 Welcome to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode number 7 how you guys doing today? Hopefully having a good day. We are alive for this episode because from now until e3 We got to test different setups different settings different things And it's best to do it when I have Eric here and a guest on and all that jazz because when I just do it On my normal live streams How do I know everything's working because it's just me I need to know it works with other people including a Guest which we have today in mr. Game of a Jesse Yes, hi. Thank you so much for inviting me on again. I love being on before you have the podcast I love being on one of the first episodes as a guest and I'm happy to return especially with all the great Topics and rumors that you have Got you you guys just you're in for a treat today we have There's more info even since I sent you stuff Jesse This is I I can barely keep up That's all crazy Well, we're gonna kind of section it off as we talk about the leaks the rumors here because we have a real super legit source On a bunch of stuff switch pros out of the 35th anniversary a whole bunch of stuff and we'll get into why This is a legit source although I can't reveal certain details because it's I had I've verified this and I can't Exactly explain how it's verified But I'll give you the details on that also as always we have our hostess Yes, the hostess hostess who right across from a mr. Eric Moore. Hello, and yes, folks He will be joining us on our E3 Streams he should be there on the 12 13 14 15 if anything happens before then well It's just gonna be the solo show maybe on the 11th. It's like a nighttime thing But we'll worry about that. That's a Friday thing because I'm sure I'm gonna have to convince Eric to come Friday night says we're probably starting right away in the morning really not that hard to convince me Call me three. All right. Oh, we gotta run a dry run today You're gonna have to find a pool healing. Oh my gosh, right? I'm gonna make sure the pool set up on the yard so Obviously between the least much and only game over Jesse's we've been covering a ton of rumors because it's just that time of the year It's that time of the year, right? Like every time around this time E3 is coming up We have major anniversaries going on Hey Rumors are flying out. I know Jesse's got a bunch of people like talking to him behind the scenes Like, you know, he just did his podcast I think last night and talked about a bunch of rumors on there including a new Metroid rumor Maybe we'll get into that a little later And obviously on my channel you guys know for at least the last three weeks. It's been a ton of rumors But I'm not I don't like to just throw things out there to like trick you guys, right? I don't want to Try to give you false information, right? Which by the way is the stream even going? Is it is it working we're all good. It's all good. Yeah, okay. I'm on Wi-Fi on my laptop So it's like buffering over here. Let me turn down the settings. I think no, it's all the way down at 144p It doesn't need lower than that. Nice. So These are kind of technical difficulties good to sort out now before we get to the big show because you're an E3 we have a bunch of stuff and Towards the end of this podcast. I am going to reveal who some of our partners are for E3 So not all of them, but I'll reveal some pretty exciting stuff Giving away a lot of games like today I had a new partner join us for E3 and give us 50 game codes that that's five zero. Yeah Yeah, they're by my count there's going to be over 345 people winning something during E3. Whoa That's right now. We have other email exchanges going on more things happening. Just stay tuned. It's gonna be great. So Let's just dive right in because we have so much to talk about And we're gonna start with who where we're getting all this information from because it's all coming from one source At least the stuff from my end And we're talking about Samus Hunter 2 now Samus Hunter 2 is a Twitter account Which okay, right tons of Twitter's accounts But if you go through Samus Hunter 2's profile, you'll notice they have yet to post anything That hasn't come true. You go all the way back to the very beginning of their Twitter account Everything they've ever said was gonna happen at Nintendo has happened now. I have been talking to Samus Hunter It's a girl to she so I'm sorry if I mix up my pronouns it happens sometimes Because I'm so used to I deal with so many men on the internet Maddening man like Game Over Jesse and his long locks of hair So we don't have you know, actually we've had quite a few female guests on this podcast of late Yeah, it's Holly on that we had who was it before this click miss click on so hey with Game Over Jesse with Game Over Jesse, I know right yeah baller first time game over Jesse's been on solo in a while. So yeah, maybe he'll talk more I'm sure you'll have a lot to say because this is a lot of juicy. So Samus Hunter 2 Do you speak about where this information comes from? Samus Hunter 2 has gotten everything correct. The next thing they have on slate to get right It has to do with Nintendo announcing some of their E3 plans now He didn't detail everything but he did hint that there could be a Smash Bros. tournament and there could be a Splatoon 3 Tournament that's Nintendo Treehouse and that we should hear about it or hear some preliminary details tomorrow, so like really soon Did note obviously that it's possible that it's just getting shared internally tomorrow Revealed on Friday something like that, but whatever sometime this week We should be hearing something according to Samus Hunter So if you hear about us with 2 and 3 tournament for Nintendo Treehouse from Nintendo announced tomorrow or the next day The only person on the internet that has said that is happening is Samus Hunter 2 so And now us now us but we're saying it from Samus Hunter, right? so I so I talked to Samus Hunter 2 behind the scenes about two weeks ago and Kind of talked about how they get their information now I can't reveal how they get it, but I can confirm that I have seen the evidence of them Having access to legit information. I'll give you one example. I'm allowed to share you guys remember the Monster Hunter Direct So there were certain video files and certain Imagery that was associated directly with that Monster Hunter presentation that we got with Monster Hunter Stories 2 and the 2.0 update for Monster Hunter Rise which Samus Hunter said we were going to get I saw internal documents for that and All of the imagery I was shown appeared in that Monster Hunter presentation So if you want to think Samus Hunter 2 isn't legit, then I don't know But somehow they're getting a whole lot of information like that I was allowed to share that so sharing it with you now because that's all public now It's not a big deal other stuff. I've seen I can't share But we have got a bunch of information because today I drilled Samus Hunter I Drilled her for all she's worth. I don't think there's a single thing in In her knowledge bank that I now don't know at least up to today May 5th Cinco de Mayo, okay up to today There is nothing else the Samus Hunter knows that I don't know So let's dive into it because there's a lot and the first bit deals with the 35th anniversary of Zelda now This is stuff. She has talked about before but it's good to get clarification on what she has heard Specifically will be part of the 35th anniversary because there's been a lot of rumors out there, right? Okay, we have time a drawer is masked Whatever the heck Gresel is doing the win-maker by the princess etc and I'll tell me that stuff might be happening But we I like as an example Samus Hunter didn't know that we were going to get the New game announcement today that dropped right didn't know about that. So she doesn't know everything. Okay So even though this is what she is like very certain is happening for the 35th anniversary It doesn't mean there won't be more. So don't if you don't hear what you want Don't get disappointed. Put down the pitchforks right now on the pitchforks Don't be you know running into Nintendo's headquarters and ready to burn. I can't say I Looked at her Twitter earlier and the stuff that she announced and there's a couple of things. That's not on there. Oh See see this is what I'm talking about Samus Hunter doesn't know everything Because they don't they're not privy to everything, but when they do know stuff, I guess I find out now So I Said So I the reason I reached out to her is because Andres restarted a video on a new Donkey Kong game and Reference talking to Samus Hunter and showed part of the conversation or Samus Hunter said actually I know more than this But then he didn't really go deeper into it So I decided I'll just message her because she's been talking to me. Anyways, what do you mean? You know more? Here's what she said. Yes I talked about the majority of the projects that Nintendo has in the works that I know about in my past tweets But here's a recap. So let's start with Zelda 35th anniversary because we're all Zelda guys here We love Zelda Eric. Hey finally beat Breath of the Wild. I did I did That's right Eric Moore is now officially Someone to beat Breath of the Wild not 100% I don't think you'll ever well That's what was the percentage 33.17. Yeah, there it is. I have all the shrines done. I'm Fairly certain I got most if not all the actual quests done. I don't know how you sure Cuz I don't think the Korak seeds make up over 50% yeah, I don't know I'm pretty sure you're missing quite a few side quests. Oh All the ones that I found I have completed. Well, I'm sure you completed all the ones you ran into but yeah That's the foot that's the joy of Breath of the Wild If you're not using the guide and you don't know like you don't know where all the quests are There's quests all there's so many side quests in this game way more than any other Zelda game. That's for sure All right, let's get into you guys. I know are like at the tip of your toe like just give us what's Gonna be all right. So here is the plans according to Samus Hunter Which again might not include everything and will that give over Jesse time and unthinkings He's might have heard in addition But this is what Samus Hunter telling us and this is the stuff. I will plant my flag and stand by Okay, this stuff's gonna happen Obviously the sequel to Breath of the Wild is gonna release some time For the 35th anniversary. Okay, whether it's this year. You know by March and next year Whenever the Nintendo decides they're done, you know with the 35th anniversary of Zelda whatever timeline they set up for that You know the Mario and went into this year I'm sure the Zelda one will go into next year. Whatever the timeline is somewhere in there Breath of the Wild 2 is gonna come out, right? I don't think that's like that I mean God we all think Breath of the Wild 2 is coming sooner rather than later. I think for the most part Especially says funnily enough Microsoft apparently thought it was coming last year. So Came out doing a little court case today that Microsoft literally thought Metroid Prime 4 and Breath of the Wild 2 were coming last year. Nice. I thought that they have better more industry insiders than we do but Hey, that's some someone at Microsoft thought that anyways There's gonna be obviously the DLC that's already been announced for Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity There's two separate packs one of them releasing next month one later this year And by the way, I think we're gonna get information on that that the first pack this month Animal Crossing furniture and stuff like that. So Zelda items at Animal Crossing they did it for Mario No shocker there. There's gonna be other game events. She had that on there. What? She hit she had that on there the Animal Crossing furniture. Yep for the Zelda 35th anniversary on the on the last direct I was told That there was going to be Zelda Animal Crossing stuff revealed in the thing But then it ended up being Mario. So I didn't know that anyone else was talking about the Animal Crossing. Yeah Now this is in the future like this is I'm presuming this is whenever Nintendo blows the lid off Is it at E3? Is it after E3? Don't know whenever they decide to blow the load on 35th anniversary because guys Nintendo likes money And they know Zelda's gonna make a money. So they're not just gonna not celebrate it They celebrated the 30th the 25th and the 20th. So let's just be real If you think they're skipping then you had haven't paid attention to Nintendo over the last couple decades All right, there's gonna be game events You know other game events which I take that to mean If you look at what happened the 35th anniversary of Mario, maybe maybe some sort of Splatfest related to it Maybe like a Mario Kart 2 or event They do mention specifically a Smash Bros. So that's like sometimes they do like those little special spirit things in Smash Bros. They're themed. So I expect to be a Zelda one of that And obviously merchandise and there will be amiibo apparently I don't know if it's new amiibo, but there's going to be Zelda amiibo So I don't know if it's gonna be a re-release because you guys remember They did a whole anniversary Selection of amiibo with Zelda before for the 30th So maybe they're gonna reprint those and bring them back or maybe there'll be some brand new ones, especially since hey You got Breath of the Wild They've got the champion amiibo and all that and some other amiibo related But what if they get some Breath of the Wild 2 amiibo? I'm just saying Okay, don't just shaking his head Also be a bunch of merchandise that's what it is. There's already a bunch of Zelda merchandise They're just gonna be more of it specific to the anniversary. That's all expected. The other thing was So a likely Tetris 99 slash Pac-Man 99 kind of game. So Mario 35 The Zelda 35 basically It seems to be what they're hinting at they don't say Zelda 35 specifically But something that's in the vein of all those 99 games, right? So which we've had three of them now So yeah, that's it I think for Wait, no, I know what it says, you know, that's that's a separate update for animal crossing Okay, so that is what Sam is hunter is saying we're getting for the 35th anniversary is over recap Oh, Scott restored HD as well. Sorry. I know I skipped over that. I figured that was a given. It's already announced, right? But oh, no, we're not getting scourge. What is she's canceled? I just kidding. We're so sick with the Breath of the Wild sometime during the 35th anniversary scourge Or is she Hyrule Warriors, Age of Calamity DLC animal crossings furniture that's Zelda related Game events, you know, like the Splatfest and all that of the world. There's gonna be merchandising amiibo Some sort of Tetris 99 Patman 99 Zelda 35 something in there kind of like that Yeah, that's basically it that's what she's at least what she's privy to She has noted to me several times She does not have story or other details or release dates for something like Breath of the Wild Something to note about Sam is hunter and she's made this very clear to me in the past There are certain games that she might hear about like Breath of the Wild to but that's it hear about You're not gonna get exact details because Nintendo is very secretive even among their own staff on who has access to certain details so I'm just throwing that out there that she's aware it's happening during the anniversary because she's seen something about it But she hasn't seen story details title Etc. Etc. Honestly, that's not surprising. I had an email from someone The person that was giving me all the the breath of the wild to stuff and it really went into detail on the localization process and like the writing the story and how You won't be getting the entire script to localize you'll just be getting what you're working on and anything that needs to add context To it that way if something does leak out and it's like one specific thing it's easier to track down where that thing came from and I have Some other friends that have been on my channel a couple of them been on my channel before and then some of them haven't but They basically said the same thing that Nintendo With certain games has started doing that to where it helps keep leaks from going out because if someone mentioned something about Like describing a fire temple and they're like oh well this person is the only one that has anything about the fire temple so obviously it's going to be him and All the people that just popped in like wait a second the game over Jesse just confirmed fire temple breath allowed to No, he's that he's just explaining how localization works assuming this person is who they say they are which I Remember I actually covered it after you did because you're the source on this So I covered it you guys have probably seen the video if you haven't it's essentially someone that potentially works in the localization team and Has their name is in the credits of Breath of the Wild that was kind of like the big thing that maybe gave it some credence but Again, not like we can exactly verify You know, hey some of your driver's license and some of your badge for Nintendo was like I mean come on people aren't that dumb so Those actual game developers, they're not that dumb. No, I know Yeah, the what gave it credibility to Daniel and I and our myth H was he looked over the email with this too because we were trying to Find things that didn't really go together and it was interesting that like most people that'll send in stuff They'd be like hey the my blah blah blah works at Nintendo and this is what's going on Instead of doing any of that like he didn't give any story stuff He didn't go in depth on the game like most people do when they're trying to get their name or whatever out there We're like they're 15 seconds of fame on their favorite YouTube channel. This person Just went into tons and tons of detail of the actual work process and We showed it to well I showed it to some of the writers and they confirmed like everything that he said is actually how it works So so it's not so it's so it basically it doesn't sound like someone that's just making up how the process works It's not and the thing is if it was made up and completely just From this person's mind The information that he gave on the writing process Was still correct. Yeah, even if he did make it up. Yeah Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe the person doesn't actually work in Nintendo But they clearly have worked in localization at least somewhere or know somebody that does yeah, like yeah, but again That's the big thing with these sources even samus hunter to as much as I believe a bunch of the stuff that she puts out there It's just notable that hey, we don't we're not we're not there in person Typically every now and then you'll meet a source that does happen sometimes, but I mean you're in Kobe We're not really beating anyone so All right, so is there anything else that you've heard and well, I know there's more you've heard Jesse That could potentially be happy for the 35th anniversary beyond what samus hunter is saying will happen So There's a lot I know I I posted the the videos and you covered them as well They actually did really well for your channel about the whole Grezzo thing working on multiple Zelda games Ocarina Time Majora's Mask and then Starting on whatever unity game they're working on and a lot of people are like Grezzo's a small team They would never work on two three different games at once, especially all of them being Zelda But if you look at the 25th anniversary and the 30th anniversary That's what they did They released like two different Zelda games to celebrate those Anniversaries and then immediately began working on one where One of the times C ended up working on two Zelda games right after finishing two Zelda games And the only thing they've released since Link's awakening was that 3ds port which let's be honest it would only take like a month for a small team to do and What have they been doing with their two or three other teams for the past two years well me Tomo Yeah, well, yeah, but like oh yeah, yeah, yeah That's what I mentioned would like it would take a small team like a month to port that game over Well, it's because it's not a big game at all But you say that did you see all the new features they added for being able to customize your meat It was not in the original game. They like rebuilt the entire me customizer. It's crazy It's like a true avatar customization thing now Yeah, but the the thing is like even if they did spend a lot of time on that That's just one of the three or four different teams that they yeah, and we know they have that many because there's been based on the release Yeah, like you can look and within a year's time. They've released three or four different games Which had to be in development around the same time But anyways getting off of Grezzo the person who had mentioned that to me uh Yeah, I believe it's the same person who There was a tweet that I put out the day before the Nintendo Direct that said something like wouldn't it be cool if in Tomorrow's Nintendo Direct we got Skyward Sword HD age of calamity DLC Breath of the Wild 2 trailer and Zelda hardware and all four of those things kind of happened We didn't get the Breath of the Wild 2 trailer, but we got promise for Breath of the Wild There was a mention. Yeah, we got Skyward Sword HD We got The we didn't get a trailer for the age of clams DLC, but we did get it was kind We got details for it. Yeah, I mean there was motion and the Zelda hardware that I thought was going to be like a Breath of the Wild 2 doc or something because they just said Zelda hardware that ended up being the Skyward Sword joy cons So basically like three and a half out of the four things that I was told was going to happen Happened and the fifth thing that I was told was going to happen was the Zelda Animal Crossing stuff, which I did not believe at all And then the Mario amiibo stuff came on and I was like, oh, maybe they are gonna show it Maybe I should have added that in the tweet, but I just didn't believe it because I thought it was kind of dumb But you know, why would you think it's dumb they do things I don't know