk them floors when you're giving your book out like you've done a lot of stuff to show Hey, I'm here and it's fit to be serious man on the business here. Oh, that's a boy and I was doing that with no money Yeah, I know what you're stealing. I don't know money. Yeah, but so that's how I was gonna stop and out money Or this going down They call no money. They predicted everybody They predicted in my my description is going to do 100,000 a day. Oh 100,000 a day, that's what they predicted And that's gonna be for me. That's gonna be disposable income. No, my kids. I don't want my kids to get no more shoes My kids got two mini shoes They got iPad, iPhone and a computer You know my make products So we good So this 100,000 dollars is going to be disposable income. Wow Yeah, and I can't be like a lot of our people who get money You know, I got mine. You get you a no, no, no, no, no this money should be spread it out. Wow over the hoods That's real. That's where people can touch it. They can take it. They can invest it They can fuck it up if they want. Yeah. Yeah, okay. You take you as your favorite out. That's on you Yeah, come back. Wow So that's the way I plan on using mine and also to expand the business Yeah, yeah because expanding the business mean that You know now you're 100,000 now you're at 125,000 now you're at 150,000 now you're at 200,000 I mean, you know, that's how I went from 125 dollars selling cocaine To making three million dollars a day because every day I put it back to expand the business to make the business grow To the point to where to the point where I was doing three million dollars in one day Three million dollars in a day or something else. I just don't see how you mentally would be able to keep up with that I've heard that story. I've seen you tell that story and I'm like, how did this what you just enjoy yourself But you You know, let's see there's like no, you know, sorry bro steel. Let him steal a little bit Then I'm stealing that something The rapper star went there. He needed that. Yeah, I know what a million in the industry if he wouldn't have stolen that Let him have that Jara singleton needed to steal a movie And john polly because I really feel like john really liked me. He looked up to me. Let's say I went out and talked about it Well, I and you know what I figured happened john took the show To fx And he said I got the real rigged walls move on do his movie and fx. Oh, we don't want to deal with that gangster We don't want to do with the real one We like these guys who just say that Ever did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's you and you and rigged walls No, you've never seen him at have y'all ever talked we talked several times Have y'all ever faced a face not facing me. No, you don't want to talk He's he never wanted to be in the same room with you. No, and I you know with all that money That's what that's the drill if he if it's really his money in my if it's really is my view prop We didn't think I could die with that It might be like a guy playing in gay. What you really ain't gay You know what we say, what do you think and you just said that yeah, you say some of them really ain't gay They just put on the dress and act gay. That's it So he might be playing like he rich, but he really ain't rich They different that's around But what why do you think he would not want to be in the same room? I mean if you put The real you take two Nike tennis shoes who am adjardins everybody love them They love them. They spend their last dollar on the pair adjardins. Yeah, but the fake adjardin and the real adjardin on the table And which one give me value. Yeah, that that that one this fake gonna be Yeah, no the kids don't want the fake Oh, you probably never been in real with y'all never do business y'all would never we can never do business What's gonna probably happen is it's gonna get As I get so big People gonna start saying man, you are fake You got to go down in history as the fake Rick Ross You know, that's gonna be his model is when the history is written But you know, we write history right now. Yeah, we make it. We make a history So when they go down in history, he's go down in history as the fake Rick Ross the guy who stole the real Rick Ross is wow Yeah, and that's yeah, because you are freeway Ricky Ross who pretty much the only way he could change that is change his name And build it all over you That's not gonna happen That's the only way you don't go down in history as the fake Rick Ross When the history books is written and the history books are definitely gonna be written He's gonna go down in history as the fake Rick Ross the guy who stole the real Rick Ross his name Wow Wow, and he and and then all the other stuff that he came into contact with the See y'all. Well, no, no, you didn't matter. That's gonna be over. Yeah, I mean because of y'alls success Exactly You're exactly right. I even think about that. Nobody cares about the other boy. They're just looking at the success Yeah, when they start reading the history books and and going through the books and and and the future kids It's gonna be like, oh, he tricked the all night people Me and Rick Ross man god Oh, because when I first heard like I said, I didn't even think about it But when you came on it became very prevalent of what happened, you know people start reckoning. I'm like dang man Free way out. You free way out. What's gonna have people What's gonna happen when there's 30 thousand or 30 million dollar movie hit the hit the screen and advertisement is all over And and and not anybody else is gonna call me You know, she she's gonna find it. I need to talk to you. Say I need to talk to it That is so true. Like it the way the bigger you almost tell how much money you guys Man, you didn't want to talk to me when I had that And we were like Mike Jones Shout out Mike Jones, man. Huh, man. Thank you so much and like me now y'all So just again man, I want to go back into the stressors a little bit. Give me a more Just give me a little bit more detail like for guys who don't understand How they are able to get into the business. I can I can I can do that. Yeah What we did is is we started a trend out here in california called social equity. Okay social equity As you know, we never got our 40 acres in the muke level So so they came up with the idea Is why not Give something back For slavery. Wow So, you know, you can't go in there if supreme court said you can't