 We're here at the World Telecommunication Development Conference in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates and I've got the great pleasure of being with Mirumeta Ben Yamina who is Minister of Communications Transport and Tourism Development for Kiribati. Minister, thank you very much indeed for being with us today. Thank you. I'd like to start off by talking about Kiribati and the climate change issues that are affecting you. All right. As you all know, the islands of Kiribati are very low-lying eagles and I think the first lot to encounter any impact of climate change, especially sea level rise and coastal erosion. That's the fact. And what impact is this going to have on telecoms and ICTs? I think we cannot escape from the fact that we badly need ICT infrastructure development because we are at the mercy of this impact of climate change. One example would be communicating with our people throughout, especially from island to island. And we should be able to tell them early warnings of what's going on so that people are at least prepared to make the decisions to try and protect themselves from the harsh conditions of climate change. And how serious and what time scale are we looking at in terms of this threat? Well, according to the international body of which is disseminating information on climate change throughout the world, it is taking place. And there are evidence all over the place that people are gradually being affected in terms of their own survival and livestock and their homes. And so I think we cannot say that it may take two or three weeks. No, it will happen. And the fact is it will happen over 50, 60 years. There are already evidence of that in Kiribati. And what does it mean to be living under this kind of a threat? It means we have to be prepared, resilient. We have to adapt ourselves to whatever impact that are forthcoming. And we are grateful of the aid that we have received through bilateral and other UN agencies that are providing us with the options of adapt and be able to face what consequences are coming. And how has RTU been helping Kiribati to address these issues? RTU has helped Kiribati in many ways. I must say, first of all, in the way how we should develop our ICT infrastructure. And I guess we have also received assistance in terms of regulation and policy regarding ICT development. We would want to see more of these forthcoming and especially to help us prepare ourselves and to try and establish all the necessary infrastructures on the out-towards. If that's the case, ITU to prepare us, we will be grateful. But we will continue to become a full ITU member as long as we can. And we are thankful that they have also provided us with funding telecentres on some of the out-towards, which is great. So is there a situation that you envisage where you would have to carry on business from elsewhere, so perhaps even e-government? That might take place eventually. But again, this will be years and years to come. But we need the ITU support in this whatever approach that we should be given so that we are prepared. And this may take place in the next two or three generations to come. I do hope the ITU now is the same ITU in the next two or three generations. You know what I mean? Giving the same support and perhaps help us in any other way. What do you hope to take away from this conference? It's every four years. What do you hope will be some of the outcomes? I haven't really looked at it because this is our first time to attend. But it is important that we are not left out of the program or whatever the development progress is going on. So it is equally important for us to keep on attending. And what is more important is the ITU to see our needs, the needs of the small island states. And this morning I was told that there was a special session for that in terms of broadband, the benefits of broadband for sustainable development addressing the needs of small island states. And I think we are going in the right direction, the right approach. So I would want to see more of the involvement of ITU addressing the needs of small island development states, in particular the infrastructure challenges, remoteness in terms of accessing these and so forth. So I think whatever is discussed here is important to us all, not only to developed countries, but we need to be part of the partnership that we always talk about. Minister, thank you very much indeed for being with us today. Thank you for the interview. Thank you. And thank you for watching.