across in all the time Yeah, yeah, I know they put like Majora's Mask and stuff in the 3ds one I think but I just didn't think that they were going to be Like putting that much stuff Zelda related any direct for Mario wasn't oh in that specific direct Yeah, okay Yeah, like I didn't think it was going to be like five or six different Zelda things and a direct that wasn't But it was kind of four things Yeah But they did load it up with a lot of stuff and So like with all of that stuff that they mentioned being basically drew That's why when I look into the Grezzo stuff, I was like, okay, well that has to be True as well. And then the person with the email Uh, the recent one that we were talking about a moment ago Said something about ocarina of time um When you see the logo on like papers or something in The place it's not ocarina of time hd or ocarina of time 3d hd Like what they did with super mario 64 ds where they like gave it two titles. Yeah. Yeah, uh It's just titled ocarina of time Which is what they did with links awakening by the way guys Yeah, I basically remade links awakening and they just call it links awakening. Yeah Not dx not remastered not hd not new not remade not new links awakening And so a lot of people were kind of in fear that ocarina of time would just be an n64 port like they did with super mario 64 but From everything that's going on. I I don't think that's going to happen What I find interesting if if that guy's true, you know, and the ocarina of time logo is legit It also makes me think if you look at how nintendo's handled these, you know remakes re-releases or whatever Um, when they don't really do much They just call it hd like if it's just taking the game putting in hd like what they're doing with scott resort Um, they just say yeah, that's why the princess even the windbreaker Which they put a little bit more work into because they were practicing for breath of the wild They used some of the engine assets from the breath of the wild engine Yeah, which is where you get like all the new bloom effects and everything in windbreaker But still they just call that hd because they even realize. Hey, we're not at Adding that significant kind of content. You can actually technically they cut more content and they put in If you think about the whole tingle tuner quest and all that being removed, but You know, I feel like they could have found a clever way to still include it somehow Even without having to have like a cross connection with a 3ds or something But anyways, that's neither here nor there Uh, they clearly just decided to go with the message bottles and call it good Which at the time with me verse and everything it kind of sort of made sense uh, so Okay, so like they do this hd thing But then we saw okay, then they released links awakening and that was like a full-on remake they remade that game They just call it links awakening. They bring out xenoblade chronicles It's not technically a remake. They call it definitive edition. It's a remaster. Okay So they're starting to use definitive edition when it's like a remaster They're starting or or like either a remaster or a combining of all content together, right? So that's what definitive edition seems to mean them hd means mostly Hey, we did the bare minimum work and brought it to you at hd But then when they just reuse the name itself and release it on a switch card Right now we have one example, but that one example is They remade the game. So if this logo is true and it's just called ocarina of time That's a remake Yeah, and some people think that nintendo would be too lazy to do that and I think the laziest version of this weekend is just basically what you would get if you Emulated it in hd on your computer and then just made the textures a little bit prettier That is like the bare minimum that I would expect But if it is fully remade I think There's a big possibility for that because and this is the same reason that I mentioned that I didn't think the oracle games were being remade like that one rumor was suggesting because uh To to make it quick ocarina of time hd if they did the bare minimum just ported the 3ds version sloppy Port whatever in hd That would still Sell more copies based off of its name ocarina of time hd in its pre-order phase then Uh oracle of ages and oracle of seasons would sell if they were bundled together and discounted to 40 dollars And in its lifetime like I think that would get about 4 to 5 million in its total lifetime And age of calamity and pre-orders got 3 million or a little bit more So if ocarina of time hd was available for pre-order I think it would be easily 5 or 6 million in its pre-order If a spin-off like age of calamity got 3 million, I think uh ocarina of time could easily get more pre-orders than that and Oracle of ages and seasons two games bundled together discounted 20 off selling at 40 dollars Through its entire lifetime I still don't think it would sell as much as ocarina of time would at 60 dollars by itself And it would only take maybe three to six months to port it to switch if it is just to port Yeah, the bunny and i'm with you All right, yeah, it was really on remake that or ingredients games to you know, that that takes years Yeah, whereas the oracle games would take them like at least two years to make both of them Because they'd have to remake it all building from the ground up where ocarina of time would just be a quick port So they would spend three months and make however much money 5 or 6 million pre-orders would sell Or they could spend two years working on two games and maybe sell a million pre-orders And then three or four million through its lifetime It always depends. I think some people that think the oracle games could get could be One because there's people who really love the oracle games and they haven't really gotten any love since they first came out Uh and two I think it's because people looked at links awakening and they go well Hey, if they just decided to reuse that engine What games make sense to reuse the engine for links awakening? And that's why they look at all the oracle games obviously make sense to potentially Reuse that engine which would then speed up the development process and possibly make it not take as long to develop That being it's not reusing that engine that being said we just got links awakening And I know we're getting scourge sort of g right but I feel like for the anniversary of zelda and this isn't to any like i'm not trying to knock people Like who want top-down zelda? Okay. I hope we get a new top-down zelda someday I hope that like triforce heroes wasn't like the last new one. We're getting I hope we're getting more someday And I think we will right now. I think they're just riding that breath of the wild wave We're gonna get breath of wild two and then we'll see what happens after that because I think they'll They do tend to use the top town games as filler content And that's why I said after breath of the wild two maybe the next one will be a top down I'm not saying they're not going to immediately work on a third game to follow breath of wild two We'll have to see how breath of the wild two ends and if it's leaving the door open for a third one There is an interview with alanuma and miyamoto both I think where they're asked if they're working on a 2d zelda game and they say yes They are working on a 2d zelda game and that they want it to Eat like their quote was they want it to evolve. Yeah I mean that's what a while ago 2d zelda games. Yeah, and that was before links awake like a year or two before links awakening started development And we never heard anything about 2d zelda and it's like links awakening wasn't it because it didn't evolve 2d zelda in any way at all It was just a normal Unless they plan to reuse that engine a bunch of times then he could be like, well, that's how it evolved They created a standardized engine to make future ones like they did with new Bros, right but I again until they do it Again, yeah until they do that and reuse that engine that theory kind of goes out the window It's kind of a hey, maybe but they haven't done it yet. So let's not jump the gun I obviously I agree with the ocarina of time Um, you know a remake or even just an hd Even if it's just I mean I think an hdn of the of the 3ds version Would be the way to go if they were to do it and obviously grezzo Made that version so they'd be the experts to hd it and obviously we just saw what they did with mitopia So we know that they can obviously hd 3ds games. That's not a problem for them I gotta be doing that But you know also like there's also some prevailing thoughts out there that hey, they didn't you know, there was Technically a quote-unquote better version of mario 64 and when mario's anniversary came around all they did was just up res through a you know an emulator basically The n64 version so Don't really know We hope grezzo's got something It's more at this point. What do we think it is versus what other people are saying and I think the door is kind of wide open. I just hope if it is ocarina of time They don't do what happened with mario galaxy and then just not give you the second one Like not get mitoria's mask at some point even if it's released separately Like it just that would be so infuriating to many people that would be like Oh, we finally got what we wanted for ocarina of time and then like there's never gonna do more drawers mask This is what it feels like with galaxy 2 it feels like Never gonna do anything with galaxy 2 at this point wouldn't it be really awesome if they were both announced at the same time and packaged together That's why that's my hope. That's why I'll package them together The thing is they really discovered hd on the norm. I don't see any way that I think if there's a package together It would be like twilight princess and the winmaker hd package together just because Which by the way, jeff grubb put out there that we are getting twilight princess and the winmaker hd during the 35th Which isn't part of samus hunter's thing, but I mean guys what we u games don't we get We're seen nobody chronicles x. I think that's like one of the last ones left to get So clearly we're going to get these games at some point I think they're worried about the the release timing of these of those games Specifically because I do think if they plan to bundle twilight princess and the winmaker hd together Which the only reason I feel like they might bundle is because they already re-released them in hd and got individual sales So I feel like those are great candidates to bundle together like the 3d all-stars game So if those are are bundled together Then from what I've heard from other sources And this is where we're getting away from the people that I know to likely be right is that Their release timing for these will depend on breath of wild 2 if breath of wild 2 comes this year These games will be the capper next year if Breath of the wild 2 is pushed to spring then these games will come out this year around holiday time Despite the fact we also got skyward sword hd Doesn't matter because nintendo knows those games packaged together are probably going to sell five eight Maybe 10 million because they're really really popular zelda games. Well not to mention skyward swords had some time to You know get its sales. Oh, yeah, skyward sword probably a full month in the market I think before anything else would touch it. I I can tell you that skyward sword Hd is 100 percent holding back some really cool stuff. I'm sure it is I'm sure it is they don't want it to overshadow and even people in the comments of my videos have Even said this that if another like ocarina of time or twilight princess was announced They would pull their pre-order from skyward sword to pre-order the other game So So another thing to talk about with the 35th anniversary is We might not get a blowout for it all at once We might get them mentioning the 35th anniversary for like the first time at e3 and then maybe uh Hey, we're gonna have updates, you know on this 35th anniversary for months to come And then they're gonna trickle it out through nintendo directs and other things Specifically because you might be like well, why do they care about overshadowing skyward sword that even if ocarina of time gets announced and that overshadows it Still probably at least five million people are gonna buy skyward sword hd, which is more than the soul originally So who cares? Well, it's not so much. I think that nintendo's worried about the sales I think anything's gonna sell that zelda and they push right now anyways because zelda is more popular than it's ever been But I think there's a couple things of skyward sword hd. This is this is more of the theory territory where One we factually know it's a very important game to eji and omo and shigeru Miyamoto We game over jesse and i don't know how many of you guys know This was one of like the last games that Miyamoto had any like Actual like he came back to the franchise to help make this game happen And he hasn't really been with the franchise since and before that he was kind of Yeah, I know he's technically listed in the credits as like the general overseer of the ip But he really wasn't involved right he would just give like his final stamp Oh, yep, you're good and then iji and omo was allowed to do what he wanted But with this game Miyamoto got directly back involved so it's personally Um important to Miyamoto if you guys remember this is actually the last zelda game that Miyamoto himself was showing off on stage at e3 Everything since iji and omo has been presenting So that's this is an important game to him. It's an important game to iji and omo It's an important game to zelda lore if you care about that you care about the timeline You care about possibly stuff that's happening in breath of the wild too because if you played skyward sword There was a certain important scene that happened in breath of the wild that's directly related to skyward sword But we don't know the significance of it because nothing came of it in the game But the reference was there which suggests something's happening in the future involving the master sword and stuff from skyward sword potentially and We'll just leave it at that because at this point it's all speculation. We don't know anything after that We just know that factually occurred so Probably going to be a connection the master sword heard of it. It's kind of a big deal in the zelda series I don't know it is and if you know what's in the master sword and you know the background story She's kind of a big deal too so um Let's uh Let's move on from 35th anniversary Yeah, we have a bunch of stuff to get into here because guys I know some of you guys are here because we got the switch pro stuff virtual console What the hell's going on with that? We got some big updates for you guys Uh, but that's going to come a bit later. Let's go um down from the 30th anniversary to the next line from samba center To where they said animal crossing content updates like bruster and a new returning villager Alongside other features. So basically there's going to be a feature update at some point this year for animal crossing Along with some bruster and other returning villagers Which I think animal crossing fans You got to be happy to hear this right like there's been a lot of criticism lately that the animal crossing updates have been Kind of lackluster sent like they did the swimming update last year and since then and it's just been oh Here's a trickle of new items here and there Otherwise here's our seasonal updates They're kind of like phone it in you know And everyone's like when are we going to get like that next big content rich, you know new feature Maybe bring back features from new leaf or something Um, and I guess I they don't say we're getting features back from new leaf But there's going to be other features and returning villagers at some point this year. So Just throwing that out there that is according to samus hunter. I've not heard this from anybody else besides the zelda Um animal crossing content. I've heard that from a couple people but but this specific just animal crossing in general Um, that's that's that's that's exciting stuff Um, especially since we're going to find out I think tomorrow If or maybe it's even tonight if animal crossing has now overtaken Mario Kart 8 deluxe is the best selling game on switch. Whoa We're getting we're getting fiscal year updates So stay tuned we'll have a video on that when when that information drops it drops tonight I'll get it up tonight, but um, I'm already awake right so why not Uh, next up sleep Who needs sleep? I see the tomorrow. I think pretty sure it's tomorrow. I don't it's japanese time. So um Next up, uh, there's two curbie games. So this is where things get interesting. So how Is working on a bunch of stuff There's going to be two curbie games that are coming this year Which by the way saying a curbie games coming this year is like saying water is wet We get a curbie game every year every year for like it's been like 11 straight years We've had a curbie curbie game nice. So like even like a little tiny one. It doesn't matter. We always get something So apparently we're getting two this year One of them is going to be like a mainline one, which I think is you know I don't know like I think they consider a curbie star allies mainline So it could be like that could be even bigger deal than that Uh, but there's supposed to be a mainline one coming this year Also a spin-off one, which there's a lot of curbie spin-offs. So You know take that for what you will also, there's apparently going to be two Other ip's coming from hal Uh laboratories that are going to be just e-shop releases. So smaller titles just on the e-shop. So I mean, the nintendo has done a lot of those kinds. I mean rusty's real deal baseball always comes to mind Um, but they've done a lot of little titles like that over the years. So having more of those I mean guys got any thoughts on those? Or the animal crossing stuff I don't play a whole lot of them. So I mean the only thing that I can think of right now is that You know with getting another curbie game and all he's doing to stop and then to say hi Yeah, I think they they might have the the right formula of the people that are working on the main curbie team are just So quick at coming up with cool ideas that they can just push out these great curbie games In no time at all. Uh, but with the animal crossing stuff I haven't heard anything about animal crossing But as popular as it is you would expect nintendo to give it as much DLC Yeah, eventually, you know some sort of update i'm nintendo is not like Especially when you hear what we what we got later to talk about when it comes to virtual console Nintendo is acutely aware of the criticism of their games Like why do you think we got that mario party update guys? Why do you think that happened? It didn't just happen out of the kindness of their hearts They have heard the criticism Everyone had the super mario party was not fully playable online And now they hear your criticism that you can't play against randoms And again people are having a hard time just playing against their friends because it disconnects, but i'm just saying That um nintendo hears your criticism whether or not they do anything about it You know, that's going to be a game-to-game basis But I think super mario party is still being played enough nintendo has the tracking data right every time your switch goes online They know who's playing what so they know if super mario party is still relevant So you can be you guys might be why release it now nobody cares Dude that gives it like 10 million 11 million. What do you mean nobody cares people back too? Like what do you mean nobody can just because you might not be playing like dude It's a very popular switch game So Um, yeah, and it's still selling. By the way, it still pops up in the top 10 charts like every other month um, so did I talk to you in a Private message about nintendo fixing their online service and adding online updates to older games Uh, did you talk to me about that? Uh, I did I didn't mention a mario party. I didn't think they were going to start doing it. Oh, I mentioned pokemon How there's like the two second lag and then uh, yeah Um age of clams. Yeah getting an update for online multiplayer. Yeah, which um Yeah, but yeah, we we reported on there being well, we didn't really have to report. I mean, uh, what's his name, uh Shintura for akawa put out there that they were going to update old games at their last investors meeting So Yeah, we didn't know what that meant and then we got this so it's kind of like, okay So now now what are we gonna suddenly get mario odyssey dlc out of nowhere? You know four years later Like they didn't update a game that was just three or six months old Like mario parties two years old at this point, isn't it? Yeah Yeah, so like they're really updating old old games not just Mackie in the chat, uh corrected me. I guess super mario party is sold 15 million now I'll have to bring up their sales charts. Like dude that game is selling like crazy guys Let me think about that 15 million is before breath of the wild came out That would be double the best-selling Zelda game of all time. That's like You guys don't understand super mario party is massively popular. My kids love that game. It's a family party game So yeah, it might not be you breath of the wild metro gamers. You might not be your cup of tea. I'm telling you I mean just wait you guys think it just wait to mario golf super rush becomes the best-selling mario golf game ever It's gonna happen. It's going to happen. I can just tell you now. It's going to happen I have mario golf the original in my closet right now. Yes There it is All right, so next up, um, this is a video I actually did yesterday, but there's a little bit more so samus hunter is saying that uh, they know about plans for donkey kong for upcoming years With the main game and this is what we talked about yesterday on on the video Coming from e pd tokyo, which notably Is part of the team that worked on super mario odyssey so Are we not getting an odyssey too? But are we getting like a serious attempt at it in built donkey kong game? There's been stuff