 Welcome to the breakfast and plus CV Africa seal our type for us to check out the papers this morning We call it off the press as always would have a Ziko Nyai took who joins the conversation He's a public affairs analyst and he will be helping with the analysis on some of the National stories and big stories this morning But I like to set up with the punch newspaper and as always the attention would be on the top stories Looking at the banner caption for the punch newspaper this morning Lai Aregbechola Yari Kiyamo lose out APC inaugurates State chairman. That's what you find as a board caption But the issue of having the National Convention That was slated for the 26th of February is still in question and quite shaky underneath you have several riders I have been invited for inauguration I am in a booger Abdul Razak led group chair has quoted a Beodun Omar Gege faction set for inauguration among so other groups in limbo inauguration Unfortunate and factions lament won APC against contempt of court These are the riders underneath that boat caption on the punch this morning away from that you have fact That's the federal executive council approves 200 and I beg your pardon federal executive council approves 328.87 railway consultancy services and You were looking at 115.4 billionaire Katzina Road dualization and You also have federal government states local governments suffered 267 billionaire shortfall in the 2021 FAC allocation Senate laments killings abductions and demands fighter jets deployment So I mean security expert have constantly question question You know the strategy that's been put out You know by the federal government in tackling the issue of security and the big question is I mean with the use of fighter jets As brilliant as that sound does that solve the problem does that really solve the problem? What kind of war we faced with at this point in time? But of course the issue of security is very sensitive and you don't expect the government to come out to begin to tell you their Strategies away from that. We'll see looking at the punch newspaper this morning. You also have federal government request $600 million well-banked loan to fight erosion orders in nothing state Now now that's also on the punch newspaper Ogun student protesting abduction and stone-please van barricade highway Now on the issue of security just as we talked we talked about it's also very very Paramount here now Lagos court strikes out 226 real 226 millionaire railway Vandalism case over jurisdiction and that will also be on the punch newspaper this morning While you have the quarrel local government Keter kid chairman are reigned for five millionaire in heritage debt nine killed in Ogun tank explosion and all the road crushes This is according to reports that's been made available on the punch newspaper this morning Aviation Union vows to ground flights February 8 over a minimum wage and others I'm hoping that we have you know a very robust conversation As regards the aviation sector and just away from that Commandant withdraws rep security details for proposing NSC DC's crabbing That's also another issue you have on the punch newspaper and Ogun or your to establish security team plan CCTV on highways X Convids others arrested for armed robbery rape and mother in a kitty state not really very sad and you also have Legos, I think we took all of that But that's the much we can take this morning on The punch newspaper away from the punch newspaper this morning quickly. Let's also take a look at the daily independent Buhari to not ease you will no peace in coming month That's what the president is quoted to say Buhari to not ease you will no peace in coming months Boatley captioned this morning on the daily independent and that's the statement from the president You might just say this that's some assurance PDP will be fair just in choice of presidential candidate That's according to party, but the big issue surrounding the conversation and the people's Democratic Party one of the dominant parties as the now as long as the Nigerian political Affairs concerned some persons are saying would there be a consideration in the people's Democratic Party to zone the office of the Presidency to the south when you look at the issue of rotation and zoning some people would say that that's not Constitutionally recognized and you want to agree with that a gentleman's agreement But would the people's Democratic Party factor the issue of zoning off, you know The office of the presidency to the Southeast region fingers across we see how things actually unfold and Still staying with a daily independent newspaper. Let's also check out that writer this morning underneath that caption and the writer reads So you also have a void zoning as Criteria for leadership selection. That's what La Mido is quoted to say I mean it feels like we're just contradicting a lot 2023 elections Abdul Salami Abu Bukka once politicians against overheating polity That's what you find this morning away from that 2023 dine de Bo presidency is great injustice That's what Edwin clerk has been very very vocal against the issue of I mean as regards the issue of zoning and the Presidency for the saddened region federal government approves a resumption of flights by Emirate into Nigeria Ethiopian Airlines return be 737 max aircraft 35 months after Crash Some people would say that's a good one for the Nigerian economy Ogun or you're to install CC TV on highways and raise border security tax force I pop court finds a Tony general of the Federation 200,000 narrow over shoddy trial of Kanna's core defendant All right Senate acts federal government to bomb bandits out of the high downs Move to establish commission to cater for poor age Nigerians now the Borneo state