 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump mind pump with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this episode of mind pump for the first 30 minutes Justin Adam and myself have some we talk crazy. We have a good time We first we talk about what happens when machines take over our job. Oh, we're all fucked Technic champs Adam scared we talk about the fear of change and the need to adapt the change in the auto and movie industries And then we mentioned our more are one of our sponsors thrive market So thrive market is a place that you can go online You can get access to organic non-gmo foods for the same prices as their conventional counterparts Literally, I'm not exaggerating the prices are that low Now the way they can do this is by eliminating a lot of the middlemen and there's a membership fee However, if you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash Mind pump you're gonna get one month of a free membership plus boo. 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You're obviously not not called jazzer size owner of maps anabolic phase three The next question was somebody's asking us what kind of leg workouts they can do because they have bad knees The knees hurt when they do lunges and squats and they can't kneel for very long Justin can do that for a long time They'd actually lost a lot of weight as well So we talk we talk a little bit about Possible imbalances there how to correct them and what methods they should take so that they can do squats and lunges and finally How would we incorporate plyometrics as a prescription? For clients find out with caution. Also, I'd like to talk to you guys about our sexy athlete bundle Now we created the sexy athlete bundle because we have two very popular programs. We want people to be sexy, right? That's right, and we want them to move better, too. Yeah, we have two very popular programs There's math performance, which is really designed for the athlete at heart. 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That's so much better because then I mean owning one of those things is fucking ridiculous Can you guys just see like behold the decentralized power of the internet? Oh, yeah, hold beholden I feel like you're Moses behold The power of the internet it's decentralizing everything there's yeah, yeah, it's interesting to see what's gonna happen I you know, I don't know Where we're gonna be in 10 15 year old and where at what point does the government say, uh-huh? They can't it's too late. Yeah, you think so you can't you can't how do you get the toothpaste back in the tube when you Fucking smooth as they throw like a EMP bomb up in the fucking Dang The gatekeepers man human gloom just said just just just to press back to the stone age. Yeah, so man They can they control all fake news bro real quick. They could change the game Yeah, they could do well if anyone even news has been anyone can put the toothpaste back in the tube It's the government if there's anybody that has the you know what I think resources to do that You know what I think sometimes because here's what I think because you know that a lot of the money that goes into research And science is through the government, right? That's why they just go and because they it's in their best interest to discover new things and whatever especially for the military but you ever wonder how like what if social media platforms and all these devices and stuff that we use and the new iphone with facial recognition What if really it was just gathering information? It was the government partnering with these businesses or whatever I think it is and they're like, hey, how do we get dude these businesses are the government? Whoa Well, this is how this is how I believe that Apple amazon google They all have why they all are allowed to grow to what they're because in a sense in a sense They're starting to monopolize areas. I mean you got amazon, you know amazon right now It's about to take out fucking ups and fedex and all those real soon here Like you're about to see them take over all that shipping shit and the way of course Jeff basos presented it was like, oh, we're just assisting Yeah, the the dsl. What are the what's the regulations on monopoly anymore? You know what I mean with these tech companies like absorbing like all these different like monopoly So here's here. This is a big busy a huge misconception about markets monopolies are Don't really exist in open free markets. They tend to exist When there are government regulations and controls that limit entry into the market So when people say, you know monopolies this that and the other You can clearly see that there was intrusion into the market and regulations and walls being put up to protect Uh, you know businesses through the of course the unholy alliance between business and and government And that is what causes monopolies otherwise. What you have is this Let's say you have a company like I don't know like let's say a company owned Well, wasn't like PG and E one of them or like like one of the power companies had to get split up because they were Getting into too many very regulated extremely regulated market. It is not an open market. It's yeah, not at all So it would be like if a company owned I don't know all the food production I guess and if they weren't serving the consumers needs best Yeah, then then you would have competitors would come in and you know and create Amazon google and apple are not going after those markets. They're going after more like Think about it like what the way they'll take over the shipping market is they'll go in and they'll just do it Better for cheaper. Yeah, which is which which is great for us, right? There's nothing wrong with that Yeah, I'm not complaining about I'm just wondering like when the government will want to step in and be like, ah Well, of course how fast should change of course, of course We don't because we don't have family members or ourselves that work for You know UPS and they've been working there for 20 years or lives and they have a retirement All set up and like that those people are freaking freaking out and are absolutely hate. It's still it's still But it's of course on the individual basis You're gonna find some people like hurt by this but on a whole it's much better It's like it's like when cars got invented all the wagon makers, you know went out of business Well, you know, it's terrible. Yes and no yes and no because we're at a different time now because I mean we AI's around the corner and companies like amazon are heavily vested in robotics and the the vision is to Build these things out and to eliminate people's jobs. So it's not like they might be they might grow a market And it potentially could we might be shipping more faster for cheaper, which in turn in the olden days Who's gonna buy the products? Huh if we're all broke who's gonna buy the product right now? This is this is a huge misconception in economics that We're gonna it's gonna decimate jobs. We're not gonna have any work like let's just think about that for a second Let's say we go into the future Where AI and machines do all of our labor for us You know what else there's another name for that's called utopia Which would be great. Fuck if all the robots did all the work for us and people like well Well, no one's gonna have jobs So who's gonna afford to buy the products that the robots make it doesn't it doesn't make any sense And that's not how it works what's happened as and this was the prediction Of you know, Karl Marx right of Marxism that capitalism would result in or markets would result in No more jobs because it's going to be automated and the reality is the opposite There's far more wealth farm because efficiency continues to increase and that's what creates wealth Well, I can see that it may now it makes leaves opportunity for those same people that would have those jobs to do something else That's out there that to grow a whole new market Exactly or or again if we do all of a sudden create this future where where machines do all of our work for us Well, fuck now. It's literally creative. Yeah, you know, it's literally that would literally be a utopia All entertainment and like creativity based that'd be amazing. It'd be it'd be wonderful So I this fear it's it's a classic and it's a knee-jerk reaction type of fear. It's like You know, like the taxi, you know drivers being afraid of uber or You know anytime competition comes in people freak out, especially when innovation comes in But so far Every single time we've done that Things have gotten better the industrial revolution Definitely killed a lot of farming jobs like like before the industrial revolution a good chunk of Americans were farmers A very good chunk of americans did farming when the industrial revolution came around a lot of those jobs were lost But will we left with a bunch of unemployed farmers? No, we were we actually created more Wealth and opportunity for a lot more people today You know something like one percent of americans are farmers and yet they produce Like how