 Welcome, welcome to Unhinged with the door dork. Today we've got a very special guest, Andy Anderson. He's one of the original dorks. Okay, are you guys ready for the next one? Ready. Ready. Oh no. Yeah. What's it say on the wall that's, that's kind of off-white right there. Right there it says not an exit. So. A lot of it. There's Braille underneath it saying it's not an exit. It's like a hotel card key. Yeah. And then they have access control on it. Oh, but yeah, there's, these two signs are clearly saying this way to an exit. Oh my Lord. Why wouldn't you just take the red exit signs out? Cause it's probably on the path of egress. So this is not an exit, but it's on the path, right? So this is access access. Is that a door bottom gasket? Oh yeah. There is a threshold on the bottom. That's bad. Everything tells me to go through it on previous episodes. Me as always the curious cat. And I would be right there jumping through. It's funny you said that cause I was like, what do we think's behind it? I was going to ask. My wife would be like, where are you going? Hold on. I'll be right back. You can't just throw path of egress exits and leave them. You'd have to get rid of them if you're not going to use them. Yeah. We're not going to be able to do that. So I just wanted to give you a quick summary of what happened, which I appreciate that they have the lower sign at the bottom, because that's now becoming code. But if you're running down this hall for your life and you see, oh, exit this way. And you get to it. And you're like, oh, I don't have the card or the credential. You get through this. You're probably going to be a little upset, right? You're not dead. I mean, it's something in the door hardware industry. You're going, this is on the path of egress. I'm kicking it down. I'm curious, is it like, did they change the building over? Yeah. I'm wondering if they did do a remodel or an update. And this is technically not an exit anymore. But if by code, you should be removing these signs down the kudos that they have four of them. You should have sharpied on the exit. Not any last comments before we give it a nothing score. This one's pretty high for me. I mean, let's hope they've created another path of egress somewhere in the future. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this, but I think this is like an eight or a nine because this is life safety that you're messing with. You're always, I didn't want to copy you. I was going to say nine. I can't always know the codes, but I'll find them. But yeah, it's like the biggest one is that you're in a path of egress and all I see is exit around it and, and then one on the door and then another access control on it. Telling me not to, it's just screams anxiety and a loss of weight to happen. This one is actually very similar. So that was their mag. There is a mag lot. And it is an exit. It's this is a stairwell door. You would need a card or a fob to exit this path of egress. I've seen them card from the stair side and you've always egressed out, but I don't see the request either. Even if, if you didn't badge out. Yeah, you'd need a Rex request exit and the override or an alarm pool and there is within reach. Like you're supposed to have that within reach somewhere. That's right. What the heck is going on? This, this one I actually ran into personally. It was at an apartment complex in downtown Portland and I was on the fourth floor. I got elevator access to go down to this is the main floor. We parked on the other side of the building. And so we didn't want to walk all the way over to the main entrance to leave the building. So we're like, oh, there's an exit right here. This will take us to our car right outside. And I tried to exit and I couldn't. I'm like, right here. That's probably a non electrified panic. No. So I thought maybe it was like a delayed egress. And so I pushed him on it. Nothing for over, over a minute. My wife was laughing at me as I was videoing again. 45 more seconds. It went down the hall to the main entrance to exit while fiddling around with this door. That is weird. Maybe it's infinitely. So you can definitely control the egress from the entry side, but the egress you should always have free egress. Cause what if you forgot Bob back in your apartment? There's probably a hundred people on this floor. It's a large apartment complex. And this whole half would have to run out to the main entrance to leave. What if that's blocking the door? I don't know if in fire, then maybe they just have it all tied into fire alarm. And all the power dropped on the opening. Cause it could be a non fire emergency. So that's, man, that just makes me crawl. Do you think there was always a mag on this door? Or do you think there's a problem with that exit device? And they try to solve it with a mag. I would think the ladder. Yeah. I'm guessing they had an incident. Like someone broke into the building, broke into the building, got up one of the stairway accesses, and they wanted to control or restrict access on that opening. Let's throw a mag lock up on there. What's the worst thing that could happen? Did you go to the other side of the opening and see if there was a ASA prep on there? Cause I wonder if it was the cylindrical lock. And they obviously went away from that as well and threw that on there. And then, and then that fix failed and they solved it by forever mag. I did not, but next time I'm there, I'll go check it out. Life finds a way for a door. There's no, there's nothing that can stop a door from getting out. Oh yeah. No, even the door was bending a little bit. I probably could have just like broken that dinky little mag lock on there. I know it's probably higher rated weight than I am. No, but that's seriously probably what happened. I mean, if you're saying the door was bending and stuff, they probably had a security incident with this. Number one, they need a reinforced door. And number two, they just need a different exit device. It wasn't prepped, right? A cheapo. It's not premium hardware on there. Okay. Any last comments, questions before we give it a knocking score. And I'm going to let you go first so that I don't, you don't copy me. Okay. I mean, it says egress and for me, being ADHD, some things, it's way too black and white and definitely no gray area for me to figure this one out. So I'm going to go with another eight. Yeah, I was, I was eight or nine for this because it's, again, it's a life safety. Yeah. No, this, this is bad. And Katie, Katie Flowers, our code and training specialist, she emailed me and said, Ben, we need to take care of this immediately. And so I craft up a letter that we sent off to the management team and attended my brother-in-law in a different department is now complaining to the management team as well until they get it fixed. Grab your fob whenever you leave. If there's a fire, do not prop that door open because you would want to stay. But you got to make sure you can get out. Yeah, but what about everybody else? What if they forgot their fobs? It's the train predicament. Okay. So, Andy, Mia, it's always a pleasure having you guys. Thank you. Much gratitude. Thanks for having me guys. Yeah, we appreciate it. Yeah. Make sure you guys join us for the next episode of unhinged. Our doors are always open because they're unhinged. Please like this video and subscribe to our channel. See you next time.