government Governors regard all of this has also come out to say that the repentant Boko I mean repented the 10 bandits have truly repented and the big question that's been put out to him is how do you know This lessons have truly repented what happens to the law? Why can't the law take his cost because over time you have security experts and all those arguing for the fact that the constant Exemption the constant body language has been given to this persons who perpetrate this crime has constantly Emboldened and encourage a lot of people to and be engaged in you know the issue of crime and criminality In the country especially in the nothing part of the country, but that's so much We can take this morning on a daily independent. We quickly move away from the daily independent newspaper this morning Let's also check out the leadership newspaper. Quit raise southern leaders tell article tumblewell and And sorry key orders Quit raise southern leaders tell article tumblewell. Sorry key orders reps This is as regards, you know the declaration of interest to run for president nothing youths came for vice president I am not I'm vice president slot on the article week is quoted article visits IBB in Mina and you also have the X APC reps from new block CBN ratifies Ahmed Abdullah his appointment as the FBH hold cold shaman and cool scares or cool scare in Guinea-Bissau whereabouts of president Unknown well Because I said yesterday the reports on the table says That the president said he was actually safe. I mean everything was in control. It was a Cuda was attempted body filled however because you have security personnel who had everything in control but different report however fingers crossed let's see how all of this pan out for us and Just before move away from the leadership news paper this morning reps chief president Muhammad Abouhari over on approved spending of nation's savings very sad killings Sultan six effective implementation of security policies and You also have the United States launches. No interview visa renewals for Nigerians Some people will say that's a good one, but let's see how all of that pants out and just before we have is I took share his thought we quickly check out the nation news paper this morning take battle to bandits orders Senate tell service chiefs Constantly we have had of instructions from the president and now we also have the Senate telling the service chief take battles You know to the bandits, but Has that really solved the problem? Have we seen any improvement is the question you want to ask kidnap suspect short dead after short shootout with security Operatives in bini ouchie Road. I know You also have or shun APC a reg bashella group loses out in court and the federal executive council approves 328.87 million dollars for real-world consultancy services and We'll just quickly take this one. Nobody can zone PDP presidential ticket says la me though Tambour well, we need a competent leader Quite interesting, but that's too much we can take this morning on the papers Let's quickly have a Ziko. Yeah, I took who's on standby share his thoughts on some of the top stories on a national dailies It's good to have you join us a Ziko. Yeah, I took Thank you so much, but let's start off with the nation newspaper this morning take battle to bandits orders Senate tells service chiefs and you know, it feels like the Senate is also towing the part of the president where they are also asking That service chief need to act all of these orders has been ongoing But it feels like we're getting little or no results at the end of the in terms of security Is it there two things that we must hope to tell you in Nigeria? The very first thing is that government of governance has been over commercialized That's the first thing so that a lot of people in power Service is not their default mode It's what I can get And somebody will tell you that generals make their biggest kill in times of war What we are having with the bandit as much as it is ravaging the nation as long as much as it is Bringing us to our knees in more ways than one because besides business. There's actually real honest threat to life on a daily basis You know, if it's like just give me the money We don't give me the money I beat you up and then let you go Not kill actually kill in ways that if you hear the details you really feel bad While this is going on Of course investors when they say the president was going looking for investors at times like this I just want that I mean where they were gonna come from one of the first rooms in new investors giving them a conducive environment But even monetary normal or physical policies, but first human safety Now bring all these things together Some people are benefiting while this is going on Some who are having the supplies for the money taking and services are making a key deal and all the things and to that extent They put their personal interest far above the interests of the nation For so long as these two groups of people exist What we need is a leader that can communicate to Nigerians Why he's got to take a very hard decision? I've been around the world. I've said this time and time again I've never seen people as easy to govern as Nigerians as Believing as Nigerians as easy to forget as Nigerians I tell you all they need is just be a little honest with me Just tell me that you mean well so that by the time we have a leader that means well They will look at the root of every problem and at the root of this insurgency are two problems What are they number one? Take the wind of their sail or you take the oxygen of their flame and they would die What is the wind? What is the oxygen? It is the recruits that they have Why do the recruits go to them? It's not because they believe