 they don't want to get beat by the girl and then as soon as I put my helmet on and I'm on the track like I'm a **** like what if I beat you I like that that's okay that's okay welcome in rendezvous with Lindsay today Lindsay is an indie pro driver so that road to india we've got usf 2000 indie pro indie light indica right it's like the equivalent to formula three in the f1 so f4 f3 f2 f1 all right so tell me about how you started where the passion came from yeah so I basically went to a go-kart track for a birthday party when I was 11 just my family's never been into racing I'm from Colorado originally so I grew up snowmobiling like four wheeling all that fun stuff so when I went to the go-kart track I ended up being quicker than all the adults all the boys like all of that we just did the rental cards the outdoor ones though and then the owner of the track was like oh you should get her her own you know rotex mini max cart and so my dad bought me one and I ended up winning the regional championship my first year then I kind of just worked my way up from there I did rotex junior race nationally with that and then I did shifter carts so I did the I did the stock Honda which like super gnats and stuff it's called scuza in America but it wasn't kz it was like a different shifter car okay yeah but it was still it was a lot of fun and then that's kind of how I think it all sparked and then from there I moved up to I tested in usf 2000 and I did some skip barber schools like you know you go to like some of the transition I did that and I was going to race usf 2000 and then my dad you know my family unfortunately racing is so expensive so my parents couldn't financially support me and they said it's either you know college or racing and they kind of forced they said you need to go to college so I went to their right yeah I got my degree I went to San Diego state I did race my freshman year of college in these funny cars called legend cars they were kind of so I won the championship in that um in 2015 2016 my freshman year of college and then yeah the unfortunately sponsorship ran out and I didn't race for three to four years and but I got my degree in business so I graduated back in 2019 right before covid hit which was what's good but then yeah last year 2020 didn't race last year I raced touring cars and some skip barber f4 stuff and then now this year big step up to yeah that's a big step it's a big step yeah look it's basically jumping from yeah f4 it was a slowed down version of f4 too so they were pretty pretty slow cars up to this which is so you're discovering most of the tracks yeah I mean it's I've never been to Toronto I've never done a street race before so I'm really excited for this weekend a bit nervous but you know I'm just gonna build my way into it you know luckily I've been to indy and road america which are the other two tracks I've driven this year so they went decent like I don't have too high of expectations for my first year in this because they did make such a drastic jump that I just want to learn and get better and be on pace and so next year we're going to do another year of indy pro and hopefully compete for you know wins and podiums yeah the pace is there you know um in indy I during the race I did I was a tenth off the fastest lap in race pace so like the race pace is there I just need to work on my qualifying yeah but the qualifying if you had a break you know three four years it's so intense and it's so about one lap exactly that everything is to go right that yeah if you kind of lose a bit the momentum yeah and it was such a new car and so much more down course new tires I've never driven I feel like it's just learning it's a toronto exciting yeah yeah straight so you get a bit different obviously you need to stay away from the wall yeah what do you think's the biggest difference between just a road course and a street course it's just that on road course you know if you overcook the braking point and you go two ways in the grass it's not a big deal yeah it's a few toe links and you might be out for the weekend you know depending on yes but I feel like qualifying when you get a right lap so it's just a special feeling yeah did you love car when or small cars when you were a kid because you know I've got three kids two boys and one girl and I see my boys playing all the car at the time it's cars yeah all the time no my daughter she doesn't care at all honestly played a lot of video games growing up with my brother so I didn't play with toy cars but I would play like Mario Kart a lot growing up in the gate the racing games but um I honestly just loved outdoor activities I've loved a snowmobile I love to go fast like on a jet ski my mom would put me in front of her lap and I would push her hand to go faster when I was three like I always wanted to go faster whether it's snowmobiling jet skiing like just any sort of motorized vehicle I've always just like had a drive to go faster even when I was like three years old but I never played with like toy cars or really I never really had an interest in actual cars it was more just the aspect of racing and being fast like you know and I think that's even today there's a big car community in California and sometimes people ask me they're like oh you race well what type of car is this and what type of engine I'm like I'm not a car fanatic I love cars but I'm not like a gearhead I just love the passion the sport of racing the speed and the sport yeah I just love love that you know they may be a little bit stupid questions how do the boys behave they behave differently with you do they well in karting kind of I think guys are yelling they don't want to get beat by the girl especially in like when they're boys and so sometimes I felt like I have a bit of a target on my back like they would make really stupid