 Thanks a lot. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening colleagues, wherever you are. Thanks a lot for joining. And on behalf of FEAO's regional office for Asia and the Pacific and also on behalf of our excellent partner, C4, it's my great pleasure to welcome all of you to today's exciting event on youth contribution to innovative forestry for a sustainable future. I mean, we are going to talk about youth proposals for innovative technologies in the forest sector in the Asian Pacific. In that context, we are indeed privileged to have all of you with us today. As you might have noticed in recent years, particularly during this World Forestry Congress and its expected deliberations, forests are increasingly being called upon to play an important role in addressing a number of global challenges, be it poverty alleviation, be it food insecurity or climate change. More importantly, in achieving sustainable development goals by a number of member countries. As shown by the FEAO's Asia Pacific Forest Sector Outlook study, there are two prerequisites we identified for the forest sector to play that kind of important or significant role. Number one, we need to continuously uptake and I mean, promote the uptake and scaling up of innovative technologies. As a matter of fact, innovation and science are key to achieve this kind of increased productivity, profitability, new jobs, and basically making the sector more attractive to the new development challenges. The second prerequisite is involvement, active engagement of youth. So these are the two important prerequisites based on which this entire or initiative on youth in innovative technology, innovative forestry technologies is predicated upon. This is particularly relevant to Asia Pacific region because this region is home to 60% of world youth population. In terms of absolute number, it comes to around 700 million people. So it is not a small number and really the entire region, a number of countries are looking up to this youth for their contribution, for their active engagement as we move forward. This is indeed is a very, very important resource for the future. Particularly, we are looking forward to tech savvy youth as many of you have already demonstrated by contributing a number of papers and innovations in forestry. So your role is very pivotal in enhancing the uptake and scaling up of innovative technologies. You can also be the champions of forward-looking, innovative, and out-of-box thinking as I already mentioned. So that was the main objective, a reason behind FEO and C4 joining hands together, engaging youth, organizing special seminar or workshop on this particular topic, coming out with a specific publication, highlighting some of these contributions, providing a lot of visibility to these excellent contributions being made by you people, youth to this sector. We are also grateful for your contribution to the roadmap, which we will be releasing very soon on this particular topic that actually demonstrates a number of new developments related to forest technology, which our colleagues will be further elaborating in this side event. So finally, I would like to thank all of you for your valuable contributions. And we look forward to going a little bit deeper some of the key aspects of these technologies and how they are going to help promote the forest sector in this region. Once again, thank you very much. And I hand over the floor to C4 colleagues, Alexander or Vincent. Thank you once again. Thank you very much, Raul. I want just very briefly to explain the why of this event. With FEO, we worked on the development of a roadmap for innovative technologies and as part of the development in the region in the Asia Pacific region, and as part of the development of this roadmap, we made a call for contribution of youth, either students or already working or young researchers or already working in the forestry sector, and either born or based in the region. And we had a lot of contributions for the best of them. We asked them to develop them. And in fact, the initial idea was just to use them for the roadmap, but they were so good and interesting and diverse that finally we decided to make a publication out of it. And it was released last year in the GLF in Glasgow just before the climate, during the climate change COP. And then we had the idea, and this is why there is this event here, to use the experience of all these young researchers, student youth, involved in the preparation of this publication, and the experience of all the youth present here on the site, and the experience of distinguished professors engaged in academia and of Afoko capacity building center director, to think about what can we get out of the experience of youth and innovation and how it is. So this is why after a presentation by James Roschetto, who piloted the whole process, we'll have these two sessions with two questions. How can innovative technologies improve and facilitate youth engagement in forestry and forest related issues? Because this is one of the things that was very apparent in many of the contributions is that innovative technologies make things easier for youth to interact together, to be interested in forest. And the second question is how to better integrate innovative technologies in curriculas, because what we see that it's very different depending on countries, depending on universities, and there are probably opportunities to do more things, including through regional cooperation. And don't forget that all of that began because of the regional office of FAO in the region and the Asia Pacific Forest Recommission. So the idea is really to make ideas coming out of this room that can be used by decision makers to make progress on upscaling innovation and the role of youth in this upscaling. Okay, so without further ado, I'll give the floor to James Roschetto, who will briefly present this publication that I encourage you to read. So just to begin, what I want to say is that thank you to Rao and Alexander for a very nice introduction. But I'd also like to say that it's been a great pleasure working with a group of very talented and dynamic youth, both students and young professionals. And it's good to know, it's reassuring to know that they are the forest and forest sector managers of the future. So again, the background was already touched on, but let me just reiterate that the Third Asia Pacific Forest Sector Outlook Study pointed out that the uptake in scaling of integrated technology was a bit slow and uneven, and that it was being a missed opportunity. There was also a call for youth to be more involved because for the reasons that Alexander just covered. So in response, FAO and FTA aircraft and C4 and aircraft to be specific implemented the Asia Pacific Roadmap for innovation technologies in the forest sector. That the results of the of the roadmap will be presented on Friday at noon Korean time, if I'm not mistaken. And within the roadmap that was already said, there was a very specific integrated role for the youth. A quick overlook at that. So we called for contributions in late 2020. There were 71 submissions, 20 of those were selected for the development of full papers, a little bit of so there were 13 of those developed in the full papers were submitted peer reviewed and published in the document that I just mentioned. Total 32 authors from 14 countries. The youth research covered both basic and applied science. And the results and the approaches covered a number of different technology categories, which I'll get into in a minute. And also that these these results and approaches are applicable to a range of countries across the region, but also outside the region. The roadmap identified four categories of innovative technologies that were relevant to the forest sector. And the youth papers covered all of these. So digital technologies, biological technologies, process product technologies, finance and innovative social innovations, the youth papers under the concept or under the topic of digital technologies, very much focused on satellite based technologies for monitoring, reporting, forest management, the biological technologies focused on improved genetic resources and germ plasm, and also taking those technologies and the material itself and getting it to communities who can make a big contribution by promote by producing this material and using it themselves. The process and product technologies focused by the youth really looked at harnessing the digital technologies for improved forest planning, management and monitoring, but also microscopic techniques look at wood