 Why 254, imagine? Polesana kwa that's the technical issue, but we are back and I want to give it back to Enok as I mentioned to you. Enok is the young son to our guest of honor today, Brenda Betty Kiema, and he is called Enok Kimel. So that's a bit of a tongue twister there. But Enok I think he's ready now. So Enok, you know 90% of these guys can play the piano. They can't even in the north. Yeah, they can't even in the north. Enok, you can play the piano by there here. Let me see. 100% 100% All of them. Oh mama mia. You can't play like that. Tu kwengi, tu kwengi kwae story. Enok, Enok, you are way ahead of us. You said how young is he? Enok is 10 years. 10 years. He started playing at around 7. 7 years. Wow, so the last 3 years. Yes. So what is he? He's in Sanadi 4. San 4. He's really nice. By the time he reaches some of Aiji, I'm sure he'll be an orchestra pianist. Now before I take two questions from our audience. Yes. Maybe I'm sure there are many times people with disability because of the rejection they experience or because of simply having the disability they tend to also hate themselves if you want to say. What do you say to a person like that? They do not hate themselves. They just need to do an inner search. What are you good at? Pasu that one. Out there, they are good people. Who will hold your hand and help you to discover your potential, your capabilities and others they will push you towards that. Towards that goal. Yes. You have been blessed in many ways to have people who have come into your path. After 10 years of doing nothing you said of simply sleeping and hating yourself or just hating life and contemplating suicide. After 10 years you decided to live as you said and people came in your way to help you. Are there some people maybe who are watching and would like to say thank you to? I'm not sure whether this man is watching but Father Francesco Pierli of Comboni Missionaries he discovered that in fact he is the one who told me young lady you are bright and I will support you in your education. You just need to go back to school. After form 4? No, after diploma. After diploma? Yes. So he is one who took you to degree? So he took me through beer and he took me through masters. Masters. We thank God for him. Wow, awesome. Now I'm going to take two questions and we have a gentleman here. This gentleman here. Yes. I won't say much about him but he is a very good young man and he is sitting between... All right, go ahead. My name is Nikola Skioko. Maybe we have that person who is out there. Hold up the mic. Maybe we have that one person out there who is being discriminated maybe because of disability. So what advice could you give such a person? Yeah, someone who is being discriminated... Wait for it. Who is being discriminated because of disability? Okay, my name is Irene Morugi. Irene. Okay, I wanted to ask because there are many people who have disabilities and are begging in the streets. Most of them are... Usually we see it like they take it as an advantage because some of them you can see that they have an ability to do something but yet they are begging. How can you deal with such people? So you are saying people who use this disability to seek sympathy? Yes. Okay, all right. Anyone else? Good. All right, so two questions. There you go. Go for it. Well, let me start with the second question. Getting employment as a person living with disability is so hard, very hard. Even when you have your masters, you have your PhD, you have everything. The employers, they will always hesitate to give you a job. The law requires you get a job. So what normally happens to most, actually the big number of people living with disability, they are very poor people. Even their families are very poor. And because of this rejection, majority will find themselves in the street. So I will not say that they are using their disability to seek for sympathy or empathy. It is the environment, it is a society that is like that. I don't advocate for that. That needs to be addressed. But how? That's the question. The second question was about people living with disability who are being discriminated. Using my own experience, I discovered that the society does not discriminate you because they have planned to do that. They don't know. In fact, people discriminate you unknowingly. We have been formed in a certain way. This is a perfect society which should have perfect people. And because you are in this situation, it's like you don't belong. And since the society or the people around you, they don't know how to relate with you, they would prefer to avoid you and it will feel like a discrimination. It's something that is at the subconscious mind of most of the people. For me right now you can interact with me and you can see me talking and you know what I can do. But that other person you cannot. Ya. Okay, so those are the responses from Brenda and I think there are some other questions from our viewers on Facebook on that. And I'll read the comments and then you will answer where the questions are. So we have Kenny Kenaboy, a fan watching live from Narok. Our guest for today looks beautiful. Wow, thank you. Yes. She is a conqueror despite what she has undergone. Feel loved. Hashtag mum. Yosturi indeed gives hope for life. Awesome. Thank you so much. Kenny Kenaboy. Then I have, I think this is bone mineral disorder, BMD. I accepted that I'm living joyfully with this mental illness. No, I don't know. What's BMD? I'm not very sure. Then thank you so much Colin Dewa says that you have a mental illness and you are living joyfully with it. That's amazing. God bless you. Then we have Eman James. Good evening. I'm following the conversation from Mombasa. Naongez a volume. Asante. Thank you so much Eman James. Lillian Muli, array of hope for people living with disabilities. Thank you, our guest. We thought you respect kindly allow me to ask this. There are times that some people living with disabilities. It is a question that was asked. Use their condition to exploit others. Or to unnecessarily manipulate others. What can you say to this and especially to those doing it in the communities? Thank you. So maybe you can consider that at the end. Then we have Ghadara P. Thank you so much Lillian Muli. Ghadara P. This is Peterson. And it's good these people living with disabilities are getting out and encouraging and even changing lives of people. To collect konaimta, say hi to Sam, Jonte, Nik, Shaz, and Refix. Does your mum know these are the names you are going with? Eman James. Why is it hard for someone who has a disability to get a job or even be a co-host with Dominique? We are here. She