in their ideology but because they are hungry and they just want to mean to life You know a time comes when a father Kills a child to eat because one of them has to eat to survive. So the question is who is going to eat who? Before we get to that level, how do we do solve that problem? let's look at honestly providing jobs for our children and Creating an environment that gives them wings to fly that's number one number two Is the hard part as a leader you need to be able to take hard decisions These guys have been emboldened to a point of no return You can't start to Know how to do them with kids gloves. No, the time has come when the governor is taking the first right step That's declaring them as terrorists because in international engagement where we are part of engagement for bandits, it's different from terrorists Terrorists you can actually get a hard You know attack on them If we've appeal to this which we have appealed more than enough We've got to know that it's not with collateral damage. It's sad. I hate to say things But if I'm going to eat this omelette, I'm gonna have to break the shell as much as I love the shape of the shell They've got to own those people out of that place Unfortunately have to subscribe to that. Mr. President has said that the Senate has joined in saying that question is will the army generals Accept that and if they don't what will be their reason? I think the time has come when we've got to close that eyes I told the story of my friend We're an accident and they were trying to save the leg and the blood was flying too much All the money in the world, but he could not last three hours Eventually he's got to say you got to choose are you gonna cut off the leg? Yes, we take it to Germany and things like that. They will save the leg But we don't have the time what we do keep it and you die or cut the leg and was an arm actually and Today has no arm, but he's got a life Let them bomb those who are gonna do some of our children, but I think the rest of our children Would they want to sleep in peace? But the next question would be does that really solve the problem because I mean the issue of security especially across the entire countries and come passing and so What if that you know bombing of the region goes on or a particular location? Does that sort of the other problem is the problem? I'll tell you in life some things are statements As of today, we are romanticizing with these who are not taking our serious When they know that the game is up, they will look for either another country or look for another trade But as of today, they have no deterrent in life Anywhere they are setting global, you know what you call statutes of general application They are setting global standpoint and that is you reward Good did and punish bad did the moment you have these two skills in your hand The skills of reward and the skills of punishment you discover that I Never drunk. I've never taken alcohol. No, no, no, that's not correct. I do why but in terms of beer I've never had a beer all my life. Why not because I'm such a nice guy. No the fear of my mother My mother they say Greek saying It simply means that child that has nothing to fear never amounts to anything, you know You've got to know that oh boy this one her if I try to deal with me They fear of my mother made me never to have smoked in my entire life. Never to have had a bottle of beer I think it was a while before I started doing wine No, because I knew that it will catch me when it she catches me They came and no one had the balance is paid the word as for the child I think the federal government has inspiring the world on this Terrorist and that is boiling that when they bring out the big rock It would not say they would not change All right, let's look at the leadership as well The issue of checks and balances is here on this one reps cheat President Muhammad the Buhari over unapproved spending of the nation's saving and one will think that The government or the administration of President Muhammad the Buhari and the APC administration would be strong gone Obeying the law. I mean the Constitution Doing as the law would save spending from the nation's savings account or the Federation account without approval How do you describe that? I believe it on the on the on the National Assembly They have two Compaired Mr. President. I don't believe in a national assembly that is unduly antagonistic But I need a national assembly that know that they were brought in there because and they are paid taxpayer's money because mr. President or the presidency or the executive Must not be allowed to do as they wish one of the three Basic or fundamental functions of the national assembly besides representation and lawmaking is oversight Oversight simply means that we have a budget you run the budget and going out of the budget is an impeachable offense But mr. President like I just said earlier feels Anything can go You can get it with blue mother and first long as he feels that only as long as he has nothing to fear Just like the rich man does not fear justice because he believes I can buy This are the problems that we have people need to sit up and play their role no matter whose ox is gone That is one of the biggest problems that we have I got to an office where the auditor I mean stood up. I don't want to be specific and I was so impressed This guy was at the risk of losing his life. I was just like boy. This is not your company This is what I was at, you know employed to do if they fire me God will tell we'll know that I did what I was supposed to do I'm not being antagonistic. I'm not being difficult I'm just saying let us follow the process like I've been out that line the baby changing the communicated to me now That is what