use black as a Reason to discriminate no more Well, you know, you can't get in college Get special treatment in college because you're black. No, that's over. We shut that down. Yeah I think it was affirmative action or something like that So what we did is We came up with the idea What about people who were targeted By the war on drugs Because you know, the war on drugs was targeted on black and hispanic people Facts no, that's big facts facts That the numbers don't like the numbers don't lie. So what we said since they illegally targeted These communities why not allow these communities to benefit Now from the drab that you used to target them for it. It is not legal. Wow So if you are a convicted felon And and most states Beside child molestation and on bribery You good Yeah them two days, they don't want them to in there and I don't blame them. No, I get it. I don't like them to me So but but that that then you guys had to add on to even go that far to keep going pushing When did you guys start the venture because you gotta think about it? You've been home now. How long have you been home? I've been home 14 years 14 years. You were about fast It went by fast. What what when did you guys start the venture to get that to make that happen? We started I didn't start it I heard about with all that and I joined did they had already started a movement And when I heard about I just joined in with them. Wow, you know with the move how long was you on that movement with them Five years ago five years ago. Yes, that's a lot of time, man Yeah, because to see it through I wonder how long did it take them that when they started how long did Right around the same time same time when they start they started maybe weeks or months before I heard about it Wow, because I was with the little clicking You know going to city all trying to get it all figured out and making sure that I could get a license So he was he was like I'm on this like I'm really into this and you know what else we doing too I mean my man tim we're giving It's kind of like I guess you heard about what they do what they'll do football players How they getting these in our t-deals they've been yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Well, we're going to be giving those same type of deals out Well, if you're in high school, you're a great football player Well, we're going to do all your merchandise for you. We'll create your merchandise help you create your company That's right, and then put your stuff out for you So you can make some money while you're still in high school. Why are you in college? Wow tennis players basketball players Rappers we don't care who you are. We want to help you Hold your stuff now with you know a lot of these guys, you know, they they they go do these deals and And then they'll get no money out of that's real. That's real, you know, this way you on your side of yeah Why not on your like with me? I don't mind. Yeah, you know, don't nobody tell me what I can put out when I can put Out of put out when I want to so we often those deals too I gotta ask you about the clothes like the dispensary name the brand How are you guys branding that I know you you you do this ring Yeah, I don't know. I mean with the just the logo the brand putting all things out there because that's you That's gonna sell Well, well, yeah, we we do see what I'm saying that doing the brand we doing the brand for the for the dispensary Um One of the guys came up with the name, you know, you name it after yourself freeway ricks That's that's it. Yeah, but it was ass. Yeah possession, you know with the s at the end, you know I mean that yeah, you possess it. So, uh any symbol any logo? Oh, yeah, we got a logo You would see the sign the sign. Yeah, I'll put it with the only sign. We had a big Like and see you don't say I can't but you then did you design the logo? No, why did you know? You're probably it. Yeah, of course They were talking to me. What made you did you pick just from that one because it looked like squad face Hey, I remember me and my boys first when the white squad face, right? Yeah And when we left by the day they all start coming you you squad face you the real star base when y'all seen the morning Yeah, so new jack city scar phases is scar face for you That's what they call me on you know, I'm just saying the new you had new jack city Uh, that was in the 80s. You all this time was cool. It was there. Which one but that was in the 80 88 89, right New jack city went with me. Which one went to scar face come on scar face came out in the early 80s So it was before that that's why you marinated to that more Yeah, well, you know, you know really who I wanted to be with super blot. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to carry that with the big man, that's But you're not even a showing guy so I can't even see you even I wanted to be like that dog when I was like 14 when I went and go to see me. He took me to see super I was like 14 15. I don't even know if I should have been watching that honey, right? Yeah Man and and what I found out too is that movie planning to see In my head. Yeah cocaine Yeah, yeah, see that movie could really really That movie could be the reason that I started selling cocaine Really? I was in love with that. I was in love with with my man I put all the ash to the to the side while Why the ash was my man? I was trying to think of but it's the same thing that's the same thing I used to tell when I was interviewing you know the book that he used to read But it was it was about the guy iceberg slim. You see what I'm saying? So it's like And I read I bring it up like it's this something else because he came from jersey I from new york or jersey came up here And then you came for you know from somewhere else and came to la la a lot of people was moving to la back in the day My uncle my uncle was all over the city. That's a this is this was was supposed to be nest racism um Now somebody told me one time in california never had slaves. I don't know about that That's what I heard somebody said that one time that they never had slaves So my mom was looking to get out of that Because you know texas was the last one to bring the slaves. You know what you're on team and and and uh, um They still have black and white bathrooms in texas When I was about seven Wow Well, she was trying to get us away from that. She didn't want us to grow up. She must have knew I was a fool All right, no I'm