many more times, you know tons of food the only challenge that I have with that is that, you know And you're right if we can go back in history and we can talk about all those times is We are now supplementing the population with AI though. That's different. It's What you're saying makes total sense when it's people versus people and new markets open up And so now new jobs open for those people and so industrial revolution puts out a bunch of farmers But now they have all these new tech type jobs that they didn't have 30 years before Where now we're evolving to where Those those same jobs may potentially be taken over by not humans So there machines have been taking humans jobs for a long time. Yes, but not to the rate where we're at now It's always going to be I mean think about it this way think of all the jobs that existed Before the industrial revolution think of all the jobs that people had right all the you know, like you had to dig holes You had to use like shovels and pickaxes if you had plow fields Plow fields like all those jobs don't exist anymore new jobs were created new opportunities Powered machine all those things were done by By a machine like look at how cars are made, you know cars used to be made by people now You've got machines making cars does the automobile industry employ less people now? No, and it's created far more wealth As a result, maybe it's just we don't know what it looks like yet. That's it. Yeah, that's and it's the job That's it and it's scary and every time there's a lot of change People freak out because we don't know what that looks like So if someone tells me well, I'm if I'm a personal trainer and then someone says oh shit Here's this robot that can personal train people like I'm gonna freak out because I'm like, oh my god Like I'm a personal trainer my job's gonna be gone. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to reinvent yourself reinvent change and innovate But it's not gonna kind of reminds me of like how I know some trainers that see things in numbers Right and it's all binary like the way that um, you know, it's on paper You know you do x amount of sets and x amount of reps and it's like everything is very like You know structured based off of like performance and you know these type of metrics when You know, there's just so many other variables that are more powerful to go off of but like a machine isn't gonna like really Catch up to that. I don't think initially. Well, maybe they will I mean what we're currently doing right now is a major pivot in the fitness industry because we all I mean part of what motivated us when we all got in the room together was that we believe that this The fitness industry is completely changing right now and we're in the middle of it And we want to be on the front end of it We want to be actually a part of the movement and the change because The the day of just any old joe schmo Starting up his own little gym business and training clients out of there joe schmo. It's my friend. It's dying It's not it's it's he's gonna get eaten alive by the guy or the girl who has You know built authority for themselves through social social media or any other sort of medium type of platform For them to get their voice out there and reach people and they can provide almost as good of a service You know without even being there virtually with with the amount of the ability to give the amount of information that we can seamlessly You know over our phones or the internet like you're gonna see Our jobs and our and we could easily sit back make good money doing what we do what we've done our entire lives Or we can kind of predict and see where this is going and make sure we stay ahead of it You can be you can be afraid of change which I totally understand Especially if you get older if you've been doing things for a certain way for so long, especially with your business It can be scary to realize that uh-oh the phone book is no longer I've gotten all my leads through the phone book for the last you know 20 years But the phone book is now disappearing and it's all going to be through the internet Now I can freak out about that and be like my business is dead because the phone book is gone or I can realize There's another opportunity to reach far more people like the phone book however effective it was for example Does it even come close to the effectiveness of what we can do now in terms of reaching people not even close Social media is a great example in the sense that it costs nothing To to do stuff on social media or almost nothing whereas before To advertise in a newspaper even a small ad cost money And you and you would only guarantee that you know You'd reach so many people and out of that such a small percentage would read it And it was within a certain area or locale or whatever Now it's crazy now. You can specialize even more with your business You know like if I open in the past if you know you go 30 30 years ago Let's say I was into magnets. I love magnets the kind that go in refrigerators like that's my passion Would I ever be able to open up a brick-and-mortar store that sold refrigerator magnets and succeed? No never Could I could I have a website online that specialized in it? Totally, so it's it's it's scary because it's change and we don't like change But the reality is it's fucking awesome. What happens currency is going to change What industry what industries do you guys see changing the fastest? Which ones do you think are going to move the fastest and change? I think I think right now I think when it comes to the heavily protected Areas of the market and what I mean by protected is the ones that have laws That limit competition so Taxi drivers, yeah hotels Oh, I think you know all those things I think services everything one at a time right there I think I think the automobile industry is going to be completely flipped on its head in the next 10 to 15 years Completely flipped on its head. In fact, I even novelty. I yes I even believe that like the next generation coming up Will probably mock people that still drive themselves places No one's going to want to own very few people in the future will own a car It's not going to be you've seen that decline already. I mean with with kids It's like why why get your license anymore? Like what's the point? You know everywhere even though we're like it's freedom, you know, like that was like so revered when we were kids So I saw some estimates. I actually read a very very well thought out article on this with some experts and they figured that when Automated cars or self-driving cars become the norm that the average cost to travel with an with a self-driving car to work and whatever Would cost the average person between one to three thousand dollars a year Now if you do the math on how much your car costs you for gas Maybe car payments insurance The space that it takes to park it in your garage or whatever like you add that all up You're saving a shit ton of money By just having some fucking automated car pick you up and drive you somewhere And you're having an increase in productivity because now when I'm going to work first, we'll have a bigger place You don't have a garage you have to know that that google and apple and these companies that are working on these self-automated cars right now Know that Imagine okay, because and we know too like the the EFT model is like everybody is transferred over to that right? Is this Consistent money every single month You're going to see this a guarantee right where you're you're going sal is You know if whoever gets there first google or apple or whoever gets the car first It'll be like a membership thing either you pay a monthly fee that costs you 250 bucks a month Or you can pay the year up for three or five thousand dollars And you have this little pass that probably just you can go uber even you need a pass google car facial recognition Right, it's just like the minority report. They're already there like they it'll recognize your face It'll know how much currency you have through You know whatever payment system is established with that and then you just step in or it says no You know insufficient funds or something So I think about what the car is going to look like too like you're going to get into your car And it's no longer like focused around the driver You're going to step into a car and oh, I got to drive two hours to this place You go in and it's a fucking office. You know what I mean? You're going to step into an office and do your work or you're going to have a meeting in there while you're going somewhere Or you know, uh, we're going out to dinner. Let's get in the car and they serve drinks in there Like isn't it funny to see like total recall trying to do their rendition of it. They have some shitty robot like Oh, hello It's like not even close They have the science fiction idea. Sci-fi movies are always so great. They're always what we think the future's gonna look like If you look at futuristic movies from like the 60s, it's like these chrome fucking meat Thank you. Will Robinson you're