around that. Is it a 3d game? 2.5d game like like, you know Basically the idea that samus hunter throughout there is that they are trying to make donkey kong As relevant as it was back in the snest days. Well back then The like the first donkey kong country sold like 9 million That was coming right off of the arcade game the original decade that was like Between all the different arcade cabinets and the nests and everything like sold like 60 million copies so like They're trying to get back to 60 million that that's pretty insane I don't even think wow, maybe mario kart 9 would hit 60 million who the hell knows at this point, but um I I think it's one of those things where I think they feel like dk can be a consistent 10 million seller And this isn't them knocking in what retro studios did Donkey kong country return sold 6 million But then tropical freeze came out didn't do that well in wii u didn't really do that well compared to other games on switch either So I think they look at it as you know, we haven't made an internal donkey kong game In forever So what happens if we take the reins we put our mario team on it? Maybe even reuse the odyssey engine And just blow people's minds because remember The next expansion for super nintendo world is supposed to be a dk area So you see that it's a 40th anniversary and you might say well, who cares dk doesn't sell that well anymore why would nintendo care because Dk is like a representative for nintendo of one of the major reasons they are where they are today as a video game company Yes, they factually had video games before donkey kong But donkey kong was the the arcade game the game that blew up nintendo in the video game world before they even It saved the uh the video game industry. Yeah Like it's the game like so it's high and nintendo Is still a traditional japanese company and if you can't tell by what's happened in the past of the water cutting the salary All that like there are very honorable company. And so to them Dk is important even if dk doesn't sell well Lately they feel like maybe dk is not selling that well lately because we haven't taken care of business We've been outsourcing it right. Let's stop outsourcing it even to a studio we own And let's see if we you know, maybe when we did that whole dk 64 back in the day Maybe that was the wrong approach. Maybe we could do it better today So We need to give it the breath of the wild the mario odyssey treatment And revolutionize the series. Yeah, so That's exciting for me growing up with dk. I mean, I I love dk and dk is one of my favorite characters of of nintendo Yeah, like I and you think about it, you know, even if they go with a 3d platformer Nintendo doesn't actually have a ton of 3d platformers. I thought I have a lot of side scrolling platformers They don't have a lot of 3d ones And since mario sort of came off of dk originated from dk as jump man It kind of makes sense like if you could have those two franchises be 3d platformers and be a top tier Like why does mario have to be the only one? Why can't they have another one that's just as good? Different characters different enemies different abilities. It'd be interesting to see like a donkey kong in the vein of like an open world type mario odyssey Yeah, see how that would work. It'd be great and in a big lush jungle swinging behind Flying all over the map and the barrels get on the mine carts. Come on. There's so much cool stuff You could do in a 3d space. Yeah, that would be awesome. It'd be like, uh, how ukulele kind of evolved the 64 platformer style but instead of like a smaller studio doing it it's nintendo who's A genius at coming up with new unique ideas and expanding on older styles. So I I think it would be really cool, especially if they Uh, like in super mario odyssey, they had a to where Uh, you could turn into like a painting on the wall basically like what a link between worlds does and then there was the 2d segments Uh, we jump on the wall If donkey kong did something similar like not turning into a painting on the wall But went to an area where the camera just turned to make it look like a 2.5d game for some of the levels That way the people who did like the classic donkey kong countries Could still get enough of the gameplay that they love To continue playing on in the 3d parts that they may not like as much But then there's still the new 3d parts for everyone to play that Does want the new experience. So it would be a way to like yeah, absolutely make both sides happy and uh Yeah, and it's something that they've literally already done with mario odyssey So it's not like someone could say like they would never do that And I think if done right It can actually be popular again Yeah, they got to do it right. Yeah, so we'll see Uh, moving on because there's so much to get through here We got next up samus under 2 brings up a fire emblem remake project And I've talked about this before but I have more there's more details than I have before The remake is supposedly for a fire emblem title that never released outside japan So that really narrows down what it could be samus under notes that it's probably The genealogy of the holy war game that never released outside japan. That's what samus under thinks it is So that's really for fire emblem fans that that don't know the whole lore and history of the franchise You want These old games from japan coming back fresh because it's going to feel like a brand new game to you because you haven't played it before Unless you had old, you know Owned a famicon and you know could read japanese text because obviously These are text-heavy games. You guys know what fire emblem is like. So that's kind of cool. Any any love for fire? I'm up here Uh, I I like it. It's all right. Uh, it was popular enough for nintendo to go ahead and Not just do a fire emblem game for switch but Do multiple fire emblem games for switch and 3ds like there was the one 3ds game where there was three different versions That released at the same time Which was insane and then uh, they even had the spin-off for warriors. Uh, yeah Dynasty or not. Yeah, the dinosaur. Yeah fire emblem warriors So like the game was popular enough to where they thought a spin-off would sell enough to Be profitable so And they put they're really quick at bringing out new fire emblem games where the the remakes that they have done So I could definitely see them taking One that hasn't really three houses sold really well, too. Yeah, that's notable, too So a quick turn around on a remake. That's the guys. That's what they did on 3ds. Yeah, that's what they've always been doing Well, not always they weren't doing this Not always awakening blew up one awakening because Awakening was going to be the last fire emblem game unless it sold really well And then it sold more than any fire emblem game ever So then they said oh So people do like it. We just had to tell them to like it And they even put a spot in the smash bros dlc characters for well, I mean, let's not go over there. All right. I mean, that's just We're gonna we're gonna have some fights in the chat about fire emblem characters. Oh boy. Um, all right All right, so apologies. Yeah, this next piece is on this is something that's been said by many people But sam is hunter 2 does say that we are supposed to get a 2d metro game this year Um, that is a very common rumor that's been out there said by many sources So there's there's actually quite a bit of weight around the idea that we could get a 2d metro this year The smoke is building. Yeah, it is the 35th anniversary for metroid as well this year So think about we got three or four major anniversaries anyway the pokemon 25th We have zelda's 35th, which by the way, I'm just gonna be honest here Why do we give a shit about the 35th anniversary? The only thing that's cool for me is I turned 35 this year. So it's like hey 35th anniversary I turned 35 but like honestly like why like, okay, I get I get I guess I get the 20th It's two decades. I guess I get the 25th. It's a quarter century I guess I get the 30th because everyone makes a big deal out of turn and 30. Who makes a big deal out of turn and 35 But they did it with mario. They did it was a you know why they do it guys It's an excuse to sell shit. Oh, yeah, I mean it's it's all about making money That's why but it still it just feels weird to me like nintendo is the only company I know that every five years we got to celebrate. Are you complaining? Well, what I'm saying is okay every five years Sounds like you're complaining. I think every five years. We got to celebrate it takes about five years to make a mainline zelda game So it's like every time we reduce the mainline zelda game We got to blow up and sell you a bunch of us nintendo stop milking me. You're gonna keep milking me till I die And you're gonna keep you're just gonna keep opening. I'm gonna keep spending it. You're take my money Tune in tune into e3. We're giving away scabbard store joy con and other zelda goodies. So like I'm just saying They're milking me to give to you too. So Uh, so anyways 2d metroid, uh, I think this is I feel like Metroid prime 4 is not coming this year Maybe we'll actually finally see a trailer for it at some point this year potentially I just don't it doesn't give me The vibe that because of when they restarted development that we're really then you have coven on top That we're really gonna see it release this year even though microsoft swore it was going to release last year apparently They never know I could be wrong. I would love to get metro prime 4 this year Um breath about to a metro prime 4 in the same year would just be great but I think that's why you see this 2d metro where they're like, hey, we know this isn't going to get done So we have a different team working on 2d metroid that we're gonna get out and get that out for the 35th anniversary Maybe also prime trilogy samus hunter isn't saying that but A lot of a lot of like industry insiders and like actual journalists have been saying that metro prime trilogy hd has been done for years But they keep pushing it back because they want to They want to time it with metro prime 4 They want to show metro prime 4 and then also be like, but hey while you wait Here's the trilogy hd and since they're not ready to show metro prime 4 They're not showing that that's prevailing theory from journalists. I don't you know What have you heard? Let's go. Uh, I was just gonna say it would be really cool if uh tantalists had been remaking uh, the metro prime trilogy To and it gets shown off at e3 this year with a trailer for metro prime 4 as you were saying Because the the look the guy the localization guy as he's now known After the zelda stuff mentioned Yeah, um, he mentioned that I guess this week because he sent it monday And said that he found out that day that metro prime 4 Was about to enter the translation localization stage And I was talking to some other people about it delt who we mentioned before this and some other people And uh, we kind of came up to the idea that if it's not coming out this year Then what they could be doing is not translating and localizing the full game but taking what the industry people call a vertical slice Which is like if the entire games in alpha or beta, they'll just take like one level And make it look as great as they can And like carefully plot out the track that the person goes through when they're making the trailer And then like if you get off that path, you'll just fall through the floor because the game is not made They're just making that one segment look as good as they can And if that's what they're doing to record a demo or uh Show off a gameplay or something like when people are standing on stage and they're just like playing the game Whatever they decide to do it could just be a small segment being localized and translated For the demo that way the HUD and the map and everything is in english And if any text comes on screen, then it'll be in english to go along with the trailer They're not going to show it off without it being in local languages Yeah, so that that's what we think it could be if it's not the full game coming out this year Then they're just localizing it for localizing enough to do a demo basically or a trailer And uh Yeah, I mean and that makes sense guys. They they do that all the time. There's a lot of times you get trailers Game's still far out, but it's in english But that doesn't mean the entire text of the game is actually in english Yeah, I don't know something like that It just means what they were willing to show you they localized it and even then it's not final could have changes Stuff like that. It's just we'll see. Well, we're all hoping we see Metroid Prime 4 this year Oh, yeah, bear minimum. I don't play Metroid Um Yeah, you're missing out I'm not you're like halo. This isn't halo though. Metroid and halo are like not even close just because they're both sci-fi um so uh Metroid 2d obviously cover this year Supposedly according to multiple sources including samus center. Uh, I think that's fine I I think nintendo in the back of their minds Maybe regrets putting samus returns as a late release on 3ds after switch came out I know why they did it because they weren't sure switch was gonna be successful So they still wanted to give quality games to 3ds at the time But if they had known Sorry, oh, it's okay. Go on No, uh, you you stop for a second So I didn't know if you were gonna keep going but um the team that they had make samus returns they had Been previously working on a different Metroid game That had gotten canceled so they could start working on uh samus returns Which is odd and probably had a lot to do with that fan remake that was being made So yeah, and with the 2d thing I haven't heard anything about Metroid 2d. So um, yeah Yeah, that's it was just the I just wanted to mention sure the game that ended up getting canceled They could have went back to whatever that was to try to make a 2d game for switch or who knows Um, so the next the next thing is stuff. It's already been announced That samus hunter new ahead of time Splatoon 3 and all the various pokemon games all that stuff's already been announced So we don't need to go back down that path Uh, once it's more relevant down in the future, of course once we get more Splatoon 3 information Once we get more pokemon information obviously one big pokemon thing to mention Hey new pokemon snap site anyone else play it besides me No, I mean I have yet to get it But I'm going to get it as soon as possible because I think my daughter would absolutely love it She loves taking pictures with my phone and she loves pokemon. My daughter. My daughter loves it It I love pokemon snap and new pokemon snaps are really damn good That's all I'm gonna say guys. Well, maybe go and do more impressions in a separate video I did live stream it a little bit for you guys. It's not exactly like a kind of game It's good for live streams, but I will probably have an impression video coming out on that before e3 just because Guys it's been like what 20 years I don't do impression videos a lot before a game. I'm waiting 20 years for I'll give you an impression video. All right All right, uh next up, uh, this is stuff that's happening at monolith soft Guys know them see nobody chronicles also have a huge team that helps with zelva games, etc They have always a lot going on now their teams just been growing and growing and growing They have teams at different buildings and multiple studios under them now monolith soft is Basically, nintendo's second biggest development studio at this point just in terms of sheer employees Um, it's just wow And they do a great job as you see with their games doing really well and monolith soft is Constantly helping with nintendo whether it's a platoon or zelva or mario. They're always helping So it's like nintendo's go-to studio. Hey, we need help. Yeah, just here's some monolith soft guys Nintendo owns them. So they tell you what to do Um, that'd be it. So here's some details on what's happening at monolith soft corner this episode or two Uh, first off it says a new game is being developed by monolith soft. That's likely a new ip Uh, which we've known kind of sort about that for a while That's been speculations and rumors about this for a while hiring posts kind of referencing the potential new ip Um, so that's not necessarily new but what is new is that supposedly this new ip Monolith soft is collaborating with another developer on this ip Don't know who nintendo does collaborate new pokemon zap and enamco You know koi tekbo for the warrior games. So partnering with other studios, especially in japan is pretty common for nintendo so and You just mentioned all the different games that just from nintendo that monolith soft partnered with to help out on So they're used to sharing assets and stuff with the separate team as well Yeah, they're clearly very good at with partnering. So partnering on a new ip. That's always exciting Don't know if it's jrpg Is it going to be a new action adventure game is nintendo fine? They're going to have a second one that they could do something with Um, besides zelda. I think that would be sick This is just me hoping because monolith soft obviously clearly has a lot of experience with zelda now Be cool to see them do their own take But we'll see Now more than that This game is supposedly coming out this year or early 2022 I get a little nervous about these early 2022 things because every report room i see it's like Well, if it doesn't come this year, it's early 2022 and it's like, okay. How many things? So how many things are coming early 2022? Okay, yeah technically spittoon 3 was not stated to be coming early 2022 Maybe that's not till summer But like we presume breath of the wild will come out at least by early 2022 pokemon legends archies was stated publicly to be early 2022 So it's like man is like the first half of next year Potentially going to be the greatest half in like zelda history in uh, nintendo history My fans only do depends on how good breath of the wild two is and if that comes out then Yeah, but anyway, so that's just like a side note. It's kind of interesting that it's basically oh If it doesn't make it this year. It's early 2022. It's like I think that's just an easy Like lazy comment to me. It's easy to draw. I mean, I don't even think it's like I think it's more so. Hey look Here's like 10 titles that are coming between now and end of march 2022 Somewhere in there. They're all coming out. So to be safe We'll say they might be 2022 for all of them, but I know half of them are coming this year. I'm sure so Yeah, I think it's a lot of them would be coming if they're not coming this year It's early 2022 and not late 2022 because Which pro or switch to we having games coming late 2022 Right. Yeah, yeah Monolith is also working on a new xenoblade game. Don't think that's shocking Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was the best-selling one and a definitive vision came out for xenoblade chronicles And then that sold really well. I'm sure eventually maybe There's there's a little bit of controversy on why x hasn't imported yet But I'm assuming they're eventually going to port that over as well I might not be monolith soft spells porting it over, but a new xenoblade game's gonna work. That's I mean the franchise is growing So they're not just gonna stop growing. It's like the only jrpg nintendo really has its there as they fully own that um All right, and uh, the next thing from samus hunter was that there's going to be a new title From the team behind mario kart 8 and arms. So those who don't know the same team that made mario kart 8 made arms um, I was curious what this title was so I asked for some clarification On uh, I'm like, oh, is this like gonna be like a mario kart 9? Are we getting an arms 2 like or is this like a whole new ip from that team? Because maybe they thought arms wasn't wasn't you know, wasn't it didn't sell well enough Maybe they think mario kart 8's just gonna ride that for the next few years So maybe they're making another new ip, you know, hey, that's how we got splatoon, right? So What could it be working on and all samus hunter said is I don't think that it's a sequel to the mario kart series However, she does know that the mario kart series is one of those series that nintendo is very protective of not surprising Very important seller for them That they're going to be very coy and not so it could potentially be a mario kart 9 a lot of people hoping for mario kart 9 samus hunter is not saying that they're not making it She just doesn't get the feeling that they are but it's also something that she admits. She wouldn't be privy to if they were doing it so um She just knows there's something being made by them Uh, and what's interesting is I pressed further because I'm like, okay, you don't think it's that so it's arms 2 then, right? Like, you know, hey, you know for you guys might not think arms matters arms sold 2 million plus copies If you look at the average sales of fighting games That's really damn good fighting games aren't like smash bros is in a league of its own, right 20 plus million never happened before But if you look at street fighter 5 You know you go look at snk you go look at, you know all of the fighting games out there mortal combat None of them sell like 10 million. It doesn't happen You know most of them are lucky to break a million in sales So technically arms selling 2 million as a new fighting game ip is actually pretty good And it was when the switch was Was very low install base um, and you know, but Comparatively other games released that year that ended up before and after arms is sold a lot better So maybe arms just isn't Then maybe don't consider arms popular enough be now. There's been rumors on arms too for a while, but it's one of those small, you know Maybe just maybe arms isn't big enough because Everything else they released Good or bad blows up, but arms kind of just did okay. Yeah Well, you made it on this. Yep. Oh, sorry. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. I was gonna say one I know they're People At least on the marketing team of nintendo Absolutely love arms I mean, it's yeah arms is You guys see some of the funny videos they they were making in the back row They were fighting each other with the fake spring arms and then they also had one where they were Ran out the sub-tune things on their heads. Oh, is that nintendo's? Yeah, that was nintendo's pr Oh, yeah, this was years ago. It was hilarious. It was like tree house doing it or something. That was funny and the the second thing is With that rumor of working on a new ip wasn't there a news report or something that went out that said nintendo was going to start focusing heavily on new ip That came out just like a few days ago The same report that said That they're going to be updating their old games at that same time He said, hey, we're also going to be focusing on new ip so we can expand our stable of content Not just be reliant on the tent poles, which makes sense because nintendo is reliant on the tent poles And if you actually look at it, they do have a quite a variety of content on switch But still how many of it has zelda in his name or pokemon in his name or mario in his name? um You know, yes, you know blade. Okay split platoon. Okay animal crossing. Yeah, but like nintendo wants like 20 stable ip's because if they have that You won't get game droughts anymore. Right Because then they have franchises people care basically nintendo wants to keep finding that next platoon That next new ip that can get get big Miyamoto's official job at nintendo is literally to just come up with new ideas and innovations for new games or new types of games or new Mechanics for games that are currently being worked on like that's just his job. I think his his official title is like Oh, what was it mastermind? No, they've changed it a few times It's like senior creative The writer or something. I don't know. Yeah fellow. I don't know they've changed it I think it has like creative fellow in it and it's like he doesn't like he's not in charge of any series He's not like his it's it's just like i'm it feels like a made-up job where they're just like Good ideas And that's well, I've had a theory for a while That at this point because got Miyamoto's old guys most people are retired at his age Especially someone who's had the career he's had But clearly he loves gaming nintendo had an insanely huge insurance policy on Miyamoto. Yeah Because here's the thing and this has been my theory about Miyamoto for a long time Is that Shigeru Miyamoto? Yeah, because they have a huge they have a huge insurance policy on him because he's just he's such a legend in the industry Right, like he's the legend of legends. Okay at least for nintendo. I'm not saying there aren't other creators out there That are equally, you know as important But at the same point how many of them have theme parks built after their ip's And have their ip's as a mascot for the whole company A lot of those other Huge popular directors that are like popular on social media or whatever When they're being interviewed about who they look up to or are influenced by in the industry All of those people that make like middle gear solid or these other games that people love And they basically put these Developers on a pedestal because they make games that are so great As great as they are when they're asked who they look up to it's always Miyamoto Because Miyamoto guys is one of the pioneers Of legendary ip's not the pioneer maker of pong would be the pioneer, but But but he's there like he's he's he's at that level and beyond because he's done So much more than just a single Yeah, like and the thing is My my theory has always been the reason that there's such a huge insurance policy out on him And nintendo values him so much obvious reasons that nintendo values You guys think we value Miyamoto as fans Imagine what nintendo thinks of Miyamoto. Okay, whatever Miyamoto wants to do at nintendo He's pretty much going to get to do I mean there's even like stuff out there that the entire we u generation was literally because that's what sugar Miyamoto wanted Yeah, basically I'm like it didn't work But it's like that that exists that system is the way it is because that's what Miyamoto wanted and hence why Over time and nintendo is like, hey, you know you asked for this Can you like make some games that maybe prove the concept that you asked for because our developers aren't doing anything with it He had that weird robot game that he showed off at e3 He had that one mini game that turned into the star fox zero expansion disc or whatever the the camera game and all that So so the wood. Yeah No, what I was going to say is that I feel like nowadays and yes, I realized like supposedly Miyamoto worked on Pikmin 4 at some point that's done in somewhere in the dull drums of nintendo It might never release at that point it comes from Miyamoto himself. Yes. I don't Miyamoto is the one who said it guys So like he's kind of the one that's like, yeah, like I did this but like You'll get it soon. No, you won't it's soon a long time ago But I feel like on the scratch with the nx um Miyamoto at this point it's just a figurehead And that's not to discredit him. He should be retired But look at him Every major thing nintendo has going on Miyamoto's there financial meeting that's happening either tonight or tomorrow night. Miyamoto's there He has nothing to do with any of The actual ongoing inside nintendo really anymore beyond marketing But he's there because the investors want to see him Because he's that important like they'll be investors that they they're only going to make one investor meeting their whole life Because they're an outside investor like if you own stock in nintendo you can attend the investor meetings But how many people like in the u.s. And other countries are going to travel to japan just to attend the investor meetings, right? Like and you got you There's certain rules and certain honors and like you you have to wait your turn You might not even get a question in etc because the bigger investors are the ones that You know get the get the ask the question usually um But it's interesting because Uh, so you have that so he's always at those because the investors want to see Miyamoto because he's a legend Right, you know super mario world world opens up at universal studios. Miyamoto's there when it opens up down in orlando Miyamoto is going to be there whenever a big game that Miyamoto founded like the next breath of the wild game Well, agianomo is going to unveil it at some point when they're showing off gameplay. Miyamoto is going to be there Because He's a marketing person for them now. That's his job. I must say that he he's out of creative ideas Maybe there's something like if he if he thought you're sure for like, oh, hey, I got an idea for a game I want to try something he's going to get to do it. He's freaking Miyamoto. They're not going to tell him no But they might tell him no one consoles now though I got a feeling whatever crazy ideas he has for systems They'll they'll listen, but then they'll go to the developers and be like, what do you guys think? Yeah, no Then again, something tells me that they're covered for consoles for the next at least couple years here Well switch is going to be around for a little bit. I hope and they have their next gen system is The same vein as switch that they don't abandon this idea after one generation, but right um So yeah, I love Miyamoto inspiration for gamers and developers everywhere um Get into some more stuff here Uh, because we ended up at oh arms So I asked a little more details on okay as in arms too And all they all she would say is I can confirm that nintendo did try to do something else with the arm ip um If they are going to develop another game so basically saying hey She doesn't think that an arm a new arm game is being developed currently But that at some point they were playing around with something um to Have some sort of sequel or maybe it was going to be a dlc or something right there They were working on something related But she says that if they were to develop another arm game, however that she expects It would be something different from the game that released on switch So maybe like an homage to arms. That's a different kind of fighting game that maybe can be more popular. I have no idea That's all speculation at this point So basically she just knows that nintendo tried at one point to do something else and then that kind of got abandoned So whatever the team is working on is basically either mario kart 9 or a new ip That's what I get out of that So you made mario kart 9 there's hope you want a new ip from that team Obviously, there's hope I know you made the joke of the next game is going to be legs and then you're just going to keep going through body parts Yeah, you know, I could see all the heads heads are next. Yep. Yep, and then uh, Then they're going to come up to thumb wars thumb war It's this big giant battle arena and the two fighters are getting ready to fight each other Obviously they walk up to each other and just grab hands at thumb war By the way, shout out to taker 610 Uh, who caught her uh thing live and did a two dollar little super chat Uh, I bring here's the funny thing because he mentions that I would love a new wave race and punch out Which is dude, that'd be great. But here's the problem. This is the conundrum nintendo's in they have so many ip's they don't use anymore, right? How many times f0 get the man? How many times are you just trying to get mother 3 officially ported? You know, yeah, you could play roms that have been fan, you know But like an official version right like all these ip's snowboard kids. We were joking about that early snowboard like they have so many ip's So everyone's always demanding. We want these old ip's that we want kid at chris. We want this we want that and At the same point people are like, oh, can't we get something new from nintendo and it's like what? Like nintendo's a huge company, but like how many games do you guys realistically think they can develop at once? Yeah, like internally anyways not talking about they can obviously partner with a billion studios But internally because you know, they're always making pokemon that they have the pokemon company and game freak worried about that And then whoever they want a higher band and amco wherever else to do other games like a new pokemon snap So they have a company dedicated to that they have a team that's dedicated to basically nothing Mario now possibly dk, but there's a relation between dk and mario so that can make a little sense They have an entire team that does nothing but non-stop zelda games They obviously have hal who's spitting out curbie games every year So like they have teams all dedicated to pacific ip's and then they have retro studios that I guess doesn't know how to make anything but donkey kong and metroid since they just didn't release a game for like seven years And then they got metroid prime 4 So there's that um, I don't know what the hell's happening in retro I'm very curious about whatever projects they had that failed or maybe they will come out some down the line I don't know some development hell going on at retro studios, which makes me a little bit nervous on metroid prime But it's funny when you know, I get a super chat. Thank you so much for the two bucks. I appreciate the support Um, because again, what do fans always demanding? Oh, I want this game back I want that game back and Nintendo's like, but we want to make new ip's those old games They weren't popular enough We don't want to bring back the unpopular games. We want to establish the next platoon Because platoon is now clearly a staple. We're getting two games in one generation because it's that popular so Yeah, so it's cool that you guys want all these old games back. So do I always talk about bringing old games back We're gonna have an update on old games later. You guys are gonna be excited. I know some of you guys have been waiting All even game over jesse's like what the hell's happening a virtual console. What's going on? What's happening? What have you heard Nate? What's going on and I don't Jesse's heard a few things, but don't know if he's heard these things So this is gonna be whoo. I can't wait. That's gonna be one of the final Basically guys if you're waiting for the switch pro stuff you're waiting for Uh, um the the vc stuff that's that that's gonna be some of the last topics we talk about here. All right moving on down We are getting to our last topics Are you ready? We're gonna be talking about switch pro first You guys know the system we've been reporting on since 2018 Actually our first video ever was in 2017 That's like one report that floated out there that nintendo was working on hardware Well, I mean nintendo's always working on harbour always shantara furakawa said himself. They're always working on harbour A lot of said they're always working on harbour. So like when switch pro comes out Guess what they're already working on their next harbour. That's just they're already probably working on the next gen harbour after switch pro right now Yeah, probably so like that's just to be real here. Okay, but but We get some details here now if you're hoping for specs. I can tell you right now We're not getting specs in from this information. Okay So sorry, I know everyone wants the specs. What chip is in it? What's this? Sorry Again, that's information. That's pretty tightly controlled. We have some stuff out there OLED screen seven inches But we don't have exact like chip specs right from anybody. No one's reporting on it other than it'll have a 4k output When docked. Okay, cool Like how? Okay. Is it is a dlss? Is it don't know? Okay, but here's the details samus hunter said oh by the way, I totally forgot to talk about the new console Unprompted by the way, I didn't ask So samus hunter wanted me to have this scoop and I think it's because samus hunter feels very appreciative that Other people weren't giving samus hunter a chance despite the fact that she had so many things that she had gotten right And like everyone's like that's just another one of those twitter people. We can just ignore them and it's like Yeah, sometimes you can yeah Sometimes you can But samus hunter is getting too much right. This track record is too much right too much right to ignore And now that I know how they're getting and I've seen I get it I get it So enjoy it while it lasts because I presume the information highway to samus hunter too when their account finally blows up And they have like 15 20 000 followers. Nintendo's gonna clamp down That highway is gonna shut but enjoy it while it lasts I was surprised to hear the the zelda animal crossing stuff earlier because it makes me wonder if maybe The same person that talked to me also talked to her Because that was something no one that I knew but it's it's it's I'm just saying If samus hunter keep, you know, we're gonna keep talking about it. I'm just saying The clamps are gonna be coming down until not on samus hunter themselves But where they're getting the information from nintendo will start trickling see what so what I've been told From somebody else who has had a direct access to a nintendo employee before is what happened I don't know how they got shut down is that what nintendo eventually does when they're tired of the leaks Because they're not tired of the leaks of samus hunter is putting out there yet because nothing like Nothing that's a major Spoilery has come out from samus hunter right so clearly isn't privy like to say Somebody who's in the qa team playing breath of the wild to right now or something right like Clearly not Getting information from someone like that which would be very difficult anyways And if that ever got out the whole qa team might get fired Because nintendo ain't having that Like especially if jesse's guy is legitimately someone who is a translator there. Hey, they ain't messing around Okay, you're a qa tester. You leak information. You're gone Done um Anyway, so what's interesting here is That samus hunter can confirm that they are releasing a new switch model. So I mean Okay, whatever if you trust samus hunter This is finally a source that we I can literally know I literally know how they're getting their information So this to me is the first source I've been able to verify I Likely has real information here like okay. Yeah, we know about oh, they're talking to manufacturers for nick a or at bloomberg But we can't verify who they're talking to we have no idea. I know who samus hunter is talking to So This is already a big deal just to confirm. It's real to me. I've wanted it to be real now. I'm like, okay All right. This is this is now now Now all my speculation and all these reports is starting to become like washing over me. So first off Yes, it's real And no It's not a new generation. So people thinking oh, it's just going to be a next generation switch. No, no, no It's not it's a mid-gen refresh. It's a quote-unquote pro model. She says as the media is calling it She does not know the name of the app They are working on a couple revisions By the way, this is the new information All right, so there's going to be a more expensive model. This is the pro model that is going to have more features Whatever those features are I tried to pry on some of that getting some some details on that and better graphics visuals fps all that jazz Okay, you're talking switch pro. It's going to be more expensive than the current model So 350 399 people that thought hey, maybe they won't budge off the 300 and 200 and they'll just release that premium For 100 more sounds very very likely. All right, but here's what's going to happen They are going to replace the current switch and switch light with new models. So switch light would be v2 The nintendo switch base would be v3 because right. We already have v2 switch right now with the red box So there's going to be updated models for those price ranges at 300 and 200 now Listen to why that is happening And it makes a whole lot of sense That's something that we probably should have thought about a lot sooner, but it makes a lot of sense. So So the model for switch light and the normal switch will just improve on the current switch model But it's going to have some of the features that are in the more expensive model So some things in my mind If there's new joy con as an example These models will have the new joy con Stuff like that if This new model has an OLED panel Maybe that OLED panel is going to trickle down and replace in the next models So they too get the better colors all that jazz better battery life whatever so whatever features like that That can't that aren't directly related to more power Are things that are going to end up trickling down the line to new models. Okay, so In case you guys decide you want to trade in for just upgrading your current white or your current normal switch And you don't care about the 4k and all that cool Sounds like nintendo is going to have your back if you just want that OLED screen new joy con. All right But it says um that Well, they note that this is what they did with the original switch after the light came out Obviously the original switch used a shrunk down chip. So they took that shrunk down chip Put it in the normal switch better battery life version 2 there was a security reason I did that as well But all right, so then I ask, you know, okay, so I said, oh, it's a v3 model Okay, maybe you know, then I said, hey, what do you know what some of those features are? You know like new joy cons, you know the bigger screen like we've already heard of Um, and I said, hey, thanks for this information. You just made the podcast dream Debuting new info. Thank you so much. Um, so samus hunter goes that's right. It's important. This is This is something this is like a direct quote. She says From essentially inside nintendo like a corporate Mantra inside nintendo for what they're doing moving forward So she wanted me to make sure I quoted this word for words I'm going to read exactly what it said because this according to samus hunter is A big mantra inside nintendo for the pro and future things that's for at nintendo. That's right It's important for nintendo to have a budget model a family model That's right. They're calling the base switch a family model first time we've heard it called that And then the enthusiast model, which is what the media is calling pro on the market If they can find compromises that allow them to have the features of the new models on the old ones While maintaining the same cost and price they will especially if it comes To the hardware components to standardize production. So a lot of it is Standardizing production not making multiple different chips It's Doing what they need to do disabling clocks using the fall-off chips that don't don't meet the standards Okay, the aspect is important So please quote these exact words Nintendo said this themselves Okay So then i'm like, okay, so nintendo first time like let's just digest this for a moment. Okay This is the first time we've heard that nintendo is maybe calling the the the normal switch the family model That's nuts I mean it makes sense. Yeah, because you could take the joycons off and Does this mean like a pro model doesn't have detachable joycans an enthusiast model I But then like then would that just be a light but then The docks no, it's gotta be detachable. They gotta hey I mean it could just be the docus I mean it fits in the dock with the with the joycon. I mean non detachable joycons What if the more expensive model isn't like a separate switch at all? It's just a box that plugs into your tv I know i've been dismissing that as a possibility, but i'm like I mean that would definitely be an enthusiast model. That's for sure Yeah The only people that are going to care are gaming enthusiasts for that Yeah, but part of me is still thinking you're kind of getting away the core I mean granted sort of the light. I guess then so Of the switch Yeah, what's it matter? They already got rid of it with light. So what's it matter if they get rid of it with pro? You want your powerful box in one 3d 3ds Yeah, yeah, they got rid of the 3d and the 2ds even got rid of the clamshell for a bit the old the old door wedge I'm just saying I mean, I don't think that's what they're doing by the way I'm just and I'm not saying that's what sam is hunter is saying. I'm just saying