 My name is Andrew Vasallo, I'm a farm at the place called Brightly, which is about 35 k's west of Mackay. I've been on this property since 1992, I'm a second generation cane farmer. You know, I thought I was doing everything correctly, but with the 161 program we were just refined my fertilizing program hell of a lot. And just have the piece of mind in the back of your mind that I'm doing everything correctly to the best of our knowledge with information that we've got at the moment. So I come and saw Andrew and talked about what 161 could offer him. And Andrew is quite an investigative type of grower, so he's always looking for opportunities to either confirm or to challenge what he's doing. This program, it's more soil type related and it just brings it down from a larger scale down to a more refined area. We just pulled everything together and filled in the gaps that were existing in where he could confidently apply the rate as per the regulations. Before I signed up John came out and explained the whole program. We went through it all before the fertilizing program. I provided my soil tests, John calibrated all that information, put it all together, made it quite simple. I haven't got just little blocks here and there all over the place, it's quite easy, it's quite uniform, it's all soil type related. You know, I've got the map on my phone so you don't have to know what to put on where. Very simple and there's any questions John is always on the phone and I was too happy to try and help me out. We didn't make massive changes to the top end and the bottom end but what we did do is give Andrew a lot of confidence to what he would do and where he was doing it and we just demonstrated the process of how we came up with these numbers. We addressed the nitrogen levels in different blocks. We think we've got them down to industry standards I think, so I'm involved in a water sampling program also so it'd be good to see if we're getting any runoff as well. So yeah so with all that information on hand we should come up with some type of formula to prevent, you know, come up with a good number I suppose. So as part of the 161 there's also biomass sampling which analyzes the nutrients that are in the cane and this allows a more thorough investigation for what the cane has extracted from the soil in relation to the nutrients that we've put in so that can provide another source of guidance as to whether your application rates are being utilised. Yeah I'll support, you know, encourage all growers to get on board really. With this program all your recommendation is all done in an easy format to understand and the beauty of it, it's all your record keeping on your fertiliser stuff is all done for you as well. All you've got to do is really apply an applied date to it and pretty much I believe that's all your fertiliser, you know, record keeping and application all done and so simple just one headache that you don't have to worry about.