gonna go to future land in disneyland. They're gonna look just like us dude That's what's gonna be. Yeah, it's gonna be creepy. I look like another human for sure So I think automobile is actually gonna take a little bit longer what I see happen Yeah, because there's a lot of hoops to jump through. Yes, what I think will happen before automobile is I think we're gonna see Uh, the movie industry and oh, yeah, it's already happening that like, I mean, yeah I was blown away by seeing uh, youtube tv partnered up with the world series. You see now. I've seen full-length Uh trailers that would like be for a movie theater is actually full-length trailers on commercials now for netflix Just just look at the kids. Okay. I have two young kids the other day I went to the mall with my daughter because I promised or I'd take her out We'd have a father daughter day or whatever. So we're walking around and she wants god I wish I remember remember the name of the store clairs. We have to go to clairs. I didn't even fucking know what the store is Anyway, there's yeah, it's a store for all the jewelry and yeah, I don't know. How'd you know that I have sisters, bro So so she's like we gotta go to dazzles his toes So we go to clairs and because she wants I she has my old I think I got my first ear piercing there. Did you really? So she has my old iPhone She didn't have it set up to service but just so she can play games on and stuff, right? So she's like I want to get a new phone case, but we got to go to clairs So we go there and I look at her phone and I hit the home button And there's a picture of like a little girl on there that I've never seen before I'm like, who's this and she's like, oh, she's my favorite youtube star I'm like, what like what's her name? And I can't remember her name. She's like it's so-and-so I'm like, that's crazy. We go to clairs. I swear to god We walk into clairs and there's a fucking picture of the same girl with a whole aisle dedicated to products That are made or produced or whatever by this fucking youtube star merchandise around a youtube You could ask my kids celebrities on hollywood celebrities They wouldn't even know them, but they tell you their favorite youtube stars and I'm already seeing them now in stores So I just I was just watching I was on apple tv I'm clicking through and my the new movies that just popped up to purchase Um, I can't think of the name of the movie right now I just came out but I clicked on it to watch the preview and sure as shit One of the main stars of the show is that kid logan, whatever who is a fucking youtube guy who has like, you know 10 million youtube subscribers and he's like 20 years old and he's now starring in his own movie So they've now transitioned him from a youtube star now into acting So you're gonna. Yeah, no 100 percent. It's that it's fucking. It's crazy and I mean beaver got started like that Right like he got found in youtube. Yeah, but I think it's gonna be even more so like I don't think You like these record labels and all this stuff. It's gonna they're gonna. Yeah, they're gonna have to totally Well, it'll decentralize all of it. Like you said 100 i don't think we're gonna see superstars Like we used to in the sense where you have no, why would you ever think about this? Why would you ever pay? Tom cruise or some, you know, old big actor or actress 20 million 20 million dollars to rep your brand when I could get Five kids that are more connected to the mic my concoction Yeah, exactly they're gonna start really paying attention to how that converts and it converts way better with you know The constant communication. Well, so we talked about this the other day. So I watch I still Have a subscription to like satellite dish or whatever. So I'll watch some stuff I I recorded uh American dish or whatever Do they even use dishes anymore? Is there even a dish now working? Is there still a dish? Is there actually a dish still I could never do it because I got redwood trees So anyway, I I watched American Horror Story. So I recorded and I watched it And um, we were watching it and I got up to get some tea because I was making some tea And so I wasn't where the remote control is to fast forward past the commercials So the commercials come on and I'm like, oh fuck like I haven't seen commercials on tv for a long time And then I realized like the one place where I'm for where I'm forced to watch a commercial is on youtube The tea when you watch regular tv nobody watches commercials on there anymore because you record it and you fast forward Which right away? That's a big problem Because if if you can't if you're ad if you're an advertiser If you have a product and you know on tv nobody gonna watch your shit They're all going to go to youtube because youtube controls. Well, you what's happening right now is what we did Which I remember turning dug onto a long time ago I saw it on spike first and I know we're the first ones. I ever saw dude on youtube But now you're seeing big networks do that Where so after at the world series it was like this So you'll be watching the game and then also the the game shrinks to a smaller screen And then the bud light commercial comes on but I can still watch the game But the commercials running at the same time. Yeah, so that's how they're getting they're getting past that right? So that of course that's they I saw a huge I can't remember where I read this I read some article And I want to say it's like, you know at you know ad sales and and stuff is down like 50 percent from television Or whatever since the introduction of tivo and the you know dvr or whatever It's it's great. I think hotels and restaurants are going to have to change quite a bit too hotels in particular because People now you travel somewhere. It's getting easier and easier and more acceptable to just air bmb or Vrbo where you know, I want to stay in new york city I'd rather stay in a house. It's you know, the price is better It's in a great location. It's more personal or whatever same thing for restaurants You know, they have these apps now where you can go to a city and rather than finding different restaurants to go You could go to someone's house. They'll cook for you with other people I also saw it with the hotels. They've actually pivoted and started offering like our Uh by the hour to stay which they never did because it's like that's all the hookers. Yeah And now they're allowing it's interesting. Well, it's I I really enjoy watching this because it's all Uh typically better for the consumer You know our sponsor thrive market is a fantastic example of this They are they took a problem Which was you know, organic foods are expensive Um more expensive than conventional foods They figured out a model that made it so that they could eliminate a lot of the middlemen and deliver You know these foods because sometimes I go on thrive market I'll look at something because I always shop organic, right? Yeah I look at the prices and I really pay attention now And I'm like geez like this is a big difference the price is a big difference They've really figured figured that whole thing out and then on top of that because they want to be They they know the consumers more, you know conscious about things like the environment about helping people Now it's becoming their best interest to like here's we get free memberships to lower income people You know, we're we make sure everything's fair trade certified and all these other stuff It's it's pretty it's pretty cool stuff to walk. I wonder how long we'll see until we see like a major competitor to them That's what I don't know that'll be interesting. Well, what's interesting is Now it it seems like like the full transparency like they're already preparing themselves for the full transparency company, right? because they're already thinking their way through like a lot of problems in the world more than just Uh problems in their business and so you start to see like maybe that that could catch on with more of these Businesses that get bigger and bigger where they're actually thinking more about how is this gonna hurt? Uh, you know our company by not paying attention to you know the way that we waste our products and all these kinds of things Like because people people be able to research and see all the behind-the-scenes stuff now It's a factor now. It's a factor that you do now when you buy something People want to know that they're buying something that You know doesn't go against their values And before you kind of didn't really know how to do that or at least wasn't important because it wasn't as much transparency But now There's all these organizations that Kind of monitor that and you can look at something and say, okay. This is fair trade certified or this is the non-gmo project or whatever It's models like that like google like amazon star like all the star rating and stuff like that That so this that book that i'm almost done reading right now that i absolutely love Um is dives into that, you know the old days of Building a brand and building a name for