 what is going on guys it's your boy dpj here today with another destiny video and in today's destiny video i asked the question of whether the thorn should be nerfed while giving it guys my personal opinion and also solutions as to how to nerf this weapon while still keeping that massive punch this thing packs now in the description below is a straw poll where you guys can vote yes or no and whether you think this weapon should be nerfed or not and i'll give it a few days and i'll send it straight to bungee personally so be sure to check out that poll and vote yes or no and whether you think the thorn should be nerfed okay so get into the video the thorn is a weapon you can obtain by completing the light in the dark exotic bounty which you can obtain randomly when cashing in them daily bounties steps to these bounties which need to be completed to obtain this weapon are as follows step one complete the summoning piece on the moon step two earn 500 points by killing hide on the moon step three use void damage to defeat guardians in a crucible step four obtain an infusion of light from the speaker and step five kill exile the unwed so to be honest it isn't too difficult to obtain once you have got the exotic bounty a natural fact i don't think i play with anybody or no anybody who don't actually own the thorn hand cannon making this thing very popular and easy to come across now please guys do not get it twisted the thorn is a weapon i do use and do actually quite good with my opinion has nothing to do with how much i enjoy or hate this weapon now in the past i've had countless people tell me this weapon is too powerful for what it is but the major hate towards this weapon i noticed came about when the trials of psorias started and 50 percent of people soon realized the thorn is a monster for this game type and started using it and now the trials of psorias is basically ran by thorns to the point for me where at least one person in every single game i have played over the past three or four weeks has been using a thorn whether that be on my team or the enemy team for me personally it isn't my first choice of weapon but will 90 of the time pull out my thorn when i get annoyed by somebody else using it i mean if you can't beat them you join them it's as simple as that now let's take a look at this weapon and the punch it packs in that pvp slash trials of all psorias now this weapon will shoot three bullets per second meaning it shoots 180 rounds per minute capable of emptying its entire clip in 3.15 seconds now the damage this thing dishes out is remarkable now not including find around or mark of the devourer here it does 56 to the body on average and 84 to the head if you include mark of the devourer which only comes into play once every chain of bullets you land on an enemy until it wears off it will do 98 to the body and 126 to the head easily making this weapon a two-shot kill with final round and mark of the devourer this thing does 117 to the body and 154 to the head which is absolute massive power damage per second without mark of the devourer is 168 to the body and 252 to the head and it reloads as standard in three seconds the thorn also has incredible range and great stability easily making this weapon able to compete with scout rifles and sniper rifles across map which really shouldn't be the case so you guys can see by its status thorn is a monster of a weapon and in my opinion and this is coming from someone who actually likes and enjoys the weapon i think it does need a nerf and i actually think bungee may have something planned if they don't they are planning it i can guarantee that trials of a source has become unbearable to many people because of this one weapon yes a lot of people complained about final round and how cheap it is which in my opinion it is pretty cheap but people will use what they need to use to win trial of a source is a competitive knockout game mode you'd be stupid not to use the weapons which help you win the game and this goes for the thorn the thing about the thorn is it's capable on every map final round snipers ain't and people know this so they take advantage and you cannot blame them whatsoever but this is the very thing that makes a game mode become stale really quickly the point of everyone using the same weapon it doesn't allow other people to use other weapons either because they just don't stand a chance and will always find themselves coming back to the thorn and it's this very reason i believe bungee have something planned for this weapon like they did with auto rifles and pulse rifles pulse rifles were useless at one stage where auto rifles absolutely owned because auto rifles were being overused bungee nerfed them to the point of them being absolute garbage and because pulse rifles were nonexistent in pvp bungee buffed them to the point of them being the best type of weapon to use in pvp and this is the case with the thorn they know it is being overused and i believe they will take action to balance it out but like what they did with auto rifles i don't think they need to ruin a weapon with a nerf this is what i think they should do lower critical damage from 84 to 75 and lower damage caused by mark of the devourer 230 from 42 this way two critical hits won't kill even with mark of the devourer but three headshots will lower body shot damage to 45 from 56 this way it will take four body shots to kill also making it so that landing two body shots and one head shot still won't kill even with mark of the devourer maybe only have mark of the devourer coming to play if you land a headshot but i do think they definitely need to nerf that range maybe decrease it by 25 to 40 percent that would be fine applying my ideas to the thorn i believe will make people with that true gun skill stand out and still own people with the thorn but that's just my personal opinion but guys that is what i think of the thorn but like i've said i do think bungee have got a nerf planned for this weapon let me know what you guys think about the thorn down below in that comment section do you enjoy using it do you think it's overpowered let me know down below don't forget guys if you want to vote yes or no on whether this weapon should be nerfed check out the straw poll in the video description like i said in a few days i will send it directly to bungee but guys i hope you enjoyed the video do drop a like i do appreciate the support if you guys want to get that dpj apparel there is a link in the video description and you can rock my sexy ass claws thanks for stopping by as always and peace out till next time peace