decisions and passes that just weren't you know you shouldn't have done and so I think sometimes that was just their ego growing up and I think it's gotten better I think I do find a lot of like guys wanting to help me and I do see a lot of support which is which is awesome but I just think there needs to be more opportunities for women which I think the W series is great I wish I wish they would put that funding towards putting women in Formula 3 or Formula 4 but I still think you know they're helping women and I think that's awesome I think it's still great that series it's great to see that yeah some girls are doing in the car one day I would love to see girls doing Formula 1 I know hopefully I want to see a girl do it too but as you say I guess at the beginning it's hard because yeah you young teenager don't really want to be beaten by the girl no they don't behind the wheel wheel the same you know exactly like I'm such a smiley I feel like I'm very bubbly and nice off track and then as soon as I put my helmet on and I'm on the track like I'm a **** like yeah I just I'm more I'm way more aggressive and people are like I did not expect you to be like that I just I don't feel like a girl or a guy you know it's just one it's just a driver it's just a driver yeah yeah you have to be right yeah you are driving fast trying to make passes being competitive you can yeah you can be smiley and nice and it's not a racing car but once you're in there it's you're smiling and nice too I feel like some yeah some drivers are very serious and I think it's just their personality but it's some people take life too seriously outside of the trip paddock you know take it seriously without taking it yourself yourself seriously yeah that's the that's just a wide balance exactly but it's awesome and that's what I like in any kind you know I like yeah it's way more chill and with the drivers with you with everyone it just feels like it's pretty cool it's more of a family in IndyCar from what I've seen it's just much more relaxed it is and at the end there's a community there's respect between drivers I don't know if it comes because of the ovals yeah and ovals you have to rely on the other not to be stupid yeah bigger than it you know can be both life in danger didn't Max just say he doesn't want to do they need 500 because he's like I don't want to risk my life yeah yeah and it's true it's it's valid absolutely yeah so it's there's a lot of respect for each other I think I said the same before I came to India and you're like screw them no I'm doing over did you like it was it worth is there a different thrill with it yeah there's something there's something very special about it on super speedway like Texas or India is not so much a driving skill but it's it's more your racing skill and how you understand how things gonna plan out on short ovals like Iowa or Gateway then this is a lot of driving and it's I think I prefer it more we have to drive well I didn't do it this year but next year we have to drive at Lucas oil and it's the smallest it's like 0.3 miles and you really yeah any lights doesn't even run it because it's too powerful like and I arguably would say indy pros a little bit too fast is it the one in Indian outside oh yeah it's like a bus yeah it is the laps are like 15 seconds it's crazy well now you know what we do 18 seconds yeah so you see yeah but it yeah it is quite something with it it's it's different just to feel in the car and how it behaves and first of all it doesn't go straight on the straight lines it's so weird initially it's over when you're starting the car up and it like wants to know you're like what when you get it it's it's cool and indy 500 if you have the chance to do it one day I hope one day that's the goal maybe one day I hope so maybe I'll still be racing maybe I know what if I race you in like three well because I'm hoping three to four years that's the goals what if I beat you I like that would you be okay that's okay no there's 10 questions that I'm gonna ask you okay is your bed made right now my bed in California is made because I'm leaving for a month I'm going to Europe after this for a few weeks but my bed at the hotel is no I'm made at all yeah what's your guilty pleasure in and out animal fries oh what's one of your nicknames little brew little brew it's like people in high school called me that and could be my rap name can you wrap no not at all what item is worse spending more money on oh cars or racing it you forget how much money you actually are spending but it's just you love it so much so I mean that's cliche but true if you could afford any car which one would you drive the law Ferrari is someone so basic I love it it's my dream car I mean McLaren P1 also the sun is nice too I love I don't know but the law Ferrari your celebrity crush I would have to say Leo Leo DiCaprio that's so basic or Christian Bale but when he's in American Psycho spiders I think it's called arachnophobia I actually am terrified of bugs like I don't mind going 160 miles an hour in the pro car but if you put us if a spider was right here I would lose my mind what do you usually answer the phone how do I answer the phone yeah it's funny I always answer my hello like with a question and everyone's like you know it's me calling you have caller ID but it's something I don't know why I always am like hello and they're Lindsey it's your mom like you know it's me it's not like a stranger any I Eden talent piano I can play the piano yeah it's awesome why is your happy place if not the track then it's at Laguna beach I love being at the beach with my friends and I love to travel so well thank you very much it was a pleasure talking to you yes pleasure as always make sure you subscribe you like you follow Lindsey on instagram I'll see you on track see you on track later