 How's it going everybody taught today here back with another Dragon Ball FighterZ video for you all today and this one is going to be a bit different as instead of the usual ranked gameplay we are actually going to be talking about the upcoming balance patch that is going to be coming to the game at some point in August as was announced by the producer of the game, Heroki. Obviously this is something I'm super excited about, I couldn't get it off my mind, so I thought it'd be a fun idea to go ahead and talk about stuff I'd like to see in advance just so that when we're going through the balance patch once we eventually get it we'll have a reference point for what I was kind of hoping to see. Of course down below in the comments you could also feel free to let me know any ideas you have for what you want to see in the upcoming balance patch, what characters you think should be buffed, nerfed, etc. As for me we are going to be breaking it down in this tier list style format and then go over here and explain the tiers I've laid out real quick. Now I'm no professional list maker so we might have some overlapping stuff here and there but I'll break it down in the video as we go on. So first up we got nerfs, now this doesn't have to mean huge nerfs or small nerfs, it's pretty much just anything in between. Just characters I think should be a little toned down overall and then we have fine as is overall these characters are pretty much in a great spot, at least from what I think. I do have an asterisk here because of another category we have later on down the line but up next is buffs, straight up just make this character a little better. Let's get them maybe some frames cut off here and there, maybe you know some more hits you know the basic stuff just things that make a character better I'd like to see it. Then we have the category that's going to kind of mess up the list which is just something new. We see this in balance patches all the time, something like TN getting clones always sticks out in my mind is something new. I kind of even count Jiren's counter in this category of just being something new for a character because it went from a projectile only counter to literally countering everything but I don't know that one could just be seen as a straight up buff. Then getting clones was straight up just something new. That was wild and then we just got a bias category. This is for stuff that is just too close to my heart to see clearly. I'll probably try to show you where they belong normally but I'm going to put you know let's just let's go let's just let's just get the two in the bias category right there he is all right there we go that's my bias category. For each of them being Goku as 2M if you haven't played the game for a while originally Goku's 2M was pretty good it was a lot of fun to use and then they slowed it down massively like a huge slowdown very noticeable and since then they haven't proved it a little but I still miss the OG 2M which is what I would like to see eventually one day come back and just get a full revert still hoping obviously I don't think it does but hey if not maybe they could make it so that his double super combo actually goes back to doing the old damage it did I know they took away double supers for a reason but maybe just for Super Saiyan Goku I don't know that combo is pretty iconic in my mind the Kamehameha into the Warp Kamehameha that's just good stuff as for Yamcha the bias here obviously in season 3 they gave him a way longer cooldown on EX Wolfang fist off on width this made it so you could be less random with the move overall the nerf makes complete sense so for being completely honest I would probably put Yamcha in the fine as is category if we're not having any bias but this is my list dude I'm biased revert that dude let me be stupid with the option yet let me fly across the screen dude all right but that's pretty much gonna be the bias category I don't think we'll be touching that anytime soon so that brings us to the nerfs I have a feeling this is where most people are going to either disagree or agree either way I think this is gonna be the most passionate of all the columns so I'll just go ahead and throw up a few characters there now I think Broly does need to be looked at a little bit I feel like he's just so dominant but also it's in a weird space where I feel like you know that's Broly you know you can't really take away Broly's super armor that's what makes him you know was so so accurate to the anime's depiction of Broly but maybe it is a bit too much as Key Blast game is also just so oppressive I don't know is there a downside to Broly other than his height I don't know if his height is even that much of a downside anymore yeah Broly just absolutely crazy character dominant in both the range game end up close with that super armor insane damage off of things like EX larried it's a slow level 3 just the combo my god I can talk about Broly all day but who else do I want him to join him in the nerfs column hmm I don't know honestly I think the game is pretty balanced but I'm gonna have to say free now I'm kidding that that would be funny though Frieza got nerfed again that would be very funny I really don't know maybe Team Gohan as well that could be something to nerf he is rather good I don't know if he's he's crazy I've looked I've looked at other people's listen some people have Gojita up here but I don't know if I agree I feel like I would put Gojita in fine as is I don't know if I would nerf Gojita at all but if anything maybe you could get some slight nerfs well we'll say that we'll put Gojita in nerfs just cuz I think you could get some slight nerfs there's some stuff to go G to that I think it's crazy obviously is a very good all-around character but I don't know I don't know alright we'll even nurse for now we'll see if I can come back to that as anybody else maybe go tanks maybe go tanks but I don't know I'll leave him up no no no I'll not I'm taking how do I feel about that dude this list is way harder than I thought it would be already late hell alright from now on instead of going from category to