 It's always this competition with yourself to be the best that you can possibly be. Went inside, hit the bag down, and it was like, as I'm passing due by, I'm like, whoa. And why would I go to Stanford? I'm a captain at Cal, at Berkeley. He said to go get the best master's degree in the world. Hard to pass all that. I said, all right, little brother, you making some sense. I had a season and an injury seven years straight up until I got to Stanford. I'm an underdog, right? I was undrafted, you know, mud boy. I got to be that much better than the next guy. Started doing that with the different platforms. I got money in different places. And now the properties and, you know, overall investments, really what I'm doing is diversifying. Like, you know, we got this guy on the team. He's 38 years old. If it was me, I'll come in and I'll beat him out. I'm like, you talking about James Harrison? Normally, I have everybody introduce themselves. I'm talking about their sales real quick, and then we'll kind of get into it. So go ahead. Tell me who you are. My name's Brennan Scarlett. Born and raised here in Portland, Oregon. Central Catholic Ram. Go Rams. Several state championships here in the city. If you know, you know. Went to Cal for four years. Played three years of football there. Played my last year at Stanford. Won a Rose Bowl. Packed 12 championships, the whole thing. And then when I'm undrafted to the Houston Texans, played for five seasons with the Texans. Then went to the Dolphins, played for two seasons in Miami. And then been a free agent this year. Still training, staying ready. I run a nonprofit called The Big Yard here in Portland and got a creative agency that started a couple years ago. I'm running the Beast Guard TV podcast. We have a lot to unpack. I'm excited because you didn't even talk about your investment aspect and the other parts that allow you to really amplify how good of a person you are through your foundation and all those other things. And those things can help you as well. So I'm excited to talk about all those things as well. But you know, we always got to start with the OG. Tell me back, paint the picture, us back in middle school, we was up in the same era. Tell me what the fits was like. Tell me what the kicks was like. What was your knowledge around finance and the home life style, siblings, everything like that. Kind of paint that picture for me. Young, you know, middle school Beast Guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a big Marshalls man. Okay. I'm gonna tell you right now, Marshalls, the Nordstrom Rack, those were my two go-tos. I had coming up sneaker wise. My shoe size was in accordance with my age all the way up until I was 16 years old. Okay. So when I was eight years old, I wore size eight. That was 10. At the time that I surpassed size 13, it started getting real tough out here to get sneakers. It was real tough. Back in the day, it was Zappos.com. It was Audible.com. And then it was the back racks at the Nordstrom Rack. Yeah. Now those were my only options. So I wore a lot of sparies, a lot of vans, a lot of basketball shoes. You know, they were pretty inclusive in the basketball genre. But now it's gotten a little bit better. So yeah, back in middle school, man, it was, it was skinny jeans for a little bit with the vans. During the little Wayne height, you remember that? Yeah, you remember that. And it's evolved over the years. It's evolved. Okay. And you got two siblings? Two siblings. Yeah. And how was that kind of foundation to your lifestyle with your parents? Because some people grew up with one, some people grew up with neither. Some companies grew up with both. Yeah. But I was so blessed. I had my mom, my dad, I had both pairs of grandparents. I just had a really strong support system. And so from the beginning, you know, both of my parents played a really critical role for me. It was like, number one, I felt like I could accomplish anything that I wanted to, anything that I set my mind to. Like my parents did a really good job of framing our lives, me and my siblings' lives in such a way that like anything is attainable. Chase your dreams. And that really stuck with me. And there's one thing I always, always tell the story like of my dad. Whenever me or one of my siblings would say the word can't. Like, ah, man, I can't, I can't do this, this conditioning test or I can't do this homework or I can't do this, whatever the camp was, he would stop us like, no. Right. Don't say can't. We don't say can't. Okay. And that was the type of mindset and then the, just the support system through everything that I did, sports, school, all that. So me always have a question too. Like, how did, what are some, that for sure, but what do you think were some things that also your parents may have said or done that made you feel like that invincible or whatever that you were like, oh, I want to pass this on to my kids one day. That's a good question. Well, I think that number one, as far as like just letting me understand that there's nothing that you, that you can't do that you can't achieve, but then also like, I think the, the ethics of hard work and just, you know, it's one thing to want something to happen. That's a whole other thing to go and make it happen. You want to be a great football player, great hoop or, or the fastest guy on the track, but are you willing to put in the extra work? And I feel like for me, a lot of, a lot of it was just like seeing it. I was, my dad ran track at BYU and then he ran professionally, ran in the Olympic trials up in Canada in 1996. And so I was born in 93. And so for my early years, I saw the way that he was at the track. He was training, you know, he would work for eight hours in a day at the city of Portland. And then afterwards, he's sitting done away track, you know, Saturday, he's up at Lincoln, him and his buddies are training. And so I saw that when I was coming up. And so just kind of inherently understood like, okay, if you want to go do something, you, it's not enough to want it. You actually just, you got to go make it happen. So I think basically, I think I guess the, the point is like, it's more than just what you tell your children. I think it's, it's what you show them in your actions. Yeah, I like that. Okay. So now you get in the middle school and you still like basically your parents is like copping the kicks for you as they can. When does it become like you got to pay for your own stuff? Like for me, it was sophomore, well, actually low-key freshman year, but sophomore year, definitely. Really? Yeah. So I'm gonna be honest, I wasn't the biggest sneakerhead in high school. I was more about hats. Okay. The flatbed new eras, I was a seven and five eighths, you know, when I had Afro, seven and three fourths. But that was what I liked to go by. They used to be like 24 and 99 and lids. The lids at the mall. I used to go every Friday and get work, bro. I used to go up there during lunchtime. We had a game that week. I get a new fitting. I'd be out there, bro. I vividly remember those times. Man, I used to love that, bro. And we used to, I was like, me and one of my good boys, you know, Dmitri, you're my best friend coming up and we used to get each other a hat for Christmas. That was like our thing. And for me, I like always wanted to have the collection of all the, all the fitties, the different colorways and stuff. So I really wasn't buying sneakers like that. Any sneakers that were purchased, my parents would take care of me for Christmas or for any basketball shoes or whatever. It wasn't until college that I really started to get into purchasing my own sneakers. Okay. Okay. So high school comes around this time. How many, what were you, one year apart? Yeah. We were one year apart. Because you graduated in 2010, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we're one year apart. We're playing against each other in high school. I went to Grant. You went to Central. But you went through some injuries. How did you kind of deal with those injuries? Because I had my torn ACL in my sophomore year. And I had a, I had a struggle. Like I was messing up in class. Like I just was like, I was identifying myself as a football player and nothing else. So I kind of like, what am I going to do? Like, you know what I'm saying? And I just started messing up in school. And then I had to get back on track junior year. Yeah. Yeah. No, I remember those are heavy times for me. Like sophomore year was the first time that I had an injury that ended my season. I had a knee that required surgery. And I was out for like six months. And then junior year, I had an ACL. So I was out pretty much, you know, I was out for the rest of the year. Senior year, I broke my collarbone. It's injury after injury for me. And I remember the first time that it happened, or maybe even the second, every time that it happened, like it was always a questioning of like, why me, you know, like questioning my faith, you know, I went to Catholic school coming up. So like questioning God and, you know, why is this happening to me? And then, you know, I think that like where I really found a lot of solace was in my schoolwork. Because I wasn't able to compete on the football field and on the basketball court. So I started to compete in the classroom. And that just was kind of ingrained in my nature. And I think back to my parents, I kind of supported that those educational pursuits. So, you know, they were always tough times of getting hurt. But then, you know, I also leaned into like this, this philosophy of coming back faster, stronger, coming back better than you were before. And that being the challenge, right? So, you know, in this, it was always this growth mindset of, can we get better? And so that with that setback, after kind of like understanding what that is and going through the, you know, the sorrow and all that, it was like, okay, well, I was, I was at this level before I got hurt. And now I've dropped down, I can't even walk, you know, I'm crutching around. But fast forward six, seven, eight months, I'm going to surpass that level that I was at before. I like that. So what did recruitment look like? So sophomore year, sophomore year, I went to a rivals football camp. It was like the Taylor Barton camps up in, I think it was in Washington. And before, before this, like coming into high school, I was a Hooper. My whole elementary, middle school basketball was my sport. It was the sport that I watched the most. I knew the most about, I was most skilled in. Okay. You remember. You remember. You remember those times. We used to be Hoopinces way back. Yeah, I remember. And so it wasn't until high school that I started realizing, you know, stop growing at six, four, every other power forward and center kept growing like anybody who was destined for the next level, we're going into six, nine, six, 10, six, 11, whatever. But then I remember watching the NFL combine my freshman year high school and seeing guys out there who were six, three, six, four playing outside linebacker, playing tight end, running 40, you know, 40 yard dashes, four, seven, four, eight. You know, at that time of high school, it was probably around the same thing, you know, four, eight. So I was like, damn, I can actually go and be that. I realized that my ceiling in football was just much higher than in basketball. So at that point, my coach at Central, Coach Pine and my parents, we kind of all aligned and was like, hey, you got a chance to go play at the next level. So you should start hitting some camps. So I went to the Taylor Barton camp. It was this Lyman camp and we, they had us do some drills, run some 40s, do some one-on-ones. And I remember this was like probably one of the first time that I did one-on-ones as a defensive lineman. And I remember coming off the line and hit this tackle with just the straight, hazy, like I had a basketball in my hand. Went inside, hit the bag down. And it was like, as I'm passing due by, I'm like, hit the bag down and, you know, jog back or run back to the line of scrimmage or whatever. And coming out of that camp, they put me on the front page of TheRivals.com. And then letters started rolling in. I