ought to be as at today. Mr. President feels he is Untouchable. We have over day fight his office Or God and it goes not just to the president even the office of the dog knows You know, they feel that they've got everything in their pocket and they can be very brazen and do anything as they wish And it's wrong. So today you want to start a flex your muscles You don't need to talk take one action one decisive action and mr. President wake up. It's like wow Wow, this is not possible. Now you are doing as if you are so helpless. Oh, mr. President You are begging you are feeling you are on all fours. What's that? Doesn't make sense sit up and be the national yeah, it's a national assembly. I expect it to be the Arm that checks the mr. President or the executive and when you do that everybody will walk Through the line and do their jobs But mr. Zika. Yeah, I took how do we I'd like that you explain if you have an idea how the spending should go now before the executive arm of government takes from the Federation account or the president should the national assembly Not be aware of the lawmakers is their process who should actually go ahead to approve that Is it possible that the executive will go ahead and take from the federation account without the knowledge of you know other arms of government From my I would want to go into details on that but from my understanding elementary knowledge of budgeting And we anything not appropriated for in the budget That you do is an impeachable offer from my understanding you present a budget to the national assembly After presenting the budget the budget has two parts. It has income. It has expenditure In the income, which is where we are having the problem now you tell what your sources of funds are going to be Now there are certain statute bodies that are set up for instance the nsia nsia the national nsia, you know They I'm trying to remember the words. I I know what it is all together But now that is set obstetricially as savings And if you are to touch that saving the sovereign wealth If you are to touch that there are processes and procedures And those processes and procedures were set up to ensure that nobody just unilaterally Dips his hands to the tail. That's what we have like the tsa. Everything is captured It was to make for transparency and accountability And before you can touch setting sums, you know, there has to be a process of approval that is given to you Now the summit is being unhappy now because that process of approval is being jettisoned and mr president is acting unilaterally All that is needed Is just a letter because you don't want to become frontational You don't want to become public a letter to the to the executive saying This is against this section of the law And it is an impeachable offense And this matter has been raised on the floor of the house with therefore Advice strongly that you desist from following that route forthwith If you do we will have no option But to have you on trial which is what impeachment is all about Now if you repeat that you can give a second warning by the third one you actually in you know Go ahead Start the process It is at that point that the attorney general would be at liberty To go to court over the issue if he feels that they were right and that is why we have that third arm Which is the judiciary Now when you go to court They will interpret the laws and the laws will say Well, there was a little lakuna somewhere and the mr. President took advantage of that lakuna when that is done They would have gotten themselves The national assembly can then go back be a lawmaking body to go and close that window that was open. I think that my Uh possibly I hope I'm still heard. Yes, we can hear you Okay, good. Good. It means that you have closed that loophole And when you close that loophole and send it to mr. President He can decide not to sign it and if he decides not to sign it You can go back and veto it in which case you have closed that loophole. That's what the law The the the three arms of government. That is how they operate. That is what makes it possible So that's a possibility that the president could probably our the executive arm of government Could probably act on his own in terms of withdrawing funds that are not approved or budgeted for Without the knowledge or the approval of the national assembly They've done it time and time again They have done it time and time again They've become so emboldened by it and they are so brazen about it Not just that there are several other issues where the president has acted unilaterally. How about going to college? Are you aware that you cannot borrow any funds until it is approved? They are setting very stringent processes by the national assembly By time and time again, you see that mr. President borrows money comes to them to to ratify, you know, it was um I had a situation with With a certain augment I was supposed to be paid money and there was a certain urgency to eat and the accountant general At that time, I won't tell you which one. He said pay documentation later. Okay So I was paid the money and the documentation was done. Of course. They trusted me and I did act but you see it procedurally documentation should go through Before payment is made If you find a situation with mr. President takes the decision And then takes it to other people to go and ratify the decision is of the decision being ratified before it is implemented And that's the way this national assembly has acted with the current executive and it's not right All right, uh, just as we co-said out on the paper review this morning Let's also stay with the leadership as we look at the uh header that says Quit raise saddened leaders tell atiku tambour well saraki and others Is it can