 Thank you very much for keeping it Y254, if you are just joining us, this is the stand at Ramaguko at Y254 channel is our social media handle. Remember we are live on our website www.y254.co.ke. Give us your comments as we continue with this conversation tonight. Now you were touching about issues to do with the politics that you are supposed to stop politicking for 2022 yet you've been given a directive and I would like to start with what Honorable Rila Molo-Nigas said. He said this and I quote, when Jaramogi disagreed with Kenyatta on the issues of land he wrote a letter that said he found it no longer tenable to remain in government and he resigned. He had the courage and decency to say I am stepping aside because I do not want to earn a salary and I'm doing nothing. So if you have a problem with your boss, take a walk, get out of it. That's what Honorable Rila Molo-Nigas said in regards to the deputy president. What would be your technique because should this be an option? Age is a problem because such comments should not come to somebody who really thinks properly because Jaramogi was a vice president appointed by the president. We are in an era of a deputy president elected in the same ballot box with the president, kwenjoin twins. Kenyans gave their votes to two people, not one person. So when you compare an appointee to an elected person then I think you are missing the line. There's definitely a comparison because it's an issue of principle. Principle never changes whether you are elected, whether you are appointed. If I do not agree with you on principles, I take a walk. But you cannot operate like a girl or a lady whose husband is marrying a second wife customarily and then you are salking and throwing tantrums in the house. I always advise people like even when I was working at Fida and a woman comes and the husband has gotten married and they are salking and throwing tantrums I tell them you have two options. One is stay in the marriage and accept your co-wife or take a walk, divorce. But you cannot stay, you will be giving yourself unnecessary stress. You will be giving your children unnecessary stress. You will be causing problems to your neighbors because you will always be fighting. You will be kicking, you will be screaming. So really the most honorable thing to do is if you are not agreed is to take a walk. Yet at the same time we have had lots of complaints that the handshake was not extended to the deputy president. Isn't that also a reason for this issue? Why would you extend a handshake? And you said it, honorable Sankoka said it really very well. That those were conjoined twins, they came in elected as two. Why are you extending a handshake? Isn't that what you should actually be saying? We are the ones who should be complaining that why didn't DP Ruto also extend a handshake to Rayla Molodinga because what he should have done, president Uhuru extended the handshake to honorable Rayla Molodinga. So the person who should have then extended the handshake is the DP. Not the other way. Why would president Uhuru be extending a handshake when they are conjoined as twins? They came in as one. Why are you extending a handshake? It beats all logic. The deputy president said. Ram, before even you come to that, you know I have just said this comparison comparing a vice president and a deputy president is wrong. Comparing people who are elected together with a marriage. People who have just been maybe by the which type of marriage you are talking about cohabiting. No, not cohabiting customary marriage which is actually legal. Customary marriage is what allows customary marriage. No, I wanted to know which specific marriage you are referring to. Because comparing a deputy president, a whole deputy president with just marriage. The deputy president is married to Rachel. The president is married to Margaret according to my knowledge. So this issue of marriage, these people were elected together. And if they were elected together, if they have to go back to the ballot, they'll go back to the ballot together probably separately. The people can not just one individual but the whole office. Yes. So if the whole office have to walk, then the whole office have to walk together. They have to move out of the marriage and tell Kenyans, elect again another kwenjoin twins. Because that is what our constitution say. But you cannot say now we are elected together, you go back to the where do you walk? It is Kenyans to decide whether now we no longer want this kwenjoin twins want another set of kwenjoin twins. It is the Kenyans to decide. It is not the issue of Mili Wajyambu saying so and so she will walk. Where? They did not walk into the presidents. They were elected into the presidents. It is only the election that can separate the two. Let's be realistic. But then in that case really first of all let me also actually tell my good friend, that if you read the Bible, the relationship between God and the church is actually equated to a marriage. So if you humble a little bit, you would know that if God himself equates its relationship with the church as a marriage, then the deputy president could be equated to something less than a marriage. It could even be a cohabitation because for God is a proper marriage. So having said that, I would actually want to say that it is not about Kenyans saying that the deputy president walks, but he is already walking out because when the president says this and he says that, he is actually spiritually walked out. He is actually emotionally walked out. He is psychologically walked out. So what he needs to do is just legally walk out because he is already walked out. Speaking of people who have walked out, there are Kikuyu Elas who walked in quotes. They went to Haraila Odinga's home in Bondo on Saturday and they declared that Honra Boraila is the community's 222 choice. Of