had my cousin, who was a big Boise State fan, he's in Idaho, sent my mom the article, sent it to the website, TheRivals website. I was like, yo, it's like, you know, he's looking at TheBoiseStateRivals.com. I said, yo, my cousin's on the front thing. And then the process started and Oregon State was the first one to offer me, they verbally offered me as a sophomore. And then the word spread. And at some point, all the pack, packed 10 at that point. But then pack 12 offered me. I had some, I had LSU, I had Notre Dame. When it was all said and done, I had like 20 offers. Okay. Yeah. And by the time senior year comes, we'll go back to the injury, right? Mm-hmm. You got all these offers on the table senior year. Yeah. And we talk, I talk about this with other athletes sometimes. It's interesting seeing like, these bowl games on TV and the players are like, I'm not going to play in that because I'm about to go to the league. Yeah. Or like seniors in high school, like, I already got my scholarship. I'm good. I need to stay safe, whatever it may be. So what was your mindset kind of during that time? Whether I was going to play or not. Yeah. Like senior year high school, you're like, if I was, if I could strap on them pads, I was out there. You was out there. Yeah. For sure. I mean, because I'd gone through injuries, right? So I knew what it was like to have the game stripped away from you, you know, because it had been for me, not by my choosing. And that shit sucked. You know, I found at an early age, like, yeah, that shit sucks. Like one, this football shit is not guaranteed. It's not going to be around forever because you know, I'm what 13, 14 years old, having a season ended injury, surgery. And so, you know, I just realized that. And so I really appreciate appreciated being able to play, being able to be out there. So never would I cross my mind in high school or college to not play if I was able to. So when you got hurt senior year, you had already accepted your offer? No. I hadn't. So what did the process look like there? Luckily, it didn't really change. Okay. There was only one school that pulled their offer. Okay. University of Oregon. Really? Haters. They didn't pull their offer when I got hurt. It wasn't because I got hurt. It's because I decided not to take my visit. Because I had junior year, starting junior year, I was going to Corvallis. I was going to Eugene, Oregon State and Oregon. I was going to going to the games hanging out because it was right up the street. Literally right there. I had taken so many unofficials to Oregon and Oregon State that when it came down to name my official visits, you know, they weren't going to be one of the five schools. Right. It's like, fuck that already been there. Right, right, right. Like I've been there several times. I was going to go somewhere else. And I knew in my heart of hearts that I didn't want to stay in Oregon. I wanted to go get a different experience. Okay. And so I ended up taking. Funny enough, I took four of those visits to the California PAC-12 schools. Really? So UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford, and then I took my fifth one to Notre Dame. Oh, okay. Yeah, and Oregon was salty. Yeah. When I announced it, they like had a call. I think if it wasn't Chip, it was Greatwood, the offensive line coach who was like our regional recruiter. And he was like, so you're going to take your visit? I was like, nope. All right, we have nothing more to talk about here. Okay. So you get hurt. That happens. Now, how do you decide where to go? This is like a decision that you have to factor so many different elements to what can happen because it's going to school. If I don't make it to the league, what is the repercussions of these things that I'm chosen? Yeah, for sure. Well, I think the education piece played a big role. Having had injuries, knowing that the football wasn't going to last forever, played a big role. It humbled me. Those injuries and not being able to play humbled the hell out of me because, you know, when you're, especially when you're high school and you're the best player in your team, when you're one of the best players in the state, it's easy to kind of walk around with your chest puffed out and think that you're invincible until that ACL goes and it's over with. And then you're sitting on the, you know, you watching the games. You're not that guy anymore, to your point, from like the identity piece. And so when I was choosing a college, my parents and I had decided that, you know, and I didn't even really have to talk to my parents about I knew that I wanted to go somewhere that was academically prestigious. And so that's why for me, it came down to Berkeley and it came down to Stanford. And my parents was pushing Stanford. The whole family was pushing Stanford. Anyone who I told that those were like my final two, they were like, oh, easy decision. But I loved what Berkeley and Cal was doing. I loved the coaches who recruited me. That was Coach Gould was running back coach. Tosh Lupoy, who's actually at U of O now was a D line coach. And then Berkeley and Portland had these similarities. They're both pretty quirky cities. And at the time, I didn't know why it felt so much like home, but now it's like very clear, you know, very like liberal and just easy going individualistic cities. It felt like I could be myself there. And there was some really, I think there was a strong culture. I saw guys like Cameron Jordan, who had gone to the league. And Cal was telling me that I'd come in and fill his slot, play that position. And I wanted to go to a public school, man. Y'all got to have all the fun in high school, you know, public school kids. I'm in a private school, baby. I was like, I don't want to go to Stanford. I don't want to do what my parents want me to do. This is my, my chance to, you know, call my own shot. So I feel it. Yeah. So, okay. During this time, I was going to Foothill. I remember y'all played the Ducks at the 49er Stadium. Yeah. But you were hurt again. Yeah. And I'm like, bro, I feel like you get hurt every season. Seven in a row. It was literally every single season. But you were like making it through. And I don't know. The reason why I'm saying this is because people got to understand this. Like you was going through a lot. Again, that's a huge mental battle every single season. Can't play all the games, can't do all these things. And then still make it to the league. Still do well in academics. Still, like you said, we haven't talked about yet, but learning about investing, doing those things on the next level. Like excelling in these things during a hard time and struggling during sports. So, yeah, I remember during that time though, I don't remember what year that was for you. What year was that? Like our... I got to Cal in 2011. I think it was 2013. Might have been your last year. You played at the 49er Stadium? Yeah. That was early then because that was Candlestick. It was the new stadium. Oh, it was the new one. The new Niners Stadium. It was the Levi's? Oh, that would have been later then. It was either 2013 or 2014. Yeah, it would have been later. Something like that. Okay, so either way, we'll talk about that in a bit. You get to college. Okay, now, like we talked about investing. Where did you learn to jump on it sooner than later? Because we always talk about this, and then people wait until they're 35. They're like, oh, if I was like that, that, that. But you was like, no, I'm jumping on it. Like, I'm about to figure this out. Yeah, I really didn't learn about investing. It's crazy because I was in the business school, and it's a hard school. The business is one of the better business schools in the country. It was the best school to like, the best degree to pursue at Cal. And I learned about investing, I guess, through like my financial classes and that, you know, whatever I was required to take. But it really didn't hit like it was something that I could do right now. It wasn't until later when I did my graduate transfer to Stanford, and I was studying in my master's program, and I took a finance class. And around the same time, I talked to my boy Dimitri, who was at Santa Clara. He was a finance major, and he put me on to eTrade. I was like, what is eTrade? eTrade.com. He's like, yo, it's an app, or it's a website. Like, look, I can buy my stock. I can buy a stock. Before Robin Hood and all the other stuff. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't even like, it was tough to use. Like, you had to still use the URL maybe. Yeah, there wasn't even fractional shares like that, I don't think, at the time. Yeah. It wasn't even a thing like that. Made it way easier now. It's way easier. And I mean, the interface was like, it just, it looked like a traditional website. But yeah, Dimitri was like, yeah, you could buy a stock. I was like, yeah, I didn't know you. I didn't know you could do that. I never had even really asked the question. Right. And he put me on to that. And this was the same time, like, kind of around my finance class. And this is also around the time I was doing OTAs with the texting. So it was all this kind of culmination of getting a little bit of money, learning about investing in class, and then my homie put me on to the ability to actually do it. And then I started investing in stocks. And my first deep dive was into the virtual reality space. Okay. And the reason that I did that was because my grandfather, when he passed in 2014, which was the year before I had graduated, he passed in 2014. And then my parent or my mom and her siblings were like, you know, splitting up his inheritance and all this. And he had stock in Starbucks. He had stock in Microsoft. And he had invested in these companies when Starbucks was just the local coffee shop up in Seattle. Right, right, right. You know, my grandpa was from Idaho, grew up in Idaho. So he's invested in Microsoft, you know, like young Microsoft. We're talking young Bill Gates. He got in early. And so I was like, I thought to myself, it was like this understanding that, well, my grandfather must have had some type of vision for what the future might look like. And so he invested in what he thinks the future will look like. And those are one of the two of the most, you know, successful investments that he had. So for me, I was like, okay, let me put my place myself in 2015. What do I think the future will look like? And the answer to that question in my first deep dive in investing was virtual reality. And so I got deep into like the companies that were purchasing the goggles, which was Facebook at the time, Twitter. I got deep into like the mechanics of the technology, you know, what goes, what allows them to be to work. Yeah, the semiconductors, the chips, yeah, you know, the micro processes, yeah, the graphics. So I got the NVIDIA, NVIDIA was mine. Coming out of Oregon State too, like, yeah. Yeah, so that's how I got into it. Okay, so before we get next part, talking about money, going to league and everything, you got to go to school with your brother. Yeah. And at the same time, your sister was going to college playing volleyball. Nope, she was still in high school. Still in high school? Yeah. Okay, so what was it like being like, yo, I get to transfer. Now I'm still able to go to Stanford. Yeah. What made you make that decision? And then I'm sure, I'm sure brother had a huge factor. Huge, huge. But I want to did it without him. Yeah, how is that whole thing play out? Yeah, I want to did it without Cameron. So what happened was, 2014 season, I'm a senior. It's my third year of eligibility because I had the red shirt because of a hand injury the year before that. So 2014 season, having a solid season, I'm thinking in my mind, after this season, I'm going to go to the league. Okay. I feel like I was feeling like I was ready. Tear in my ACL, 2014. The other side? The other ACL? The other ACL. So now you got two dirty knees. So now I got two here. I got two. So Tear in my ACL, the league is out of the picture. Like, okay, well, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to stay for another year. I got one more year of eligibility. So I'm going to do my graduate studies. And