 Welcome to the Knuckleheads of Liberty. So Pork Fest, tell us a little bit about Pork Fest, Dennis. And I'm sure some of our listeners would love to hear about some of these great things going on in Liberty around the country. Pork Fest stands for the Porcupine Freedom Festival. It's pork as in porcupine, not pork as in pig. Although we do have a big pig roast at the very end. So if you do like pig roast, you'll enjoy it there. I try to explain to the celebritarians what Pork Fest is relative to all the other libertarian conferences. This is really more of a simulation of a week in living in Liberty. So it's basically an immersion into this experience of living in a voluntary, win-win exchange society. Last year we had 90 different hubs of people offering different types of vending or lounges or venues where they were giving talks and that type of thing. We had 700 events going on throughout the week. And an event could be like a workshop or a panel or a discussion. It also could be a knitting group or what have you. So all different people doing all different types of things. The underlying theme though is that we are all libertarian. We're there for the Free State Project. The Free State Project is this attempt to actually create a freed society in one place in the world in a small state of New Hampshire. And so about 19 years ago we had our first Pork Fest. It was called Escape to New Hampshire. And the purpose of that festival was to convince the people who were trying to vote for which state would be the Free State, which state they would choose to try to start up the Free State, that they would choose us. And so what we did was we had this gigantic party out in the mountains of New Hampshire, the North New Hampshire, and invited everybody who was going to vote. He said, come out here, see what New Hampshire is like, and then vote. And that was one of several reasons why New Hampshire won. But we are the longest continuous freedom festival in the world. We won that two years ago when everyone shut down for COVID. This is the Free State. We don't shut down for COVID. Everyone else was locked up and we were having our Pork Fest right there. So we're now 19 years and next year will be our XX, our 20th anniversary. Well, yeah, that's pretty interesting and also too with the whole COVID thing. I know even Freedom Fest, because they were set to go in Las Vegas, they got shut down. That's part of the reason they went to South Dakota the following year. So yeah, it's great that you guys were able to keep the tradition going. Well, I think a lot of people... I'm sorry, but that raises a question. How did you all handle COVID then? I mean, I know the state of New Hampshire did have restrictions and all that. How did you all handle that? We weren't supposed to have it, so we told them that we were going to have it and then we invited the governor to come and speak at it. We had a thing of enter at your own risk and do take care of yourself. We had special bands. I was actually going through some cancer treatments. So I actually exercised a lot of prudence at the time. I was one of the ones who wore the band and even though I'm kind of a huggy guy, I didn't hug. But it is, it's a campsite, so we were all outdoors. It's out in the sun, so it's all sunny. So in a way, it was a pretty safe environment. It's a fairly young group, so unless you were listening to the government, you knew that the risk was fairly low. But still, we're libertarians. The people who didn't want to come didn't come. It was actually one of our lowest attended festivals. We had only 900 people show up for that particular festival. So that was one of our lowest ever. Except the first ones, I mean, in modern time. But we had a grand time and I have to say the parents who came up, pork fest is a very kid-friendly place. A lot of families come. I always say that the people who have the most fun at pork fest are the pre-teens. So they're like the 10-year-old to 14-year-old group. These kids, especially where they were coming from, we're trying to get people from the authoritarian 49 to come. So they're locked down. Now they come to pork fest and they're free. They're running all over this gigantic campground and they are so entrepreneurial. And there's all these opportunities for them to make money. Last year there were kids who left pork fest with over a thousand dollars in dollars, gold, silver, you know, Bitcoin, you know, goldbacks, whatever. So they're going out, they're trading services, they're helping vendors sell things. They have such a great time there. So you said your last year event during COVID, of course, was attended by about 900. So in a normal year, quote-unquote, normal year, what is a normal attendance? That's a good question. So our normal average is around 1200, 1200 people. And we've been doing that. Our biggest high before I took over was 1500. Okay. 1500. Last year was the first year we sold out and I sold 2500. This year we're already sold out also and it's going to be, it's more than 2500. We've had 28. Oh, wow. Okay. And so one thing just to clarify too, so is this meant to be something where you can't for a whole week then or is it something where people can come for a day or two? Is that sort of the way it works? Well, no, it's an immersion. It's an immersion experience. So you come for the week. People will still, the tickets aren't all that expensive. So the people will come for a day and there's so much going on, so much excitement, so much fun that you come for a day. It's well worth the money for a day. But it's this experience of living in liberty. We spend our lives living in authoritarianism all the time. So what would it actually, what would it feel like if you lived in liberty? Now, it's interesting the longer the Free State Project has been going on and we're actually accelerating and accelerating and accelerating. We're getting more of a feeling of liberty living in New Hampshire because we're just, you know, we're pushing back on the laws and all that type of stuff. So at some point, and I hope it's going to be soon, it's going to be porkfest 365 here in New Hampshire. So, you know, you won't have to go to a festival to go into this simulation immersion program to find out what would it be like? How would I feel? Would I feel different? Would I feel different? I mean, let me, let me, the first time I heard about porkfest was one of my, ah, yes, he's one of my ex-socialist friends or one of my socialist friends. Life, liberty and the pursuit of haptiness always and forever.