that You know This does kind of make me think that what if if it's an enthusiast grade model But again, I'm pretty sure it's still going to be like a switch with a dock and everything. Um But I'm just it's very curious that they're saying a family model You know, and then you have the the budget model, which We always knew the light was a budget model. Basically. It's kind of like here's your kid We're on here's one if you're a dad when mom with the children and then like hey You pro gamers out there This is what you want. This is where you're gonna find to get your 60 fps breath of the loud too Or something like that. I can't imagine they're going about saying I was joking earlier 120 fps Yeah, no But let's set that aside bring you get no 120 fps games attachable pro controller What like a like a phone thing We're like clips on yeah A clamshell pro control I don't know I what if this is one thing I did think about though What if okay, so yeah, it's a normal like detachable joycon switch But what if the they're charging 399 it's more powerful You get your dlss you get your 4k output it adds, you know four more processing cores It adds four more gigs of ram at least Ups the memory from 32 to at least 64 if not 128 And then obviously with a with a new more modern gpu not necessarily the most powerful thing in the world But something that can definitely improve the output of games from nintendo hit that 60 fps Maybe even anti aliasing if nintendo decides to use it. What if In doing that They're actually going to And now that my train of thought is leaving the other side of my head for some reason What let me see what where was I going with this? I had I guys I had somewhere I was going with this and now it's going to come back to me tomorrow And I'll be like oh, I need to make a video on this because game over jesse is he honest the gpu the cpu and everything Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, what if they're gonna Remember enthusiast model Pack in a pro controller with it Yeah, so you don't have to buy that separate because it's an enthusiast model They intend for you to play it in dock, but you can take it on if you want Yeah So this is like the hey the family model is we know you're playing it mostly portably But hey you can dock it and play it with your kids This model is like we've intend you to mostly play this in dock, but you can take it with you Yeah Get rid of the dog ears. Yeah, it's kind of like yeah, like we we intend for you to play this dock however You know You want take it on the plane you can etc Which also means it could not it might have really bad battery life, too. I have no idea That's another thing to consider too, right Um, so any thoughts on this information? This is switch pro stuff Anything you want to add game over jesse. I know you have your own sources over there on things No, I I haven't heard anything about the Switch pro, but it reminds me uh when I talked to When I want to talk to a localization guy um, I'll I'll ask about if During any of the the localization process if there was uh Like new buttons or references to like a different switch model in there or something new resolutions Yeah, was it running? If it's being localized like that stuff would show up in the options you would think To switch from maybe like a switch pro mode or whatever. I don't know like how A lot of ps4 pro or xbox one x or even the newer consoles has the option to switch from like frame rate to um resolution and With the the 4k stuff on nintendo games. It doesn't take nearly as much processing power to run Nintendos games their first party games at the same Resolution and everything that you would see a ps4 game running like If they're both running at If you take a ps4 game and a Nintendo switch game and they're both running at the same resolution the same frame rate So they're equal there the amount of processing power it would take for the ps4 game is A lot more than the switch games. So with the ps4 pro or the xbox one x They were their mid-gen consoles or whatever so Uh, compared to like the newer consoles. They're not even really that powerful because They're not able to even run a lot of the games at full 4k a lot of it's like checkerboarded or whatever But there are a few games that do run at 4k on the like the ps4 pro or the xbox one x The gpus that's in those consoles you can buy really cheaply For like a computer so if nintendo went out to purchase Like a mass stockpile of those types of gpus to put in a switch pro It really wouldn't be costing them that much more than they're probably already paying for the current apu and um The processing power it would have they could even buy a cheaper one than the ps4 pro and it would easily Be able to run like mario odyssey or breath of the wild at 4k and 60 frames. That's not counting Any dlss or trickery or checkerboarding. No just full 4k 60 frames Because the nintendo games Really do not take that much power to run them when you compare it to The same generation of ps4 games or xbox one games so people thinking that the The nintendo switch pro or nintendo switch 2 would have to be really expensive to run nintendo games in 4k. No Not at all It would be very cheap for nintendo to do this Especially since the gpu that's in the ps4 pro and the xbox one x Those are gpus that are like years old now If nintendo bought a new processor that was on par with that they could buy like a low to mid-gen processor that would be just as powerful As that mid to high end processor from four years ago or however long ago it was that those consoles released So that that's one thing that i wanted to add is that everyone's saying that it would be super expensive No, it would be cheap. It would be incredibly cheap It probably be the processors in those systems are eight years old They actually are they're actually technically Worse processors than are what's in the switch currently. There's just more of them That that's a crazy thing like everyone always makes fun of the switch and it's like well, do you enjoy playing in playstation 4? Yeah, well, okay that tech is even older than what's in switch So why you can plan to know the switch because it doesn't output the same visuals. It's using mobile tech Which has always been behind because of thermals Behind what's happening in a console space or in a obviously PC space as well. I think what's interesting though Is you know you mentioned those are they are really old and mobile has way surpassed the capabilities I mean just look at if you just look logically like look at what's happening with the apple m1 chip People are editing for video footage with that You can buy new gaming tablets that are more powerful Tablets again gaming tablets that are more powerful Than the playstation 4 pro. Yeah Not they're expensive But yeah, they're out there. Those are the tech the tech exists So nintendo doesn't have to go for those kind of space as much as I would buy a thousand dollar switch And maybe if I pay for half of it, I can convince eric to get A thousand dollar switch. Yeah, um, maybe I'll get a sponsor. That's sponsors. I think But that's the thing that I was saying though is I think nintendo could Get this processor to make it on par with the ps4 pro Still sell it at the same price the current switches and make profit. That's how cheap it would be for them to do this Yeah, and what we have to know is that um, there's that one report out there that uh, they Nvidia themselves they want to kind of phase out the tag or x1 processor At least certain versions of it Maybe not every version right away because nintendo still wants, you know, the newer Shrunk down one, but I think Nvidia is trying to like convince nintendo. Hey, you need to get off this process Um, it's taking a great video talking about that. Didn't yeah, I did yeah Like like it sounds like they're not getting rid of all the taker x1s. They're getting rid of the og taker x1 They're going to be done making that which they were using still in some of the shield tv's And the shrunk down one they're not getting rid of it yet But it sounds like they want to get rid of it within two years So they're kind of giving nintendo A runway to be like hey look we we obviously Nvidia knows what's going on because they're probably the chip makers behind the new switch And they're going to be like hey, we want you to switch to this for everything Get off of this like eight, you know 16 nanometer 20 nanometer chip that we're like we don't want to make this anymore It's taking up semiconductor space. It's taking up manufacturing lines that we can make more chips For cheaper and make them quicker if you would just switch to a newer technology Which I think Nvidia is pushing them I didn't nintendo is complying with the pro and I think that's why you see samus hunter bring up Hey, the goal is even if it doesn't happen ASAP like if the pro comes out before they update the other models It's going to be one of those eventually but they are going to update the other models And they're are going to use like they're all the technology is essentially going to be The same it's just the chips just like you see with you know different different cpu's and computers right You know rising 5000 rising 5600 5700 x 5900 like there's different tiers But that's all the same architecture and I think that's what they're trying to get that in terms of the switch over to is I think nintendo is just waiting on pricing right like I think they know we could do the more powerful switch at 400 But it's hard for us to switch out the hardware Yet in the og switch and the switch light If we have to raise the price to compensate So I think I think nintendo is like okay nvidia like How many years until you can get that price down? Oh, is it just one year? Are you telling us by the end of 2022 you can have the price down? Okay, we can maybe switch swap hardware then or something So that's what that's what the feeling I get from this um That strategy nintendo has had in the past of like trying to get the cheapest thing out As possible. Yep while still having quality Yep, and nintendo cares very deeply by the way Um, and this is one reason why we're maybe even getting a switch pro Also, the fact that nintendo has a history especially with handhelds of releasing more powerful systems later I mean going back to the dsi even before that game boy color Game boy color needed more power to produce those colors Yeah, while the games maybe didn't graphically look better They need to use that power to help push colors out. So And I want to say really quick Um, I won't go through all of them, but aside from the wiiu every single handheld And home nintendo console has either had a second version that was like an upgrade for it Like the game boy to the sp or game boy to the or advanced to the sp ds to the si Whatever or it had an optional way that they meant to upgrade it like the sms with the Televue the n64 with the disc drive And even like back in the nest days, right like they this wasn't necessarily more power They they didn't necessarily have like more powerful hardware But they changed how the hardware worked from like top loader to side loader trying to get like the game So, you know like you guys know how you get a wiggle and blow in the games And they always said don't do that But like that would be the only way you can get your nest games to work even back then Like nintendo improved upon that with different designs over time with the hardware to kind of change How the hardware interacts with that cartridge to try to make it a cleaner connection every single time Yeah, yeah, it's funny because like we complain about it, but to this day like You know nests still work Many other systems don't so I mean Clearly as much as it might suck to blow in the cartridge or wiggle or have to get some isopropic alcohol on acute I'm about to watch Hey, you know what it still works. So yeah, they built something that lasts You might have to change the batteries out on some of the cartridges To keep game saves, but I mean that's just battery life. That's normal. At least it's not like PlayStation with the CMOS Let's not let's not go down that road poor poor sony that built systems that I they just intentionally don't want to last So you have to buy the new ones So that's That's the reason that I'm I'm 100 behind you on this one Nate because Again aside from the Wii U every single console has had a way to upgrade it add features Or whatever we listed a bunch of them, but even the game cube that a lot of people don't think about It had expansions to add online Uh multiplayer it had expansions to let you play the game boy advance games It had other random weird expansions DVD version in japan maybe Yeah, so like every literally every single console So for the the new nintendo fans that are like oh nintendo would never do something like that or all the people Like oh nintendo would never release a switch light And then they release the switch switch it doesn't switch I remember eric and I say that sounds dumb and to this day. I still don't want to switch light by the way I still think it's dumb. Yeah, but for 200 bucks. That's why I'm behind now that I have kids You know what right? They should be playing $200 switch. Like they don't care about playing on tv, right? But for me, I'm sorry switch it doesn't switch Ask next You said I told you Or or the the enthusiast model doesn't switch Like a zelda switch like you're in a video and use it as a prop Yeah, yeah, but set it up on the desk for for the podcast. Here you go. Um, all right, so The last uh subject we have at least from samus hunter because I do want to briefly talk about the game that nintendo dropped on us today And why it caught people off guard and why maybe it probably shinto caught you off guard And why so many people don't understand it or know what the hell it is, but we'll get into that in a bit. Um, because Are you a real nintendo fan if you don't know about this game? You don't know what it is because I mean Am I gonna put that out? Am I gonna put that on the fans and start judging them? Are you really a fan? You're into what you're into you're not into what you're not into. I can't blame you for not trying things Um, but we have information on virtual console You heard me right. No, no, no nintendo switch online. What's that? Trash throw it out probably nothing after this throw it out. It's garbage Nobody wants it nintendo's not gonna run in nintendo switch online Fundamental changes are in the works Again according to samus hunter So Here's what happened. All right. Oh, oh one last note. Hold on. I forgot Because I asked about switch pro like release timing, right? You know because like I'm like, okay, you know, I get it. Do you don't know like specs or anything? You at least know like release timing and they said it was originally planned for this fiscal year Supposed to be late 2021 could be delayed to 2022 It that what they are waiting on right now with the switch pro is they are about to go into mass production this summer Which that lines up with bloomberg talking about when they were gonna get those old ed screens mass production in like june or july So, okay, so they're gonna start making, you know Million units a month or something starting in july or whatever. Okay, fine Getting ready for launch. Here's the thing The nintendo is waiting. So this is why samus hunter is saying we are we if you think we're hearing about switch pro d3 samus hunter is saying probably not nintendo could change their minds but probably not Because and according to what samus hunter has heard nintendo was waiting to see if there's hiccups once they hit mass production They want to make sure when they announce this That they could definitively say it's coming now and not have a covet related delay. They're gonna have a stop They're gonna have the stock for the people that want it. Yeah, basically they have the orders on hand Like that the orders are in they're supposed to get x amount But what happens if one of the machines goes down what happens if covet shuts down the factories again? Like there's unknown factors right now the nintendo is waiting to make sure That's taking care of this doesn't mean there won't be shortages Doesn't mean it won't be scalped up Sculpt the hell doesn't mean you're gonna be able to find one day one because we all know what happens with launch systems This happened even before covet. It's just worse with covet, right? So Again nintendo is in a wait and see to see if there's any hiccups once they start mass producing Assuming there's no hiccups this holiday if there is some hiccups early 2022 but Here's another reason that that we won't hear that they don't think we're gonna hear about e3 Said don't expect any announcements of e3 the plans were about the announcement From what she has seen are supposed to happen this summer. So it is supposed to get announced this summer June technically would be this summer but they are wanting games already announced and presented Known by the public ready to go that they can then tout when they reveal this system Look at how much better this game is on this system So what they're saying is they want e3 to come so they can they can show you breath of the loud too So they could show you other games coming later this year and then in july or august You know, I think september to be honest because that's around the time they announced the light then they released it two months later I think it's going to be a similar thing to that if it does come out this year Nintendo wants to wait you're all hyped you have your pre orders in and then they're going to be like Oh, by the way Hey, you're hyped for breath of the loud too. Don't worry. Oh gee switch player. You're you can play it. It runs great Everything you saw on this game at e3 that you love so much was running on a normal switch But now you can get 60 fps. Nintendo did have something big planned for this summer after e3, wouldn't it? So then Now here's breath of the loud too. And by the way, oh, why do we care about the pro model? Oh, Nintendo's just going to casually throw a 4k out there. They won't explain That, you know, it's like dlss, but they'll make you think it's native You know, they'll pull the the playstation 5 box that has 8k on the box and you're realistically Not going to get 8k. Who has an 8k monitor or tv? It sounds like the super rich right Like no one's even going to experience 8k content and the system let's i'm going to be honest with you guys The playstation 5 next by series x barely have enough power to actually do native 4k Don't even worry about 8k. Okay, don't 30 90s that are 1500 dollar gpu's that are significantly more powerful than what the playstation 5 next by series xr Can't really do 8k well, so Just say let's It's all marketing spoof, but you're going to see nintendo toss out 4k and you're going to say, oh, it's 30 fps on the normal switch 60 locked On the new and that's the marketing pitch nintendo actually using graphic capabilities And fps capabilities, which is one is nintendo ever now once the last time we remember nintendo is play with power Who was that gamecube days m64 days actually There was an interview with reggie on like abc Like good morning america or something where he actually bragged when the Wii first came out Saying that it was the most powerful system or console that was out at the time at the time it technically could could argue it was It could argue it was It's not weaker. It's a different architecture Which made it more difficult to think about So the Wii U had three cores But each of those individual cores Were a lot more powerful than each of the individual cores in the playstation 4 or the xbox one It was just they had eight cores where the Wii U had three So even though each core was more powerful The total sum of those eight cores ended up being far more powerful than just those three So while we're still technically on the on the top of the switch pro We had a couple five dollar superchats pop off from uh nintendo academy Um one of them said I don't think it's going to be called the switch pro I'm thinking more like switch pro or switch plus uh graphics screen size and who knows what else so Basically a bigger screen size better graphics and who knows what else and then it'll be called like a switch plus I'm thinking I mean, I hate to say it but do nintendo switch Yeah, or new nintendo switch xl or something like I just talking about the family model and stuff that would have Or that could potentially have some of the upgrades from the switch pro but in like just changing the base model I could see that being called the new switch Since it would be Similar upgrades to that like 3ds and 3ds, but the new 3ds was a more powerful model. That's my point Yeah, they actually had just a separate thing that was just 3ds xl and then they had the new nintendo 3ds xl Yeah, yeah, the 3ds has so many revisions guys 3 3ds was nuts and if they're doing that with switch, I'm on board Um Nintendo academy they had another five dollar super chat uh happening live This is live you guys are listening uh to this on all of our places that we had the podcast available Which is pretty much everywhere. Um You know the podcasts are available. Sorry. You didn't catch it live We will probably have a couple more live podcasts before e3 You're gonna want to tune in for e3 I'm gonna be talking about the e3 stuff here and a bit what's happening here some of the sponsors We have what you guys can expect all that jazz, but let's get to nintendo academy's five dollar super chat It says great discussion nintendo is in my opinion the most innovative gaming company of the three and I I think we know what the three means for the home console companies You could just look at their consoles and the controllers I think the controllers You know, it's kind of a sidebar just because it was brought up in a super chat But I think the controllers have always been Ever since they they kind of got to gamecube, right? Which is sort of like what we have on switch at this point. It's sort of like the standard controller at that point Uh, moving forward for everyone slight variations sticks offset not offset, etc nintendo has done some interesting things with the wimote and all that but I don't know that these like in these