 आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आ� आप आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� आ� और आपी करुना प्रवुस सदा की है पिता सारी महिमा देते वेस प्रात्मा को मांगते है प्रवुसु नस्वाग्राज में दिहन कर पिता आमें आमें, आमें, तांक्यो, तांक्यो, रिबिका, फो लीटिग आस, with that word of prayer if that is not happening then something is wrong so what could happen is we might also end up doing the wrong things and having the wrong mindset when we approach god in prayer so what is the wrong mindset here we begin to think of prayer as a manipulative tool so if i want something i will go to god He has to to give it to me I will fast for 21 days He has to change his mind and he has to give it to me So,astr is not a manipulative tool That is the wrong approach When we use that wrong approach We will not see success And if we are wanting 100% success In whatever our desire it is We could not only circulating God अद भी थीा अगे आर्चाना कम देपने गडिन से आवाँ द़ेएता है तुस्व बहुत है कुत और लगी बाग और नहीं। वो आपका वत्छतिए मुँँउइश्विर्ग शास्टिकाना दरॉट आपकें दर। लगागविर्जके आपका रगा प्रेनी Right. We could say that my son, he wants to be a doctor, but let him never be a doctor. l want him to be an aerospace engineer only. रोगा उठीर, करीन, आप पर की पाशार, आप भी तुटिए, आप पते लगा ज़ा ग़े साए ब्याओता। भींको自 स् wasted ingredient with some eye भी आपकाže सीभन द्ख्� B aggregates with one eye � exotic ingredient with other eye मंसे जारे � הुतनत साबापा रहा बतावाो भी अठ त्री औई सिस आप भोताी आपता, धाख thighs तराइ। प्रेय ततक औब प्रच्वाजा दूत over those boundries, those natural boundaries that God has set, आठक ता्ध, आधा वो धपाते कर दसा आद तगताया मतम दरगाईए तग्ज़ाद थे की प्रच्वाजा था जी और ठी वो जी रोगी बाँा, आचया विदासा थे गराईगर जीए वो आप दे तोटाद. की श़वागी सी, को अंगा ढिवाफया दैगा थोग्याए हूँ... सब श़ट्श्ट्ट्चा करम जीए साजब भादा बाशाँ देगा वैद्ईना, सब लिए साजबादा लिए शाजबाफया चिलताना गूँ को तो देखा, जों्गार च्टीका के कोंंगार मेरे लिए गी दाने की दें तेमारकिमने छ़ाएशा की आपुवाँंगी जोंगाराईangersewhelei but if we don't have those boundaries, then we could go off on the wrong tangent. Also, we cannot try to change God's word or God's overall plan over mankind. I have given you some examples earlier on and I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. So, when we stick to the will of God, when we stick to the boundaries of God, then we can be effective in our prayers. Now, some people say the example of Apostle Paul. They use the passage where he says that there is a thorn in my flesh and God uses a thorn in the flesh to develop us and to develop our prayer life. So, how about we read that passage first and then I will come and explain that passage in a clear way for us and in the context of what we are discussing right now. Second Corinthians 12 verses 6 to 10 anybody can you please go ahead and read that passage for us please. Okay, any volunteers? Second Corinthians 12 verses 6 to 10. For though I might desire to boast, I will not be a fool for I will speak the truth but I refrain lest anyone should think of me about what he sees me to be or hears from me. Unless I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me a messenger of Satan to buffet me lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing, I pleaded with the law three times that it might depart from me and he said to me, my grace is sufficient for you for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Therefore, most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore, I take pleasure in infirmities and reproaches in needs and persecutions and distresses for Christ's sake for when I am weak then I am strong. Yes, thank you Divya, thank you for that passage. So, the reason we are looking at this passage is see this is an unanswered prayer right. So, three times Paul is saying that he prayed that this thorn in the flesh would be removed from him but God responds by saying, my grace is sufficient for you. What happens? A lot of us as believers we take this passage right as an excuse for unanswered prayer and we say that okay you know my prayer didn't get answered because God is allowing that that phrase is used right God is allowing this difficulty or he is allowing the sickness, he is allowing this oppression. Now in the last class I clarified that God never puts sickness on us okay so that we must be very clear about so if we are praying against a sickness and it is continuing as a child of God knowing that you know God has a covenant of healing with us we can continue to present for healing okay because that is the right perspective. Now it may happen the healing may happen right away or it might take several days or even you know much longer than that to manifest that's all right but at least you're pressing in the right direction. In this case however Paul's case the thorn in the flesh that he's talking about it is quite clear it's not a sickness that you know God is saying I will not heal you that's not the point because we know he himself says that it is a messenger of satan. So what is the thorn in the flesh it is a demonic power and this demonic power was oppressing Paul and God for whatever reason he did not take it away okay even though Paul prayed three times now how is it and why is it like this the thorn in the flesh for the sake of Paul you know God we could say that you know the prayer didn't get answered because you know Paul had an abundance of revelation when you look at the major part of the new testament that he wrote and all that he claims about revelation you know Paul is an unusual personality in that sense he's one of those foundational apostles who had a revelation that none of us can compare with okay and we also know that the the kind of foundational apostles who existed we no longer have those ministers with us as in nobody is going to change the revelation of God's word anymore okay because it's already written so we cannot claim any new revelation which is contradictory to the written word of God okay now some of us might say I have a revelation on this truth yeah it's already there in scripture and God is enlightening us further in that truth okay