anatomy, and also some on engineered wood products, specifically binder list particle board technology for financial and social innovations and focus was strongly on community forestry, and more specifically on how to empower community forestry user groups. So enterprise development, citizen science, really how to use ICT technologies to empower that group of very important benefactors of forestry. So products and events, this has already been mentioned, there's a research volume that was published at the end of last year. All the youth papers were are cited inside the ICT working paper, which is being finalized in the final review. And all the papers were presented at the youth event or the side event for global landscape forum at the Glasgow COP, as was mentioned already. For today, we want to look at two of the videos on the technologies. We're going to have a panel discussion. We're going to have contributions from the authors and other youth, as well as a polling of the audience, your good selves, as well as a wrap up session to look at where to go from here. A little bit more specific details on the sessions and the panels. So the first session, as already mentioned by Alexander, is looking at how innovative technologies can improve and facilitate engagement of youth in the sector. This will be chaired by Dr. Moon-Joo Chae-Yong from Kanghwan National University. The second session is specifically focused on how to better integrate innovative technologies into forest curriculum. And this will be chaired by Professor Choo Sook-Kangh from Seoul National University. Then the wrap up session, which is again focused on the way forward and conclusions. This will be facilitated by Vincent Gitz of aircraft, sorry, of C4 and aircraft. Dr. Chae-Yong will join the panel. Professor Kang will join the panel. We will also have Mr. Rai Young-Suzan from AFOCO. So AFOCO is the Asian Forest Cooperation Organization. We will also have another member of the panel will be Yoon-Sana Yambak Surin, who is the DG Director General of the Department of Forest Policy, Governor of Mongolia. He is also the current chair of the Asia Pacific Forest Commission. The last member of the panel will be Sheila Words, who is the Senior Forestry Officer of FAO of Asia Pacific Region and she's the Secretary of the Asia Pacific Commission. So that's a quick overview and rundown background as well as the session today. So thank you very much for your attention and let's have a great session. So I think back to Alexander. Good afternoon, everyone. Yeah, nice to meet you. Yeah, it's online, but very nice to see you. Okay, as he introduced me, I'm Eun-Ju Chung. Yeah, I welcome all of you here. Okay, can you hear me? Yes. Okay, yeah, may I start? Okay, I'm going to start. Okay. Yeah, let me introduce myself first. I'm a professor at the Division of Forest Science at Kawan National University and it's my honor to be a moderator in this session and I'm very much appreciated. CIFR allowed me to meet young experts from all abroad and have time to discuss the future of forestry. So yeah, first of all, we need to see the video, right? Okay. I'm going to, should I introduce the panels first? Okay, yeah, because you know, yeah, it was all of a sudden to me. So yeah, first of all, the first session, we're gonna have two questions to the audience and then we will see a shoot video from Nepal. Yeah, Mr. Nobar, yeah, he's going to give us presentation by video. So can you play first? Across the world, the youth are demanding for more inclusive, transparent, and effective rainforest monitoring and management. This is the aspiration of the youth in developing tropical countries where deforestation is widespread. One of the technologies to monitor forests is the satellite technology. Depending on the specification, the satellite can give you images of a daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly period. Given this amazing technology, our paper explores ways to engage youth in tropical forest monitoring. We use three case studies from Malaysia and Indonesia to identify factors key to their successful adoption. Our first case study shows how HACA, organization founded by Aceh youth, leverages on satellite technology such as Google Earth, Planet, and Global Forest Watch. These platforms allow them to monitor forest changes in near real time and prioritize areas to patrol. This targeted approach is critical considering the 2.6 million hectares of Aceh forest to look after. Secondly, the Hutan Watch platforms demonstrate the use of Global Forest Watch integrated with local information such as permanent reserve forests, totally protected areas, and critical landscapes. The Hutan Watch platform promotes forest transparency as many of these data are not usually available for public use. Thirdly, Urundata is an example of how youth, especially the university students, can contribute in data gathering and verification through games. As you can see here, you can swipe left or right if you think the image corresponds to natural primary forest. Your answer can help the Urundata team to verify the satellite images. In the three case studies, we found that the youth are generally familiar and they like to use the technology. To foster their interests, we need to train and build their capacity and create a community of practice. With the right incentive and social media campaign, we can increase the adoption of satellite technology among youth. Technology is not perfect, hence we need to do rapid prototyping so that we can fix problems quickly. Our case studies show that when empowered with the right technology and enabling factors, the youth can be positive force in monitoring and tackling tropical devastation. Thank you. And then, yeah, I'm going to introduce our panelists and we have two panelists here on site and we have some online. So one from Nepal, yeah, Lama, Sony, yeah, and then a second person in physical here is Joe as a multi-client. Okay, we have him here. And then Sarajansky Tuan and she's from France, maybe online. And then Cecily and from Philippine and Gabriel, Marie, Jessica from Denmark. And then the last one is June Mandawali, but he's not online, right? Yeah, I don't think so, yeah. So yeah, I'm going to give two minutes for each person and they are going to give answers for the questions how the innovative technologies can be used in forestry. So shall we start, Sony? Okay, Sony, the floor is yours. Good afternoon, everyone. Namaste, warm greetings. I'm Sony Lama working as a biodiversity conservationist in rural and remote Himalayas of Nepal. Do you know that Nepal continues to be at the lead of community based management practitioners globally? However, the deforestation rate has increased by 25% over the past 20 years. We, the red partner network team moving community forest user groups from seven remote districts of Western Nepal to take the pulse of their forest territories via forest water. Forest water is actually a remote sensing application. It's a mobile application that brings satellite deforestation assets of global forestry, which is actually the remote sensing program into the field to collect near real-time tree cover loss deforestation and fire loss data. Can you move to the next slide? So yeah, and from 2001 to 2020, the study area lost 4.63 kilo hackers of tree cover. This tree cover loss released 2.74 metric tons of greenhouse gases from March 2020 to December 2020. 285 verse and 2983 glass dollars were reported. The tree cover loss was minimal in those districts where there were a higher number of community forest user groups. This highlights the effectiveness of community-based forest management approach or practice that it's protecting the overall forest condition of Nepal. The data received from the forest water application is in real time is being sent to the divisional forest officers and the concerned authorities in Nepal so that they can react promptly to the emerging states. Can we move to the next slide? So yeah, the integration of remote sensing technologies like forest water into the local forest monitoring efforts brings considerable computational capacity at just a tap of a finger. And such personal digital assistance have significant potential to enhance community participation in the data collection process which contributes to the successful adoption of community-based forest management practice. And forest water has enabled our key stakeholders to visualize and evaluate forest-related information in ways that benefit for the decision-making process. And lastly also, it will be very crucial that this innovative technology is very quickly enhancing the conservation efforts, existing conservation efforts, as well as devising long-term conservation forest plans. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, and then can we hear from Clarence? Good afternoon, honorable guest delegates, ladies and gentlemen. First of all, I'm Clarence, forestry student and practitioner in Benguet State University in the Philippines, and also speaking on behalf of the group, Philippine native trees enthusiast. Can you share my slide? Yes, I'm arriving. Perfect. So okay, first of all, we all know that there is no perfect system, even if we want to achieve at the highest level. So way back 2011, the government, the Philippine government established the National Greening Program, or NGP, that will focus on re-greening the country and cover the unproductive and denuded forest lands for production and protection purposes. This is a great program still running until today for 11 years, and many practices have been deployed since then. Next slide, please. However, as per the recent assessment, such as the commission on audit, the official auditor of the Philippine government, the challenge is that it is revealed that exotic and invasive species of trees were planted by the stakeholders, or what we call the people's organizations. And it is more important also to mention the mix of exotic and native species in the program. To avert extinction, we need to grow more native and endemic species of trees, particularly endangered species. So now we need mechanized nurseries, which are focused on the production of these species. Given the present capacity of nurseries around the country, determining the seed sizes that they can hold is critical in which species of trees are suitable. Considering the current capacities of nurseries in the country, evaluating the seed sizes, they can also hold significant indetermination of suitable seeds. And to better improve the current system, it is worthwhile to source out native tree seedlings from geo-tagged mother tree species. So these trees will be tracked and geo-located to have stable seed source for the nurseries in which it could be nurtured and protected by the POs or the stakeholders surrounding the area with the help of local government and the agency. And to further improve the functionality. Next slide, please. The functionality and operationality of MMFNs, or modernized and mechanized forest nurseries, transparent, complete, proper reporting monitoring and evaluation of all the nurseries must be done to ensure the survivability of seedlings. And lastly, aggressive education and information campaigns must be achieved for the stakeholders and other stakeholders to holistically understand the goal and the future directions of MMFNs for conservation, restoration and consumption of forest products. Thank you. Thank you. In this session, actually, as the first facilitator introduced, we are dealing with the digital technologies. So the first one presented about the satellite-based image techniques. And second one is she also uses some forest watcher and it's in mobile application. And the third one is he's using geo-tagging on the mother trees for seed production. And then we are going to have two more presenters, three more, two more presenters from online. So is Sarajevski, is there Sarajevski or for Gabriel? I'm the one. So my name is Twan. So I just gave more the family name. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Twan is my first day. Yeah. Yeah. Please give us your presentation. Oh, okay. Yes, Twan, you should answer to the question. How can innovative technologies improve and facilitate the engagement of youth in forestry and forest related issues? Right. That's a complex question. I'd like to give a short answer. So my innovative technologies are many kind of technologies to the right, mostly based on smartphones. They're the ones that use everyday, I think, like social media and maybe application online. And I think the user smartphone can be really optimized for forestry and for youth. So I have in mind the development of like a library of species of trees, for example, trees that can be in the forest, but also trees that are in the city, because they're used to they mostly live in urban landscape. And even in urban landscape today, you still have like a lot of trees and a lot of green areas. So I think that would be nice to develop application or reuse applications where youth can engage with the green landscape and with the trees in those landscapes. As an example, I have the trees.sg for the Singapore like tree collection. So on this website that you can access through an app or also through a web application, you can see all the trees of the city of Singapore. And each tree has has been like put in this database. And you can see the edge of the tree, you can see the species of tree, and you can even get like some knowledge of the use of this tree, like it can be used for fruit production or for leaves production or for medicinal purpose. And through this application, the youth can really connect with the different species of trees. And this is one example, but I know there are others in other cities. So I think for cities in Asia Pacific or in the world, like it would be nice to to create this application widely. So youths can reconnect with nature because because I feel like the youth disconnect of youth with nature. A lot of youths today, they live in cities and they spend more time on online, on the virtual world, and so they can lose this connection to nature. So I think that was my short idea for helping youths to product the first and connect with nature through innovative technology. Thank you. Okay, thank you for your answer. Actually, he is also a young people's person. So his very good news to use the handheld device and then using some webs. So he thinks the database based of the trees and all the measurement things, the application, the high innovative technologies would be very useful for the forestry. So he may say yes for the for the answers. And we're going to hear the other answers from Jessica. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Hi, everyone. So to add to Suwan's answer. So in our generation, we are always inquisitive about how technology works. And we always have this drive of trying new technologies in our day to day lives. These new technologies utilize platforms that are already familiar to us. So for example, we have Google Maps. So they are more attractive to us than paper maps, as it is more interactive and it helps us to better visualize things. For me, these technologies could serve as a bridge between the youth and the forestry sector. When you bring in this innovative technologies in the forestry sector, the youth becomes more interested to participate. Secondly, these technologies make engagement easier and can bring more people on board in tackling forest related issues. For instance, we can all participate in wildlife monitoring by reporting through our smartphones any sightings of endangered wildlife or illegal activities around us. Thus, incorporating forest related issues with innovative technologies will allow us to engage and be part of the solution. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. She also agreed to the use of innovative technologies will facilitate the forestry and engagement of the social people. So, and thank you for your opinion. And then, so I'm going to pull. Actually, we have two questions in this session. First one is, do you think that innovative technologies can attract youth to forestry? And the second one is digital technologies and the ease of youth with youth use them and are often presented as a key means to facilitate the engagement of social society and society as a whole with forest related issues. So, if you agree with this question, then you can answer to yes. So, I'm going to do a poll. Sorry. Sorry. Excuse me if I interrupted. I think we have at least two other young scientists that would like to reply to your first question. Yes. We have Nora. Nora, are you online? Are you still with us? Yes. Oh, no. She presented. I can just give very brief feedback from myself. So, in my experience, such technology could help facilitate the youth engagement because this technology can help create a level playing field or at least an entry point for the youth to get involved in the management of the forest. So, as we might be aware of, many youth lack the access, the network, or the resources to critical data and information regarding forest status, forest ownership, land use, land ownership, and this is important for the management of forest. And unfortunately