you Yes, yesterday, uh, one of the reasons I rushed into abuja was to attend some extremely vital and crucial meetings of national input And then in that meeting something came up a man was an extremely furious about this issue of zoning or not zoning And I told him my guy Politics unfortunately is not morality Politics is a game of numbers. That's number one and number two for as long as we talk zoning in our Politics, it means that to that extent. We don't have good governance You know, nobody cares where you come from today. Nobody cares where the coach of the obvious party goes is from All we want is a competent coach that can make us qualify for one call. That's all we care That's why we can really remove our own son and then go ahead go to probably Portugal or somewhere to go and If we if our position did not stop it I'll say if you can look Obama to come and govern us, you know, what am I trying to say? It is that in Nigeria, our constitution does not recognize zoning And governments have made governance such that there is no fairness. There's no equity There's no justice to all the work to all nations of the divide, you know Or what makes a country is that nations come together And nationalities come to other nations in Bibio Nation, Israel Nation, Burikamuni Nation, you know, and all those they come together And when they come together, they subscribe to one man one vote and that is equality of all stakeholders So when you come in as the president of the federal republic of Nigeria, you come in as the father of all nations and nationalities There's no preference. There's not my people. There are people No, they all become that statements that Mr. Buhari made I wish he had animated and lived it. I belong to all I belong to none That is the highest statement that the president can make so within that context nobody cares where you come from We just want you to perform that is one part of the divide The second part of the divide is that like I said politics is a game of numbers APC is stopped right now. Don't be surprised that everybody says no zoning because they're asking No, they're doing the maps. They're not the south where are the votes coming from and they want to win They don't want to be moralists. They want to win as a result. We are asking ourselves Where do the votes come from so that in 2023 So that whoever comes in from our party will win That is the game to their own ground. Nobody's talking morality all these zoning zoning things All you need to do like the sound is they have stars They have people that I love that I I hold in high esteem moral is there. I've said this I like um Peter will be these are people that Nigerians not politicians Votes are going to come from Nigerians. These are people that Nigerians feel. Oh, these guys are nice It's the young guy. Chuka. Chuka Moye. These are people that the young people are gravitating towards So bring them up Do you understand? It's our turn your turn. Nobody's talking turn. We want somebody that is a CEO Want to recruit a CEO from anywhere I wish we had more time uh on the table so we can continue with the conversation What is really really great the for me? I I constantly do not understand Yes, we say that the issue of zoning has not been factored into our constitution And so it does not have any recognition By the law, but this is some agreement that have been uh, you know been looked at It's an agreement that has been respected From time to time when it comes to you know, different region and so But I'm just saying that so what what then is the essence because I mean if you talk about the agreement agreements Should be an agreement when you agree Uh, it should be If if two people agree that they should act in a certain way then they should But of course, we'll constantly say that uh, you know, this is an issue of morality and it's not an issue of the law And so um, it costs for a lot of consent because constantly you have different regions saying we have been marginalized And there's issue of not being fair Pashality Yes I'll tell you this for free you are People listen to you. There's a mindset that you need to have to help us in this country That mindset of understanding what government and governance is Governance is about the management of the resources of the generality of the people of Nigeria And secondly have been fair to all the sites of the divide in Nigeria those two things Number one competence for the office and number two having the heart For the essence of government and governance When you do this You will not run the narrative of the sentiment or where man comes from let the narrative be on Right now we have we have our lives on life support We've become the poorest country in the world the poverty capital of the world Today our narrative should not be running in the the media should not join politicians on the narrative of in north or south They should be narrative of the most competent Most competent not or south You know narrative should take about five percent Okay Ezeko Yaito I have to let you go now, but I'm sure that we'll probably have this conversation You know of camera. Thank you so much for being part of the show and I do appreciate Thank you. Thank you. God bless you All right It's always a great time to have Ezeko Yaito share his thoughts on some of the national issues and we look forward to sharing More of your thoughts on the show. That's the size of it for the paper review when we return That's shortly after what happened today in history because we tell you that being the thought day in the month of february 2022 We will head straight to our first major conversation with the quota for oil production that's been put out by opec Let's see how nigeria is firing. I'll be right back. Stick around