 First question is from Ryan McClellan zero seven two four What is the best way to get a higher vertical jump jump shoes next one Doug? Did you oh, yeah, I mean my brother did too. Oh my buddy and I'm out They were these were shoes that essentially had a block under the the front part of the foot So it's like you're you're doing calf raises right walk around doing cafe They were they were a Phenomenon for about ten years. I mean everybody bought into them for I want to say about ten years What did you do put them on his walk around? No, okay So yeah, you well no They had a program that went with it like you were supposed to do sprints and little like hops and you were supposed to train in them And oh my god, did you get like unbelievably sore right? So that's what that's what made you think like these things has to be working Yeah, so it when my when I was a Let's see here at Santa Teresa. So when I was managing Santa Teresa, so I'm I'm probably at this point 26 or so And I I mean I bought those shoes back when I was 15 So I would say from 15 till then I had a trainer that was going to San Jose state and was a kines major and he took He got me into the the department in there and we did like some Body fat with the bod pod thing that they had there and I got to meet like the professor and he He actually did a thesis on the jump shoes and completely debunked them But it wasn't until like a decade after they had already like sold millions and millions of these things and everybody was sold on the idea They work they absolutely do not they had their run for sure. Oh, they did well That was back then we thought that that calves played such a huge role. They play a role Yeah, they're not there's much more happening than just having strong I mean I would I would argue they almost I mean if you broke down the mechanics of a jump I know there's somebody who's like yes, they do play a role It's like no, you I mean they play such a small role if you honestly the the time and effort spent on the calf to help The vertical if that exact same time is spent on your quads and and move the movement you'll get way more bang That's so that's okay So here's a big one a lot of people don't realize that jumping a there's a lot of technique involved It's a skill. So it's not just about power or or explosivity Although those are important. Yeah, it's also a skill and in fact when you look at people who can jump really high You start to notice a common pattern and technique. So it's not just about power Strength or explosivity, although those do play a role I would argue especially watching a lot of the PJ performance videos and all these like technique is is so Much of a higher priority than I even realized besides getting your legs strong and and you know making sure your whole body Moves and has a lot of control and can be explosive on command To be able to get the right step and to really have like, you know an even bigger step to get to maximize that stretch reflex To get you to catapult up like all these things matter all the little nuances matter You know the way that you approach the hoop if you're trying to dunk and all these types of things So, you know, I think that they just do a masterful job at you know Coaching people and teaching all these techniques hands down best information online is and I so I found Paul I want to say, you know five years ago when we were first getting into this and I was just getting on Instagram and because I like basketball Sports like he came up in my feed Back then I think he had maybe maybe 10,000 followers or so and you know right away whenever I see coaches or trainers I go through their feet to kind of see like what kind of content and information producing and like right away was like this Dude knows his shit and I have not found anybody else. That's Putting out this good of information and really there's this this misconception of Because trainers that are working with professional athletes They must be like the best or the smartest because they're working with professional athletes But a lot of times in the pro world, it's all about who you know Yeah, so they work. Yeah, it's just a network of the right the right person You know the right person and get in and a lot of times They're kind of average trainers are not that great the information they're presenting And I knew this as my experience went on and my education grew in the space Like I started to become aware more and more of this like oh wow like this That's not great to be training that trainer that or I'd meet like a professional athlete and he'd tell me the routine is trainer I'm doing like what the hell is this? But when I met saw Paul's like this dude knows this stuff when we were talking One of the things I asked him actually to your point Justin was I was like how much does technique make a difference in Compared to like, you know building your squad up because obviously learning to squat really well the power to your point Sal does play a big role, but technique is such a big role. He's like a lot of times out of him He goes I can take somebody in the end the same day Add three to six inches to their vertical. Mm-hmm. Just insane. Yeah, that is insane That's the difference of a person dunking a basketball and not being able to do it That's like somebody who could barely touch the rim and all of a sudden leaves that day and can dunk a basketball That's mind-blowing and he's all just by picking apart their technique the way they lead into the jump the way They set into it. They go and that's this is why it's it's weird for us Sometimes when we look at some of these guys that have these these crazy verticals, they don't have the biggest calves all the time They don't always have massive quads to get them up there. It's not it's not always that some of them are just They have the technique down. It's a skill. It's like saying, you know, how to get how to get a harder punch You could definitely get stronger point but learning how to punch better is going to be more effective So skill is number one So number one focus on the skill and technique of jumping high and then number two build up overall strength Squats being one of the best exercises and here's where I would actually recommend a quarter squat or a half squat This is where you know That's the range of motion that you really want to get stronger at to improve your vertical full squats are great They're not going to actually contribute as much as a half-squat or quarter-squat But if you're a beginner and you don't have good general strength Then I would go full squat if you're already working out if you already got good full squats You just want to do an exercise that's more specific to a vertical try some half-squats Well, and this is what there was a lot of controversy I think a year or two ago with LeBron Yeah, when LeBron James squat went viral and we I must have been tagged a hundred times on that And everybody like look at how to look at this pro athlete terrible. It's actually This is where it applies LeBron James doesn't give a shit if his quads are two inches bigger than the next guy LeBron James isn't caring about you know having great hip health when he's 60 years old All he gives a shit about is can I improve my vertical? Where do I generate the most force? That's you know gonna be applicable to my sport, right? You know and that's that you know and that's where the quarter squat kind of comes in like that's where you want To be able to have like the maximal amount of force to deal with so I can transfer that to my feet to then catapult Me up towards the rim. So I've announced this on my Instagram stories many times. So if you haven't heard me plug these guys You absolutely should if you're interested in in basketball vertical jump and training and even like technique and moves like PJF performance our buddy Paul fabrics is I think the best in the industry Max Marzo who's a good friend and partner of his awesome. And then of course. What's Corey's page? Yeah, what is it? Sless strength or yeah, less than your strength less than your strength and all three of them They all know each other to come from similar circle of people that I think are our leader all my favorite strength conditioning Coaches out there for sports. Yeah, they're general. They're leading the way for sure