for now, I think in many countries, these data are scattered all across the different channels and they're not easily available. So, we need this access of data and information to allow for more inclusive transparent and participatory forest management. So, as the case study of Hutton Watch platform shows, the availability of these data on an online platform can help the youth to participate and take action in more inclusive forest management. Thank you. Okay, thank you. So, do we have one more answer or? Yes, I think we were expecting June Mandawali, but she just sent an apologies because her connection is too bad. And so, as I understand, since Clarence and Sony have made their presentation, maybe we'll move them to session 02 for the answer. So, we can go to the polling if you want, as you have announced. I see. Okay, yeah. So, I will put online the polling. There's the instructions on how to join, you need to use Slido. So, it's fairly easy. I'm going to show this now on my screen. This is the, you go with your mobile phone or with your computer, you join Slido.com and you enter this code, which is WFC youth. And or you can scan this QR code with your mobile phone and then click on the link and it will bring you to the polling. And so, we can start. Okay, then can we see the questions one by one? Okay, yeah. Here, yeah. We have one question, the first question here. And do you think the innovative technologies can attract use to forest? Oh, 100% yeah. How many people put there? Okay, so because we have a lot of Korean students here, so I can translate a little bit, yeah. So, here in, in, uh, Okay. Oh, somebody say no. Okay. Oh, no. Pull back. Okay. They're embarrassed. Oh, back. The no is back. All right. I think that this poll has been quite an obvious reply. So, we can move to the second question. Second question. Yes. Yes, I can hide the results for a moment. Second question is that one. So, I'm hiding the results for a moment. So that, so that we don't influence the people when they vote. Sorry. It was an error in, on my part on the previous poll. Okay. I think we have more than 30 replies. So, we can start showing the results. There you go. A bit less, a bit less on the yes, some, some no's. Yeah. This is interesting. Yeah, it is. So, do we have to hear from the no's? Why they choose no? It would be interesting. Yes. If you can hear from someone. Oh, you said no. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I see. Yeah. Here's a very good point. Actually, but, you know, it could be a one tool, right? Attract them with the, or showing the data and this technology can be used for the, showing how the forest is deforested, something like that. So, we can attract them and then we can communicate in different ways. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. We need to do all many ways. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for your opinion. And is anybody vote for no here? And anybody can explain why you choose no? Oh, yeah. Right. Can you hear? Can you hear that? Very low. Is there a microphone in the room that they can use? Or they can come to the podium? Yeah, I didn't vote, but I think the reason why there are no answers is because the people experiencing forest-related issues are local communities, which in the first place do not have the infrastructure and the access to the technology. Some of them do not even have internet. So, if we really want to spur change, then we have to make sure that the local communities themselves have the means, have the tools, and not just the people outside the community. So, of course, us in the urban areas, of course, we can assist them and so on, but we have to go the extra step to reach out to them. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Very good point. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. That was my concern because, you know, we all of forests are very remote places and they don't have any infrastructure and sometimes they don't have electricity. So, it could be a problem and maybe urban people, they like it, but the local people, they don't know about it. So, she has a very good point. Thank you. Thank you for your opinion. And then, okay, then we close the... We have two people online that would like to speak. The first one is James. James, you want to... Yeah, just real quick. I mean, I voted yes, but I think there's a generational issue as well. So, it's not just you, right? But older people like myself, if they might not find it as easy. So, that's, you know, sort of an additional point to the previous. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And we also have Sharuk that would like to speak, please. Hello, everyone. Thank you for the opportunity. I agree with our female colleague. It is not easy for everyone to use the innovative technologies. As we can see, we have our first-order innovations like laptops, but second-order innovations are not accessible everywhere. And another point is integrating innovative technologies do also demand a change in teaching style as well. And not all professors who are old enough, they are not easily adaptable to new technologies. And that create a problem as well. Thank you. Thank you. He has the same opinion with her, I guess. Okay. And do we have more opinion online? I don't see anybody online raising their hand anymore. So, I think this is good now. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for all attending this session and then good opinions. And I hope you all are familiar to the innovative technology, but we need to more focus on the forestry than the innovative technologies, I guess. Okay. And then I'm going to wrap up this session, and I'll give a floor to Professor Kang for the next session. Okay. Okay. Hello, everyone. I am Q-Seok Kang from Seoul National University. Now it's the session two. This is very, very, very interesting and nice session. The title or the question of the session two is how to better integrate the innovative technologies in forestry curricula, which means the education systems. As I understand, we have two presentations and seven panels. So, among the seven, we have two on site here and five online, I guess. So, first, we'll have some presentation. Kamran, if you're ready? Yes, Shahrukh, come around. I will run his video. Okay. And then I think the presentation that was scheduled after Shahrukh has already been made in session one. So, we can skip that. Okay. Okay. Yes. So, I will run the video. Good. Good day, everyone. My name is Shahrukh Kamran. And do you know that drone technology can airlift swiftness for insect monitoring? As insect populations decline around the world, that also threatens pre-availability for species like bats and swallows. Therefore, this study, spallot study conducted together with another study on the coexistence of such flying insectivores, which requires better insect monitoring method at different heights. There are many existing insect-repping methods, but they do not have the potential to monitor dynamically. Clearly, the aim of this study is to fold. Firstly, to prepare drones and nets as an alternative to conventional swiftness over large areas. Secondly, to test their effectiveness. I believe such a usage of drones is still largely not in use in many developing countries. This study conducted in northeastern Germany, where we used three different treatments, a conventional molly strap and two innovative drone net designs, with a single hanging and two fixed nets for six different heights covering four types of habitats. Now, shedding some light on few results. This graph here is a summary of insects caught at six different heights. Note that most insects caught by the molly strap at a height of one meter is due to its large area, large surface area and being close to the ground. On the other hand, the insects caught with drones get decreased gradually. So in conclusion, only a very few specialized insects can fly at higher altitudes. The second graph summarizes flying insect orders across all sampling sites, where two flies were the most frequently caught followed by tips, vast and vast. Among the least encountered were the butterflies and the laslings. In conclusion, molly strap caught seven taxonomic orders, while each type of drone caught five taxonomic orders. In fact, it was hard to compare the results directly due to different net designs. To summarize now, it revealed that hobby drones equipped with homemade special nets can be used for dynamic insect sampling, but only at lower altitudes, up to 20 meters due to their limited performance at higher altitudes. This study also paved the way for future