quote-unquote innovations that nintendo does with the controllers I mean we're in let's think about this. We're in 2021 and what's the best controller to use with the switch A standard controller pad just like we did back on the gamecube So like for as innovative as nintendo is bottom line is all those innovations have kind of been flashes in the pan They don't stick They don't last So like as much as it's cool. It happened like lightning in a bottle, you know as an example with the we stuff doesn't last like What sticks around is what people like people like traditional controls That's not saying that things haven't happened like because of nintendo You know, we have gyro aiming with a pro controller like that's so cool Yeah, like not nintendo specifically the at I mean they do it in splatoon But other companies take advantage of the gyro aiming now So sometimes there's fps games on switch that have gyro aiming that aren't on the other systems that don't have gyro In their controllers So like that's a really cool thing that other companies are starting to add those features as well And obviously like the PlayStation 5 dual sense controller is probably one of the most Innovative controllers of the modern like if you think of a modern age controller, you know, because this is like when you talk about nintendo with controllers They've done a lot of like one-off experimentation, but bottom line is They always come back home because coming back home is where we want to be I think the most innovative controller at the moment is dual sense Because it didn't take away what you love about the controllers, right? It's still a standard controller and if you just want to use it that way you can But it took that experience to the next level and if you don't own a PlayStation 5, which Let's be honest Maybe five people in our audience do You might not understand what i'm talking about But the rumble it makes hd rumble and switch look like a toy The rumble is so much better so intuitive you could feel grains of sand Trickling through the controller Grains of sand forget shaking ice cubes with your with grains of sand The pressure What do they call them the pressure on the um on the triggers Insane Now yes, the controllers the triggers especially aren't built the last they used a plastic spindle gear It there's already people who have broken it That's one thing sony doesn't necessarily build things to last but You are talking about innovation That is where controllers need to be going Xbox same old controller Nintendo same old controller. I mean there's not what's so different between the standard way we play with switching the wu pro controller Not a whole lot Now i'm not saying there's not extra features there is hd rumble as an example. I'm just saying that like I don't think the controller Things that nintendo has done since they got to the standard of a gamecube has mattered anything else they've experimented with has been just that It doesn't stick But that's that's that's my opinion. I don't know. What do you guys think? That's my take I think the You mentioned the rumble being a lot better on the the playstation 5 controller And that could just be to where there's more space in it to have better like a better quality rumble if The switch pro came out. I would like to see it have an innovative controller but one that is still like a traditional controller like the playstation 5 or the Even the the pro controller on the switch now, but having more innovations like taking the triggers away from the main controllers No, it's horrible and then you put sunshine on the console But you don't let it have the like it just doesn't make sense. Yeah, it was weird I mean to a certain extent though like with the hd with the the rumble and stuff like that. I mean Wasn't in nintendo that came up with it. It's sony just kind of took that and kind of made it a little bit better So you could argue that nintendo had the innovation Sony just made it better Well, yeah, but I mean so but look at like this nintendo gets credit A lot of credit for this hybrid concept of home console on the go But also being able to use it with your tv. They didn't originate that idea. It's been around for a while. Heck the vita could do it Is it like sony came up with that if you want to give anyone credit sony did Right, but and they didn't technically even do it first. This whole idea has existed. I mean technically Um, I don't know if you guys are aware of this There was a thing called the nvidia shield not the tv The actual there was an actual portable system that could also hook up to your tv from nvidia using the same tech that's in switch before switch It just didn't take off. It didn't have the brand recognition didn't have the the ip's to push it So I could connect to your computer to stream games from your pc as well. I think yep. Yep So like I'll even a lot of the innovations that like nintendo is credited for Mmm, they were just perfecting ideas that were already out there like I know rumble is interesting because I don't know how much rumble is really advanced until we got to hd rumble Um, and the reason people usually don't care what hd rumble is there is so few games that they actually take advantage of it Try to use it. Um, they just treat it like standard rumble So like for most of the switch games we play We don't really even notice. I mean the game that the game that it really stands out on there's like, uh One two switch. Yep, which I mean most of you guys haven't played so it is what it is Uh, can't blame you. It's actually a really fun party game. But again It's you know, it should have been it should have been bundled that should have been bundled in with the system And then everyone we play and everyone would understand what hd rumble is um And then uh, there's been a couple indie games that have used it very well that it actually adds to the immersion But if you think about all the biggest games that switch mario odyssey, you know smash Nintendo's not even using it. Yeah, like Nintendo doesn't really even use it. It's kind of like the Wii U Gamepad like oh, we have the second screen like what we'll slap our inventory on it. Okay, but like We were seeing all these cool ideas before and none of them came to fruition Your developers don't even really want to use this thing. No, so it's like, oh, we have hd rumble But did you talk to your developers and if they actually It feels like one of those ideas they tacked in just like the ir camera Like did you actually talk to your developers and be like do you actually want this? You're right and I get it the ir camera was technically also used in labo Um it with the camera accessory, but even then It it's it's vr. You could just use motion controls. You don't really need the ir camera. Yeah You can just do gyro for that so I Like I feel like some of the Nintendo tax in these ideas and I'm wondering if like My theory is okay. They wouldn't let they wouldn't let me a motor design the system But he wanted hd rumble and he wanted that ir camera so they threw it in You know where they could have removed them and gave us, you know something else or a headphone jack But yeah You know what would have been actually really kind of cool though is like in breath of the wild when you're when you're running around You could feel the footsteps in the in like the vibrate, you know when you're walking like an astral's playroom That's what it is. You can tell when you're running on glad and what's really cool Okay, this is something also that we need to give By the way, not the first time it happened. There's a speaker I'm the dual sense controller And so like not only do you feel the texture of what you're running on you can hear the little tink tink tink tink The little splash splash splash and the one and it just it's this whole immersive Experience that I want in breath of the wild right and I want to feel the world I'm in You know like if if like hyenax chuck something at you and it hits the ground next to you Why is it why is some low some low rumble as your character's going like this? The low rumble like your character's why do you not feel on the ground? I mean There's so much stuff that they could do and then maybe they with her nature rumbly. Yeah, and maybe they will I doubt it. But I doubt it. I think they've written it. I've they've written it off. Oh, yeah We'll just but use it like basic rumble Uh Just just thinking of that though makes me Uh, so kevin phillis points out the gba connected to the tv ages ago Um, do you mean like in games like four swords adventures? I don't remember gba directly connecting unless you mean the uh attachment thing to like the consoles But maybe there was was there I could I could be misremembering. I don't remember outside of games like four swords adventures where you plugged it directly into gamecube Right that they're actually like you could play gba games on a tv besides a separate attachment To the systems. I I personally don't recall it. Maybe you're right kevin phillis. Thank you so much for the two dollars I don't know everything right. I'll always limit that How much longer can we string out not talking about virtual counsel? For as long as I want, baby So many people want to know where where's the bc talk? What is happening hate not us right? No No, okay. All right. All right. All right Should we finally get them what they want? I don't know. Are you guys ready? Are you guys ready to talk about virtual counsel because I'm you guys are gonna be excited You guys are gonna be like No way. No, n- n- nintendo won't do that. Nintendo doesn't get modern technology Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing. Have you seen the nintendo? Have you seen the lack of the ability even with a phone app to voice chat that you can't text people On your friends list on switch. Have you seen that nintendo has no idea? What the hell they are doing with their online matches and smash girls look at the dcs How the heck are they gonna have a smash tournament at d3 when they got to do it all online? And it's just gonna be non-stop dc fest or you're gonna see people lag it across the screen on purpose to get wins Yeah How the hell could nintendo actually do something good with the virtual console hell was virtual console ever good Remember you bought the games individually every generation Every generation. Oh wait you you could go into we mode You want to play it on your wii you pay an upgrade fee. Okay, so i'm just rebuying the game. Yeah, cool So the title doesn't get it right they're asked backwards. They don't know what they're doing Well, here we go I Okay, so i'm i'm even a little bit. So both age i'm reading this and i'm like i'm in disbelief But then i start thinking about what they've been doing lately With the current instead of switch online servers with the nests and steps happen. I started to go Yeah, it's lining up. Okay. Maybe I shouldn't have been given nintendo as much flak for not updating those apps as often Here we go So samis hunter says i got this information in october And i haven't gotten any updates since it doesn't mean it's not happening It could just be something that's a little bit ways off But there are plans for paying For individual games to have them unlimited when it comes to the nests and snests so The plan is supposed to be that by the end of this year nintendo was going to launch systems beyond the nests and snests So n64 and systems. So are we getting game boy? Would they dare go gamecube? We they have a lot of they have a huge back catalog right that is just Sitting there not being touched. All right And they're going to make it available on switch, but they're going to do it through What samis hunter is calling a brand new virtual console? However, they aren't going to use the vc name. They feel like the vc name has its own separate reputation What they're doing with nintendo switch online has its own different reputation. It's going to be something new It's going to have a new name. Okay. It's going to be a separate service From what's happening with switch online and what happened with old school virtual console. So let's get more into this, okay So they're going to be adding more systems more games They're going to be allowing you to purchase those games individually sounds like virtual console, right? What's the big deal? All right, so here's the deal It says nintendo has long been thinking about how to expand Subscription services to have a steady influx of revenue But nintendo also feels it's important to not limit the supply of games to a single method of obtaining them And this is because they have seen the backlash in other parts of the industry That everything's locked behind a paywall service and you don't own it So nintendo wants to give you the old school way that you could still buy these games Or subscribe to our service So i'm like, okay So I said so I said the salmon center. So to summarize the virtual console stuff They're looking to expand the current service in the more systems and either keeping it part of the switch online Since that's already a service they have or separating it out and then I mentioned, you know Kind of like what microsoft does a game pass not exactly game pass because game pass gets obviously brand new games But it does have a back catalog of old games as well Um, and then I'm like, oh they're looking to offer these games for individual purchase as an option Which is also true with game pass and he says yes, but I'm to be clear nate This will not be tied to nintendo switch online. This will be its own separate service separate subscription service with optional ways to purchase every game individually And it's going to include nes snes n64 gamecube gameboy gameboy advance and ds Oh boy mic drop Now Does note that's not necessarily all going to be there right away at launch obviously nintendo is going to trickle at but mic drops don't work with boom arms No, no mic drops don't want to the boom arm don't want to go the boom arm don't want to go so couple things here one I know that nintendo is getting rid of nintendo switch online Um, I don't know if they're going to keep the nes and snes things on there as like a legacy Um, which they might just keep it on there's a legacy thing But obviously there's a couple things here one nintendo will now have two subscription services, right? You ought to switch online and then you have the optional I mean switch online is optional unless you want to play online Yeah, I was going to say they're still going to need to switch online because yeah if you want to play They're not going to get rid of that option. Yeah, I mean Yeah, if you want to play I mean you play fortnite without it, but like yeah, you can do that on other systems too You want to play online? Which is like on the other system. I don't know if playstation does it but xbox has multiple subscription services Like you can get their gold membership or you can get the playstation has um playstation actually has a similar um So there's uh, there's there's psm psm plus um Which which psm plus is how you get your they're they're like free games to give you every month You get you get psm plus and then there is a separate. I forget what it's called. There's a separate service That well they used to have another service for tv stuff. They don't have that anymore now, but um I think they're actually trying to bring it back or something else But they have a separate service that you could play their old-school retro games over streaming Okay, so playstation 1 playstation 2 playstation 3 you could stream some of their games and they have a service for that So it's kind of like an xcloud, but it's just for their retro games um So they also have multiple subscription services Microsoft obviously does as well. We got xbox live And then you got you know xbox live gold. I should say and then they have Gamepass and then they're gonna have xcloud. So that's gonna be three different services. Although if you get I think it's xbox Gamepass ultimate they call it That combines gold and ultimate together for a slightly cheaper price So you save money if you just bundle it together and I'm sure that's gonna be true with xcloud They're probably gonna have another tack five dollars on more now It's 20 bucks a month and you can have cloud gamepass and gold together or something I'm I'm presuming that's right now xcloud's free and everything that it's on but it's in beta I that's not gonna I highly don't Microsoft and just offer that service for free. They could because they could say hey Yeah, you could access xcloud for free, but like you want to play all our games gotta get gamepass But so to support your leak There is a history of Other consoles now. Thank you so much. No, I hank on the chat. Thank you so much. It's called ps now. That's the Game, sir. Yeah, that's where you stream the games, right? Or am I mistaken? Nope. That's that's the game streaming for sony. Yeah But yeah, uh, so there's a history already set with the other consoles Have already been doing this so it would kind of make sense that nintendo would follow along But nintendo never found every other main console doing it then That's the thing nintendo doesn't do this though And the thing is well, they I feel like okay if nintendo is gonna do a gamepass like thing I mean, where's where's the catch? Yeah, there's there's always a catch with nintendo and online anything So like where's the catch and right now some people in the chat are like, oh the catch is oh my god I gotta pay for two subscription services instead of one. Oh my god Did you really think you were gonna get n64 gamecube des gameboy advance? Maybe we in the future for ten dollars a month or three dollars a month or whatever it is Did you really 20 bucks a year? Did you really think that you were gonna get those on nintendo switch online at that price? Yeah, no I mean, let's be real here and what to be cool if you don't want to pay to play games online That hey, you could still pay to access nintendo's retro library Now my my curiosity and samples that are didn't get back to me I was saying hey, is there a plan to make this forward compatible because that's the big thing I want to know like Okay, if you get the service obviously the service is forward compatible They'll just carry over the service to the next system But if you buy the games individually like virtual console, can you carry those over? Like is that something nintendo's thinking about solving the problem they have a virtual console in the past Didn't get a response to that yet probably because the details aren't known yet. It's pretty early But supposedly supposed to be launching this fiscal year and I would assume that was supposed to be like a big feature launch with switchprobe and like hey Or just slamming you this way. This is this is huge. Is that their e3 announcement? I mean, I could see them announcing the new service at either because it's not going to affect game sales. Right um Yeah, it would be Uh, I don't know never mind. It's the last 20 minutes of their of their presentation No, I was gonna say like if they had something else like maybe after e3 during the summer. Yeah, true. I mean Well, there's gonna be more directs and I mean we told well as we saw it They did an incident earlier this year and they said in that direct at the end We're gonna have more of these this year. So like they were kind of letting people know. Okay last year was kind of like a fluke Covid we're back. Yeah, we're back, baby. We're gonna have more of them this year. So and then what happened, you know What we have they're back at e3 Which by the way for the for it's funny because like unless you attend in person e3 from nintendo really shouldn't feel any different Mm-hmm. Right. I mean besides not seeing a crowd in the background like yeah It nintendo is already built for this for a digital e3 It does suck in person's great. Obviously get to see game over jesse in person instead of having to go through discord Get to you know Play games hands-on impressions of games like the like it's sad That if breath of the wild 2 is coming out this holiday instead of next holiday that I don't get to play it in person Right, I would have got to play it in person this year. Damn it. Oh, right I don't know if they would do it, but at past the 3s nintendo always had a Like some weird deal with best buy to where you could go. Yeah play some of the remote games at best Yeah, they've been they were doing that lately Yeah, not all of them just select. I could see them maybe doing that, but then again, I don't know Yeah, that's why I don't think yeah They might they might start too risky of a pr move to do that this year Um, they they couldn't have like a limited like here's a demo that you can download, but it only Yeah, I I think you know like they have a metopia demo right now I I think nintendo is going to lean more towards hey, we're going to really focus hard on getting game demos out this year that you could play at home To kind of make up for the fact we can't do those public things. We can't do e3 So while like we typically would never give you a zelda demo We'll give you a zelda demo and your prog it'll be the opening area and your progress will carry over to the game or something Yeah Yeah, like the age of calamity. They did something like that age of calamity And I think that's kind of the I think nintendo foresaw that because that happened last year or it's like hey You know at least for the next year or two Let's give people demos at home that carry over metopia stuff carries over like so It's kind of like I think nintendo's kind of getting that flow where no You might not necessarily get a bunch of demos to play journey three. Okay. Don't expect that but But you very well might get you know Demo's trickling out throughout the year before games come out that you'll be able to try I don't know if they're going to give you a demo for zelda. That would be very unusual because they've never done that But we are also in we're in uncharted territory. So With a zelda game at least anyways, so thoughts guys on this Supposed plan for nintendo's virtual console. Yeah future. What are your thoughts on it? Because this fundamental change over everything anything they've ever done. This is almost like giving everyone what we