course everybody have their own right. I remember also, I think it was somewhere in 2013 or so. I don't remember the year. The same Kikuyu Elas also anointed again Haraila. There was an anointment once of Haraila being their choice. You remember when Haraila was anointed by their college in some college in Elas also, Azarap Mibay, and it is their choice and you know what have been happening. So it is their right, they have done their bit. Even though I saw a few of them, there was Azar Kenudia who is not even married, he is 25 years of age. I don't think he qualified to be an elder. But all in all, they have all the right and Haraila Odinga is a Kenya. So if we decide that individually, this is a person we want the community to support, the community will go and sit down in the ballot box of 2022 and express that particular willingness to support on the ballot. Now that's what you said. Let's take a look at what Peter Kenneth said. Fibiotu Mekuja has two representations of two communities to talk together and to work together. I don't know if it's true, but there are many communities in Kenya who want to support each other. If they want to support each other, they need to support each other. Alright, that is a wonderful Peter Kenneth, your response to that. What do you think about that? He talked about working together as communities, which I think is very good because it's about unity of a country and my friend actually should know better because it was a national cohesion. Cohesion and equal opportunities. Equal opportunities of course, which means it's about inclusion, but national cohesion is about bringing the country together. So I think what they were saying is really, really wonderful and I would encourage it. The only thing I would want to also tell my brother that he's making some inferences which I would actually say the kettle calling the pot black and why I'm saying so is just two days so one day ago we saw somebody saying a prayer and the person who was saying a prayer said sulemani through a stone at Goliath and Goliath, but I forget whether it's a felpunglu or I don't know which which, what the sound of the falling was, but if you have such a bishop laying on of hands, and I'm speaking as a Christian and I know what laying on of hands is. I don't know what you are laying hands on. You are laying hands on the, you know, really it's almost like when soul, when soul had been, when the Holy Spirit had departed from soul, then you will have sulemani laying hands on you who came to Goliath and said Goliath. Sulemani lay hands on Goliath. Who was laying Goliath with stone Goliath with stone will really lay hands on you. You know, it wasn't supposed to be sulemani. Yeah, of course, it was asleep. It was asleep of the tongue. No, no, no, no. You know, and let me tell you, let me tell you. Kenya is a country, that is a Christian country and we know those who never attend churches. We know those who complain of us taking our donation to churches saying that we are carrying our donation in saks. And there they never brought in power backs and the Christians or the churches refused. We know those who have always distant themselves with the church, but as Christians, we know the importance of going to church. And the mistake, the sleep of the tongue was not from the deputy president because I know she's actually trying to insinuate that probably, you know, we will meet with all Christians, we will walk with all Christians, we will go to prayers because some of us, for me I went to school that is church based. Most of the schools that are special schools for persons with disability are church based. So when you see some of us going to church, we have a history with the church. And if you people don't go to church, then probably that is your faith. Let me respond to that actually before you actually seek your clarification. I'm glad that my friend is saying that he went to school where he went to church. And if you actually read your Bible, both Old Testament and New Testament, and the Old Testament basically talks about laws and rules, but the New Testament talks about a period of grace and a period of faith. And if you look at the Old, the New Testament, it tells you, look at the book of Matthew, it tells you that even when Jesus teaches us how to pray, our Father who art in heaven, it says don't go to market places like the Pharisees and make a loud noise about how you're praying. But let you pray in private without announcing how you are so spiritual. Let us not take the tendency of the Pharisees. If you are actually a Christian, our Father who is all knowing, knows what is in your heart. And I'm telling you Ram, we are told that many are called, but few are chosen. And you might think you are called, but you will not be chosen. Only God knows who is chosen. Only God knows who is chosen. The same Bible horn up Solomon. We need to build the house of God. Because of building the house of God. When we go to church and build the house of God, it is God that have directed us to go and build a sanctuary for God now. But the same Bible tells you let not what your right hand does. Let not let your left hand know. And it is the same Bible that actually praised the woman who only gave a coin because that's all she had. Why did you not bring your coin? Why are you saying that we are not carrying our money? Let me come to you. She have all of a sudden developed spiritual eyes. She knows that money that is taken to church. She knows those who will not go to heaven. And it is the same Bible that says don't give me. I didn't actually do that, but the spirit is convicting him. Because one of the laws of the spirit is to convict men of sin. So the spirit is convicting him of sin. And we will continue praying for you that the spirit may convict you of sin. We have always prayed for you so that at least you can depart.