gonna get killed That would be up and you know, I didn't go to texas and started selling dope to late late in the game Yeah, I was and you went back. You went back to texas. I'm the cousins was down there. Sorry What to do with my cousin? Oh, man to put him down. I'm gonna need to like they let me all prog with it Man There's something going on now. They said I have yet Can you play with keel off me? And they really with it. They really with it We're up down there. You know like we're cousins. They they they used to run down there They were all over the east texas side, right? Yeah, all these texas dallas dallas And and and that's what I'm saying, man Like but you to still be here today telling these stories man. Some of them dudes a lot of people didn't make it through Oh, no But you see you know what and and and I kind of you know, I Move pat myself on the back most of my guy. I only lost a couple guys in in the game Wow, I only lost about three dudes and some of them Went outside the game and started doing you know, like one of my little dudes start robbing Wow, you know, which was turning against What I stood for yeah, you wasn't even with no he but he stepped outside And he saw another rim that he thought he could yeah, you know, okay. I can double dip You know and and you didn't work out for no it didn't work out for him So saying that that like most of my core guys is still here today and that's good, man That's good because like I said, a lot of people didn't make it through Hey, but for us to see I'll be sitting here after going through all the stuff the challenges, man Just dope man. I want to say man. Thank you man for coming on boss talk Thank you man. Always always every time I come to LA or if you come to Dallas because you ain't been back When you met years ago, you said when you was coming to Dallas, you still haven't been by my hub site You know what I'm saying and you know, that's how much that's how I legalize jet. That's all This time I come to this is when you guys you come back next time I come to Dallas. I'm gonna make show But when I come there, I'll be so they be pulling me. Yeah, I know I know but but do you think because I don't come near that much this Texas gonna legalize this They're working on it right now. I know but it gotta help We gotta get them boys out and they're down there with them doing them doing illegal dispensaries. They kicking right now And you gotta figure Texas got to catch on in like Oklahoma taking you more. Yeah, Oklahoma going in. Louisiana takes Alabama going in Alabama everybody going down Alabama went live So everybody getting to the money Texas again. I just like what it's only by the likes likes is Last words In the United States, you know, you have that say man. You got your Indiana. They still try to hold on They hold it on. Wow man. Thank you for coming on the show man. Again. You said you say much man. Uh-oh Okay, being that you're on a dispensary now you have people out here who don't have license Who just out here selling, you know, whatever is that something? How do they look at that now with these been this being a league at California being a place of legalization? Well, first of all, they're not gonna incarcerate that way out of Okay, okay, I get that you can't you can't get The incarceration is not going to stop anybody from Southern marijuana Yeah, and then like when it was turning legal, right, it's not going to work while it's halfway legal We have to find a way to incorporate Them into the business where they could start to make some money from the legal business and what they've been doing is they've been shutting out The people who don't have a certain amount of money. So, you know when When I get the power, I'll be trying to incorporate with people who Are selling on the street can get into the business and still make some money. It's all about educating With everything I mean without education. You can make money. It's all about educating them if they get that education Then they'll be able to not have to Pedal it try to figure out a way to get you know I'm going to ask you I gotta ask you this too because I ain't never seen a like this I went to a restaurant here the other night. They were giving away free marijuana, bro What the hell is that not? No, it wasn't at the restaurant. It was just walking down the aisle I'm getting ready to go to the restaurant. Hey, man, you want this right? They give it up. They got packages. They got names on it. What the hell is that? Well, they probably promote their brand, you know, you can just name it away It's a glut of marijuana right now marijuana has went from When I started selling marijuana on the black market, I was spent $2,800 a pound right now and you can buy a pound of marijuana for $800 That's probably what I thought it was about $800 Yeah, you can get a pound of marijuana for $800 So they they they out here trying to get to the price of the price of marijuana is down We're just taking a beating right now And we got the names on it. So I guess they're doing that so you can go to their dispensary It's got the name on when you want another when you like it, then you buy that brand That's that's what they're doing. Yeah, that makes sense. So because you got people out of even that restaurant's a mall They give yourself a little food. It's the same thing really. I didn't think about that. But I don't know if I smoke you It's hard to understand. It gotta be a hell of a brand You know, I'm saying like you but the brand got you gotta know like this is the Right. Well, yeah, man. Why would I open this up? So, I don't know And and and and that and that's going to be one of the things too when people Um Get to the point to where they're not going to want to smoke none of that they don't trust That's it And that's where the brands are going to come in man freeway again, man Thank you for coming on boss talk one on one man How can people get a whole day if they try to rock out with you you give me a freeway ricky ross on Facebook we were rick on instagram You can order the shirt we got the shirts, man You got a you got the shirts right here. Come on now. Go get them a man. Listen, man Freeway was the realest one man. Like I said man to see what he's done Unbelievable man, and he's a he's boss talk one on one. Watch it. I'm a root every day. Don't watch what I do I watch it. I don't do Man, what am I going to say when the boss talk one on one? What a boss is talking