so I started exploring what graduate studies would look like at Cal. Cal is a very like research driven graduate programs. So PhDs, two year programs, this education program that was like available, nothing that I was interested in. Right. Okay. So I'm starting to explore. At the same time, my brother's a senior in high school. Balling. Balling, going crazy. I want to stay championship. Yeah. How many touchdowns do you have in a year? Two times state champion. Crazy. Bro, he was going crazy. His stats are stupid. He was having like five touchdowns a game. Yeah, he, bro, it was stupid. They dropped 70 points. I think against Tigard in like his stat line. I need to bring it. I need to pull it up. It was nuts. So he was being recruited all over the place. He's trying to decide where he wants to go. Okay. Stanford's recruiting him hard. He's saying, he's looking at Stanford and he hits me. It's like, hey, coach Shaw, who was the head coach of Stanford at the time, recruiting my brother hard. It's like, coach Shaw told me that get recruiting processes and over, because if you remember, when I was in high school coming out, it was Cal and Stanford. So you're recruiting processes and over. I'm thinking of my social life or whatever, man. He talking shit. I was like, why would I go to Stanford? You know, I'm a captain at Cal, you know, at Berkeley. And we're texting. My brother and I are texting back and forth. I said, why don't I go to Stanford? He said to go get the best master's degree in the world. Hard to pass all that. I said, all right, little brother, you making some sense. So I looked into it and I looked into there was a degree that I was able to go get in one year and then go to the league. And so we had to go through all these these hoops because this is before the transfer portal but ended up applying to school, couldn't leave Cal until I got into school. So went through a whole bunch of drama there, ended up getting into the management science and engineering program and told Cal is gonna leave, showed up to freshman orientation with the football team with my brother. Today's partner is Sneaker Throne. They have multiple options when it comes to durable and high quality display cases. One of my personal favorites is the drop side display case. 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So you go to Stanford and what's this process? Because, oh yeah, you guys went to the Rose Bowl. You had a squad. Chris McAfrey was coming out the same year? Yeah. Yeah. At the team it was McAfrey. I don't know, I'm not. You guys had some. It was McAfrey, Hogan, Austin Hooper was playing tight end. Yep, yep, yep. Josh Garnett who was drafting the first round was there guard, Kyle Murphy played in the league, played tackle. We had on the D line, it was me, Azisha too, Solomon Thomas, Harrison Phillips, all guys played in the league. Blake Martinez was playing middle linebacker. Justin Reed was young, but he's playing safety. Bryce Love was playing runner back. We had a, we were nasty. You guys had a squad because I remember you guys, you guys used to give Oregon hell and I used to hate it. Yeah. They beat us that year though. Okay. Trash. So how the whole season go? Like for you? It was good. It was the first year I stayed healthy. That's good. Yeah. It was the first year that I stayed healthy since my sophomore year in high school. I had a season in the injury seven years straight up until I got to Stanford. And it was just like the stars is aligning now. It was perfect. And I went in there and it wasn't by a happenstance. It was the way I trained. The way I was being trained. It was an intentional approach to performance. We were highly focused on mobility, the training staff, the strength conditioning coach, Coach Turley. Wouldn't allow me to put on any heavy weights on my back, lift any heavy weights until I could do the movements properly. I did physical therapy every day. They eased me into training camp until I was ready to go. And so I attribute really my ability to go and play professionally to that organization, that program. Because without them, I probably would have gotten hurt again. Because after you have one injury, they snowball, right? When I think about high school, bro, when I came off my knee injury, they said it's a six month recovery. Like, I'm playing basketball as soon as six months it. And I'm stopping PT. And I did physical therapy two days a week. Like, bro, when I'm getting back on the basketball court, like my body's just adapting to move how it needs to move. So I may have a little gimp here. I may have a little strength off. And then that leads to the next one. Then you do the same thing, which then leads to the next one. So, you know, being at Stanford, they did a good job of resetting and kind of cleaning the slate. And I made it through the whole season and played well. I missed one game, Oregon State game, had a little scare, but played well throughout the whole year. And won a Pacto championship against SC. And won the Rose Bowl against Iowa. Fire, okay. You got the ring still? Yeah. Got the ring. Was it pinky ring or what? I think it's my middle. Middle finger? Yeah. Yeah, I have to ask my mom where it's at. I had to put it in her custody. I don't want to lose it. She got it somewhere. I feel that. Okay, so getting ready for a league, you train in, were you done with classes and everything right after the season or did you still have to worry about school during the whole process? I had school. So, I trained on campus. A lot of guys leave and they go train in Texas or Florida or down in LA at one of the training programs. But me and a group of guys stayed on campus and we trained together, trained with Coach Terri Lee and I continued to take classes. Okay. And then the draft process. What did, because you went to the combine? No. You didn't go to the combine? No invite to the combine. No invite to the All-Star Games. That's right. Okay. No visits. So, what's it like thinking about that process like, all right, bro. I'm about to go to the league. You talked to teams though. Yeah, some teams were calling. You talked to some teams. Teams that caught. Okay. So, what were the teams that had talked to you? Uh, I remember Minnesota calling, Houston called, Pittsburgh maybe called, Detroit. Coast dealers. Called. Yeah, it was just a few kind of sprinkled through like leading up to the draft. Like that little glimmer of hope. Like, okay, this is worthwhile. It's worth me training and worth me doing these things. Oh, for sure. Okay. Yeah. So, you're going to that process. Don't go to the combine. You're still like, all right. I got my combine or my product at school. How'd that go? Went crazy. Went crazy. Went crazy. Yes, sir. Yeah, it felt great. I was running, running fast and waiting at 269. Perfect way. Yeah, because for me, it could have gone either way. I could have been, I played at Stanford at D-Line. Played a four technique, three tech, one tech. Goes all in the trenches. But I really was built more for as an outside linebacker. And so I wanted to be in a weight class that allowed me to kind of be able to do both. That a team would be able to see me do both. So, if I needed to balloon up and be 280 and play that, then I couldn't play in the trenches or if I needed to come down to 260, 255, which is what I wanted to do. Right. And that was position myself and I could do that. Makes sense. Yeah. Okay. So, the draft happens. Did you think you were going to get drafted late or did you just like, I know I'm going to be a free agent? I had a little bit of hope. Had a little bit of hope, yeah. Okay, so you were like watching. I'm watching this shit like, this ain't my round, but turn it up a little bit. It's the last day. It got to the point though. I was sick of that shit, man. I was just watching and just was making meals, frustrating me just watching people go. And so I just went outside and played basketball with my brother. That's how I finished off the draft. Right. I'm better than him. Yeah, it's like, fuck this, man. Okay, so the draft happens. You're kind of like sick. How long does it take until you get the call? Right after. Like immediately? Yeah, right after. I had a call from Pittsburgh and Houston. Okay. There were the two teams at call. And the call with Pittsburgh was funny. Like I talked to Joey Porter. Okay. It was a linebacker coach. I talked to Joey Porter. He called me. He's like, hey, how are you doing? We want to bring you in. And we like what you can do, you know, this and that. I was like, okay, cool. You know, love the Steelers. You think I got a chance to make the team. He's like, yeah, you know, well, if it was me, you know, we got this guy on the team. He's 38 years old. If it was me, I'd come in and I'd beat him out. I'm like, you talking about James Harrison? No. Like he didn't even name y'all. He's like, bro, I'm just 38 years old. And you know, I'll come and beat him out if I was you. It's like, bro, you talking about the Hall of Famer? Right. Like it's like a legendary Steeler. I'ma come take his spot. Okay. And they ended up removing the offer off the table anyways. And then it was, it was Houston. And they hadn't been the hottest on me throughout the whole process. So you're like, I got one shot. Got one shot. Yeah. Mike Rabel was had a quote, unquote, like he wasn't one talking to me. And then we lie. I was like, yeah, I'm coming to Houston still. So what was that like first getting out there? It was cool. It was cool. Yeah, it was, you know, it's funny. It was because it was, it was stressful a little bit when they, when they first gave me that offer after the draft to come in, because they told me that I was, they were going to have to put injury waivers on my knees. Because it didn't hurt so much. Okay. So injury waivers basically means like, if you come in and you get hurt, they don't got to pay you. Like you're just cut, you know. So if you come in, you end up having to get a surgery. Like, and I don't know if the workers comp shit, but like, you basically they're not getting paid and you again, you know. And so I was like, damn, that sucks. And I called my coach and I was like unsure. I called my, my Stanford coach and he was like, because I was, I was considering not doing it. Slightly considering not doing it. And I called him just to see what he thought. And he was like, man, if I had the chance to chase my dream, I don't care what they, what they say. Right. Right. I'm doing it. Right. Oh, all right. That's all I'm going to do here. Did you, so what was your backup plan if you didn't make it? Graduate from Stanford and go work in the tech world and do a startup. Start something to do. Stay in the back probably. Yeah. I've been working on a startup, but until that point, and I probably wouldn't win my, my path. Otherwise, I'm in a straight entrepreneurship. Okay. Do you think you see yourself doing something like that? Maybe like five, 10 years from now? Yeah, right now. Yeah, yeah. Soon. Right now. I am doing it. Oh, okay. Okay. Let's talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So workout goes great. Um, you're on the team. You make it through all the cuts. Yeah. You play this season. Mm-hmm. But you had, who was starting? Yo, rookie. You, that was in my room. It was like there was a couple of good guys. It was Clowney. Clowney. Wendy Merchelis. John Simon. I mean, obviously JJ Watt was, he was in the D-line room, but he played the edge. Brian Cushing was in the linebacker room. That's right. Yeah. We have boys. We have boys. It was a good team. What do you think they taught you that you kind of passed down when you became a vet? Yeah. The, I always tell my young boys when I'm in a locker room, the JJ story. Because for me, I'm an underdog, right? I was undrafted, you know, mud boy. Like I had no shot. So for me, it was always, I got to be that much better than the next guy. Every practice, every rep, like I'm going hard. Like I'm the guy that dudes are like, come on, B. Like, slow down. Yeah, yeah. So walk through, slow down. Slow down. You don't got to put your hands on me like that. Right. Like, but, um, watching JJ Watt practice, uh, there was one time after, after a practice, I