asked for originally But now giving it to us after we got used to just paying for a switch online Go for it jessie Yeah, I was just going to say really quick I I think it's an amazing idea if they do it and especially if they do it's separate from The online service for the people that just don't care about playing online But they would care about playing the games from their childhood without having to deal with like the online service and stuff So I think that would be Uh, really really great for them And especially if they go back to some of them and add in weird features like they updated some of the games on The online service to add like online multiplayer or something Yeah, like Like having double dash like A game game with online like that would be insane and if they put it on there for like 20 or however much It would sell almost as much as like a normal traditional game would and it would just be A quick online update for an emulated game basically Nice, maybe it's a bit more complicated But it it's just taking the same idea they had with the NES and super nintendo games and then applying it to n64 Or gamecube games that that's what I would love to see from it But the idea in general from what Nate says is really good I'm looking forward to it if they do do it and hopefully there might be uh If there's not time for it at a three or something then maybe some event after e3 during the summer uh, you know Super excited if it actually, you know comes out the way that it kind of sounds like it's gonna come out But to a certain extent until I see it come out the way, you know, we hope when it's coming out It's nintendo. So I'm always kind of waiting for the butt to drop and uh you know, oh, isn't it that's kind of like with uh Mario golf super rush like it looks great. Where's the butt? Where's the butt? Yeah And there was a boat with super mario party. It looked great. Right mario tennis ace is fantastic We played already three. Oh my god. This is amazing. And then you play the single player and you're like, oh, there's the butt There's the butt and nintendo sometimes has has been known for their butts and so Um Greatest tune in to e3 2019 if you think that's our 2019 2021 so look at that. Yeah tune in live Yeah, tune in live for 2019. That's impressive if they can do that. I know, right? Um, but uh, you know until it actually comes to fruition and we see What it is for what it is There's always that part of me and I hate to be cynical, but at the same point in time. That's kind of who I am um it I'm waiting for the butt And what a nice but it will be Yeah I have a feeling that you know, is it going to be Again, kind of I know they're switching to new server tech So is this server tech going to be? you know Better than what you know, they're they're and it works really well in my eyes um So, you know, but they got to get to that point They'll where they're they're fully towards that though before I think they can release this because On their old server tech, I don't know if they can handle the amount of Hit in that server Who says they even use the same? I mean, I have a feeling they would just team up with google or microsoft And that very well be it could be possible to provide any sort well It's not a streaming service though, right? It right. It's a subscription server You still download like an app like we have now to access them all true. They're still technically all downloaded on your system true But I don't yeah, I don't know It's been a lot of talk about that weird partnership with microsoft and everyone's partnering into getting Ideas or tech from them to help out on the service Get right. Yeah, I mean switch has been in the background of how many microsoft videos Jeff grubb you bastard you had to say that everything in the background for phil's mentor including the switch Mean something and then here they have this big xbox event And it's not even phil spencer and what do they have a series s a series x and a switch. It's like God dang it You're literally putting switch at the same level as your system, which means there's clearly a It's gotta be I don't know what it could be besides x cloud I'm sorry the only way it could be on the same level is x cloud and then your gamecast will work on x Unless it's not like an x cloud. It's like an attend cloud where Nintendo It's not necessarily xbox games. It's it's a similar service, but it's straight nintendo It's not it or Or it's just it's just nintendo cloud And it's really just x cloud re-skinned right nintendo offers their games and you can optionally subscribe to gamepass and get microsoft as well Microsoft doesn't care. They want their games on everything. Why would nintendo say no? We don't want your games on our system Yeah, I I forgot his name, but who's the the president of not xbox, but xbox live Oh phil spencer, right? Well phil spencer is he runs all of xbox Okay When daniel and I were at e3 We were like 10 steps away from him While he was going on and on and on talking about how much he loved nintendo and Was it was a phil spencer? Yeah, yeah, everyone knows phil spencer at this point. He might not have been the head of xbox at that time Because he had a title So when he when people think he took over xbox, he still technically wasn't the top dog Not like he is now. Um He just took over for I think was dimatric who I mean had no idea what he was doing. That's just to be honest um So and then he didn't really get the power to do anything with xbox until about four years ago And what's happened since then studio acquisitions like crazy xcloud Gamepass all of this happened recently and it happened after phil spencer was given the power to do this and given Like like he's like he's literally only answers to the ceo of microsoft There's nobody else above him When it comes to xbox anything he wants to do he wants to buy something just goes to the ceo. It says hey What about 7.5 bill for zenimax and pathesda? Here's your blank check. Have a good day. All right, like They that's how much the ceo of microsoft believes in what phil spencer is doing because What what happened is the ceo apparently in a meeting admitted to phil spencer that nobody of microsoft understands gaming And it's like well, I mean your pitch to me is that you can take turn game pass in the netflix Okay, what do you need? netflix had because microsoft's acutely aware because they invested some money in netflix How many billions of dollars was sunk in the netflix until it just started turning a profit this right so microsoft's aware Yeah, it takes a lot of money to turn it into a profit, but once you get there The profits are astronomical So when phil spencer pitches that they're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense Why wouldn't gamers want to be able to get all these games cheaper and in the end we just make bank in 10 years Like we could afford to do it now microsoft They they shit out 7.5 million. I mean they just had their financial report and they had like 15 billion net profit last quarter Okay, that already paid back what they just spent and then they made 7.5 bill on top of that so Like 7.5 billion is nothing to microsoft It feels weird saying that because oh nintendo only has nine billion in the bank microsoft's a different level microsoft's not just gaming though too So Yeah, there's also that let's just say Have you heard of a pc right? I mean i mean yeah linux is a thing, but let's just be real It's like 95 of the markets windows. Yeah Have you heard of a pc? Have you heard of business servers? Have you heard of outlook? I don't know why businesses still you want. I I guess I understand you don't want to have everything hosted by google and other companies But uh, I was reading a thing that it's like almost every laptop or Not tablet, but there are a bunch of tablets that do have a version of windows But every laptop or computer Usually has a version of windows on it when you first buy it. It's already pre-installed And microsoft gets so much money from the company that produces the computer For allowing uh, because they have to pay to have the microsoft windows on it So every single computer that you see on the shelf or at someone's place that has windows Even if something like that person's not directly buying a windows key from microsoft microsoft still gets so much money For every single computer and yeah, all these all these laptop makers. They all have deals of microsoft They pay microsoft to put windows on their platform the user is paying for it longer and it's built into the price of the pc But I mean you you just don't see it broken out They're paying for the people that don't want to buy a computer. It doesn't come with the os Yeah, they're paying they're paying for they just presume. Oh, yeah, of course. I get windows of them I wouldn't I it's just built into the laptop price. Um, yeah But that's money that people don't think about right really. No, yeah But microsoft feel making millions and millions every single day just from that And apparently they make apparently the most money they make From the company at least based on the financial report comes from their business servers People don't realize microsoft servers are the backbone of multi billion dollar corporations the world over windows server Like you guys all know about windows the pc windows 10 windows server edition Is running some of the world's biggest super computer Super server farms Like all these businesses like oh, why do they sell this all look? Yeah, maybe the outlook app is flawed But the reason they use outlook is because they integrate so well with windows server So they can control their own emails internally not on google servers or am no we have our own servers And we run windows and we pay windows and we pay them to serve us and my dad deals with a little bit of email migration And you know, I can't go too much into what he does, but it's all uh, it's just a thing out there windows Dominates the business world Yes, there are some companies that go all apple But they always run into issues because the problem with all apple is Everything they put in the cloud Clouds not always available 24 7 local server as long as you have electricity You have access So and eric knows to he deals he deals with some stuff too. So like windows. They make now Let's talk about some exciting stuff here And I'm gonna put game over jesse and the spire because I actually haven't had this conversation with you Um, it's about e3. I keep mentioning. I need to talk to you about e3 and then I just never talked to you about it So I'm gonna put you on the spot here in a moment No pressure. No pressure So We are doing a massive show journey three, right? We've talked about it on the channel a couple times, but you know, we have a big crowd here We've got 240 plus people. We were at 300 plus at one point. Um our e3 show guys Let me tell you we peaked today at 328 viewer 29 29 we peaked at 329 today If that is the entire crowd that showed up to our e3 stream Every single one of you would win something I have More to give away during e3 than the number of people showed up to watch this stream live I Want to make this clear to you guys We are putting on an event. This is not your standard. Oh, I'm just reacting to nintendo's thing I'm just reacting to microsoft. We're reacting to ubi soft even though we got a mute half the thing once like This isn't This isn't your standard channel just reacting to the stuff at e3, which we definitely are doing We're doing that We are doing that But it's built within a show that we will be putting on two hour pre shows long post shows Post post day podcasts. Maybe even daily if I could pull it off We'll see I gotta get past day one is he all exhausted Not gonna commit to a mean day There will be a podcast at least at the end of the four days or at least at the end of nintendo's day for sure Um because I already have hmk who is committed to being on the day that nintendo shows being on the end of day podcast for that um So yeah, so like we are putting on a show Okay We are not just gonna sit there and talk about video games. We're gonna play video games We're gonna play against you And if you beat us You win prizes You want a hundred dollar. I'm sorry 99 dollar nintendo switch e shop gift card. I don't know why nintendo cuts it at 99 Beat me in smash You're not going to But beat me one on one in smash I'm practicing by the way I am that you got anyone to see me play smash. Those are not very good I'm going to be good with at least one character By the time e3 comes around and I'm gonna This means if you beat me you want to probably if you beat eric that means i'm buying smash No, you don't have well if you want to practice. Yeah, um But uh, yeah, like it won't just be smashed, right? We'll have mario kart We'll have splatoon one-on-one. That's right one-on-one splatoon. Oh not so exciting. Oh until a hundred dollars is on the line You want to talk about exciting Yeah, that's the stuff we're doing during e3 eric and I will be facing off against each other in some games Loser gets punished. I gotta tell you one of the punishments Hot chip challenge. Yeah But there's gonna be other punishments as well Still fleshing all that out within reason Someone put out there. They want to lose her down losing one of the matches to put on a tinkle suit for an hour We'll see We'll see I did I did see it is actually reasonably priced. I can't get a fat man tinkle suit. Nice you exist Well, isn't that a and I have helium in the garage and I have a red balloon to tie onto So I'm just saying okay, it's possible that might be one of the punishments But there's gonna be entertaining moments. We're gonna have a bunch of giveaways. We're giving away systems. We're giving away Pro controllers. We're giving away skyward sword special edition joycon that come out in july We're giving away skyward sword hg. We're giving away. Uh, why are you golf super rush? We're giving away a ton of stuff special edition zelda hoodies that are officially licensed and don't exist to purchase at retail anymore Brand new got two of them. We're giving away. I'm giving away an e3 zelda coin from 2016 I got one left to give away and then one for myself I'll never give away the one for myself, but I got one still sealed Not sold sitting here giving that away. Can't even get those anymore unless you want to spend like 100 bucks on ebay Beyond that we have other collectibles as well coming into play. We are partnering with companies several of them Here's one that might excite you Here's one that might excite you Ever heard of devolver digital digital devolver No, it's still all original isn't it? Okay Ever ever heard of devolver digital? I don't know. I mean they put on one of the best e3 live shows every single year Ever heard of them? How would you like? I don't know a copy of carry-on I'm just throwing that out there exit the gun chin. I don't know. What about hotline miami the entire collection Let's just say we have 50 copies of digital devolver games giveaway 50 That's already like monetary wise bigger than any giveaway. I've ever done at the channel Just from one company That's just one Oh, it gets better Ever heard of frontier games? I don't know. There's a little this is a little known company that makes roller coaster tycoon 3 I'm giving away copies of that Along with two other games from them Oh, let's see here. We are giving away. Let me talk. I got a lot to emails here um You should almost just make a list of this I well I have a list but I don't want to access it because it has keys on it Got it. So I don't want to risk it. Oh, this just in case someone spies a key. No I get you. I'm I'm being careful. That's why I'm in my email. I get you and avoid any part of it Question being vague. Yep in your emails. Did you receive an email today? From a specific company about something in summer Uh, no, that's okay. No No, I did not you could you tell me about that later apparently you did I don't think I can tell you. Oh, you can't tell me. Dang it That's sad. Um, nobody heard anything Have you guys ever heard of children of morta or morsha? I always forget how you pronounce that one 85 plus metacritic Where's that the tweet that you commented on earlier that's talking about something exciting or whatever. Yeah, I have no idea Yeah, I had to delete that Even though I didn't say anything So he basically teased and he knows something but he can never talk about it. So it doesn't matter Maybe friday Oh, is this after nintendo announces their stuff I'm not saying it's from nintendo. I'm just saying that like that's what's supposed to happen this week We're supposed to get nintendo z3 fans Um, I like that now He's like, uh, I gotta be careful. Yeah I have a meeting friday And then I'll know what I cannot talk about Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Why didn't they include me? You wanted to know why you have almost 100,000 subscribers I'm a peon over here Pion um, you're the one partnering with all the different A lot of them are indie studios indie studios love partnering with people Yeah, this is a small studio too Okay, but still okay, but still I mean, I did get one today. It was it was devolver digital though And it was just about my e3 stuff. It wasn't not meaning Um, so that the devolver digital was the new one today um You guys ever heard of a company called um jf games team They make heroes of hammer watch ultimate edition. Give them a copy of that And more I'm not going to go through all of them because I got I literally type in e3 and I mean I've 40 different companies I'm talking to Just to put that in perspective. By the way, I also am currently in talks with ubisoft capcom uh 2k and Square enix Nothing nothing locked in with them yet. It doesn't necessarily none of them have said no They might be partnering as well. I think what happens is because they're bigger studios So they're kind of like researching my channel They also may be Trying to see who else is reaching out for partnerships and maybe and seeing if there's a little bit more bigger More known channels that reach out and because I also I also happen to have a direct contact with with the team behind n'jala at gun hall So I'm just saying there could be something happening there Remember n'jala switch exclusive that is something that we have not played in the long while You mean you have not played. Yeah, that's very true You just be breath of the wild. Let's be honest. That's very true. Um, so That's just some of the things Beyond that we have actually partnered with an etsy person who makes really really awesome Custom wall lamps and I mean like the sickest of these things are oh my god They're like they're like this big like this is a triforce one Oh, my god, they are sick. All handcrafted. They're like $100 $150 the most expensive one is 200. We're giving away five of them We will have them in person to show you guys and we ship it out. We that's right Not everything's like digital codes, right digital codes are easy. We have companies sending this stuff We have partners sending this stuff. We are going to have a lot of stuff on hand I'm actually the problem with our set is I didn't build anywhere in the set to put stuff I didn't think about that So, um, depending on how much stuff shows up in my house to show off during the thing to give away I might need to hold another tape. I don't I don't know. Okay. I might need like a bin That's like the size of this room to fit it all I there's so much stuff guys. I I literally have at the moment 345 different Giveaways happening. You're in E3. Three. It's just do the math do the math on that. What is that like one giveaway every 10 minutes? Not even yeah, probably every five Now obviously some things will well we'll give away multiple things in once of course because it's impossible Literally, we wouldn't even have E3. It would just be four straight days of giveaways So we have we have to like obviously package things together like if we have 10 codes for a game We're not going to split up 10 codes. It's already we'll just alternate once 10 winners, right? Yeah Um But You'll be able to enter you got to be there to win though. There will be no winners Like if your name gets drawn and you're not there it's all happening while we stream There's no sign-ups for it ahead of time. You got to be there if you want the link to enter You want to know how to enter you want a chance to beat us and win prizes? You got to be there now. I understand not everyone could be there for 12 plus hours of live streams four days in a row That's okay. I realized that just come for a little bit You want to watch the nintendo stuff on your own? Cool. I got no problem with that Well, make sure you come back so you don't miss the giveaway that happens immediately after because I already can guarantee Something I know about from nintendo that I can't talk about We will be giving away right after nintendo's things done Eric's looking at me like what do you know about? Oh, it's already planned into the budget Because yes, it's being paid for we have out of pockets. It's already planned into the budget though So Be excited guys This e3 you're going to want to be at nintendo prime now as we're putting game over jesse on the spot Oh, yeah, so one thing I didn't talk about yet because I didn't want game over jesse to feel left out for a moment is we are going to have special guests coming out throughout our live stream on all four days to talk about things happening at e3 Um, because again, this is a show. It's an event. It's not just entertainment and giveaways Conversations, what's my channel about guys? We talk about games. We talk about the hardware Obviously, we're going to want to react to it and bring in other people So andres restart is already going to be coming on and I was hoping game over jesse If I want to come on for some of it now you have your own stuff I'm sure going on your own reactions. So obviously just like hmk does that's why hmk decided Eh, I'll come on after and be on the podcast. Okay far Madness but hmk wants to be hmk literally said I wish I wasn't a youtuber and I would come on like when I told him what's happening. He's like holy shit, dude I'm like, yeah, just come on mind. We let's do a joint event hmk come join me But now he's gotta do his own thing