yourself. Doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, it's it's completely Yeah, it's all about the ratings like if you likes or stars If you rank on google and you rank on amazon, it don't give a fuck about your branding in your local That shit doesn't out the window the stuff that we that we used to that makes a lot of sense though But isn't that great? Well, this was the hard thing that I know it was really tough for for uh Taylor to hear this because you know we we bring him on board to to help with the branding of mind pump and cleaning things up and You know telling the guy who has a lot of passion for branding and doing stuff like that going like bro you better evolve because This shit's changing and it's changing really fast and if you people that are so hung up On trying to create this brand for yourself It's like no man if you're if you're ranking great on amazon You're getting a five star reviews if you are at the top of google's list and stuff like that It don't fucking matter what you look like if people are saying your shit works It's like you have to play nice with all these platforms, you know, and really like study in what their Uh, you know parameters are and and what you need to do to to maintain that well, so the next level of that is because You still have people trying to hack that and try to fuck with each other company try to compete on amazon Mike matthews talked talked about this and they're doing a good job amazon is doing a good job of trying to You know figure out when the you know the the ratings may be fake and stuff like that new algorithms out there Well, here's what I think is going to happen, especially because of facebook facebook has It obviously has more users than anything on earth, right than any other company on earth It's like, I don't know how many billions or whatever and it knows all your friends and who you're connected to Imagine this you go to buy a product. It shows you all the ratings that people you know Gave it so now you don't just see random ratings. Oh, absolutely You see oh my buddy john gave it four stars and adam gave a five stars Justin gave it, you know two stars and justin wrote it like I trust These people rather than these random reviews. That's what makes our facebook even more crazy Yeah, when you talk about who who has got the most analytics and the most detail of people facebook trumps them all I know so amazon has almost dangerous. Yeah amazon is one of the scariest because they flipped the funnel upside down And on top of that they have the cloud space Google owns the searching for everything with that. So that's what makes them so dangerous Facebook has the most information on the most people in the world. That's what makes them so fucking dangerous I mean that apple is like what apple is doing is innovative and you talk about a brand like That company is not really innovative anymore. Well, I mean, it's it's a luxury brand, you know saying it's it's now It's innovative in different ways. Yeah in different ways. It's it's the it's the louis vatan of it's an accessory of tech Let's be honest apples is an iphone is as much of as an accessory as it is a phone Oh, it's well the phone is their only product anymore that that is bringing them revenue. So I really yeah Oh, yeah, they don't make money on their laptop. No, it's all all around the iphone like that's that's 100% Well, and they just keep bringing it up too I mean it's getting more and more expensive before it's and people will still buy it because it stands for something If you haven't if you have interesting to see how you know what happens with their their cars Well, they're really putting a lot of effort into that It'll be it will be interesting because I I foresee what I foresee with it because they've branded themselves as a luxury brand It doesn't matter if google hits the market first or they hit the market first of car It doesn't matter because apple will have a better one. Yeah, that's the way I look at I see I see you're gonna have two options You'll have the google car coming around or you'll have the apple car coming around but i'll pay I'm an apple guy. So I and I'm luxury guy Damn, did you guys ever think did you guys ever think when you were kids that Staple car brands like ford and chevy and toyota Oh would never would would would be challenged by randomly like just new yeah You know how hard it is to enter the car market back in the day You know how many people tried and failed and you had the staple manufacturers because nobody trusted other brands And I guarantee you right now if apple came out with a car right now a shit ton of people will buy it Tesla's already proven that that they could come in They'll make ford turn into like palm pilot. You know, I mean Oh There will be like this bell curve with it right it will there will take some time for Because you will have a lot of people that that will push back and well, you know the old cars and you know I'll be the first to admit like I like my cars and I wouldn't I don't want to be driving around a self car I want to drive my own car like but I I know that I'll conform eventually I know I will I can't wait till I can't I don't need to drive Once they started to make them look a little bit better right all we had was like the Prius forever that fucking ugly ass piece of shit Well, that's why I that's why I think like I think apple will push the boundaries on the luxury side of that I think google will be the more efficient cheaper version and at the end I think apple won't give a fuck They'll just be like you'll drive an apple car because you're an apple person. You're different That's their whole motto. That is that's their mantra be different, you know, and that's the whole reason why people still pay Five six hundred dollars more inflated on a phone that oh today I mean this perfect example the the 10 dropped right and I'm in the store and it's like these people are just shelling out They don't even have them in stock yet. They're shelling out. What is it like 1200 dollars or something for for a phone? Crazy a phone that will be what a phone that will be obsolete in a year. Yeah a year or two Yeah, you have to but they're still like I mean they're they're like starving for this There's a lot of people that are just like super excited Well where they're more brilliant they get guys like me, right? So now they do this like so I just I have the six plus and I just went in there the other day because I'm gonna get the x And I asked him I said am I done paying this off and they're like no But what you can do is in november is because you haven't paid it off You can return this phone back and then I'll just keep going on your payments So I basically leased this phone from them and I could and because I will do it that way I what I should do if I'm a conservative with money is continue paying this till I own it So you own it and now you can just trade off right because I want the newest one I'm gonna give this phone that I've been leasing for the last two years Yeah, and they and now they get a phone That's in perfect condition that they could turn around to and resell if they won't I mean or just use the parts you better believe I'm not the only one that's doing that Because it's just it makes sense. It's like I I have like I think 10 10 months left till this is paid off and it's like fuck I don't want to wait 10 more months because by that time the next one's coming out You know, I've been reading about the post phone revolution Which some people are speculating is going to happen within the next like 10 years where what's going to come after The cell phone. Oh, the belief is that all hardware will be gone. There won't be all cloud Yeah, everything will be cloud based and instantaneous. We won't have so all hardware will be eventually But here's the thing though the companies that will do that are the ones we're talking about right now So I feel like apple will be ahead of that. So maybe you never know, you know, here's the thing about tech That's really interesting is It uh because it's such an open market and it's so competitive shit flips so fucking quickly Like it wasn't that long ago that You know like there's certain companies that were like they're going to dominate next thing, you know, they're gone And the next one comes in amazon has flipped the freaking search funnel on its head Nobody would have anticipated that five years ago Yeah, but you got to understand and then you can argue that right and this the book the four that gets Into this too is like, you know, who will there be a fifth one or is it more likely that someone will come in and Over and over dominate one of the original four Here's here's what you need to be careful for that was so innovative and what they all of them have done Like the like that would be a monstrous Overthrow somebody could do that. I just don't see it because I know they're in a position right now that like look What they do already like you see what money and muscle what's app instagram youtube They all they all those give those big the big four when they see one of those companies Yeah, they buy them. Oh, they throw they throw a fucking two billion or whatever dollars So could you imagine then if you have come all these major companies at some point google amazon Whatever all come together and then consult like buy all become one And control everything that won't happen because they have different cultures They have different cultures. They have different philosophies. They'll keep there's no need There's enough people in the world to keep them all separate. They all dominate. They'll all be many countries Yeah, it'll be the will be like for maybe the because apple and google they're all reaching worldwide So there's plenty of space to dominate the the world. Yeah, it's gonna be that way. It'll be interesting. 