 I had a friend, her name was Shirley and she came to me in Wisconsin one time and she said I can't talk about you. She said she was an expert in hypnosis and she achieved many things through hypnosis through her life. I was like 20 years of working with hypnosis and her mind was quite open to suggested therapies, things like that. So she came across a course of miracles and she went oh this is a really big book, 1200 pages. I'm just going to pick something out there that I really think is the core of it and I'm going to hypnotize myself. So she picked out I am not a body, I am free, I still have God created me. I can't go wrong with that. I'm just hypnotizing myself that I'm not a body. She had a powerful mind. She goes out with this great hypnotic mind and she hypnotizes herself every day with hypnotic affirmations that I am not a body, I am not a body. And then she sees me and she says something's gone terribly wrong David. And I said what's happening and she explained what she was doing and she said one day I woke up, I looked in the mirror and my body was gone. I literally disappeared in the mirror. I looked and I went oh looks like it's worked. I'm not a body with powerful hypnotic trances from somebody who really practices hypnosis. She said but then it was like I was having trouble navigating time and space and I said what do you mean? She said well I was like bumping into showered less and bumping into walls and into doors and so forth. She was probably trying to walk through doors and the appearance of the body had gone from her perception but she was getting all bruised up. She said it's starting to hurt her. She said have I done something wrong here? I thought I was doing the course. I said no the course is not telling you to hypnotize yourself that you're not a body. It's not what it's teaching. It actually says Jesus says in there that it's actually the inappropriate use of denial to deny the body because it's part of your experience in this world. And so if you just try to out of the whole world she just tried to eliminate the body because if the body was the problem. But the body is not the problem. It's the belief in separation. It's the ego in the mind. And the more sessions that I have with her she discovered that she had a rage against men and a rage against her ex-husband. It was a grievance. It was the ego that was completely out of awareness that she had never dealt with. And she was just trying to use a hypnotic trance to go for like the bypass. That's the quickest way in the heaven. I hypnotized myself on not a body. So the body is just neutral to the Holy Spirit and Jesuit. The body is neutral not to the untrained mind. It seems to be part of the world of duality and it's sometimes highly charged. It's either highly valued or highly disowned. People even try to harm the body when they're following the ego or they try to glorify the body. Either way making it more than neutral in their awareness. And thereby reinforce their identification with the body. So you see how subtle this is. You don't want to glorify something like the body and you don't want to cut it down as if it's a problem. You just want to find your purpose that Jesus has, the Holy Spirit has for you in your mind. And then the body will be used just as a useful symbol on this communication device for the spirit. To smile through, to laugh through, to hug through, to dance through, to paint through. Just to express God's love. That's the good news for the body because it returns your mind to hold us. And that's what the good purpose is to return to hold us. That's what I'd like you to talk about. Can you talk more about the whole mind? Yes. The whole mind is what we would say in Course in Medical terms is what forgiveness is all about. So forgiveness is not in the end a personal thing. You forgive your mother or your father. You forgive your partner or your neighbors. Forgiveness is not like a personal thing that happens. It's more it's a letting go of the belief that you could ever judge anything and easing back in to a state of mind where everything is unified. It's seeing that the idea of judgment or the idea of rejection is literally impossible. That you in your whole mind are unified with everything. And you cannot take a part of everything and project it out and give it a name and give it an identity or a history or a meaning and expect that that will be a reality. It just isn't. So the process of judgment is a process of rejection where you are trying to reject something from your mind and say I'm so glad that that's not me. It doesn't matter whether it's an electron, a molecule, your Aunt Jane or Uncle Fred. It doesn't matter what the thing is that's being rejected. When you can take something and say this is not me, then you have identified yourself with an illusion. So actually what forgiveness is about is really about integration. It's about starting to realize that there is nothing that exists apart from the whole mind that you cannot take apart out of the whole. Even though we've been taught things like the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, the Holy Spirit will show you that the whole is real and the parts are not because it's impossible to do that. So that dynamic is where the thread is to the ego. The ego doesn't mind if your earthly conditions seem to improve. Let's say you take a lot of self-help classes and you're poor. And from the ego's perspective and then you work really hard and you become very rich. And the ego is like a spider sitting back going, very good. You've shifted from the illusion of poverty to the illusion of abundance and you may even feel better about that but the ego is still in charge because poverty and abundance in those terms are still part of its playing field and you simply march on the playing field a little bit further which is quite content with as long as you don't leave the playing field because it feels like it must exist and if you would leave the playing field then you would pull the plug on it.