 So we had the ID TechEx show. Hi. Hi, Charvax. Pleasure. Who are you? I'm Viliana K. And we know each other very well. I mentioned to you in Silicon Valley and Santa Clara that I'm working on the publishing of my patent that I will be able to discuss for the first time here at Berlin 2019 ID TechEx show. Is that the patent? The mathematical formula? That's the core of the patent, exactly. So what are you showing here? Do you have some art going on that has to do with what? It has to do with the formula. What you see, the formula there and what you see here is the physical digital object of quantified data. Quantified data. What does that mean? It's an artistic concept that attributes mass to data for the first time through the digital mass particle. As a result a technical entity becomes a new type of matter which I call digital mass. From that digital mass I can produce at any time an original and unique artwork. So we have for the first time a pure artistic concept that brings a new type of technology. An artistic concept brings a new type of technology? Yes! So what does that mean? Like your artistic intuition creates something tangible in the world or? Not exactly. It has traditionally, technology has always been used to make art. For the first time today because of the particular circumstances you have a pure artistic concept quantification of data that can actually bring birth to a new unique powerful technology that can eventually produce tangible objects in a format of artworks. So can you explain? So let's go around. What are we looking at here? That's mathematics and artistic concept together. What you have here is the concept of quantification of data. What you have here is the object energy that can be generated at any time virtual or tangible. What you have here is the digital mass. What you have here is the digital mass particle x1 and what you have here it's a constant. Constant A as artist. The digital mass particles are created and can be modified and can be enriched exclusively as a relation to the artist intervention. It states that art fundamentally can be created exclusively and uniquely by human being. Even though what I'm dealing with is data. So you have mass? That's it. Mass. And you have object? Object. And the E is energy. As this object contains certain amount of digital mass particles. This is through the digital mass particles I have given mass to data. As a result every object having being made out of certain amount of digital mass particles has an energy. So you live in Geneva right? Yes. Is it inspired by the CERN or it sounds like something that they would talk about in CERN. Mass and energy? It's inspired by art. It's an artistic concept. It's a paradox. Let's put it that way. However it's real. I am producing an artwork. It has a tangible and a virtual object. So your data as artwork. That's what you said in the first video we did right? That's it. That's it. And now it really explains the three steps. Original data set input that is given to me to be transformed into artwork. Step number two. Quantification of that original data set into unique data set and matter as digital mass. And third unique original artwork that can be done from the data mass at any moment. And the process is irreversible. This is you? This is the artist. That's me. It's a constant. It's me. It's you. When it comes to the artwork it's me. And what do you say here? The process of quantification of data consists in the transformation of any ordinary data set into an extraordinary set of data as artwork. And so this is like very special art right? This is not the same art as you see in the museum. This is like the because there's been there was let's say the renaissance and then there was minimalism and then this this is the next thing or what? Let's say history is not your forte. But you got the point. Yes it's nowhere to be seen by here but here. Yes. So what's next? You take this and you bring it out to them to market. That's exactly what I want to do. I would like to be able to build my platform where this three-step process of input data set, quantification of the data set into digital mass and the production of unique artworks can be done in automated way where everybody regardless of their where they are regardless of their location, regardless of their age, regardless of their income, culture or gender can commission artwork out of their personal data. So that means you don't have to modify every piece of art. They just put it inside the algorithm and they print out the... There's no algorithm. The algorithms is simply to build the structure to hold the data. I manually create the digital mass by being able to take any digital mass particle at any moment, move it, put it together, create new digital mass particles and basically modify the data set at its structural level and create something totally unique. Is this... Is digital a good thing for art? Like the whole digital world, right? So maybe some artists think they want to stay and remain analog. How do you incorporate the digitalness? That's an important question. It's really for each artist to decide how it wants to do it. My understanding of it is through the process of data quantification. This is how I try to convey the message of the production of a unique artwork that is not replicable and it's not reproducible. So when you get this into the market, what is the form? Is it like an application? It can be in a virtual format as an application, virtual reality, augmented reality. It can be in a physical tangible object as a 3D printing, 3D mailing in different materials and with anything that is to come in the future as a possible end format and then the technology can bring as a choice to the customer to decide. Yes. And you have a patent? Yes. Global patent? Well, for the time being, after that, there is a timing. Yes. All right. Cool. So what's going to happen next? Because I already asked you a few times, but what's really happening next? Next, I really want to be able to reach as many possible human beings and to show people that they can establish an intimate personal relationship with data like they have not imagined before and create a unique artwork out of it, an artwork that they can live with it, that they can give it to the next generation that can remain forever. Do you have a lot of orders? No. So how does it, what like people can find you? People can find me on my internet site and commission on Biliana K and not be afraid to ask questions and say, hey, I would like to commission an original artwork. This is my budget. How can you do that? How can we start a conversation and do it in the same way you commission art? You want to transcend reality and you want to live with it and you want to cherish it and you want to give it to the next generation. That's it. And you have a social media presence, right? Yes. And there's a friendly guy over there. Yes. Hi. Hi. Who are you? I'm fine and you. All right. So where do you put this stuff? Where is it going to go? You have a... It's going to go on Twitter at Biliana K. It's going to go on Instagram again at Biliana K and Facebook. Yes, at Biliana K and YouTube.