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It's all these different Uh undergarments sweet sweat undergarments that women wear to to lift their butts up to push the boobs up to suck your fat in on your waist like It's a it's a gimmick Here's you you are not uh reducing body fat by doing this If anything the ones that are extremely tight like your waist trainers and we talked about this before just recently is that You act your fee muscles. I mean if you if the stuff that's really tight if it's super tight And it's wrapping around muscles. Okay, and it's working like a cast It's going to atrophy muscles because if it's working like a cast The muscles that are responsible to help support or move the joint that's closest to it No longer have to work and so then they basically atrophy go to sleep atrophy So I so I googled cutting weight clothing and I what came up was well what came up was this cutting weights, uh like neoprene Weight loss sauna suits That came up too where you put on remember these these it's so funny Well look up miracle wear if you look up miracle You'll see you'll see what what it is So miracle wear is a brand that carries like all of this stuff It's funny because and they just they're just in fitness you you tend to get yeah, I see that so in fitness You get this like rehashed Technology like yeah, this shit's been around forever It's been around forever the what I just said the sauna suit where you wear around you and then you get You sweat out. Yeah, you know, I keep waiting for the one where it's like a belt that just shakes the shit out of you Like the like the old video My grandma owned one of those no way Yes, she I'm so angry too that I didn't realize the importance of it Or how cool it was until I she was gone and I was much older Because that's an artifact. That's like a real that used to be in gyms Yeah Well back in the day back for the people who don't realize who don't know and I don't even know what they were called But back in the day in these gyms and like the 50s and 60s It was like a weight loss tool and what you did is you it was a machine with this belt That was attached to it and you put around your waist and then it shook the fuck out of you literally just shook your belly And that with the theory was that it shook the belly and then you lost weight somehow I don't know how they got that I don't know how they got that that meant that connection there I just remember that and then the old video of that like fat guy with the goggles and like the cannon ball It's right the stomach is like So what makes me curious about this stuff and why I even picked the question because it fascinates me Is this has been around forever? There's nothing revolutionary about spanks or these any of these outfits that Basically tuck fat away and perk up the areas that you want to perk up that's been around forever Nobody likes false advertising. They market it in all these different ways now what I'm curious about because I feel like Never have I seen so many 20 year old 30 year old people You know 40 year old people investing this this was common to see your grandmother You know you walk in you see your grandmother. She's got this full bodysuit on she gets out It gets undressed and grandma's not naked. She's in a full bodysuit that she's you know that's holding everything together It's got her boobs up. It's got her butt like it's a full bodysuit right to help her out I mean gravity. So yeah, right. So it's actually a very common thing. It's been very common and popular It's been around for forever. It's fall. I mean it goes all the way back to corset days, right? So this goes way back. Yeah, it doesn't make you lose fat any faster It'll change recruitment patterns, which is not a good thing It'll make you look temporarily leaner while you have it on because you cover you didn't you put your clothes over it And it's like wow, look how flat your stomach is but you've got this external piece of clothing but think about 15 years ago when you go Okay, we've been trainers for over 15 years. Remember when you first started nobody ever talked about this stuff Like yeah, it's this it's this new it's funny because you know what it makes me want to do Not that I would do this because again, I have too much integrity But if I didn't let's say I was like like doctor integrity I would go back in time and I would find old diet methods and tools of that got were popular in the 60s And it rehashed them and sell them and I bet you they'd sell like crazy Like just like the you ever seen the belts that people don't put on their abs the stim that make your you know Stim belts that make your abs contract. Oh, yeah, they've been recycling that shit for fucking 40 years every like five or 10 years It'll come out. I'll see an infomercial. I just got a message about you sitting on the couch Why not build your abs at the same time? I just got a message the other day from someone saying Hey, does this really work and I want to tell them like, you know the first time they came out was like 1960 something Right, and it's all bullshit, right? So I would love to go back in time and find some of this old stuff In fact, we should do it just for fun. Yeah, and see what see people will buy into it You know what you know what they used to you know what some of the original weight loss pills were I think I might have told you guys this a long time ago speed probably no He's worse worse than that some of the old so you could literally find I could probably google it and find right now ads That were in the back of magazines and stuff For weight loss pills that contained Tapeworm eggs. Oh my god What Well, you get a tapeworm. You get a tapeworm and lose weight and and it you they would sell you these pills You give yourself tapeworms and Yeah, you fucking lose weight. You got a fucking parasite, dude stealing all your nutrients That was your worm training going. How's your worm? I'm about to shit mine out. Actually I doubled up this week. Not even joking. Not even joking. I did not know that Yeah, we should find some of those ads. Yeah, let's not uh show the video Next question is from Aristotle Daphnis Is there any added benefit for training beyond the 10 to 15 rep range for muscle hypertrophy? If so, how do you determine which body part to train with higher reps? This is an interesting question Because there's a first of all once you get kind of beyond And it's not the rep so much that matters as much as what's going on inside your body that changes It's not like 10 is the magical number or 15 is this magical number and also you go 15 you were building muscle and boom you hit 17 reps. Now you're not, you know It doesn't work that way that you would still build muscle on 17 or 20 reps But as you start to push up the repetitions, it now becomes more uh aerobic You know now we're getting closer to aerobic and you're getting out of anaerobic and if ever ever done 20 or 30 reps Is something it's very hard, especially if you're doing a big muscle, right? If you're doing a chest a back or legs Your heart rate is going. I mean you're starting now you're you're getting closer to what you feel like when you jog Or power walk on an incline on a treadmill Then if you're actually lifting weights, that's really what the difference is it's not this magical number of oh when you lift 10 reps You're in hypertrophy. And so that's the best. It's I did 11 reps. I really did. Yeah, right exactly So no, I think so so here's the thing. There's a few different signals that tell your muscle to build one of which Is the signal that your muscles will get from fluid That pumps into them when you get the pump And the waist build-up that happens when you're doing higher reps Which is the the waist build-up is what gives you that burn So, you know, you're doing like a high rep set of curls or whatever and the muscle just burns like crazy And it's a totally different feeling than when you're doing something heavy for like five reps or four reps or six reps even That burn feeling that pain is coming from the build-up Of waist which is the byproduct of that movement that repetitive movement over and over again now that waist Sends a signal to your muscles to build now we take advantage of that with occlusion training In fact, that's what that's one of the main reasons