asked him about a move that he was doing. He was like, yeah, you know, taught me kind of show, showed it to me. Got this like, uh, this signature move that he'd always do. It was kind of like a side, side swipe dip rip. And that shit would get home so frequently, especially in practice. Got home a lot in games, but in practice, it should get home all the time. And I asked him, it was like, you know how you do it? And he showed me and he was like, he was like, yeah man, that's why I go so hard and walk through. It's because I can visualize myself making the play. Every time I do it and walk through, the guy across from me, he's obviously going slower, but I'm getting to the quarterback. So I'm going to be able to visualize that and feel it. So then once it happens in the game, it's not a surprise. Right. And so then I can always pass that along to younger dudes, especially if I see a younger guy like going through the motion. So I came there, don't do that. You got to be out there and one, visualize it for yourself, but also show the coaches that you're the guy for the job. Don't give them no reason to let you to think that you're not the right person when every time. Right. And I feel like that applies to not only football, but literally every aspect of the workforce, so you name it of life in that. Because you know us as athletes, we always can apply the same fundamentals or tactics or whatever you want to call it. To other elements of our lives and different things. So I think people that, yeah, you may not have wins at NFL or whatever it is, but you can definitely take these things and still use those as words of advice for yourself in your day to day or whatever it may be, even if it comes down to cleaning dishes. You know what I'm saying? Like you could do it better and you can do the little things and all the different stuff. So I was going to ask you something about... Well, just a piggyback on that. Go ahead. I feel like it's always this competition with yourself to be the best that you can possibly be. It's like, you know when you're leaving shit on the table. Right. You know what I mean? Like when you're half-assing, you know it more than anybody else knows it. And like at the end of the day, it really is not hurting anybody, but you. Influencing what you want to do at the end of the day. And when you set a goal and you envision what you want to be, like I was saying earlier, what my parents taught me, it's like it's cool to want that and to see that thing and have a passion like I want to go get that. But understanding what it takes to be that. And it's like if you want to be a successful entrepreneur, you know that's making hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue on a monthly basis or whatever you want to be. Like if you're not waking up early in the morning and getting to it, you ain't doing what it takes. You know what I mean? Because there's somebody else that's out there that is doing those things and whatever that looks like. If you want to be the best mother or the best father and you're not taking your kids, teaching your kids lessons, whatever. And it's like, are you doing what it takes? It's nice to want that. It's like 15%, 10% of the battle maybe. But you want to do what it takes to become that. For sure. So during this time, I think that's what I was going to ask you. During this time, you started the foundation when? 2018. So that was deeper into your career. Yeah, that was after year three. Okay, so that started with initially with the books? Yep. Okay, so talk about that. I volunteered with the Barbara Bush Foundation in Houston. She was the first lady with George Bush Sr. And she was big into literacy and education. The Bush families from Houston volunteered with them. A few times I went to some book fairs and I really liked what they were doing. Reading played a really huge part of my life. My educational standpoint, I used to read those Harry Potter books religiously. Oh man. Oh, it's all about it. My wife loves that shit. I do not like it. Oh, you tripping. Okay, okay, okay. You ain't tried. You ain't tried. I never read the books. I read the first chapter of the first book and I retired after that. I watched movies. Why don't you like it? As of like a few years ago, I started watching the movies. And I was like, okay, I understand why people like. Movies don't even do it justice. But I know the books don't even do it justice. But you know, I'm kind of the opposite. Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, Hermione? Come on, man. I'm so nervous. You're asleep. Okay. Yeah. No, I don't know, bro. It's just, I'm more of like a Marvel, you know? You're a Marvel guy. Yeah. Like one of those. I feel that. Yeah, I feel that. I was big sci-fi. I was like dragons and wizards. Yeah. I didn't really like Star Wars and all that stuff. Yeah. I didn't get to be a Star Wars. I think, yeah, the closest I was. Lord of the Rings. No. I was a big Lord of the Rings. I didn't read the books. Really? Wow. Yeah, I was a nerd, bro. I still am a gig. I'm like the, because I grew up on like Pokemon and all that stuff, because remember I went to the Japanese school and everything. So for me, it was like Japanese culture and all that stuff. Anime? Yeah. Anime. Yu-Gi-Oh. All that stuff. I got all the cards. Did you see some of the cards up there? Like I got all the, yeah, I had all that stuff. Still got the original stuff from back then when we was kids, because I used to do research studies in Japan and all the different things. Oh, shit. So I was kind of like immersed in that world. You always been a cool kid, though, bro. Chill. You always been a cool kid. How? Man, you always had the coolest sneakers. You was always fucking selling shoes and, yeah, flight school. And you had all this stuff. I was just trying to make it, bro. And your name is DJ, bro. That's the cool ass name. That's the cool ass name, bro. Like you went to Grant, you're hella cool, bro. The rest of us is at private school reading Harry Potter. He's slanging sneakers. He's slanging Jordans, you're 12 years old. Selling Jordans on your own website. Don't listen to this, man. This guy's cool, man. He's cool. Let's get back to our topic. Let's get back to our topic. Let's get back to it. Oh, shoot. So you started the foundation. Yeah. Yeah. How have you been able to get to where you want to be from then to now, you say? Or do you think like there's some things you've learned over the years that can help you take it farther faster over the next X amount of years? Yeah. So, I mean, when I saw what Barbara Bush did, I was like, this was also around the same time where I was realizing the effects of gentrification on our community, especially North and Northeast Portland and how to displace a lot of our diverse communities, especially our black and brown communities. And for me, it was like, man, if we can't, if our people can't call a place home in this world that changes and shifts so often, but and we can't have a constant in home in our neighborhood and our community, then it's like, damn, that sucks. So what can I do to help out and to give back? And I was peeling off the layers of that whole thing and it was education, creativity, and physical wellness. And it's like, if I can help to equip our neighborhoods and communities with those things, then, you know, I'm taking a stab at fixing the problem. And so then that's all what Barbara Bush did with the book fairs. And I was like, you know what? This is a cool way to inspire a love of reading, which then, you know, can help encourage critical thinking and communication and literacy. So then the success levels and career outcomes of these neighborhoods will increase. Well, then they'll be able to buy their homes, you know, and stay put and empower our community. So that was that was the thought process. And it's been, you know, it's been a slow, it's been a slow ish, it's been a slow grind. You know, it's a, it's a family run foundation that leans heavy on volunteers and people in the community to give their time and, you know, any, any money that they're willing to donate. And then it's, it's taking the time to do the work in a thoughtful way and being present in the community in the way that our community needs us. So we've, you know, we've shifted and changed form a few different times. And we continue to do that because the landscape changes here here in Portland. So we'll, we'll continue to grow and, and deepen and widen our impact. And I'm so excited. You know, whenever I'm in town, I always try to pull up whenever I can. Yeah. It's fun, actually funny because I missed last year and that was the year we finally went to dodgeball tournament. That's the year big yard bandits won the dodgeball tournament. That's what I'm saying. So I've been on his, I've been on his squad. That's right. You missed it, man. So how many years has the dodgeball tournament been going? That was our first, that was our first event. And that was like our first fundraiser that was 2018. So we missed one year because of COVID. So we've had, I think it was our fourth one that we just had. So yeah, he does like a dodgeball tournament in the summertime. This is like late summer. Yeah, late summer. This is in July. Late summer. Dodgeball tournament, everybody gets together, all the homies, all everybody. You see high school kids coming together, putting the squad together, all the people, boys, girls, you know, everybody's doing it. And high schools, the dogs too. And we just have a day and we have fun. We raise money and it's dope seeing those type of things like in our city and you putting those things together. And even like the marches and all those things that's happened and getting the community together is a huge thing. Something that's like bigger than football because you're impacting our people around us at the same time too. So I definitely got to give you a flowers for those type of things and congratulate you for that because it's not easy for people to get that many people together for anything. It's not as easy as it looks. And you guys do it and you do it well. So definitely want to say that. And then obviously, yeah, I'm partially a part of the squad but I lost the year that they won was the year that I wasn't there. So maybe I was the problem. You're an honorary champion, man. Maybe I was the problem. I don't know. Once a big yard bandit, always a big yard bandit. So if you guys want to pull up to the tournament next summer let us know so we can get you guys. We need to do a bowling tournament, bro. We should. I'm not a big bowler. Are you nice? That's my chance to get you. Are you nice? I'm solid. You good, go? I'm all right. What's your average score? I don't know. What did you say? What did you say? I'm solid. What's that? I got my own ball. Oh yeah. That's enough to say. Yeah, that's enough. Yeah, you were consistent. What? You hit 200? Oh, yeah. Easy. Bro, I've thrown 17 strikes in a row before. What? Yes. Oh, you're nasty. I'm not that good. I got to practice to get back to that level. But I used to bowl for the team in high school actually, too. So I was on the high school bowling team. I take you being a cool kid back. Yeah. I take that back, man. Are you on the bowling team? Take me off the throne, please. Stop it. I was on the bowling team. I was on the chess team. I went to state two years in a row in chess. Bro! Yeah, I was on the bowling team. Went to state two years in a row. Bowled anchor for the chess team. And then I did everything that we also did. You know, football, basketball, baseball, track. You said you went anchor for the chess team. Yeah. I had relays. Well, it's like they use like your power players in different rounds. And then you can have it's like also you run anchor is like the last person to bowl like in the 10th frame for like in bowling. Oh. Where like, you know, how you could throw like three strikes in a row and stuff. So it's kind of like. You're just the same game with chess. The captain or whatever you want to call it. Same thing with chess. