 Hei hei, and good morning. Thank you for staying with us. This is Y25 for breakfast show time for career segment. I'm speaking to many more things, such as engineer and mic mode. Tuneitio legion and also an artist. My name is Dereva Hillary. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Buna kwa tukuku kwa Y25 for TV. We speak to the young people and especially when it's time for career is where we try to shift their thinking, maybe develop them or improve what they think, and especially when it comes to opportunities out here, and I want to begin with you Muses. As a software engineer, how did you land yourself here? I wanted to be here. So growing up, I think for IT, electronics. Initially I wanted to become an engineer. I had that passion every night to be one. At the University of Nairobi, but then again something happened and I got I got an application for mathematics and computer science. My dad pushed me to do that by the end of 2015. So that's how I got myself in there. I'm bringing my master's in software logistics and different things. Well, you just mentioned of one thing, you just mentioned of your father who pushed you to do what you do today. Now, looking back into time, and maybe you were rich, or you credit your father for what he did, or it was still in you? Definitely I credit him because again, from where I come from, say that, Gali comes from flower. So I believe my dad saw something in me that I could do in 90s. That is something that I should give credit to. Wow. Now, Mike, as an artist, how did you find yourself as an artist? Is this something you had been born? You were pushed by your parents. Okay. I think for me it's a very interesting journey because when I was young, I used to sing but looking at life, I never took music previously. You know, how people treat talent. People are like, you should do some other different stuff. I didn't want to know the idea. So I finished my high school and was going to get into an engineering school. But deep within I started feeling that I should go to a Bible school. So I went into a Bible school. Definitely the dream to become a preacher. But now my being a preacher evolved into using music to reach out to people. Wow. So through music I founded a movement, a youth movement called Street Praise International. We started like three years ago. It's now in two countries. Kenya and Uganda. Swaziland, they are also starting. We just meet in the open. We sing almost. We worship. We praise in the streets. And people come and we share the word of God with them. You too have mentioned something interesting when it comes to career choice and what you have chosen to be. And we have this kind of parents who are like ah, usani, apana. Kitambu, here you know kora, you know. You want to be a DJ, you know DJ to a club you know, and a parent can't imagine the kids becoming DJs, you know, that kind of a thing. Now this is the path that you chose and you're there. What is the notion? What is the comment? What comments come from people and especially your parents when they are like Whom say hangi kwa engineer, maybe hangi kwa better engineer. Yeah, actually at first my parents thought I've wasted my life when I took that path but with time they were appreciated. They were appreciated. No wing on Ezop elika says that. Now Moses, you have chosen this path to engineer and you're planning even to upgrade the lessons now. Noting the opportunities out there and grabbing them is always difficult to some individuals. How have you planned yourself that maybe by this time I would have done this by that time I would have achieved that and what strategies have you put in place? Number one being a software developer it's always getting innovative ways of doing things. We are live on camera because of a computer software somewhere making all these cameras work and coordinate. So for me I have been doing a payroll system for the past 20, for the past 2 years and also the CEO of filamu is a platform like Netflix or showmax in the legs where you can watch your favorite movies and TV shows. So that is the current project that I'm holding right now and it's doing something great but until maybe in the next 2 years I want to be done with my studies in the masters then probably do a PhD later on and so on and so forth. So there are strategies as to how I want to evolve. All right. Mike you identified a niche in the art industry and you chose, you have even come up with your own just like Moses here with his innovation you have come up with a team. This team that you're planning to expand so maybe the whole world when a chance what plans have you in mind that I know there's a chance Namishaipata, Oshansabuka say them in kakati to ensure that maybe your plan has come true. What could be the thing that you have planned on? First I'm a recording artist so one thing is about music if you create good content you are able to reach a lot of people the first thing I always tell people don't think about the money you will get about music think about the impact what you're singing has what you sing or what you say or the message that you are passing across has then when you work on that the rest of the things will just roll in slowly by slowly. All right. I have to challenge you on this you realize there are millions and millions of artists out here what makes or what will make you stand out amongst them all. Wow. That's a good one. Actually that is a one, a very good question. When it comes to art or music the thing that makes you stand out is building original content and your style if what you build you just copy from other people you listen to someone's song then you just twist it and then you create your own song then it doesn't work like that but when you're original you will just be yourself So that basically means it has to be a gift and a talent at the same time you can sing and of course you can write your own music and maybe define your own tunes All right. What is identifying skills like you just mentioned of computers and all that people go to school like you have mentioned during school you are taught how to do this and that and how to maybe but when it comes to innovation it's basically Now imagine a situation where someone they are good in what they have been told Yoretically they are okay but when it comes to technical works and practicals they are not there How do you help these people? I believe in this case in IT we have a lot of things to do there is software there is hardware there are all these things where you can do and put your innovations in I had a taste in most of these different places of doing innovations I worked in the hardware sector I worked in the network sector the center sector I also worked now in software the reason why I have chosen software again is because of the passion after checking all those things everywhere where do I feel most comfortable and that's why you get your plan that is how I believe my God Alright I want just to begin with you through the innovations that you people managed to come up with the laws of Kenya are there policies that protect you people and if they are there are they at the edge too? now the laws of Kenya are good but in IT they develop break area so for an example if any you see it's like let's take an instance of you remember when Uri was saying people should declare their wealth but there was no framework towards that that is something we can call upgrade area in what we are calling the digital tax which will be implemented from January next year there are a lot of things that people do online to selling the buying and it is untaxed that is a great area as well now it's when the government is realising that there is so much work that is going on online and they are creating those mikakati to try and put revelations towards some of these things the mikakati which deals with how much money maybe you can sell out and all these things so kuna mikakati but then again there are some places where they are paying us wow I know you have to agree with me in the music industry kuna lozi zemo apini hekibao and what you do is changed okay one thing that affects us like for me for street praise is the