is my co-host but you can answer the first part of the question. I think you've already answered that part though. Again Eman James asked, thank God kulikuwa nam vweningi, but hagu kuwa na mafuri kuhu kumambasa. Ngiharibu siginu ya kuwaj the power talk show. This is a great fun man. Awesome thank you Eman James. Kip lagat. Let me read it again. Kip lagat. Japhan. Celem geng. Eisero. From Eisero Village Kabisawa in Nandi County, but now at Elgon View, El Dorit watching. Thank you so much. Kip lagat. I'm going to make sure I don't know how to pronounce your name. And then we've got Waweruwa Keyboard. Waweruwa Keyboard. Eman James is back. Do they have an organization meeting where they meet and talk about issues affecting them and come up with the conclusion. So we have a question about organization and those people with disability that use their disability to exploit people. Yes, I think that is basically it. Thank you so much for your comments. If you have comments, other suggestions and comments and questions, please do so on our Facebook page. About the organization, there are so many organizations for people with disability but I can say some of them really they don't get persons with disability talking about their own issues and I think the time has come when we need to move from looking at the negatives what is really happening to them and then now we move to their talents and skills and all that and the media is good. It can promote that. We need to stop pitting We need to move from pitting to you see what I can do. Do you want to name some of these organizations that may be that are useful maybe one or two that someone can register someone they know? We have the one for the government that is the National Council for People Living with Disabilities National Council for People Living with Disabilities someone can go and register with that. You can register in that one and in that one you can get you can get assistive devices you can get money for economic empowerment and the government has factored that but people don't know That's why we are doing this I'm sure there is somebody I hope even here people they know someone with disability and they will give them a call are you registered with the National Council for People Living with Disabilities and the forms are online you download and then you feel you take them there and with this you get as you say the assistive technology the assistive devices like my walking stick a wheelchair or hearing aid or this lotion for the albinos and all that then you can also get school fees from primary, secondary colleges University fees and you get tax exemption when you get employed and you get tax exemption when you are buying a car Duty exemption So someone buying a car at 1.4 You can't sell that car When you sell it it's written duty free not transferable So it's just branded to drive it So when someone is buying a car 2 million you are buying it at 1 million Even less So thank you Thank you for that So now I think we have come to the final part of the show, is this something that I have left her It's good Now I want us to play a game with her It doesn't require you to stand We work together so I make fun of her Now People are not very impressed You are calling it a walking stick Yes, it's an assistive device She said we don't pity them I think some of us are like Stop saying that Now we are going to play the game called Two Truths and a Lie I'm going to say two truths and one lie and then you are going to find out the three of the three is the lie So do you want to start and then you read your three statements Let me start Okay, go ahead Go ahead I got married I got married at the age of 20 You got married at the age of 20 My life is fun Your life is fun, of course Because I'm disabled I think the first one is the lie that you got married at 20 Right? That's the lie Is that the lie? Why do you think I did get married at 20? I think the first one is the lie that you got married at 20. Right? That's the lie. Is that the lie? Why do you think I did get married at 20? Because I'm not going to say that your life is not fun because you are disabled. I'm not going to say that. Does it look like fun? You are a fun person. I don't know if it's because you are disabled, but you are a fun person. Does it look like fun to have the same disability? No. So that's the lie. Oh, you want me to lead you? Yes, I want you to confirm because, by the way, I have worked with her and she is so much fun. She is so much energy now. I got a first class owner. Why can't that not be the lie? So which is the lie now? I'm actually confused. Which is the lie? Tell us. Let them help you. Which is the lie? That she got married at 20, isn't it? See? That one. Is that the lie? Yes. You see? I was very stubborn on that one. No. Now listen to mine. I once tore my school shot in primary school jumping Sengenge for fun with my friends. Two, I once pretended to be dead to scare my mum. And three, I fell from a tree when I was 11 years and broke my leg. Okay, which according to you is the lie? The one of climbing a tree. There are no trees in Nairobi. No, I grew up in the village. I grew up in the village. I grew up in Sagana. I grew up in Sagana. So Nairobi to me kuidi agutofta kazi. You want me to read again? No. Okay, go. I'm still on that last one. You see on the last one? Yes. We got it. Okay, fine. Ya, my mum, I scared my mum. I saw my mum coming. So what I did was I took a big log of wood, placed it on my chest and lie and lay down on my back as if I'm dead. Oh, mum was screaming. She was sure I was dead. So ladies and gentlemen, don't do that to your parents. This has been fun talking to Brenda Betikiema on the power talk show. Talking about everybody matters. I hope that you've learned something, that you can help someone living with disability in your area relative or friend to find a way to connect themselves to these opportunities, especially the National Council for People Living with Disabilities. I also want to thank Enok, the little young man right there. And I want to thank you all from Nibb, so you can give yourselves a round of applause. I'm going to see you next Wednesday on the power talk show as we continue the conversation next Wednesday. We will continue with this conversation and then the last one is there. If you are born during this month of July, we will be celebrating birthdays as usual for the July babies. So don't miss on the last show and be part, comment and tell me which day you are born on the very last show. You're going to be having cake and we will leave it on your behalf. So have a good night, God bless you and see you next time.