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I didn't know that. So I'd be like those type of scenarios. I bet. Yeah. I was always into all that stuff too. You was a nerd too. I wanted to take a nerd and all that. You was a nerd too. Huh? You was a nerd too. Yeah. I just went to Grant. You know, I was a little bit better. Yeah. You're on the cooler side of the nerd spectrum. Okay. So that's all going great. Now, tell me about the first property. What year were you in your career when you got your first property? Because I remember, man, what year was that? You had got a couple of properties the same year. Was that the same year? No. So when you first started? My rookie year, somebody suggested to me that I re-riched that poor dad. Okay. So I read that book. Sure, everybody started that right now. And it was, it changed the way that I thought about about money, about finances. I would say that book was more influential through that, those what? The season was probably four months, through those four months of me reading it, then four years in a business school. Crazy. Yeah. And after I got through that, through that book, I had the goal. I said, all right, I want to be financially free with or without football. I want to be financially free. So after every season, I want to buy a property. Okay. And so I told my mom, my mom holds me down on everything that I'm doing, big yard properties, managing, she does it all. So I told her what I wanted to do. And her and my realtor and also a really good friend, Maria Elmore, they started going around to properties at that time. And they were sending me links. And I was looking on Zillow and Redfin. What type of property were you looking for? Single family. Okay. Single family. I just wanted a crib and I wanted to rent it out. I wanted it to be simple. And I put together an Excel spreadsheet, make sure all my margins were cool, whatever. And we found one out at Northeast, Portland in the Glendavere area. And they gave me a little FaceTime tour, walked through it. And I was like, okay, cool. Feel good about it. Put it off here. Okay. Scariest time of my life. I was about to say, how'd you feel? It's really scary. I mean, like, obviously you got a different type of influx of money coming in compared to... Yeah, it didn't matter though, because I was on a rookie deal, undrafted rookie deal with injury waivers on my knees. Okay. The leak minimum when I got in was 450,000. Okay. What's it know? After taxes, you know, I'm coming away with 250 maybe. Okay. What's it know? Five something, 550? For rookies, I think it's maybe up to like 720 or something. Damn. It went up a lot. Yes, it was going up every year by like 90,000 or something like that. Luckily you're in Texas though, for taxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was blessed being in Houston for sure. Okay. So you're like, got a couple hundred bands about to figure it out. Definitely got into the first property. Were you able to successfully get one every year after that? Or how did it go? Yep. Okay. Every year. But then there was one year that I had a commercial property that then I did a renovation on it. And the renovation went from the property being one single tenant to then I moved the staircase around and added another entrance. So it became a dual tendency. Okay. So in my mind, I basically bought another unit through renovation. Yeah. Okay. And what do you look like now? Is it still like the same thing one a year? Is it like complex? They slow down. Switching things up. Like getting a little comfortable. Like what do you think? Sorry to interrupt the podcast, but I had a quick question. Are you guys interested in taking your shoe game to another level, but you just don't know where to start? 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This is more than just sneakers. I want to see people grow and succeed in all aspects of life. Let's get back to the podcast. I'm renovating now in the process of turning over some of these older units that I have and starting to build up equity in the properties. I got good interest rates and loans for right now. Some of them are actually adjustable. So they will be coming up here in the next four or five years. So I'm just staying put right now. I'm still keeping my eyes open for deals. But at some point, we'll probably start to leverage some of the equity in these properties so that I don't have to come out of that one pocket with cash, especially being a free agent right now. I'm an employed man. I can just be throwing bread around like that. I feel that. You know what I mean? So yeah, tell me about that mindset of and how you navigate. Essentially, because they switch to contracts where you can get paid throughout the whole year compared to every week after the game. Isn't that a thing? Yeah, they spread it throughout the whole year. You could choose whichever one you want. Which was good for the league. No, you can't choose. Oh, that's how it is for everybody. Yeah, that's how it is for everybody. Oh, OK. I thought it was like you dissed that. Which they did that because what it used to be was they'd pay you just in the season. So your last check would be in February or January whenever your season stopped. And then you wouldn't see another check until OTAs the following year. So I mean, it was good for some of us who would take that money and invest it into something or have it gain an interest. For others, it was bad for the other guys who are blowing their bread and out at the club or buying jewelry or spending frivolously. They wasn't good for them because by the time OTAs run around, roll around, they actually need those checks. So it was really to protect all of the players as well. The league as a whole. Yeah, it was a good move. But it sucked to not be able to have those checks and be able to put it into an interest-bearing savings account. Right. It lost about a couple hundred, maybe a couple thousand bucks. Right, right, right. So yeah, what was your mindset behind kind of navigating, I guess, essentially a new monthly cash flow? I mean, it was fine. It was fine. It didn't change anything really for me because I was fortunate that there were handsome checks regardless of what structure it was. And I probably also did appreciate it having checks coming in in the March, April, and May, still having money coming in. What was hard was open those four months to just see that account just dwindle down. Right, and those are the months that you're in your off season, you're trying to travel, you might do a little online shopping. I think it's where most of the spending is probably happening. And you get no checks come in, so you're just seeing their account just dwindle down. And so by the time May rolls around and you are getting money back, you're like, ah, finally. Right, I feel that. What was one of your crazy purchases that you were like, ooh, I did that. So we had this thing, we had this tradition. It was funny because I just said I spent money, only spent money in the off season, that's a lie. We had this thing before every game, when we were in Houston, before every home game, me and my boy Will Fuller, who played receiver for us, was my guy. We would go to the Galleria, so we stayed at the team hotel, which was right across the street from the Houston Galleria. We go to the Galleria and we had to make one purchase. And we would kind of have this thing that was like, depending on what you buy, could influence how you play. So if you make a big purchase and you ball, it's like, shit, next week you got to make a big purchase, bro. I used to call Will a junior. I said, junior, you went for 150 lives, but you got to get another big purchase. One of my purchases in the Galleria before game, I bought this Louis Vuitton denim jacket. I was about to say I was not a jacket. I still flex to this day. And it was a few racks. I don't know if I balled or not. One special teams tackle. Yeah, I didn't do that again. That's funny, yeah, for me, I saw the same thing while I was talking about the cash flow and all this stuff, social media, bro. This stuff is like all over the place. You have one video pop, like you made $20,000 off a video doing some crazy stuff, right? Next month it could be like right back down. Who knows, right? So like it's like there's a consistency, but at the same time, there's like these crazy spikes in there. Yeah. And it's like you never know when they're going to come. But some of your videos are timeless though, right? You got a lot of evergreen content. Exactly. And that's what I focus on is like building content that is like having a rental property or whatever. Like I know it's going to keep making money off of the videos that make sense. Because a lot of creators may chase the virality or the right now things, but then it's like nobody cares about it next week or two months from now. So they're just like living and dying by the content. And they can't take a break from it because they're relying on posting that next video, posting that next video, going and going. And they're just in the hamster wheel just running. Who's the coldest, the coldest at the evergreen content? Wait, is that again? Who's the coldest at evergreen content? Who's the coldest at evergreen content? You know I really like Think Media. Think Media? Think Media. They teach people about how to be better creators on the internet. Oh really? And I don't know if they're the goat, but for me, I got a lot of my foundation from them. I learned a lot from them personally. And then I originally learned it from their channel and then I met them and I learned even more deeper knowledge. But they're the basics of these mics, these arms, these cameras, these tripods, these lights, they'll break them down and be like, this is how it works, this is how you use it. Giving you the ins and outs of it, compare it to another thing. And then now it's like when you're on the market to purchase that product or learn more about it, they always have that video on the internet. And these things still stay relevant for so many years. Like a lot of these mics and stuff, or you name it, a lot of these different tech products do actually stay relevant in the game. Like I've had my cameras for four years or something like that. So people can go back and look those videos up and they continue to give views year over year and they show it through their content as well. I love that. So yeah, I don't know, I learned a lot from it through that. But then yeah, some of my crazy purchases, you know, just be the shoes. Like that'd be my big thing, but I always justify it. Like you got three of the same shoes right here. Which are all the Kobe's. You got three of them. So they're actually the same, but different. But they're the same thing, but different. The top two are samples. So they're different. You can see the differences like between the greens, like you see how it's darker and that one's lighter on the back end on the patent leather area. And then the pattern of the shade that they put on top of the shoe is different. So this is when they were first sampling it. They ran different runs and then they get to the final product and then they make that version. Okay. So I had got lucky to, I was, you know, gifted some of the product and I got to debut the shoe to the internet letting everybody know, hey, this shoe is going to be coming out. So when I rich as retro, I was the first person to like put it out on the internet and I got the three different versions of the same stuff. So for me, it's just like something dope to have. Obviously, they're worth a lot of money and everything, but You was the only creator that they sent the shoes to? Right. So it was like a dope opportunity and yeah, never plan to sell them or anything. I think it's just a dope story. And so it's cool to have in the collection. How many, how many you wear? What's all in the road? Man, I wear a lot of stuff. It's just, I got to clean it and make it look pretty again for the cases. I don't like it to look burnt out, you know? So like if you look down here, all this stuff is like in my rotation right now, just like what I'd be wearing, which you'll see is like a lot of classics, breads and cements and you know, concords and all this stuff. Like those are always heavy in the rotation, like in my day to day life, but these are like events or whatever's going on. So and I got, you know, five, six hundred pairs of shoes. So it's like, it takes time to get through everything. But these are all full, all these boxes. Those are actually empty. All my ones are on display in a different room. So I just leave some of the boxes in here to kind of like go with aesthetic. But that's like, yeah, a whole other thing. I'm going to need your affiliate code for these boxes because I want, I don't want some. How many shoes you got? Maybe we could do a closet makeover video. We should. And my crib, I probably got, I don't know, 25. Oh yeah. The house. I got a bunch of stuff in Miami still, in storage. For real? Yeah. Did you, did you come a crib out there? No, I didn't, but I left all my stuff out there because I want to. So it's like, it's like, it's the one string pulling me back. I still got stuff out there. It's the $200 a month pulling me back to get a crib out there. It's just a reminder every time I see it in my account. I feel that. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, you know, I do the room makeover videos and everything. So I think it would be dope. We should do it. Collection. Yeah. Send me some pictures and I'll, I'll map it out. Okay. The containers figured out and everything. Yeah. But I love doing those videos. Really? They do it really well. Okay. We're getting off topic. We love that tangent. Yeah. We went off on a little tangent. Like a little tangent. So you're deeper into the league now. Yeah. You got the properties figured out. You're still investing in the stocks and everything. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Now you got even more. That's the other thing. People can get like an ETF or they can just like individually pick the stocks that they like. Yeah. And what's your route? I was always an individual picker. Okay. I like. But this is how I had it though. This is, I have, I chose different platforms for different reasons. Okay. So like I started with my E-Trade. In my mind, those were just like my grandfather. Those were lifetime holds. Those are my OGs right here. These are my OGs. These are ones that I'm going to buy and I'm going to hold on to my whole life. And these are the ones that I've done research on. I've looked through the 10Ks. I've understood which chips are going into which VR just not, you know. So that was my E-Trade. Then I got this app called Stash. Okay. Stash was like for me. I used that for a little bit. It was my little black box. Okay. You know, it was like the shoe box under the bed with the money that's like, that's just your secret stash. Okay. So as well you stashed for it and they had this Park My Cash ETF that gave a good little dividend. So I was like, okay, put some money there. Hold on before that. How did you decide on like how much to put in there? Because you know how like, I tell people like, man, if you can at least do like $100 a month or whatever, just to get started, right? How did you decide like what your number was? It's like, I'm comfortable with this. Was it monthly? Was it like one day it's radically? It wasn't scientific, but it was like, I had weekly, what do you call it, recurring investments into the stash one. And then essentially like I would just, when I was doing the research and I found myself with some time to go through, to be the Wall Street Journal or go through articles and I wanted to buy stocks and I just do that with that on each rate. Okay. It wasn't a science to it. Okay. It wasn't like a certain percentage of my income or whatever because like, you know, I was looking at, I was had enough cash to do whatever I wanted. Okay. And so a lot of it was going into there and then I had Wealthfront for a little bit, which then it was kind of a little bit more conservative. Like, yeah, picking your own stocks is risky. I like Wealthfront the way it's set up. Yeah. Like when it shows like the projection, I like Wealthfront too. Yeah. Yeah. I like Wealthfront too. It's like at this age you'll be at this. I transferred assets out of there. I don't have it anymore, but I used to like it. I mainly use it for the tracker. Because it gave you a big picture. It was like a zoomed out picture. Yeah. And I think I had your net worth on there too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Calculating net worth. But sometimes it didn't really update that well. Especially with the properties. Yeah. Because you like connected through Redfin. Yeah, you always have to connect accounts and everything and every time you check. It was like those little things that'll be like, I don't feel like doing it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But I since traded out of that, I'm no longer in Wealthfront. I'm no longer in stash anymore. I have an advisor that those assets are being watched over. And then I have a Robinhood, which I started Robinhood. It's like, these are my short term holds. These are like. That's your trap for all right there. My quasi, yeah, exactly, exactly. My quasi flips. I've never been a day trader, but maybe in a year, maybe in two years, I'll consider selling. Okay. Versus like the E-Trade was a lifetime hold. But then Robinhood really has become same thing as E-Trade. Right. I think when you're investing, it's important to have as long of time horizon as you possibly can. Mm-hmm. The longer you're able to hold on to something, the more wealth that you'll create. Yeah, it's funny because a lot of my friends, when they have kids, I give them like, I buy them an Apple stock for them. Oh, really? Yeah. That's like my thing. Like, I'm like, it's affordable for me. I need to do that. And it's dope seeing it being like, man, I remember it was 120 bucks. Now it's like 190 and like that. You know what I'm saying? It's like, short period of time. Like, man, I can't wait to see what it turns to when they're 18, like, and then like, you know, compounding that each year and adding that little thing to it compared to like buying them some random toy or whatever it is. Like, that's not going to get that much value out of it because they got enough toys already. That's the point of that. So that's always been my little thing. And it's always fun like seeing that. And even now, the way you can share it over cash app or however it is. I was going to say how you gift them a stock. How you do that? So usually, before I would just send them the money and I'll tell the parents, like, buy them this. Let me see you buy it. Okay, you did it. Cool. Like, and they would have it in whatever portfolio they decided to do it in. And then sometimes now with the cash app thing, I'll just be like, I'll just buy it. I'll just send it over as the stock. You know how you can send it to the stock or whatever on cash app? I didn't know you could do that. Yeah. So you could do that on there. It's dope. So I'll just send it like that and like, hold this for them and do it that way too. That's cool. And then everybody, you know, some people have it in the fidelity account or whatever it is like different ways. So everybody's got their own ways on how they do it. My goal at the end of the day is just see them get something cool and let it grow. And yeah, if it don't impact me that much, I'm like, this is fire. I think it's dope. Right. I mean, for me, bro, always coming up, like I was always a kid. I had secret stashes all in my room. You know, I had some secret stash in my socks and I had a secret stash with my Pokemon cards and I had a secret stash under my bed in the little plastic toolbox. And I would put a little quarter here, a dollar here, you know, and I'd spread the wealth out. And then, you know, you look at a secret stash and you're like, oh, I got, I actually got some money in there. So that's kind of how I still do it. Like when I started doing that with the different platforms, I got money in different places and now the properties and, you know, overall investments, really what I'm doing is diversifying. Like as I was, as a kid, it's also what I was doing. I was diversifying my hiding spots, you know what I mean? Right. My assets, my streams of income. So you think with, because I need to know how they always say classic, like what do they say, millionaire, seven streams of income or something like that, like different investments or whatever. Like for me, it sounds like you got like over 20 or 30 different types of investments, whether it's a little bit or a lot, whether it's a home or a stock or portfolio here, portfolio there, like all those little things, whether it's angel investing, whether it's whatever. But I don't know, what would you say? Because I was thinking about that too, like for myself. Well, I've heard, I've heard both. I've heard that millionaires always have seven streams of income. But I've also heard more recently that creating wealth is through building one asset. One big thing. And then selling it. Yeah. Conserving wealth is through diversifying, diversifying income streams, essentially. So like the income streams is, is that's what helps you to conserve your wealth. But to create your wealth, it's building, creating value in an asset that then you can either leverage and or sell. And that's what every, that's funny you say that. I feel like since COVID, maybe I would say I've been hearing that more. A lot of people talk about the exit. What's the exit strategy? Yeah, right. What's this? How do I get out of it? How can I build this thing up to make it worthy of selling? And who's gonna buy it and all those stuff? Yeah. At least, I don't know, would you say that's about? No, that sounds, that sounds right. I mean, obviously it's been a thing forever, but like. No, I think it's definitely more of the conversation now of like, what is your exit strategy? And you know, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna sell whatever it is that you're, that you're building? You know, I think the seven streams of income, it could, that can be dangerous if you're doing seven different things out of subpar level. Right. Versus doing one thing extremely well. And then that thing when it blows up and has true value, then you sell it and then take the funds and spread them among those seven different things. You know, I think that's like the probably more accurate thought process, but you know, I'm a guy who likes to have a lot of different pots on the stove. It's just, each thing has to make sense independently. I'm like that too. Like I, because I don't want to feel like I didn't try it or like I didn't like, damn, I should have did that. You know, like, I want to be at least like, at least I got some type of skid of the game. You know what I'm saying? Like it ain't my whole net worth going into it, but like I want to at least say like, all right, I tried it. You know? Yeah. I think investments of capital was, I think it's fine to, I mean, I think you should diversify, right? But when you're talking investments of your time and your energy and those resources that like you can't get back, you only have a certain amount of them. You know, you only have 24 hours in a day. You only have a certain amount of energy to pour into something. That's when it's a little bit more dangerous to like spread yourself out so thin. You know what I mean? And so that for me is something that I battle against because I'm such an, I'm an idea person. I'm a creative person. So when I have an idea, I want to do it, but you know, I have to like be diligent about, you know, we're working on this idea. And if this other new thing doesn't add to the project or make sense in the big picture of what I'm trying to build, then it'll take a step back and put in the archives. So with the, you would say you definitely pour more energy into like the creative agency and everything. That's like higher on priority list right now. Yeah, that's certainly taking precedent over other things. You know, have slowed down on real estate, have slowed down on, you know, still investing in stocks and other things. But as far as my time and energy goes, it goes to Scarlet Creative and the B-Scar TV podcast. And for me, it was something that made sense to pour energy and time into while I was playing football because it couldn't, they complimented