category let's just go through character to character 16 I'm gonna easily say 16 needs some buffs overall I would love to see some buffs for 16 he was the original top tier of the game but he's falling out of favor a lot now they try to give him something interesting with his B assist and I think it was cool they've also made him slightly better but if we could just get some overall new bus for the guy he could also go into something new category but I feel like they already try to go that route with his B assist I feel like that was pretty unique 17 is a character that they did do something new it they let him do stuff in the air and because of that I think I might actually have been fine as is he's a pretty hard character to use and get the most out of but he's pretty good the thing is next to these two he does kind of stand out a little bit so maybe get some slight buffs but for now I think I appreciate it where he is Android 18 this is a lot easier boom fine as is 18 has some six oh another easy one 21 up the androids dude most of the androids I think it I think are in a pretty good spot right now except for 17 who I think could either get some minor buffs or just maybe something new off of his hot bag there's a lot there's a lot we could experiment with 17 Bardock oh man Bardock I think Bardock's fine Bardock still just as Bardock is ever dude but I think yep because of that we're just gonna leave him right there he's kind of been power crept a little just because I would describe go Jida as kind of Bardock 3.0 go Jida kind of does the same thing Bardock does actually wait who who's the other Bardock oh no dude it's not it's it's UI Goku dude UI Goku is Bardock 3.0 so you know what you know what get something new for you treat yourself Bardock let Bardock get a little something new spruce him up a little bit just because I feel like you UI Goku just pretty much does everything Bardock does so Bardock could go in fine as is but I'm gonna hope Bardock gets something a little new maybe a different interaction something but that would be really cool be a risk right here is actually already pretty good so he's he's going in fine as this as well as Broly that's easy dude as Broly's going in buffs I want to see a top tier as Broly I want to see really really powerful as Broly and he's not bad right now don't get me wrong he probably doesn't need much to be crazy but just some I mean buffs are always more exciting than nerfs or something being left the same right that's why I'm also probably going to say for getting you I don't know dude I'm gonna give you some buffs why not I'm a risk out of a regret that later Frieza as much as it pains me to say it I don't like facing Frieza now but give the guy some buffs I still think it's stupid that you can't go into golden more than once a match I don't know I feel like you should be able to if you want to I don't think that's a I don't think that would change the game for Frieza or anything but I just I really wonder why they have such a harsh restriction because I feel like Golden Frieza is a really hype thing to see in a match especially when somebody that plays Frieza a lot really goes at it you know it's just something that in events and tournaments you want to see somebody popping off with Golden Frieza it would be hype sell still just as good as ever I actually think sell is not as popular as he used to be because the other characters are kind of do crazier stuff but sell isn't bad at all in fact I would say you know he's fine as is as the category states cooler I'm gonna say you don't give cool or something new I feel like cooler could get some buffs as well but I feel like coolers also just a very dry character if that makes sense so that you could definitely use something to separate himself a bit more from the cast I don't know what they could do easily without having to add new animations but just something bombastic something like a 17 being able to do stuff in the air or something like a they've actually done this before right they let him do his level 3 on the ground or something they change something about the way this man's level 3 work but yes something new for cooler is is my overall thoughts I want to see cooler even more popular than ever gojita is also going in the buff category just because I think he could use a little something just to compete with Super Saiyan for gojita I don't think he's at that level even though I think Super Saiyan blue gojita is decently okay that's the hard part about this list is fighters is pretty well balanced right about now if you apart from a few standout characters but man fighters is in a really good spot which is why like I don't know dude maybe we do have to move these two I feel like they're kind of skewing the records I feel like these two are kind of skewing the list a little bit alright maybe we'll move just gojita he's skewing the list dude it looks too weird to have gojita not in the nerves category alright here's another case of a character that I think just gets overshadowed because of team go on as you can see we have team go on up in our nerves category and I feel like adult Gohan while good I don't think he's a terrible character he's got a C beam assist as well which helps you know he's just not team Gohan so I feel like we're also going to put him into something new category maybe and this one could be easier than all the rest right the easy way to do this is maybe they make the level up system even more rewarding like for like now now really all you need is one level and you're good to go with go on what if you make it like if you get to like four levels he's like crazy and if you get to seven levels he's just beyond stupid something like that I think would go a long way even if it was just like I don't know to be honest this might just be me but what if it like visually he got like an aura to him at level seven or something I don't know it was something spruce it up make players want to play the character for a reason I'm stalling because we all know what's coming up next yikes it's Goku but we you know what we hold on there we go that one that one could help