in his own channel. That's fine. Um, so game over jesse the invite is extended right now live Will you come at least one of the days at one time at some point to talk? Yeah Okay, so as long as it's not for the nintendo Direct I will be there and I'll be happy to be there even if it's ubisoft square Well, doesn't have to be even during the things that can be before it can be after No, I can come on Your show is crazy. I got to be there during yeah, I got to be there. Well, it's awesome. All right. All right If it was just me doing a reaction, I'm a very boring robot So my reaction even during the breath of the wild to reveal Everyone knows how big of a zelda fan. I am you didn't have a heart attack on me when I got revealed It was just like I just raised my hand. I was like yay But everyone else in the room was just screaming. Yeah, I literally like fell over and I'm surprised We didn't get kicked out of the hotel with help. Oh, I was so loud. I was so loud for my reaction I'm a noise complaint had to be made. No, no, no. These are regulars. Yeah, right These are regulars. They they're fine. They pay good. So I'll I'll be happy to be there with Whatever So we got game over. Jesse locked in as well. I am talking to some other youtubers Obviously the big thing with having other content creators on guys is They're E3. What do you think they're doing? They're making content and live reacting to things too, but again, we have others that have said Let's wait till the schedule comes out So we can see there might be a section during some of the days when like maybe they don't come out Like Jesse will come on for like Ubisoft or whatever But like if someone wants to come on to say react after Nintendo. Well, what's the schedule look like? Like what's the treehouse? What's the this? What's the that? And then see if there's like a spot and they were like, okay. Yeah, I need a break from my channel anyways You know, let me grab a bite to eat then I'll pop on and you know, like I'll just restart, you know He wants to come on. I think he said for like an hour. So we'll see I told I was only looking for 15 minute segments, but he wants to be on for an hour and watch me get my ass kicked That's his choice Because you wonder you guys are gonna kick my ass. You wonder you guys is gonna like I'm gonna get embarrassed so bad and smash. I might ban it for the rest of E3 and Play something else. I'm actually a good add But uh, no, it's gonna be good fun guys, and I hope all of you 200 plus people make it out to the show And spread the word because the only way this show is going to work The only way the show is going to be the biggest and greatest E3 show is if everybody does their part and spreads the word We are a community. I am doing this for you. This is over $3,500 Worth of stuff committed and it's growing by the daily I literally spend half of my days Dealing with business emails talking to companies Sorting out funding for things trying to make this all happen. I mean, let's let's put it this way I'm sitting at work and my phone's constantly going Yeah, because I'm keeping Eric up to date because he's the co-host like I know what's going on And we don't even have it fully organized because we can't organize all of our stuff until we have the E3 schedule Right, so like that's why it's like not only am I excited for nintendo and knows what they're doing I want to know when they're doing it so I can build my schedule that day around what's happening with nintendo because Obviously for us nintendo is the biggest deal, but we're reacting to everything. Oh, yeah, because we always do So this is gonna be wild I Want all the prizes a few people said bring on the doggy comb Yeah, dude dk man. I would love a dk reveal 40th anniversary, baby. I still want to see um a little bit of dk animal crossing, but mainly just the bongos Place of dk bongos in animal crossing clear up a couple things in the chat Um, somebody said if you're already subbed you can't win the giveaways that no, of course you can win What are you talking about? Yeah, don't worry about it. I know a lot of people are wondering How can I enter the giveaways? Well? I can't tell you how because it's not time to enter Just be there Yeah, you'll need to be subbed to win of course, but that's that's a side dish. Just be there um When it comes to uh, someone said man, isn't your e3 gonna be quite chaotic so One great beauty can come from chaos. Oh, yeah Sometimes the best things in life come from the most chaotic of moments And I think I feel like the most chaotic moments are going to be live reactions to whatever the hell nintendo drops Breath of the wild 2 trailer. I mean, I might attempt the worm And break everything on the desk. I'm so excited and in your body in my body Probably that too Let me try to back flip off the table and we're gonna have to set up a webcam in your in your uh hospital room As you're all casted and but no body parts hanging up. Here's the thing. So for people who want man, it's going to be chaotic It's not We are going to have a schedule Okay The schedule, uh, I don't know if it's going to always be public facing So you guys can know what time things are happening at because the schedule will need to adjust It needs to be a little flexible based on what's happening live because we don't know all the announcements happening to you three So we need to have some flexibility in there for what's happening, right? Like oh, nintendo's done now But you know something big is happening in your tree house. Well, we got to push things back We got to we got to deal with this tree house stuff right now Right like so we have to be sure that we're flexible But I could tell you this the pre-show Fully mapped out basically every 15 minutes or something happening during the pre-show not necessarily a giveaway Could be a competition with eric and that could just be we have special segments for certain discussions Not certain games special guests special guests like again everything's going to be organized on our end Some of it you guys will see some of it you won't But it's going to be awesome It when when I tell you guys This show I'm putting on One is something I've never done before But it's something I'm very confident that I know what I'm doing because I've been covering this industry a long time I've got all the equipment I need to lock this all down I've got all the money invested in the set that I need to do I got all the money paid out and taken care of to uh take care of our various stream layouts Some of you guys saw a teaser of those stream layouts a couple days ago when I was streaming You saw some of those layouts. They're really badass. Aren't they? They're really cool. I think they're really cool. Anyways Um, we have grant curcope providing music For our event didn't know if you guys knew that I have actually talked about it before but how many people watching knew grant curcope the man the legend the myth It only gets better if I could team grant curcope with david wise And then you know you get koji kondo involved and it's just the trifecta of my childhood But We have like like exclusive music from grant curcope being used during our streams So I'm just saying this is huge bigger than anything I've ever done. I'm so excited. I can't wait. I'm nervous But I'm nervous excited nervous For you guys Because you guys have no idea what's about to hit you This is wild I've even upgraded the internet in my house to a business line I'm trying to make sure nobody Around me gets priority, but me It probably doesn't matter because of spectrum But Since I've switched I have not had my internet cut out one time now knock on wood Because the first time it'll happen is half of e3. Yep. Yep, or we blow a fuse Which by the way, I'm trying to make me have contingency plan She wants me to get a second internet service in here so I could flip a switch in case it happens and I told her Yeah, this is Julia. She's she's thinking ahead. She's thinking. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, you need a backup We're gonna be about six generators then too I know we're gonna knock out the power lines. We're gonna make sure we have generators on call. Yeah Oh my gosh, it's gonna be wild show. I hope you guys all tune in game over jesse. Thank you so much for coming down the podcast man You know anything else you want to cover before we go? No, there's everything was good. I'm just hoping, you know You're meeting a friday goes well anniversary is rumored. I Hope it comes. I was that I'm like what you're meeting on friday goes well. That's what I'm hoping Oh, yeah, yeah, I hope that goes well, but uh, just all the all the rumors and leaks of the zero 35th anniversary. I just hope uh Some something happens with that because for the 35th anniversary. We need Uh something like the the mario anniversary and so many people have been asking for it So I hope that happens. I hope the metroid prime gets announced for all the metroid fans and Yeah, I I hope There is at least a small tease or something confirmation of the switch pro Um So those are my three big things for e3 or if whatever anything happens like at a later direct, um, but Uh, yeah, thank you so much for having me on it. It was really great being on here Do you have any upcoming content you want to let people know to come check out? Do I um Or is it all waiting for your friday meeting? I mean, I know you have the podcast this week. Yeah Yeah, we have the podcast next week. Um, I'm I'm doing videos like I normally would uh Uh Yeah, just uh theories and top 10s and stuff. This is just gonna be cool. Uh, he's got some stuff in the works He just doesn't want to tell you what and when that's what I say. That's what I say Yeah, or can't go to game over jesse or can't or can't. Yes. Yeah, uh, it could be a camp If you uh head over to my channel, I know Nate is giving away the entire world But uh, we're also doing a small giveaway comparatively Uh on my channel, but it's cool because you're giving one one every every thousand subs on your way to Wait, uh, yeah 60 $60 e-shop card for every 1,000 new subscribers until we hit 100,000 where we are giving away Yep an Nintendo switch Skyward sword nice and a mebo nice I mean the joy cons as well and for people watching live I am linking game over jesse's channel in the chat right now if you guys go check it out and subscribe And there's a several videos on the channel that also features Nate as well. So you guys go on there It's just where I admit that I I'm so busy making content. I don't actually watch other people's videos. Yeah But I do I do come on your podcast sometimes. No, here's the thing I obviously watch your videos because I make follow-up videos to them, but I can't remember the last time I was mentioned besides when I popped in a live stream I feel like it's been a little while. Yeah, it was great seeing you pop in uh last night Yeah, I had Rated someone who Yeah, yeah, you rated you too rated super chat as well. Yeah, I didn't even know that was a thing everyone came in And I was like, oh my god, it's Nate. I was like, that's good. Let's push on the 170. We hit it. We did it Yeah but yeah, just uh, thank you and The invite for the e3 thing uh would love to come on to that Whichever Presentation or after show talk you would like to do sure. Yeah, we'll get that organized again Right now. I'm just trying to get people who are saying yeah I'll be part of it and then we'll organize when they're all going to do it once we know what the actual schedule is Um, it's guys. We're going to know the whole e3 schedule like in the next three weeks from all the companies so Well, we'll have a good idea and then we'll be able to set our schedule because I'm telling you guys right now Two hours before anything ever happens at e3 on all four days. We're live with our pre-show No matter if this starts at eight in the morning or we're live at six Which I really hope it's not eight in the morning. I'm hoping they go off pacific time and it's like 11 That's better for me. Great, but But so, uh, I was wanting to add in really quick, uh, since there is A couple of months left until e3 begins and you have this huge giveaway You, uh, since you invited me, uh You are more than welcome to come on the Highland gamescast either of you and uh, I'm always game. Nobody ever asked me I swear I never get asked But also to promote your big giveaway and let everyone know because I'm sure that'll get a lot of people over to this. Yeah, you're dude your podcast episode. I've been noticing getting a lot of viewers live For a while now it's been getting more since we we started scheduling them And we had like over 100 waiting for one of the scheduled things So then we were like Since there was a hundred people waiting and we hadn't even started yet Maybe we should start scheduling them more often and it's like 50. It's been closer to like 200 So probably I'm not quite up to your stream here today. Uh, yeah, this is unusual. Great. I'm letting you know right now We've never had this many live for a podcast ever Right, and I think it's because literally look at the title new switch probable was new virtual I mean come on. Yeah, right come on. Who isn't gonna come to that And you you did it wasn't click bait or misleading It took a while to get there but It's a podcast. Um guys in the chat right now if you're live, I'm gonna link a link to our pre-show stream That's right. It's already up so you can go set notifications It's set preemptively for 8 a.m on june 12th, but again That's just a tentative thing until we get the schedule But the stream is set up because guys we all know notifications suck, right? So as many possible ways as you can get notifications between you should subscribe You should hit the bell icon set it to all notifications, but you could set an individual notification for our pre-show So when it goes live Hopefully it works I don't know if it will But hopefully it does so I'm gonna put a link right now in there Uh for our day one so you guys can go set notifications for that Otherwise go check out game over jesse's channel. He does a lot of great stuff His zelda knowledge is beyond my own these days Beyond my own these days was probably a time when we were we were equals now You know, I've been covering everything for too long at this point If you can't tell his podcast is literally called the hylians gamecast. I mean come on now Come on now to uh to get a little sentimental here When I first I guess started talking to you or found out who you were since you were the one basically running zelda and former and I looked up to the website and Uh, since you were the person running it, obviously I looked up to you and then when I started talking to you I started getting more respect for you because I was just at the time riding for like zelda dungeon or zelda universe and I was Really liking zelda and former so uh when I started talking to you it was like almost like a role model Bigger because like you were in that position that I would like to be in the community Uh, it was like when I first started my channel or even before it when I was just riding on zelda websites And that's never went away even though You you have the different website. I mean you're a bigger deal than me. What do you do? What are you doing over there? You all grew me It's the same thing like whenever I talk to you It's still like that that almost nervous feeling you get when you're talking to someone that you have a lot of respect for And you look up to and I I appreciate you're still that person so being a bit sentimental there, but yeah No, no, I legitimately I I appreciate that. I always wonder like I don't talk to a lot of people back from those days anymore For reasons that we're not going to get into on this podcast Um, I kind of had to force myself to disconnect which I didn't want to do but um It is nice like you're one of the few carryovers from those days that I still actively talk to here and there and Um, like I could even tell like when we when we met in person You know a couple times at e3 and Like one you're just so happy at e3 You talk about how quiet you are. You ain't no quiet at e3 Mm-hmm. You're like you are you are riding the high of life at e3. I'm I swear You are like beam it Like your fan base might think oh game over. Jesse doesn't have energy. I've seen it Don't even right If you would have been around that's whenever Daniel and Jablima and everyone else came to get me after the I think it was the Bethesda e3 press conference I was loaded Shout out to cap Berguson in the chat everyone. Um, yeah He's part of the High League gamescast. He's got his own youtube channel as well. Go check it out Um, he does game streams. He also does occasional video uploads over there. Uh, and also for those who didn't know cap Berguson Talk about a small world. Um, he actually used to work for me at Zeldin former and then he technically Was part of my journey to becoming a youtuber because him and I were the ones making all the plans At zeldin former in like 2016 to try to be like, hey, we should really up the video because content We're putting out on the youtube channel. This is kind of like the future This is where things are going and Daniel was the one with me helping me do that Not just with like the podcast or something But actually putting out content still to this day the dragon break video on our channel is still one of our most viewed videos And daniel made that back in the zeldin former days Um, he's an awesome guy, uh, and he literally like honestly, this is all cool. Daniel He's just like game over jesse. I could have Let's let's say I have like, I don't know. Um game over greggie is going to come on right He's going to come on and be on one of our podcast episodes When something comes up cancels five minutes to go. I already have everything set up I'm ready to go. Oh crap because I will not do a podcast without a guest telling you right now but I could literally text daniel Like that he'll show up Same for game over jesse if he sees the message in time Like that's that this is the tight knit community and how small it is in this zeldin community that Sticks it out. I'm sure arm fh would be the same way. I don't know why I don't talk to him I should really talk to him more often Because he knows he knows all about because like arm fh knows more about me because not because like he worked under me or like that But I helped his youtube channel grow like I did so many zelda youtube channels back then when zeldin former was a big deal We were looking for content to post every day and I was the one that the sather and I said, you know What's happening on youtube right now, right? There's so many crazy zelda theories. Why are we not posting about these? Yeah, and we helped all these channels get their start Which kind of sucks because like some of the channels i've gotten quite big and now that i'm a youtuber They won't respond to me, but I guarantee it if zelda informer was still around and I was running zelda informer Oh, yeah, they talked to me because they'd want me to send them views It's weird. I'm not going to call anyone else specifically Maybe in private jesse if you want to know but i'm not going to call anyone else specifically I probably already know It's just it's just it's fine. People don't have to shout me out. I don't really care about that It's more so a man. I really thought we had like an actual relationship. I didn't realize it was just like you're just using me And that's one thing you got to be careful when you're in this industry, whether it's youtube Or running websites or any social media stuff a lot of snakes in the grass That are just looking for the attention and they don't actually and that's why I like jesse when you're talking about Even to this day you still look up to me. It's like Like it's touching man that like We go way back and you're just it's not about the views. It's not about the audience I could have 10 people watching you're going to be here and have just as good a time. You don't care It doesn't matter, you know Yeah, uh, really quick in the chat someone said what about zeltec with my experience zeltec he's always been Kind of quick to get back to me and messages. We used to be part of the group chamber of sages we used to collaborate a lot and then We kind of went our own ways But even though like we go months without talking Like whenever we went to e3 the entire group like commonwealth realm zeltec dr. Wiley Like all of them daniel or chablima Can tell you how many messages I was getting from them asking for me to come hang out With us have dinner and stuff because it was like every couple of hours But we were busy and then finally we had time to go out and have this big dinner and we all talked and had a lot of fun Not a lot of those people Are really really good. So uh zeltec ed is uh, definitely One of the good ones although sometimes he is a bit hard to get in touch with but you uh, Usually I think when I go to e3 You're like the only person You and daniel try to get a hold of me to like you at least say hi. Yeah, um Literally nobody else. It was only one other time and it was cody. It's of the universe wanted to hang out for a bit The first e3 is A king among yeah, cody's quite the I gotta get him on a podcast of a he Let me tell you want to be entertained I I could literally just sit back and just let him talk for two hours I'm not even kidding guys. He is awesome. Maybe I'll introduce you guys to him sometime I gotta see what his schedule is like and what's going on But thank you guys so much for tuning in. This wasn't tender prime. I guess episode number seven Thank you for joining us. Hopefully I'll see all you guys out the next episode also eddie 3 came over jesse We know we'll be talking Other times especially if you can actually talk about what happens on friday after your meeting that would be I like to be privy on things And hey, if you're a company out there that was watching this podcast and you would like to partake in our E3 giveaway extravaganza my email is nathan at nintendo prime net. Let's hook up. Let's make it happen Let's make gamers happy as we start to come out of this pandemic. Let's start it good and give feel good stories for hundreds hopefully thousands of gamers Catch you guys in that next episode