one another. You know, being a football player helped me in the creative lane. Being in the creative lane differentiated me as a football player, but also grew my brand as a football player. So they've poured into one another and the whole thought process was like, let me pour energy into the brand that is Brennan Scarlet, the story who is Brennan Scarlet on and off the football field. Productize it in a way where we build a team and a service around doing this for athletes, helping brand, helping athletes build their brands, helping brands connect with those athletes organically. Let's create a business behind it. So then, you know, as soon as my time is done in football, you know, we can go out to the market and we can service other athletes, service other brands. And it's fun because you can still be like a part of the game. Still in the game. You know what I'm saying? Like you still aligned with football and everything like that. Yeah. Like that was my thing too. I was like, oh, if I don't make it to the league, I'm still gonna make league money. I just got to figure out how to do it because it's not even like hanging with the homies that's in the league or anything. Like financially, it's more like, I don't know. It's always like, I never really wanted to be like a burden to, you know, how like make it to the league and everybody just want like everything from you. Yeah. And then you got to pay for everything. You got to do all this and you're just like, it's draining you mentally, physically, financially, everything. I'm like, bro, I'm trying to hang out, do the same stuff. I'm trying to go do all the same cool stuff. Like I'm in the league, but I'm not. Like it'd be the same thing. And that's my way of like, I guess being aligned with it in some kind of sense. Still doing stuff with athletes, still doing things, but with yours is like a perfect alignment. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, I could be still shooting this advertisement at the Super Bowl with so-and-so because I'm in front of my clients or whatever and you're 45 years old. Yeah. Yeah. I love, I mean, I love staying close to the game and I love the game. And for me, it's been an exercise, especially over the past like six months and not playing. It's been an exercise in figuring out what is it about the game that I love? You know, what parts of the game do I want to carry with me through the rest of my life and into my career? And for me, just remember as a kid coming up, watching certain movies, you know, to remember the Titans or like the hoop dreams or, you know, reading stories in sports illustrated or the holiday issue of East Bay and reading the stories and like that should just inspire me as a kid. And still to this day, like through my playing career, I've watched Notorious with Conor McGregor. I have it downloaded on my iPad, but I'll watch that before every game. Like the day before a game, I'm in the hot tub or the cold tub and I'm watching Notorious. And just getting inspiration from the story that was his life. And whoever did that production like was very intentional about using it as a vehicle for inspiration for other people. So for me, it's like, damn, I think that's where the game is so powerful because we can connect with each other through, you know, these inspirational stories. So let me kind of be on the side of like helping to tell those for the athletes and for the brands, for the audiences and, you know, I'm just like building that ecosystem. And I haven't fully like figured out and coordinated how it's going to play out through the agency and production studio. But, you know, it's coming to life because that's where I'm pushing. Yeah, it's dope too because like content itself is one of the fastest growing businesses out there. Yeah. And not only like pursuing something, but it's like you're about to be or you are in arena that's like growing so fast like jetpack. We're still at the beginning of this stuff. It's crazy because people are like, oh, it's saturated this stuff. You're like, I'm like, bro, I've been seeing it. I'm like, we are still working. Yeah, right, right, right. This is crazy. We're spending more time consuming. Yeah. And it's like the phone is like, I don't know what you consider it, how it used to be because they said like TV was the old radio and the phone became the new TV and the like, but it's just like, and it's also interesting seeing through content strategy now how people want more like raw uncut authentic content compared to like real polished, put together strategic stuff. Which is such a shift. It's shifting. Yeah, I would say definitely over like this past year in particular. Yeah. And it's cool because it kind of takes a little bit of pressure off of the grid in the story and doing stuff because it's like, let's just align organically and make this happen instead of having to think too much and doing too much. Still, yeah, put out a good quality product. But yeah, that's interesting. Just take a little bit of the stress off a little bit. And I've noticed that through my stuff too. Like, I'm like, man, I'm not doing this crazy edits. I'm not about to overthink it. I'm not about to think about the title and the thumbnail and stuff like, I know it works. Let me go have a good time. Let me put some stuff together. Let me have some fun. Right. I'm not going to edit it crazy. Let's put it out there. And then it's like, boom, boom, this one's ranking, that one's ranking. I'm like, okay, this is a new era. Like this is what we're coming into now. Yeah. People just want to see that. Yeah. I mean, when I first got into the content game, like it was before Reels on Instagram. Like 2018 is when I really started leaning into content. I did an internship at Complex Networks up in New York. And I just saw it. We're a factory for content, bro. And I was like, shit, I can do this. I can carry around a camera and have an editor and like start sharing my story that way. And having like a quality edit, other people weren't doing that. Definitely other like guys in the league, they were putting out like a high quality edit. And so that's how it came up the thing, like high quality content. But then now anybody can cook up a high quality reel. Right. Like it's more than normal. Because cameras then got cheaper. And it's more than normal to have a high quality production then to just like take a video and just post it as is. And it's really the story and getting people to want to stay to the end. Like the watch time, the retention, like I know that goes back to analytics, but it has a huge factor with like story. And it's like, do you want to watch this person from the beginning to the end of the video? Are you interested in them getting the outcome that they're looking for or whatever it is in that video? And are they achieving that goal? And are they interested enough to watch the process of it? Yeah. Yeah, the user-generated content is good, man. It's got me thinking. You got me thinking now. Yeah, no, it's crazy. It's dope seeing the athletes definitely stepping in, especially with the college players getting in now with their content and everything. And some of them like super amateur when it comes to the type of content. But you see it's going, well, obviously, when you're in school, you got way more friends around you. So it's a lot easier to give viewers shift and stuff. Because it's different being an adult out of school that don't go to school and see all your homies every day. Yeah, facts. Making videos for the internet. Facts. Because think about it. How many people do you see in a single day like that you know, like five? You? You know what I'm saying? Like today, you? Yeah, you see what I'm saying? I was like, oh, well, I mean, I guess I know the guy that serves me at the restaurant that I like to go to every day. But like, you know what I'm saying? No, that's real. That's real. Especially in a remote world, for working remote. That's how it be. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, I got my few spots that I go to and it's like, I see the guy at the bank. I see the guy over here. I see the lady at the grocery store. Like, you see some college athletes clicking up? What content? Yeah. I think Colorado in particular. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like they've figured it out. They're players or the? Players. Organization. Yeah, okay. Players. I would definitely say tapping into something. Yeah, I'm going to take a look. They've done a good job on their YouTube. Yeah. Like just kind of the behind the scenes putting it out there. So you have a podcast of your own and did you convert the whole channel to now just the podcast? Okay. So the whole channel is the podcast and then all the other production comes to it's created for other people. Other clients. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then has a team grown? Are you still working like freelancers? Like what's the process? So my co-founder, Caroline and I, we're the core team at this point. The last six months, we had a junior creative producer that came on and then we had a junior account manager, Sophia and Dylan, both of them are rock stars. We shifted a little bit looking at 2024 and really just trying to figure out how the business makes the most sense. You know, our overhead, our expenses, our sales pipeline, like how we're engaging and retaining clients. It's really a learning process, bro. And the last six months were good because we had a really robust team, right? We were able to pump out B-Scar TV content at a high level, high quality, you know, we were buttoned up, but the business wasn't making sense. So now we've pivoted like, you know, when I say that, like we're just losing too much money. So now shift, you know, think about more so. Hiring people on a project by project basis. So, you know, as the opportunities come, then we're dishing and throwing lobs for folks to work with us instead of trying to bring the folks in and kind of like creating the foundation for something big and then like trying to build that, like, let's wait until something's big. At the same time, we'll kind of create our network of support. And then when we get those, that opportunity, and we're up to our ears and opportunity, then we'll bring people in and start dishing it off. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. So this would be like, essentially, the target is like for mainly athletes and creating their day-to-day content. No, I mean, yeah. Or is it like special projects? Yeah. So how we are positioning ourselves now is being the creative agency for the athlete. So in the same way that you have that a professional athlete will have an agency for their contract, an agency for their marketing, we're getting into a space now where you need to have an agency that handles your creative output. So what is your brand? How are you telling your story? How are you communicating that? How are you actually executing and implementing your brand partnerships? Okay. Which, you know, the agency and the marketing group, they don't add as deep into that as I think there is room for. So I think there's a little bit of white space that Scarlet Creative wants to fill. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because yeah, like definitely in the social media, especially, like a non-commercial side, like it is just like Wild Wild West and so many different levels, even when it comes to like brand deals and pricing. Yeah. Like I could charge one brand $7,000 for a thing and then I could get an offer for $1,000 from another brand. And I'd be like, this is like the same type of work, but like two different things. Would you do both of them? It depends. We can't put you out there like that. Well, it depends on. $7,000 at least. That's the floor for the agency. That's like the, we'll make it happen. Let's do it like, but it's, it depends on like how much I'll walk with the band, with the brand. So yeah, I just hired my assistant as my manager as well. So basically, like what she did in the past was like managing all my backend, email marketing, and just a little stuff within the community and all the little things like that for me. But now with the brand deals, it takes a lot off my plate with communicating and negotiating and making sure I'm not missing no opportunities and all those different things because especially with being a creator, sometimes you might get hit and they're like, Hey, we got this last minute opportunity. We need to reply by tonight or tomorrow. And we got to have the content idea done and ready and shot and first draft approved by Friday and today's Wednesday. It happens sometimes. And it's like, damn, I saw the email next week and I'm like, ah, that could have been a dope opportunity. We're like, oh, you get to film with so and so and do this thing. So all those little things kind of go along with it. I don't remember the initial first part we was talking about, but. Essentially he's building, building. Oh, yeah. The Wild Wild West of it. Yeah. And it's so interesting how that works. So you guys are going to have to figure out ways to navigate the value of the creator too and their brand and what they're doing and then also like dealing with like egos of the person that you're working with. I feel like because they got to humble themselves a little bit and realize like, yeah, just cause you're so and so the way your content output is or the way your numbers are based off of viewership or something doesn't provide the same value that the brand is looking for. Yeah. The number that you want. Yeah. And then you have to have that conversation with them or whatever it is to say, okay, here's a strategy. Just still make them make this thing work. Yeah. Yeah. For us, I think, I mean, we've always operated on both sides of the table, right? So we'll work directly with brands because our bread and butter is being able to organically tell the story of the brand in collaboration with whatever athlete that they want to work with, you know, because we've been crafted and came up in sport. And then on the other side, being also able to service the athlete, which kind of the proof of concept has been the work that we've done with me and my brand and, you know, across different channels from the agency, from the foundation, etc. from the podcast, you know, so we kind of work both angles with the brands, with the athlete. And then for us, like internally, we also think about how are we going to tell our original story? So, you know, being able to dig into long form content and produce and create and sell IP is something that we want to build into. So it's kind of like a three-headed monster triangle of different business initiatives that we, you know, it's really this balancing act and trying to figure out what makes the most sense and remain fluid enough to just shape shift into whatever that lane is that's driving the fastest or makes the most sense. I feel that. And also, the project that you guys worked on, and maybe I just thought about it, the one I helped y'all with filming, it was like the finance one y'all did for the kids. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Like it's dope because you guys are doing brand deals for stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? Explain how it went. Yeah, that was Stash 101. Scarlet Creative helped to produce this financial literacy coursework in Portland, inner city Portland. We're essentially Stash 101, which is an offshoot of Stash, the fintech platform that we're talking about. Earlier, they wanted to do some curriculum for some kids. We worked with the PIL and this like community youth group that they did, a youth program in the summertime. Scarlet Creative got myself Indomicon Sue and his wife, Katya Sue together to essentially, this was the athlete in connection with the brand and through high quality production. Scarlet Creative, so it was kind of the connection of all the different things that we want to work in. And for Indomicon, he's really big on financial literacy and spreading and promoting awareness of the importance of financial literacy him and Katya both. So for us, it was like, this is something that aligns with Indomicon and who he is and his brand. And then Stash 101 is trying to grow and build in this space. So, you know, let us kind of make the match and tell the story. Yeah, I think that is like a perfect example of what you're doing. Because I mean, I haven't seen all the projects or anything, but I know from being a part of that one, in particular, I was like, damn, this is dope. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I see the kids and then like learning from them. You know, they just there for a few hours. Yeah. But like, even from then, from the beginning to the end of the day, like seeing them already learning stuff and like, yeah, it's like, damn, their parents don't even know this stuff. Like you could hear them say like, man, my parents don't know this or they haven't told me this or whatever. And now they get to go home and teach that and you see in it, you know, at a younger generation, having the impact. That was rewarding work for sure. Definitely. Okay. So you want to go deeper in anything or do you want to what you want to do? What time is it? What we got here, man? 6.30. Shilling. I don't know, man. I feel it good. How are you feeling? I feel it good, bro. I feel like the conversations being good, bro. You've had some awesome people in here. I'm honored to be on the DNA show. You know I got to have you on, bro. It's an honor, man. I looked at the lineup. You've had Henry Oregon. You've had A.C. Aaron Cooper. You've had some goats on here, man. Gentry. It's an honor to be in the lineup, bro. Yeah. Nah, bro. You know I had to have you on. Okay. Let's do the fire around there. Let's wrap it up. Okay, bro. Let's get out of here. Okay. Wait, actually, random question. You've been watching any shows or movies lately? Yellowstone. Yellowstone? Yellowstone. And then I just started a show that's fire, bro. What's it called? You got to check it out. It's called Home. Home? On Apple TV Plus. I got to check it out. Like, it's essentially it goes to these different cities to see these different homeowners slash designers in the homes that they live in. Okay. So there's one in Indonesia. There's one with Theaster Gates in Southside, Chicago. There's an episode in Ghana with this guy. And it's well shot. It's well produced. The editing is incredible. It's an A24 production. So you know the A24 production studio? That's all you had to say. You should have just told me that from the beginning. Bro, it is. And they're only like 30, 35 minute episodes. So they're easy to consume and really inspiring to see because they follow these people. It's not just like MTV Cribs, you know, just looking at it. It's like they follow their lives, you know, why they're being so thoughtful, how they're thinking about the design, how they connect with the community. This and that and that. And bro, it's like inspiration just comes to you, bro. That's funny. You said that because that is definitely 100% of my alley. I feel like I didn't watch all the shows already. That's all like Netflix and everything. So I'm like, check this one out. Ah, I don't got nothing else to watch. That's why I was asking home. Okay, I'm definitely going to watch it. All right, fire around. Here we go. These are the questions that everybody asked me. So I got to ask you. Okay, come on. How many pairs of shoes you got in your collection? 75. 75. Oh, that's solid. Okay. What is the most you spent on a pair of shoes? 1,200. 1,200? What you got? Probably my Gucci boots. Oh, okay. Well, I mean the Gucci boots, can I get a size 16? Wait, you a 16? I'm a 15. 15? Can I get a size 15 and a Gucci? They was like, yeah, we got to go to the back for that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gucci does a good job. They're inclusive of the big folk. A lot of European brands are not. I feel that. I know I'll be struggling with the 13. There's a lot of stuff. It's like 12 and under. Yeah. Okay. Oh, what's the greatest shoe of all time? The ones. The Jordan ones. Yeah, I got a pair of band ones. They're some of my favorite shoes. Okay. That's a good one. And last one, classic. If you go back, talk to your young self, 16, 17 years old in high school. What would you tell them? It could be, you know, just reflecting. It could be a word of advice. It could be anything. What would you tell them? I will say, man. Young B, number one, you're good, man. You're good. The things that you want to do in life, the things that you want to pursue, the things that you want to become, the things that you are currently, it's all good. And live your life to the fullest and take the deep breath in the moments that are tough on you. When you hit your adversity, take a deep breath. When you have the good moments, also take a deep breath, just stay. And B, Brennan Scarlett. B Scar, B. B. B. Okay, now can you hit the people with all your signature lines that you got on your page? This is the pursuit of high quality content, which is a never-ending pursuit. We say, welcome to B Scar TV. And I have a very, very special guest. My dog, DJ Willingham, aka the DNA Show. One I just came up with, B Scar TV. This is the B Scar TV podcast, where we are serving inspiration for lifestyle innovation through high quality conversation. He's out here rapping. Oh no, he's a poet. He's a poet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, don't tell everybody. Tell everybody where they can find you at Foundation. We'll have all the stuff linked down below, as well as websites, donation links, all the different stuff. We'll have everything for your socials, but let them out. Appreciate it. Number one, the Big Yard Foundation. You can find us at bigyardfoundation.org. You can find me on Instagram. It's where I'm most active at b.scar. I'm on YouTube at B Scar TV. Twitter at Brennan Scar. I don't really use Twitter like that. Gotta get on TikTok, bro. Oh, TikTok at B Scar TV. Or at b.scar. That's it, that's it. Appreciate it, yo. Hey, I appreciate you, man. This has been dope. Always. I love it. I feel like we're either one of us or in or out of town all the time, so we're always missing each other on stuff. The thing is, man, the thing is I gotta give you flowers, bro. You are the premier creator in Portland. For me to see what you've done, you're the definition of an entrepreneur throughout our young days in elementary school and middle school, seeing how you were flipping the sneakers seeing how you created your website, you created your brand, you started creating content, the YouTube page, and not only are you leading the charge, but you're also looking behind you and giving back the knowledge. You're passing the knowledge back and as many times you share with me tips and guidance and advice on how I should build my YouTube page. You've talked to other guys, I know Kendrick Bourne, you've helped Ken, you've helped so many of us and I don't think you even realize probably how many of us that you've inspired to chase and to want to build our brands and our companies and you've done it. And so I appreciate you continuing to lead that charge and give it back, man, it's an honor being here in your studio, bro. For real. I appreciate it, bro. Once the next event, you got an art show or anything coming up? Yeah, Big Yard Studio will be in May. That's going to be dope. We'll have our Mother's Day weekend. We're going to have a Big Yard community hike here soon that we're hoping to be in collaboration with Arcterix. Yeah, rocking the joint right here, a little Arcterix jacket. Okay. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, but that's what we got coming, but this summer we're going to be programming. Yeah, please send me this stuff early if you can because it's, I'll be like a few months after I lock it in, bro. I'm just trying to make it. I do. All right, bro. Let's get out of here. Get back to our everyday lives and do what we got to do and all them other things. Hit that subscribe button, hit the follow button, and give a five-star review on the platforms and what else is we supposed to say as podcasters? Give us some constructive criticism. Yeah, there we go. Give us some feedback because we're in the pursuit of high quality content and it is an endless pursuit. Yeah.