out a little bit goku black is a character that I feel either he needs a lot of help to compete especially among the other goku's in the game they're all doing pretty good right now other than super saying goku I guess but goku black has just been so stagnant over the course of fighters entire history and I actually date this back to when they announced that this was very early in fighters history but they said characters I can't remember the third one but they said characters like super saying goku goku black is the area of power they want to try to balance the game around um back then it kind of made sense but looking back goku was always a way better uh but goku black has been stagnant ever since then they've done small stuff but he could really use the help um and he is he's struggling like unlike a lot of other characters he's struggling in a different way um so hopefully he gets the help he needs uh one of these days um I know goku black players agree with this as soon as I uploaded that first video talking about the announcement of the balance patch instantly my comments were flooded with goku black players pleading and begging like I could do something but they were just begging for something above but dude I can only hope that they they come through for you now this might surprise you guys but goku gt I'm actually gonna say buffs and not huge buffs or anything like that but they actually attacked my man goku gt with a nerf very recently to his a assist I don't know I don't know if he needed that or if it was deserved uh but you know maybe revert that I don't know why they did that to goku gt I under I understand that he was a very oppressive character back in the day but they really snuck in that attack on my man I I remember just I don't even know if it's still up but I did it was live streaming at the time I was like wow it was just uncalled for goku blue honestly uh you could just leave him as is he's already pretty good I don't think he needs too much more um yeah no I don't I don't think this one is too much uh base goku I'll also say the same for I don't know base goku is pretty strong as well I'm just gonna put him up here not that this tier list is ordered or anything but I just wanted I just want to make it clear that base goku is pretty good so we'll leave him up there as well hit all right I'll stop the cap dude I think he could use small buffs and particularly the buffs I want to see is um to his ground counter a lot like um you know I play against siriax a lot on this channel a lot of what he brings up is that his ground counter just feels underwhelming and I would agree his ground counter isn't anything too crazy um and I don't think it would be wild to give him something so maybe we should put him in something new actually if they make his ground counter act a new but I don't imagine they would do that I just imagine they would change some of the the data on it or something like that his ground counter just feels very um not as overpowering like his air counter is crazy like it'll just catch you slipping and then he gets some damage off of that maybe go into a cis combo so his air counter is all right ground counter that's something that could be worked on genemba genemba could use slight buffs to damage I don't think anything else is really needed they could maybe do something new with him as well uh just because I feel like maybe not a lot of people are bleh nah they don't need to make genemba any more complex just to give him a little more damage for the people that are playing him jeeran hey I'm putting this one in bold italicized text arksis he's good he's fine as is please don't nerf jeeran I don't know why I just have a fear that they did not mean to make this man uh this counter as good as it is I still from the first time I saw it I thought that they accidentally made it counter dragon rushes don't change jeeran he's good as is I honestly think that from the bottom of my heart jeeran could compete with the top top of the top um and and win he just has a lot of good stuff to him kevlar hmm I want to admit this I kind of want to see some kevlar buffs if i'm being honest they could keep kevlar now this is just this is just greedy I want to see something no I'm gonna put kevlar in something new I want the speed thing I want the speed thing to have more to it maybe you could speed twice in a line like maybe you could speed once and then speed up I don't know if that makes sense speed horizontally then speed uh diagonally up that would be cool I don't know kevlar is just a little bland I guess is what I'm trying to say uh she's still fun but just a little bland so I would like to see something new kid boo I'm putting kid boo as fine it is I don't know if he is fine as is I listen to a lot of kid boo players saying that he they want more damage uh kid boo still definitely scares me though so I'm putting him as fine as is uh but kid boo players you can let me know down below in the comments what exactly your problems are with this character right now but as for me dude I've had my fill of kid boo watching uh kid boo um so I think he's good Krillin honestly is fine as is I look you're not even gonna hear any bias from me Krillin's a very strong character right now uh his assist is crazy um I'll put this one in bold italicized text for the bias too please don't nerve Krillin they finally they just kept giving him buff after buff and now he's wild dude I don't think anybody would argue with this Krillin very strong right now a assist does amazing work um and also just everything after that just the more range they gave him last patch was crazy as well gave him options off medium after image that are really appreciated Majin Buu I'm gonna say give him some buffs just a little bit to damage stuff like that you could make the same argument that kid boo should also be in buffs then but you know Majin Buu just put him in buffs Roshi again is another character that I am going to put in buffs only because I still feel like if you don't have a super dash in this game or an option like similar enough to it don't get me wrong a good a good Roshi player would