studies to consider the potential of drones to follow mid-flight hunting behavior of such flying insectivores and to work further on range of factors influencing their effectiveness. This method is not only limited to crops, but it can also be applied on tree canopy than other aquatic areas. I am sure that this technology gives us hope to get a proper understanding in real time, especially if it becomes affordable for farmers, ecologists and entomologists. However, I also believe it will be challenging to apply the method, especially in areas where there is no proper legal policy and less human resources operating the drones itself. And that's it. Thank you very much, everyone. Okay. Thank you very much. And he's trying to apply the drone technique in the entomology and maybe also some other scientific research or education. Maybe I can use many different purposes. Okay. And then we have which one goes first online or on site? I think the idea is to go first online since in the session before we had first the onsite. We have five. Thank you. Are you ready? Yes, sir. I'm ready. Yep. So for my question about how the battery integrate innovative technologies in forestry. So I focus not only for the educational aspect, but more widely I was thinking about the important application of innovative technologies in forestry sector. So I'd like to emphasize the importance of scale consideration for integrating innovative technologies in the forestry sector. Scale consideration, meaning that wide range of scales from the large to small and even micro scales need to be integrated at the same time when project or plan or educational programs are planned and conducted in the forestry. Large scale of technologies promise quantitative achievement and give overall information of the globe. For example, analyzing satellite data can show us the important changes and tendencies in the forest, specifically under this crucial climate crisis, which the world's monitoring and acts are mandatory. However, it may mean the details may not be enough in case specific information. On the other hand, small scale technologies are able to generate qualitative achievement, the information of specific site of the project or individual trees. So those are also necessary to make project effective and successful. So it will promise a removal of failures and that is again important factor for quantitative achievement in the globe. So in conclusion, quantitative achievement is crucial for the global initiatives which can be supported with a wide scale of technologies and at the same time to support effective and successful project, qualitative consideration should be included with a small scale of technologies. Thank you. Okay, thank you. He's talking about some scale or the project could be the concern. And then the second is Anga Saptura from Indonesia. Yeah. Okay, are you ready? Yes, I'm ready, sir. Okay, thank you for the floor. My name is Anga Saptura from Indonesia. So in my opinion, there are many ways to integrate innovative technology into fresh curricula. The first, we can identify the course because every course there they have a background standard and the purpose to achieve something. So innovative technology must present as a problem solving in the course. And the second, we can imply the innovative technologies in a specific course. This means that we have no need to create a new course only for the technology to the student. In my previous study, I'm a conservation and ecotourism. We learned about the wildlife animal inventory and also ecotourism. So those course are the example for implying the technology. Overall in my mind was drone technology because we can use it for wildlife inventory and also we can find the hazard view or spot point before the ecotourism is created. And the third, we can combine with the student central learning. Just let the student take and discuss about the topic and then make a project and about the innovative technology because basically technology always grow up per day, month and also year. So we can limit the creativity of students. And I think enough for me. Thank you. Okay, thank you. And one of the his point is that please do not disappoint it even if you don't if you are not familiar with innovative technologies. Okay. And then the third one is Sanya. Sanya, I'm from Nepal. Unfortunately, Sanjay is not with us. He was unable to join us. So we can move to Daisy. Daisy Lamathir from Indonesia. Yeah, I'm here. Ready to make questions. First of all, I want to say thank you for this opportunity. No answer so much for the start man. But I think when we talk about young generation, when we talk about teenager, I think, and then we talk about innovation, we can make the relate about the rewards for a competition for making the innovation. Because I am as a young generation know that if the young generation have ambition, so that's why we can make some competition, some innovation to make a sustainable forestry programs. Because I think kids at young generation have ambitions that have a relate for that. Just that. Thank you. Okay. If I understand clearly, then maybe you can make some competition games. So try to give students some incentive, something like that. Okay, then the next one, Mr. Shah Rukh Kamlan from Pakistan. Hi, are you there? Kamlan. Okay, yes. Give a short point here. But I believe such curriculums do already exist. I already personally experienced two examples like that. What we need now is to focus more on open softwares, which may be available to all people in remote areas as well. First, if we can provide technology and internet and everything over there. Second thing, a cooperation is required between the partner countries because as the process is slow, maybe what we cannot invent, maybe we can adapt. And for that, partner countries should split their policies regarding transfer of technologies and scientific research. And I think this type of platform, we need to invent that we will not going to only focus on universities, but at the level of vocational training and open universities, so everyone can get access to that. Thank you very much. Okay, thank you. Yeah, it's very important to make some training and maybe also you need to be familiar with these technologies. And then now we have two panels on site. So maybe colonists. Yeah, now you, okay, yeah. Already you did? Yeah, okay. And then Thoni, okay, do you have more opinion or okay? Okay, yeah. Okay, thank you very much. So all our colleagues have answered the question. And I think I have to add one more thing is about strengthening the community extension for students and not only specializing in this field, but also in the forestry curriculum in general, so that the students in the future can develop a sustainable empathy driven and legal solutions for conservation and restoration in the next three to five years. Since all of these, all of the innovative technologies, all of the technicalities are all in line and included in the 2030 sustainable development agenda. So we have until eight years to maximize everything. And it's important that we can address forest related problems and issues by strengthening the immersion to students in the whole of the forestry academy. Thank you very much. Okay, thank you. And you have a very long next plan. Okay, and then last, Thoni? Yep, your turn. Do you have some presentation? No, just thank you for giving me this opportunity to talk. So the recent technological breakthroughs in remote sensing have allowed us to have all of qualitative need to better understand the forest ecosystem and management and from collecting basic improved forest data to combating illegal logging or associated trade, innovative technologies plays a critical role in sustainable management of forest. And answering this question, how do we better integrate the innovative technology in forestry sector? Then I'll give two examples. So first, youth integrating youths are indispensable, but underutilized forest in tackling global inequality and poverty. But if we integrate or if we facilitate the engagement of youth in innovative technologies, we'll better improve the forest condition. So and the and the live example I want to show you that it's obvious that young generation, we use digital platforms and smarts more often, but the older generation may lack interest or skills to do so. So maybe participation of youth is more important. And then the other example is the community forest people, because the forest, those communities those communities will live adjacent to the forest should be given more priority for this. So, so as I presented earlier, we