 Everybody welcome back to esoteric Atlanta. I am co-hosting today with our friend rocker Mike How are you doing Mike? It starts off with Andrew and Peter and they're literally trying to dodge the draft these two kids And so for those who are not aware when Vietnam was going on I mean, I think my father was a few years shy of the draft So he was a little bit. I know I think they were born in like 1950 my parents were born in like the late 50s But there were certain things that got you out of the draft at the age of 18. What were these particular? I'll talk about that. My dad my dad was in Vietnam when I was born. Okay. He did two tours over there But he actually enlisted he wasn't drafting What could get you out of it was being in college Okay, or if you were involved in a church in some way flat feet, you know Fisted dirt visit certain physical. Oh, yeah certain physical issues, right would get you out if you had I don't even ask that question anymore now. No, but you got a you also got to remember We're not talking about New York in the 21st century. We're talking about New York in the 70s the 60s the 60s and 70s, right? I mean the pews of churches were filled Catholicism was Still practiced like not just for Christmas Easter and Whatever other holiday you want to throw in there So there was there was a there was a lot of taboo in Very smart and then you wrote you wrote for his school magazine Okay, which was called Horizon at Christopher Columbus and he wrote a paper an article for them for the magazine About the occult. Sure. Okay. This was in high school. I It was about alchemy which is changing matter usually into gold or something like that changing matter from one thing to another An interesting subject for somebody to write in the school paper. Don't you think yeah? He was also he's also a member of men's though, which is which is like oh, yeah, you know very intelligent people, right? And the state the orthodox is Eastern. Okay, which means it's Byzantine Greek orthodox is Eastern Ethiopian Egyptian Coptic Russian orthodox they all fall under these categories of the Eastern You know orthodox or you could you know the word it says Slavonic, which is interesting because I think Pratsky was Ukrainian or something Wasn't he yeah, so yeah something like that the most important piece though is is that the bishops that were made bishops? In the Eastern orthodox faith and the the Roman Catholic faith all all share the same lineage voting all going all the way back To St. Peter. Yeah, like this was called the orthodox Catholic Catholic Church in exile Slavonic orthodox Catholic Church in exile. There's things in that book that you know Fill holes that are in the Bible. Okay, if you read the Old Testament, it'll tell you You know about Noah and all that and it mentions Fallen angels and it mentions the Nephilim and who they were selling a lot of rare books The reason why this matters I think in the world of David Berkowitz and the son of Sam Colt and and other cults around that time period is It appears that there were you know To kind of use a I guess like a New York turn There was there were the street guys who were like the Berkowitz types the car types and then there was the more upper echelon You know the the thing is they were the ones that were really purchasing these books And the ones that had the money to fund these types of operations. It's all the way west on the Hudson River For people who have not been to New York when you go into Manhattan You have you have two rivers. You have the Hudson and you have the East River the East River is Is you know, that's like kind of like the 95 section I guess you would say right to get to you know, you go to FDR drive whatever You know the Hudson Rivers, you know, you got the head hunt. You got the West Side Highway The Hudson River set for people don't know separates New York and New Jersey, right? Oh the East River separates Manhattan from the rest of Brooklyn Queen and low Island on the far end And and even the Bronx too at the top of the East River they call it the Harlem River right there But it's all the same thing, right Makes no sense for him to move there geographically with his job. It's definitely Some weird connections there You know Yeah, that's it the process church of the final judgment freaks me out I'm not gonna lie. They they freak me out. There's just something very sinister. Yeah, you got to change their reaction But you also have to put it in their face right here, right? Yeah, what we what we've seen over the last four or five years in the world and in particularly in this country What I'll get into specific we all know what we're talking about. I think is is Obviously There's there's evil and obviously it's in your face Helen Helen Bay Park was really the epicenter the early epicenter of of the Sun of Sand called It's it's all there was all he was also affiliated with that book upon in Hudson, New York, right Chris, right? Yes And it was an esoteric bookstore. Yeah, there's there's an there was a there's a rare bookshop in Hastings near near That's right, excuse me not there was there was a there was a there was a bar I believe it's called the West End bar where they all hung out The the old beatniks hung out there. They were drained of blood totally drained of their blood That case has still gone unsolved. It's probably never going to be solved Due to the fact that neither New York or New Jersey really want to investigate it because they can't agree on who should be Investing in guy worked in a bodega. I think he was also a super of a building nearby The guy is like a 95 year old Hispanic man about 4 foot 11 There's no way he was gonna, you know grab up a kid in the middle of the street like that, you know It just was impossible