that occlusion That's theorized that occlusion training works is by allowing That waist to build up much faster with lighter weight and so you get this muscle building signal So there's that there's also the pump that comes from higher reps. It's much easier to get A pump in a muscle if you train in the 20 rep You know rep range than if you train in the five rep range Just because of the amount of you know repetitions every time you squeeze a muscle what happens is you every time it contracts It squeezes out the fluid and blood every time you extend It tends to let more in and you repeat this over and over again You end up pumping blood into the muscle more Then comes out and that pump itself also sends A muscle building signal and I'll tell you this much right now If you think 20 rep or you know 15 or 20 reps doesn't build muscle And you're somebody that always trains in the six to eight rep range or 10 rep range make a huge difference Change it for two weeks because this signal it'll wear off eventually like all other signals do But for two weeks just train in the 15 to 20 rep range and watch what happens to your muscles You will see growth happens to me every single time I work my legs in this higher rep range because i'm so I love low reps so much super taxing once you make that shift I love I love low rep squats so much and so I tend to overdo the low rep squats But every once in a while switch to like 10 reps or you know 12 or 15 reps and my legs grow like the next day You know, I love that you brought this up because this is kind of like these little hacks that are hard for me to explain When people ask like specific questions. Okay, adam. I've got vegas in three weeks. What should I do? If I was in a situation where I'm at you know three weeks out from vegas and i'm trying to make my body change and adapt the most in that short A period of time Typically when the way we've structured maps or what we tell people is ideal is you know over a course of three months I'm going through all these phases Now if i'm looking for the greatest change in the shortest amount of time I'm gonna i'm gonna send a signal to my body that is as different than what i'm currently doing So like sal gave the analogy if I was doing singles doubles triples or five repetitions jumping all the way over to 20 reps I'm gonna see the greatest change in that short period of time dramatic Yeah, it's going to be a dramatic change and vice versa right if I've been doing that 15 20 reps And then I'm looking at a time frame. I'm like, oh, I only got two weeks I need to do something with my programming to continue to get the greatest change in my body I'm going to go the other end of the spectrum It's pretty much those two factors, you know, like if you want to like Focus just on like two things that will massively You know impact you if you if depending on what you tend to lean on more do the exact opposite Right, right. Yeah, and this is one of the reasons why low reps as a trainer Typically women respond way better than low reps 100 it's not because their bodies are genetically wired to respond better to low reps But it's because they are typically afraid of heavyweight and low reps So when I get a femal client, you know, when I ask them about their history Inevitably, it's oh, I did, you know 20 reps or 15 reps and all these different Bodyweight exercises because I didn't want to get built, you know bulky or you know, all the all the myths that surround exercise So then I'll have them do a whole power phase like, okay, all we're going to do is we're training between You know three to six or seven reps We're going to go heavy and their bodies just change and it's like all of a sudden I'm you know the miracle worker trainer I find that yeah, like you mentioned power just doing like explosive fast twitch movement without like loading it even Like just having people respond like they're they've never even used their muscles like that like in some cases You know, so it's just like whoa, what's my body doing now? The second part of the question is how do you determine which body parts are trained with higher reps? So i'm going to flip this question on its head right after I answer it real quick here Uh, any body part can be trained with higher reps But if I flip it and I say Which body parts do I train with low reps? You can definitely train every body part with low reps, but it's not as conducive to train heavy low reps for Single joint type exercises like it's not really conducive to do like singles and doubles for curls Like you would if you're gonna do a row or have you pull up But with when it comes to high reps you could train anything high reps. It's just Keep in mind you're gonna if you go over 15 reps with like a barbell squat or a deadlift Uh, go real light that's that's you're gonna be fucking that's a really good point I don't think I mean and and I will and very rare and that literally would be just I'm trying to shock something But you're right There's no way I'm doing a bicep or a tricep exercise and I'm doing three to five repetitions Like you'll just never see me doing skull crushers for three to five reps like now I'm not to say that you can't and not to say that if you always train 15 to 20 reps for that That might not be a bad idea to kind of throw that in there, but like you said it doesn't work very well No, it doesn't I mean you're you're gonna overcompensate and you're doing an isolation movement for a very small muscle And you're loading it really heavy It's really tough to not allow these other secondary muscles to kick in and yeah You're probably better off if you want to overload your biceps and triceps with heavy heavy weight Just do like a heavy pull up or a heavy, you know closed grip, uh, you know bench press or heavy dips You know body weight dips type of deal then then you'll then you'll do better off But yeah high reps anything you can train any body part with high reps Next question is from thomas lopez 83 who is asking for leg workouts for bad knees He has knee pain when doing lunges and squats and can't kneel for long So he's been doing a lot of machine work for legs His six three 230 pounds and he has lost 130 pounds over the last three years first off And go hit mobile congratulations on the 130 pound 130 pound weight loss That's life that's life changing life changing big dudes six foot three Definitely you're already sounds like you're in pretty close to probably where you want to be Weight-wise especially if you got some good lean mass on you so total congratulations to that now You know bad knees This is one of those ones where I really get in I used to get into clients when they would say stuff like this It's like do you really have bad knees or do you have bad mechanics? And because of that it stresses your knees And so you think you have bad knees because if you had bad knees you would know you have bad knees You probably have to do surgery and have to get new knees But most people that think they have bad knees It's because when they go to do a movement like a squat like a deadlift They instantly feel this stress in the front of their patella or their knee or what inside of their knee or outside Whatever they feel this pain. I wonder what machines he's using. He says machine work Like what is he doing? Probably leg extensions and leg press You know leg extension places a lot more stress No, I mean it absolutely does but what so if somebody who has bad mechanics and squatting and stuff like that They're gonna feel the stress for sure. Just in touch touch on it. I'm sorry. Just on it right away with that Well, yeah, I mean it's it screams a mobility issue like from the very beginning or stability So both those factors, um, you know, I would I would definitely look at if it's interrupting It's disrupting your ability to maintain motor control Um, so what what do your mechanics look like first like your knees just supposed to be able to hinge Right like everything else like your hips when it starts to rotate, you know externally internally We're gonna look at the hips, you know the ankles Um, you know, where are you placing all of your load and let's look at that and kind of work our way Up from there, but uh, well, I know right away being a six foot three because I'm six foot three And we're actually the exact same size and weight right now So I'm six three. I'm normally about 230. I'm walking around about 215 right now but so six three, uh, you have really long levers and Most people that are tall end up not squatting because of mechanical breakdown, right? And it's normally start right with their foot and ankle Because that was the biggest game changer for me was I did not have the knee travel I did not have the ability to take my knees over my toes So then when I went to get in a squatted position It was my ankles that were limiting how far my knee could travel And then that's what caused the stress in the knees Yes, because I didn't have the ankle mobility to allow this this play back and forth And this is something that you can absolutely get back Um, I have completely