mobilized 68 community forestry groups from seven remote districts of Western Nepal. It was very hard for our team, the Red Panda Native team to train them, but with a lot of hard work and series of training, we were finally able to do so. We were finally able to train them well to teach that the mobile application. So we should integrate those community people who live adjacent to the forest and as well as the youths. Thank you. Thank you very much now. So we catch up the time schedule and students and young professionals, you are our future and I wish you to actively involved in this road map making. And then now we have two poles with you. So maybe also you are leaving internet pole. Yes, I'm going to put on the poles. Give me a second. I'm going to share my screen. And the first question is, do you think that innovative technology well covered in forestry curricula? Let's visit this queue code and try to your answer. To access Slido, it's the same as before. So same website, same code, you can also scan the QR code. In the session one, we have some presentation from those who are answered. No, but this time maybe I ask you someone who make. Yes. If you have any opinion, then please read your hand. Yes, we can start showing the results as we're getting some questions. Okay. Oh, yeah. Seven, seven, two, three. Who answered? Yes, maybe one or two. Okay. Okay. So we have a clear result here. Yep. Now finished. Anyone want to give your opinion after this result? Yes, please. Please introduce yourself and then give your opinion. Yep. Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Jessica. I'm from Zimbabwe. Yes. Well, I'd like to give my opinion. As I was listening to this conversation, I was just hearing about technology which include mobile application, drones, but I also believe that technology is not just about mobile application. We do have other technology which we invented long before, such as agroforestry. It's a method of technology. We need to train our youth on how to utilize our forest. Information dissemination is very important. We can, as you see that poverty is happening and there is now food insecurity and people are now clearing our forest to farm. So how about if we teach our youth on how to teach their communities on to sustainable forest utilization where they can utilize the forest and planting at the same time whilst conserving the forest using climate smart agriculture practices. I think technology is just not about softwares application. It's about what innovation we can do to preserve our forest. We can have this initiative where we can, in my country, we have what we call tree planting day where everyone is supposed to plant a tree. So if we do that, we increase our forest number of our forests in our region. So I believe we should impact our youth on how to use our forest sustainably, especially integrating agriculture and forest at the same time without deforestation. I think that's my opinion. Thank you very much. Very good opinion. One more opinion. Okay, please. Hi everyone. I'm Ranku Sangma from India. Okay. So when we talk of technologies, I think we should also not forget our ancient arts and crafts. We must also include them in the technologies and in the curriculum because a lot of youth nowadays don't know the simple art of pest management. I'll just say, for example, in my area, we always had this traditional practice of simply catching a crab, breaking it open and letting it rot in the sun. After that, we tie it to a pole and stake it on the paddy field. All the pests come to this crab and then after a few, say, half an hour, we simply burn all the pests. But these crafts, these ideas are not being taught to the youth and the youth today don't know anything about these. So I think we should also do something to preserve these ideas from our ancestors. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. One more. Okay. Yes, please. I think the opinion from the floor is very important. Okay. Yep. A very good afternoon to you all. I am Sunit Bharadwaj. I am from the Ministry of Environment, Forest and Climate Change, Government of India. I completely agree with what the representative from Zimbabwe and India has rightly said that technology, when we say it should not be regarding information dissemination only, it should be basically how we can improve the health of our forests, how we can improve our agriculture. So we need to focus on innovative technologies in these areas. Plus, one more thing which I would like to emphasize is environment and forest, they are basically our life. So we should have life, a short form for life for environment and forest. Like we need to have our lifestyle which suits environment, which we need to have save energy, we need to save water. So apart from innovative technologies improving the forest and environment, we should also focus on innovative technologies in improving our lifestyle so that we can coexist with environment also. That's all I would say. Thank you. Okay. Very good opinion. Okay. Very short. Please. Yeah. Yeah. I think all the technologies have been discussed, but I think when it comes to youth and technologies, I think one significant aspect is about financing technology. We all know that youth organizations or some youth groups are very informal in nature, so there's no formal engagement. So what we wish to governments to some large scale corporations if they have some civil, some CSR, corporate social responsibility or let's say the GEF, the GCF, the green funds. So we want to know if these some of these funds can go directly to the youth who are working their jobs or to incentivize their initiatives because it's very hard that if some youth organizations or youth clubs that organize, for example, a large replanting event or monitoring event, it's very, very hard if you don't have any fund. Let's be straight to the point. So we wish that governments can allocate like they receive millions and billions from different funding institutions when it comes to green funding. So we wish them to allocate some for the youth that it goes directly to the youth, not only to with the third party systems. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. And then also we will have some chance for final discussion. So please make your comment in the later. Yeah. And then you have the second floor. Sorry. I think there's one panelist online who would like to intervene. James, you have the floor. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. Real quick. I just like the point something out from the colleague from India and Korea that from the roadmap study, actually this concept of integrating the innovative technologies with indigenous knowledge of traditional practices, what pointed out, and that's identified in the roadmap study. So just kudos to both of you for mentioning similar topics. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. And then the second floor. No question is, what should be done to improve the integration of innovative technologies in philosophy curricula? You can make multiple choices. One, two, three, four, five. Yeah. First is to multiply the curricula. And second is the link with other academic sectors. The third one is increase links with the private sector. The fourth is to facilitate exchanges between philosophy teaching institutions. And then the last one is the link is investment in the philosophy teaching institute. As usual, the website is always the same. The code is always the same. So if you had loaded this on your mobile phone, it should still be there. We're giving them another few seconds. I can see the question. The answers are coming in. So I'm going to show the results now. And then you can keep on voting. In my opinion, all should be done. But we needed to make some priority, but I don't know. Okay. It seems that the answers have stabilized. So you have the first one is increase investments. The high number is the increase investment in philosophy teaching institute. Okay. Okay. As always, the problem is the money in front. Okay. And each one is the lowest. Multiply the curricula. Yeah. There's one lower. It's a professor's duty. So maybe from the student or young scientist, there could be a lowest. I don't know. Okay. Well, many stone. Okay. So now you know the result. And in my opinion, the innovative technology is already with us and all kinds of things like camera or this kind of internet connections or mobile or notebook, they already innovative technology. But the problem is that how to integrate, how to apply in our factory sectors. So maybe you can have some very good discussions after the session. So