destroy me obviously but I feel like they need to be even more rewarded for them playing without a super dash if that makes sense uh it's just I don't know it's it's he could they don't have to be huge buffs he's already pretty good um in the right hands especially but I would like to see some nice little buffs for Roshi here and there Napa uh what do we want to see for Napa I kind of want to see buffs for now you know what just straight up buffs make Napa better overall you know I was gonna say something new but I don't really know what they could do for anything with him maybe like a Cyberman super I don't know Piccolo fine as is um he's his ASS carries a lot of teams dude the ASS is so good dude ASS is this wild kid argue with that you know what just rapid fire super baby two fine as is another great introduction honestly like I said I think season three let's pull out all the season three characters gojita was just all around great super baby two super unique my master Roshi super unique Kefla uh is good but like I said a little bland I think that was earlier and UI Goku is uh just honestly he's like a reflection of gojita they started at the end of the season with just straight up great dragon ball fighters Tien I hate to say this because I used him as an example but I feel like Tien still needs something new Tien is what I would describe as the most bland character in the game that doesn't mean he's boring per se in fact I enjoy him whenever I play him but he is very milked dude he is just one note he does a lot of damage you do volleyball commas you know you get the big damage but that is exactly why I think you need something new and I think his bs this was a good step in that direction but I would like for them to maybe work that into I don't know a different aspect of his game you know maybe they give him like a 2s uh chow tsu call or something like something to speed up a chow tsu call I don't really know how that could work but just something that would make Tien and chow tsu a little more interactive would be good trunks trunks trunks trunks I actually think trunks is pretty good but I'll put him in the buffs category for minor buffs okay minor buffs for trunks I don't want to see him go crazy I still think trunks is really good especially in sparking but you know we'll take it Vegeta blue also I would like to see some minor buffs where I think they took a good step in the right direction again I would say go Vegeta blue is actually somebody they did something new with last patch but some some nice smaller buffs would also be appreciated just to lock it up Vegeta Super Saiyan Vegeta dude I got no idea Super Saiyan Vegeta might might have to go in something new category as well but he's just so vintage I think he might be fine I think he might be fine I don't really know where I want to what I want to do with this guy he's just yeah I'm gonna put him in something new just because I think he's a bit boring but I don't know if I would ask for buffs or or say he was fine as is I don't know something new spruce him up a little bit come back to me base Vegeta though that's that's fine as is all the Vegeta's getting put in different spots uh Vegeta another fine as is and uh-oh sound the alarm sound the alarm we're getting some help in we're getting some help in here Fuusamasu does have some pluses I think Fuusamasu does huge damage you know he has that to him at least um but I don't know maybe like his lightning of absolution I think should play a bigger role his flight should play an even bigger role than it already does uh I wish they would focus on those aspects try to reconstruct him from the ground up his ki blast going over the head of other people also kind of sucks so maybe they could change that up a little bit but Fuusamasu could definitely use some help uh they he almost earns this help I would almost put him in the buffs and just plead that he does need big buffs but I'm putting him in the help spot purely because again when I uploaded that video Fuusamasu players were begging and I think it's because largely this character has just been ignored this yeah he's just kind of been here dude Videl for the same reason I think Videl's solid but just doesn't have a reflect so you could also maybe put Videl in something new maybe if her reflect like if you're not going to make it a reflect maybe make it something unique so it's a dodge right maybe there's a counter you can do off the dodge for a bit of damage like if you get successfully dodging attack uh or something like that so you could like knee him in the back of the head or kick him in the back of maybe get knocked down or something I don't know maybe that would be too good maybe that would be crazy but you know that if they already have the system for detecting a successful dodge they have a sound effect for it so if you can do that you can make Videl maybe like DP them away or something I don't know but that would probably be my list here there's a few things I'm not sure about including the nerf section go tanks I feel like I might be going a little easy on maybe I'm going too hard on gojita but for the most part I am pretty confident in this list obviously there's a lot of room for discussion on buffs whether they should be big or small but I feel like we've discussed in each and which case of what I want to see uh something new like I said this is very vague but just spice these up spice these up just pretty much this is add a little spice category and then the bottom did we discuss where I would put these I would put Super Saiyan Goku in the buffs category and Yamcha in the finest days if we didn't have bias but we do and I believe in bias so that's all I'm gonna leave the list for now but like I said down below in the comments let me know what your personal list would look like if you want to make your own honestly you can add me with them on Twitter over at Dada Doyle on Twitter or you can just let me know specific characters down below in the comments while you're down there though if you're excited to see the future of Dragon Ball fighters 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