issuance of permits right nowadays for you to get the permit to do an event an outdoor event is very complicated especially with the covid even without the covid the police are really against public gatherings very much against actually if it is a church public outdoor gathering and we need to do those concerts out there so they will just complicated a lot of things about giving you the permits so you are saying if it's a secular world they easily allow but when it comes to church if it is safariko they will tell you we don't give permits and tomorrow you will find safariko giving an event at archives so you will wonder which procedure was used because they say we don't we are not going to do an event because there is terrorist threats or right now covid now they are saying covid before covid they were saying terrorism but you will still find safariko and other big corporates doing events gathering people even politicians so you will wonder why are they denying us the permits to do those things now that you are mentioning the challenges have you maybe tried to work with church leadership in the country there are cancels have you tried to work with them to see how easy it can be for you to have a gathering like we have the NCCK I know they are for big churches some would say that we have other churches of course they have their own cancels they push the government to allow them to do some things in there have you maybe with your own team or maybe through your church have you tried to use them but the idea of like what we do street praise going out to the street and to do a concert in the street it's a new idea most of these churches are happy with people inside the church so when you go to them they have an idea of doing an outside thing for young people they are it's not it's not familiar how about kutumiya halls because I know they are social halls especially here in Nairobi have you tried to use their social halls we do concerts, we do a lot of indoor stuff so how to do your attack you could say and actually we are not doing crusades we are doing music concerts and outside the results are really good okay what would you say are some of the challenges that you have faced in this particular industry one thing Kenyans have still not yet acknowledged that we will come up with it there are still some of the things very good solutions in the country very good guarantee that much but it hasn't been appreciated by the people when it gets a good product which is acceptable in the country by the country I would say we have stepped forward what we want to come up with at the western side unfortunately truly yeah I want to get maybe a specific challenge you faced with your innovation how is the reception out here and maybe what have you planned on to improve if you have received comments from the same now for those who have actually subscribed and watched the platform they love it I can guarantee that much they continue giving and encouraging me personally writing to me text and calling even for outdoor events and we just talk about their content looking for new ways every day to make it better the reception to those who have actually built the platform is superb kabla utwe you can make it better but when you comparison with other platforms utawana where there is a difference I have to mention this platform like the Netflix showmax and here locally I know there is views so how is the ground for you it is looking quite nice there is a lot of potential in kenyans what we want to do with the penetration of internet ina make it the solution is supposed to make Kenyan life at least a bit easier but here you can the platform at a very high level so I can guarantee you something nice is coming alright Mike you have come up with your own team and it is spreading across the world what are some of the challenges you went through or you are going through and have you thought of any remedy to the problem ok somehow when you go to sing in the street many people don't sometimes they don't know what you are singing and so we end up singing the normal normal songs but from next year we are going to we will work out and do choirs and bring in a lot more guys do a different land of staff when you say normal songs are you saying the songs that we sing from abroad we have the real songs and then we have the culture or the music which normal songs ok and again our movement is like it's it's not a profit making organization so we are trusting God to get people who can support us to do what we are doing because I wanted to ask that if I know I can sing and then I come thank you for coming as a young person I'm like the whole day so what we do we only sing in the evening from 6 to 7 Fridays that can come so we allow you to work during the day and we meet in the evening maybe you can meet earlier for rehearsals but again we are that place whereby we meet partners people to come alright when people come now that you yourself you sing when people come do you identify within there and maybe you do collabo with them or bring them to you have you done music with them people have identified when people come we identify their gifts we give them a chance to do their thing and stuff happens again we also do charity work we feed people in the street like we feed every Friday we feed people in town when we meet alright maybe as we conclude in terms of mentorship moses and trying to gain more knowledge than from school how do you indulge yourself away from books now you in the field and not relying on your own knowledge now that you have acquired some how have you created your network I have good good circle of people because for everyone who I believe is watching me right now someone who has given me an advice I am a very thin not a such a word I listen and I act towards of lands my greatest mentor being my dad can guarantee you that listening to the elder people from our place again they say I am a child of a tree she is something close but what a father or a mose can see and see he is seated down so I believe in a circle of young and older people right but how did you get to choose them because I know this is a big problem to many people it's all about it's gigo garbage in garbage out like I said kuskiza na daskiza now how I act to the way kuskiza if it is good for me then I take it if it is not good for me then I use it just a way of life then it's good alright and finally Mike where do you draw your strength from okay I have people I look up to yeah I have Minstas music people who create music I look up to and music basically you can never sing beyond what you have had so you make sure you are getting swallowing in good content and good stuff so as to be able to to produce to produce good but I would like to say something outside what about outside music because this is a career talk I would like to challenge our young people to embrace creativity creative thinking or progressive thinking because that's where the developed nations began from people started imagining things the world we have today the industrialized world we have today was an imagination it was a thought so I would like to challenge people to start seeing and visualizing and seeing things that are not there because in the future those things will become a reality and also for our leaders to support our young people in whatever things well fair enough I need not to add anything you have had they have been my guest Moses Monene he is a software engineer and Mike Motune the religion and of course an artist and that has been a career segment that is staying with us now tomorrow Y-254 TV will be giving will be awarding the winner of Christmas activation with 2005 can you see me more Bandos color 2500 gift hampaz and the question we were asking is we name all drama programs airing on Y-254 currently the question again was name all drama programs airing on Y-254 currently and yes stay tuned you see who has won and if you have been a loyal Y-254 TV you should be knowing all these things I want to appreciate you for having a good follower for winners for the rest of 2020 amid COVID-19 pandemic and since this is 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