this is the end of the session two, then after that, maybe the moderator, you are organizing the final discussions and make a way forward. So thank you so much for joining the session two. Okay. Thank you very much. Vincent is back. I just wanted to ask also the organizers whether we finish on time or not, because we are running late, perhaps. No, we are on time. We have 15 more minutes. We're running late on our original program we wanted to have, but it's okay. We still kind of have the ambition to finish on time. So to wrap up this session, we have a distinguished panel. We don't have a panel to invite the speakers. So I don't know if you would like to come to here. Maybe that's more convenient. And we'll start with Dr. Eung Joong Cheung from Kanwon National University. Please. Okay. I'm back again. And then I was very happy. I'm very happy because I've been attending a lot of conferences, but do not see these young people attending the meetings and giving their opinions. And then you know, so I'm very happy. And I see our forestry, the future of the forestry is very bright because you are engaged, you are already engaging in the forestry. So I'm very happy about that. And then first of all, when I invited to be a chair of this session, and I see the title of this conference, and it is very interesting because you know, and then it is very pivotal because we are entered in full IR era in all country. And then, but especially the Asia Pacific regions, they have a young, good major population of the young people. But in case of Korea, we are very, we are mostly aged people in the forestry sector. So we have the same goal, integration of the innovative technology into the forestry, but we are very in different circumstances. So, but the goal is to introduce youth into the forestry. And for that goal, we are doing well, I guess, because we already teach many things to the student. And then all the young generations, they are familiar with using these innovative technologies. But today, I got a good answer from Jessica from Zimbabwe and the other person, the other people, because they pointed out that integration will be natural, I guess, because we are on that era. But we need to focus on the forestry itself. Because, you know, people are concerning the deforestation, because, and they want to save the earth, or preventing deforestation, but they do not concern the life of the local people in forestry. So, but, you know, the local people, they cannot sacrifice their life for the other people in the earth. So we are always focused on the forestry itself first. And then to make them boom, we need to integrate the innovative technologies. So I like their view, your view and your opinions for that. So today is very fruitful conference for me and for you all, because my students are here. And I hope they get, they take this message for home. So and I'm very happy to be with all of you guys here. Thank you. Thank you, Il-Ju, and now Dr. Professor Kang, please. Fabio, we would like to see your cat or perhaps you could put the room, the onsite room or the speaker showing up, especially for the online audience. In the main, do you hear, Fabio? Okay, wonderful. Okay, as I said, today's very nice discussion. And I have the same feeling as Professor Jung. And our future is very bright and I hope you are going very well. And today we just talk about some remote sensing or drones, but the innovative technology is not only these small things. At the beginning already we had some presentation. So there are many different types of technology, like digital technology, biological technology or produce and product technologies and some other innovation of finance or social. So I think we just have the first step on first steps. We are just beginning. And then also in my experience, for example, in Korea, the innovative technology in especially forestry sector is just beginning. It's just start. So but also this technique is quite going very slow. And this very large variation between the community or between the organizations. So but and also maybe this innovative technology could be referred to some robotics or some 3D printing, something else. So we are going to very long way to go. But by applying this innovative technologies to our forestry sector, I think we should aim to develop or develop forestry by realizing smart forestry. We either like to make some smart and managing safe forest resources and providing efficient forest service. And if you examine the possibility of this application of innovative technologies, and also this seems going very, very gradually and but it could be start in the disaster or some pest management. For example, in Korea, we are applying this kind of drones of high technology for protecting forest fires or insect management. So it could be applied for this kind of things. And for doing this, I think also we need to communicate each other and collaborate. And also we should make some practice and training. And also we have to give young scientists some incentive to direct our technologies. And also as discussed in session two, all techniques should be going little unexpected ways, some cost effective ways. So for some other developing countries, maybe this funding or cost could be a problem. So maybe trying to make efficient way and cost effective ways. Okay, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Professor Ken, and now to the floor, Susan Rihang from AFOCO. We have some final perspectives as well. Thank you very much and good morning everyone. Thank you so much for inviting me to this very much inspired inspirational session. Already two professors gave us a very good remarks for your presentations. I'd like to highlight one thing and I'd like to introduce our one program of AFOCO. Let me introduce myself first. I'm Susan from Asian Forest Corporation Organization. Shortly we can say AFOCO. We are serving 16 member countries in Asia and still we are welcoming more countries. So from our region, we receive the various innovative presentations and really, really appreciate it. Especially I'd like to highlight one thing that innovation is not just a tool. It should be a philosophy and our mindset how to move our future we need to pursue. So these kind of perspectives and ideas that was coming from our young fellows and foresters really, really inspired me to think over our further programs and educational training sessions serving for our region. Let me introduce AFOCO, especially my division. I'm from Capacity Development Division. We have Regional Educational and Training Center in Myanmar and every year we are having various types of trainings and also we are providing some educational programs to the young foresters. So please come and visit and hope to receive all of you. We also have an experimental forest in the center and the main reason we are developing this kind of forest is that we have a continuous voice from our member countries that we need somehow the long term research-based policy enhancement. We need somehow the governance enhancement but those parts will not be happened without the evidence-based solutions and ideas. So this is why you are here. You are studying and you are working for forestry sector and this kind of action-oriented science-based inclusive innovative approaches will help us to cooperate and communicate all together. I believe that this and also I'd like to I hear one thing that somehow the young foresters put a poll that you need some more financial support. So we also have a scholarship program. We are having the landmark program scholarship program so that we hope to receive all of you and getting experience in our forest working for the Asian region. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Susan and Foucault is also a young but very dynamic organization in the landscape in the region. So very important mandate and role to play ahead on these issues. And today we are delighted to have the presence with us of the director general of the Department of Forest Policy and Coordination of the Government of Mongolia and Chair of the Asia Pacific Forestry Commission, Oyunsana Bienba-Sweden. So welcome you to the floor for your remarks. Thank you dear colleagues, friends. It's great to see you all in person also those who are participating in online. Let me share a few personal thoughts at the end of this very rich and interesting event. First we can proud of you our youth. The high quality of their work as well as their innovative perspective paved the way for sustainable future in the forest sector in our region and gives us hope to despite the multiple challenges we face these days. Second the countries could take advantage of this youth publication to further encourage and strengthen the involvement of youth sustainable forest management in the region. We could encourage excellency and use FAO and Asia Pacific Forestry networks to facilitate exchange and showcase at the original level. Selected youth contributions and initiatives with the highest potential impact. To complement the work already have done further calls for youth contribution could be organized with the support of C4 and other partners focusing either on specific issues on specific innovative technologies or in the specific sub regions in our ecosystems. The publication presented today with us become the first step of serious aim at strengthening knowledge sharing exchange of experiencing and technology transfer and creating a strong community of students and young experts around innovation and sustainable forestry. Third the innovative technologies can be on this contribute to make the forest sector more attractive for youth facilitate citizen engagement in forest monitoring and sustainable forest management. They create new uses for wood products and new opportunities for forest dependent people in the communities but they can also revolutionize forest management and governance. Hence we need only to improve integration of innovative technologies in forestry education curricula as highlighted during this event but also to adapt our political and legal frameworks frameworks at the regional and national level to realize potential of innovative technologies for sustainable forest management. Improving drone regulation as noted Charo Camaran is one of examples the work to be done. The countries in the region can play a critical role in that regard to design innovative policies for sustainable forestry. As the current chair of the Asia Pacific Forestry Commission I stand ready to help. Personally I was 2004 a little bit shying and then as a student trying to be a member of the international forestry student association at that time and we have contacted and after that we created or established the forestry, Mongolian forestry student association that time it's about for 20 years ago and now they are very actively working in the nation. So there is no kind of the mechanism or the cooperative ways the young people could work together and especially in the room in this room and also online those who are really you know having experience or feeling in the forestry some are starting in the forestry some are really want or being together with the forestry sector and these are the generation and the future and thank you very much. Thank you very much Director General and for also giving us the image of what the trajectory your personal trajectory and thinking can lead to and at last but not least also Rao Mata online from the FAO Regional Office of Asia in the Pacific in Bangkok. Rao do you hear us? You need to unmute Rao. Okay can you hear me now? Okay please the floor is yours. No excellent thank you very much once again colleagues good morning good afternoon and good evening. I fully concur with all the panelists as well as chairs of various sessions and all we have had an excellent event today. We had many inspiring examples of technologies, interesting experiences and innovations and as one of the panel chair mentioned today is just showcasing of a few technologies related to satellite based forest monitoring or drone related technology and other interesting examples but there are a number of other innovations including those that could be applied or used by local communities and all that publication will be coming very soon. I request all of you to kindly go through and try to promote that as much as possible among your network networks and other channels. So as far as next steps are how do we move forward? It is important to enhance the adoption scaling up as has been identified or noted by almost every one of you. I saw the polls were very interesting and very inspiring to note and identify the kind of future actions needed. Two things particularly come up are very striking as far as I understood. One is funding. Definitely I mean many colleagues have noted or highlighted the importance of youth. There could be a special provision for youth that has been specifically noted whether it is GCF funding or Jeff funding or bilateral. On behalf of FEO we will make sure that that kind of provision is made when such funding is materialized. Second one is partnerships. Thanks a lot to our DG who has highlighted the role of various member countries in the region that could take up this initiative. So this partnership is very, very important in that context. Thanks to our colleagues, our existing partners C4, AFOCO and other important organizations that are key to help us promote including various universities and research organizations. That came up very prominently in today's discussion. The role of universities and technology, I mean research institutions, how best they can integrate, they can enhance, they can scale up the adaptation of these technologies including the need for revising curricula as and where necessary. So as far as FEO is concerned we are with you. We try to provide the kind of regional platform to promote this as we move forward. We engage with all the countries in the region after this on a kind of individual basis, country by country basis and in that context this roadmap is going to form an important tool or a methodology. It has given excellent ideas or action points on how to move forward. So we look forward to promoting roadmap and engaging with all of you on an individual basis as well as in the form of a regional platform or a regional partnership basis. Once again, thanks a lot to C4 colleagues, particularly all those people and mechanisms behind organizing this exciting event. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much, Rao. So I'll conclude briefly because we've gone over the time. But just first to thank really warmly all the speakers, the presenters, the moderators, the panelists and above all the audience including the students, your students, some of your students I think that was very lively. It certainly shows when we research organization and looking at new work we're probably not doing enough looking at the potential there is to work with you. In fact, speaking under the control of Rao, we in fact modified a lot of the way we envisaged these studies and these roadmap to even more include the use than it was originally foreseen. This is why we did an extra publication which in fact we presented today. And this is also why in the other roadmap that is on primary forest conservation that is also one big motivation for the young people to engage in forestry to preserve the ecosystems. We really wanted not to use an old team of GIS experts etc. But in fact we took a little bit more time to start it but we built with my colleague Yves Le Monnier from C4. We worked with a young team of young scientists doing their masters etc. So there are four or five of them that were involved in doing all the maps, the GIS and so on. That was really also in the doing an important part of the exercise. So we really should do more of that. We're not doing enough and I think it brings lessons for for all of our institutions in the future. I think we need also to connect and to anticipate the curricula and so that all these architecture is not just following the demand but more anticipating, more reactive and perhaps putting the use more in the driving seat of what they really need to have the the keys for working in the future. I think that's important when we look at the role of universities. This is something that in the FTA program looking forward we're going to launch a new partnership tonight. There's been 10 years of a collaborative research program in FTA and there will be a new phase, a new partnership. AFOCO is joining this initiative. We're going to look at how we work more closely with universities or we connect international organization or NJ with universities and so on with universities and with the use in a way in the broader sense students but also a younger population. I think what it shows, what this meeting shows is that if we continue doing like perhaps in some of the other meetings we're going to go in one way. If we try to find new ways to involve maybe we're in the right path, the right direction and we should just do more of this in the future. I really thank everybody and especially all the youth involved for all their time and I would need to say it also the voluntary work in this exercise. Thank you so much.