changed my squat in probably about a year I mean, I've been working at it for a good solid two years now But it took about a year before it really really made a major difference And you need to live in prime man This is maps prime for you this if you do not own that program You need to get that program. I guarantee it'll change your life prime and prime pro Well, it just reminds me of when uh, we had everybody here and dr. Brink kind of took Um, somebody threw like how to assess like your ankle mobility So you had a stick that you used and uh, you're in a kneeling position And the stick is right out in front to kind of give you a guideline of how far out your knee can travel over your toes And then if they can't go very far, you know, that's your your limitation and then we need to work on that Well, and you know, so The thing too is we don't know specifically what's going on here because yeah, we're speculating We're speculating because we don't know enough information about you. You're saying you can't kneel for very long. That may be like Pre patellar bursitis, uh, it may be chondromalacia So you may have some issues with your knees Especially considering, you know, the other information that we have here is that you were at one point you were, you know Yeah, did you have a 360 trauma or anything? Well, he's 360 pounds. So that might cause some problems But my advice is going to be the same regardless My advice is going to be regress Back to movements you could because a squat and a lunge or you heal with movement Yeah, exactly you you heal with movement not by just sitting there and squats and lunges Are both relatively advanced, uh, especially if you've lost lots of weight and you don't have good mechanics So scale it back So what I would do is someone like this if squats bother you is I would take A chair that's relatively high and I would practice Sitting down and standing up in the chair sitting down by sitting the hips way back So you can stick your butt back and then sit down real control Don't plop down on the chair and then come back up and practice that Another thing you can do is you can get a really low step So maybe one that you know comes up to your shin and practice single leg step ups on there Or maybe even one that's lower like regress yourself way back practice And work your way to be able to do squats and lunges. That's Sal being nice. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that with you I would this someone like this. I'm well. No Someone like this and and this is something something I've changed like I was not like the I think now didn't it 10 years ago I would do what exactly what Sal just said is I would find modifications and other Exercises that I would regress you that I know you could probably perform and do because it would I'm not putting your knee at risk and that's what we were taught as trainers when we first started now Me now I would say listen squatting and lunging is something we're going to get to And that's the end goal The goal is to be able to do a beautiful squat to be able to do a beautiful lunge And knowing that you're nowhere near there now And we're going to put the work in to get there and the movements and the exercises I'm having you do has nothing to do with leg exercises that are going to work your quads and work your hamstrings Yes, they'll get work But what I'm working on is all your mobility and the lack thereof So and I'm going to take maps prime and prime pro and I'm going to address every single joint in your body Especially in the lower half since we're addressing legs right now, and I'm going to work on your ankle mobility I'm going to work on your foot strength. I'm going to work on. Yeah pain is already an indication to regress on some level Like to address it, you know, and how are you going to? Yeah, don't avoid it. No, no, I think you don't try and work through I think you misunderstood me I'm not saying that's all you're ever going to do. No, I'm not even no I'm not even letting you do that I'm not even letting you do that and that's you know why because the way I look at it now Is I because you know what will happen to those people? They'll do those exercises and they won't do what really is going to help them They'll skip out on the things that matter the most And they'll do the things that they can do now. Oh, I just I just think it's all part. It's all I mean I think correcting those imbalances is very very important. I think regressing In combination with some of those corrections is important I think slowly progressing to the point where you can get them to do Squats and lunges. That's the goal. That's the ultimate goal But if you don't have prime and prime pro Besides hiring a trainer who knows what they're doing and watching you and training you and assessing you The next best thing that's far less expensive Would be a program like prime and prime pro where you can do a self-assessment And address some of these issues yourself and over over a period of time you'd be very surprised I've had so many clients who could literally I trained a doctor an osteopath This was a this was a knee surgeon who came to me and said I don't I don't lunge my knees don't lunge. Sorry I just don't lunge. What do you think we were doing six months later without pain lunging And it was all because we addressed a lot of these immobility issues and they were able to function and move And finally be able to do some of these awesome exercises, which is the case with most people It's very rare that you run into somebody that You address all these issues and you fundamentally just can't do the exercises for whatever reason Oh, very very rarely. I mean you get we get off the toilet every day, right? Yeah, you sit down on a toilet you get up out there you sit down at a dinner table So you you're squatting you know saying what it is is is you squat with no chair To sit back on and you actually have to mechanically control yourself Yet you just don't have that yet and it's it's okay. It's very fucking normal It's especially for people that have kind of beat up their body for a really long time and not taking care of it I mean shit I too I've been training for 15 years and I had to completely regress all of this And eliminate all these movements and then work on all the stuff that we're talking about right now With the ankles and the feet and the hips like this is and you you got to make this a priority You have to make it something do not settle For not being able to do not being able to do these movements And what I mean by don't settle and is not push yourself to do the movements Push yourself to get to the point where you can do it pain-free And by doing that we need to address the joints that around so if you have the knee in the middle I'm looking to the ankle and I'm looking to the hip because those two joints are probably in mobile And that's causing the stress on the knee. It's not that you have bad unless you again We're speculating if you tell me come back and say, oh, I've a fractured patella like you gotta understand where your limitations lie And where you know where the pain starts to come in in place and like what that That angle is like all these factors to Then give you that kind of a feedback So now if I work on mobilizing, you know, my hips or my ankles or my feet I want to reassess and see, you know, how how this is translating to to the movement Even if you do have an issue with your knee, even if you do have You know, yeah bursitis, right? The reason why you probably have that is because of the dysfunction In your again in your ankle and in your hips So even if you do have a problem with your knee correcting these issues We'll only make it better and sometimes we'll eliminate the problem. Sometimes it's completely gone Even though you were diagnosed with you know, contamination I just I just shot a youtube video today talking about and I would definitely if you were someone who was really overweight I'm willing to bet That you have an excessive pronation in your feet. I bet you money that your feet are pronating I guarantee that the peronials are tight. The it is tight and it's pulling the fuck out of that knee And it's already you're already stressing and pulling the knee then you go to squat tracking properly Yeah, it's not tracking properly your femur slightly internally rotated So you've already got it Everything's all locked up and tight and then you go to squat and then it just feels you feel this sharp pain probably in your knee And it's not bad knees It's the mechanics and everything else that we need to fix which is you can you definitely can't just prime prime pro That's where you need to live. That's it, man. All right next question is from eddie the coach How would you incorporate plios as prescription for clients? Wow, this is um, I think the only place you actually see them is uh Performance that's in our programs. Yeah mass performance. What clients would you even prescribe? Plios too because I'll tell you what I see all the time in the gym I see trainers first of all using plio is wrong It's just a way to get people fatigued. I burn calories and I see people doing plios that have No business doing plios. Yes at all like average person Well, there's I mean, there's just a lot of prerequisites that I have to get through before I even think about Programming plios into somebody's uh, you know routine it's It's such a joint integrity thing for me and a responsiveness and a stability Like all the above like you have to establish this awesome foundation to where We work our way like you have this this great strength foundation You you you can respond to different all different types of forces at once and you can You can actually uh, like we did the anti rotation series Like you can actually like prevent things from rotating while rotating simultaneously I mean, it's pretty complex like so that's why if you if you look at like an asm Which is a certification that we have all kind of recommended as a good starting point I mean, they don't they don't have that You don't get to that till you know the very pinnacle of of the pyramid of of their progression of phases Specifically for athletes or a letter train. Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I think they're close to fucking worthless I think plios have very little place in programming unless you have a specific Goal that's that requires it for example Somebody who is trying to increase their 40 r-dash Somebody who plays on a football field and is explosive left or right So an athlete someone that you're it's actually an athlete right now that is trying to approve upon Their their reaction time their proprioception. They have specific goals pertaining to that if it is a average client In my opinion, they have no there what you're trying to accomplish Through plios. I feel I can get that in almost Are so many other ways for the average jainer and the reason the reason why adam's saying it's it's a waste of time Isn't because it's risk versus world. There you go. It's just a high risk. Yes versus very little reward Even if they even if the client is mechanically sound You're not getting these huge crazy gains out of it not not what most people want Most people come to you if you're a coach if you're a trainer, right? Most people come to you and they're looking to lose body fat or build muscle or Feel better. Maybe they want to like increase endurance or like that, but you can do all those things without plios You don't need to increase endurance stamina. You don't need plios now. Now people are going to wonder Why do trainers always why do I always see trainers have people jump on shit and Because it's fucking it's fun. Maybe it's cool. It's cool If you see a trainer doing jump boxes repetitively one after another and you see them do more than More than five repetitions. They don't know the fuck they're doing. Yeah, they don't know what they're doing Especially if you're trying to train if you're trying to train vertical on somebody so I was okay So I was doing this yesterday. I was doing plios yesterday. I'm sitting here talking about how plios are worth this I was doing them yesterday But I'm actually I have a specific goal that I'm trying to obtain right now and I'm and it's related to my vertical And you see me do three. I do three explosive jump boxes walk down Go I'm doing something else. I come back three explosive jump boxes. I'm done. That's it. It's not to fatigue I'm not gas like crazy. Yeah, that's not the idea trying to get better at exploding Yes, well I in just to yeah, exactly to to kind of connect to the central nervous system and and like that's the ultimate expression of You know being able to accelerate and and speed so to be in a controlled Um movement and be able to have and maintain to be able to decelerate it quickly to it's just super complex And and you guys are right like it's it's not something that I would like take with my average person like here It's ready for this it takes strength power and stability It's really athletic it takes all three of those and a good decent amount of proprioceptive ability too because You could get someone with you know good stability and strength and a lot of stuff and they'll fucking trip or fall or land Wrong because they're not or I have heard some physical therapists prescribe it as like this is this is something that they Is part of the recovery process because they're trying to stimulate that They're trying to stimulate this fast twitch movement and get things Yeah, but when they're what are they jumping on they're not jumping on anything. It's probably in place. It's very small It's very controlled very controlled the way I would incorporate it if I did incorporate it Here's where you don't necessarily want to incorporate plyos at the end of a grueling workout it's probably I would say probably the worst place to put it because Person is fatigued you're not going to get much out of plyos training at the very end when they're tired Except for maybe building more endurance from the exhaustion factor I would say plyos should be around their own workout or at the beginning of a workout After you've done proper priming. Well, and they should be specific to the goal Like, you know, you should you uh, susie who's 38 doesn't need to be doing jump boxes unless she's a basketball player What the fuck is she needed to increase her vert for yeah Like they did again the risk was what now that and I know I'm saying that I know there's fucking a bunch of people That love plyos that are listening right now if they'll totally offended by this Listen, if you're a fucking supremo athlete and you you're about pushing your body to new limits And and that is like Justin said like that's the pinnacle like when you go through Stabilization proprioception you go to strength you go to power The pinnacle is this ability to do plyometric reactive type of training like so Yeah, I mean if you're somebody who's just all about the human performance And you're wanting to press your body to these ultimate limits Then yeah, we work your way up the ladder get the get all those other things get all the prerequisites Done to where you can handle pushing the body but for the most part I can count on two hands for sure because I definitely have trained enough athletes to where I use plyos But very very few did I ever ever train? So I trained myself with plyos for a little while when I was doing uh competing in jujitsu, but it wasn't The same kind of plyos you'd typically see in the gym Like I wasn't jumping on boxes and stuff because I'm a grappler So what I would do is I would go to jump. Yeah, I would go to the field. I'm not best I would go to the field and I would throw things I do you know a suplex with a uh, you know Heavy bag or a pedal bell right? See that's going is good. Yeah, you want to maintain throw pattern If I had so if I was training you and you're a jujitsu guy I could totally see taking the big old hundred pound sandbag and having you Huck it over your one shoulder then hook it over the other shoulder and do like this kind of explosive Plyometric work with something like that it makes sense because you're going to be throwing people on the mat So that's what I if you're going to do plyos Just make sure the movement pertains to whatever this person is really trying to accomplish Which and I think where I'm trying to what I'm trying to state is that most people that are trying to do plyos are prescribe it in a routine They're just trying to prescribe it in a routine. Oh, it's it's you ever seen the pictures of people Well, they'll post like just you'll see like crossfit athletes or crossfit people who train crossfit will do this They'll post pictures of their shins. Yeah, because they hit the jump box at the end of my wall or whatever Like you should not do plyos to fatigue. It's not a You're not getting at least I mean you can if you want if you want to make your endurance training dangerous You know, that's yeah. Well, you you may as well jump around in circles and flail your arms all over the place too I mean, that's the same you're getting those same benefits. Right. It's the stamina endurance Stamina I used to tell people that like you really want to do that Well, you can also just flail your arms turn around and circles and do summer salts and just act a fool In fact, that actually might be better for you that actually because it's less risk fire drill If that's what you're looking for if you're looking for increased endurance and stamina There's better ways to do that. We put plyos and maps performance at the I think we put it at the in the middle, right? Or no, right? Yeah, it's the third phase third phase But that program that program is specifically again for people who want athletic performance and we even say in there specifically When to use them and if you shouldn't use them to decide because we know as trainers again reps are low in quality That's it and quality is very very important with plyo. So hope that answers your question. Check this out. Go to youtube Uh, we posted a new video today. 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