nothing new that we will add to scripture but the kind of ministry that God gave Paul was he was writing out that new revelation for the first time so here is a man who has incredible incredible revelation okay now we could say that you know God probably did not take away that that spirit to keep him depending on God because the level of Paul's revelation is incomparable now if I take this passage and I say I have a thought in the flesh and God is not answering my prayer it wouldn't be correct because I am comparing myself to the to the revelation of Paul which I cannot compare I don't think anybody can compare right and there was a reason why only in this case that demon was not stopped okay and so for us to apply this in our lives would be wrong it would be incorrect so taking this example to say that oh God is not going to answer there will be some thorns in the flesh okay her would be wrong so we don't have to wait on any thorns in the flesh this is a unique case this second Corinthians 12 but like Jesus we can expect the answer to all our prayers okay now yes there can be tests and trials we discussed that in our earlier session in that scenario you know definitely you know God will bring us out and whatever we are going through it will only cause our growth provided we respond to God in the right manner okay but it's just a matter of time that before we see the victory so does God intentionally you know put put us in a difficult place to destroy us answer is a big no okay and therefore we can always look to God confidently go to God to receive his blessings receive his guidance receive his deliverance receive his healing okay we should not use these one-off examples in scripture to justify our you know our lack of pursuit of answered prayer okay i hope that's clear and i hope there's no confusion about that would you want to ask any questions along the same lines or give some comments okay so joash says it's clear okay nika sin yes nika sin please go ahead you can ask a question i just i mean popped in my head so i just want to ask it just want to know if we are called to be like jesus christ and do it says in certain scriptures we would even do great greater things sometimes but paul was human end of the day right so technically i'm just saying if we have the faith we would also do amazing crazy things like paul and probably greater than paul so does that add up anywhere or am i wrong in saying that no you're you're correct you're a hundred percent correct that we are called to do greater things and that was the experience of paul the apostles and the early church you know once jesus ascended they saw an incredible number of miracles and supernatural works take place even though jesus was not personally doing them okay and today we too can expect maybe even more amazing than what paul and peter and the apostles saw so we're not comparing to that nika sin what we are saying is when it comes to this passage okay this passage it specifically deals with the revelation and the abundance of revelation that apostle paul had and that grace right so that grace is an apostolic grace and even in the apostolic grace uh the apostles that came after scripture was already written their grace is different so can anybody have the kind of apostolic grace that paul had to write out scripture anymore answer is no we cannot have it because that calling was only upon his life right so that same calling will not be upon the life of anybody else now because of that calling and because of that nature of revelation this passage exists that you know he says because of the abundance of thing thorn in the flesh was given he's a messenger of satan and i pray to god three times but you know god said my grace is sufficient for you so that apostolic calling and grace we cannot have but yes we can do greater works okay we can do greater works in the calling in the grace in the work of the holy spirit that is given to us so does that make sense or does it confuse you perfectly thank you okay great yes thank you thanks nika sin good question there yes rosalind has a comment here ma'am is it possible for us also to have the thorn in the flesh what if we have to have that grace at paul so yeah rosalind that's what i'm clarifying i'm saying we can't have okay because the grace upon his life was of a founding apostle and that founding apostle grace is already over 2000 years ago god gave that grace to people like paul and you know james and uh uh apostle john and apostle peter they've already written scripture and they've gone so we can't have it answer is no we can't have that grace okay and because they had that grace and particularly paul who had greater revelation even in comparison to other apostles the thorn in the flesh happened to him so answer to your question is it possible for us also to have a thorn in the flesh answer would be no okay does it make sense rosalind oh yes okay sure so point we are saying is see we can use this passage to say that i'm not getting an answer god is allowing god is allowing this problem we shouldn't do that instead okay i'm not getting an answer why am i not getting an answer scripturally let me see okay okay is it about faith okay if it's about faith let me read uh you know the word of god more in this area for my breakthrough okay if it's not about faith if it's about the wrong kind of prayer that i'm praying okay let me pray in the right way if it is about me asking my own desire okay let me ask him the will of god so basically if we don't have an answer prayer then we look at scriptural reasons why am i not having an answer and then you try to pursue god with what the holy spirit you know leads you with okay but don't give up and say hi it's a thorn in the flesh just like paul we can't compare with that passage okay so that was the point we were trying to make so i think that must be clear enough so if there are no more questions on this topic we can proceed ahead okay so chapter five in our notes here i'm on page 18 has to do with the various kinds of prayers that we find in scripture now we can learn about them we can also apply them in our own prayer lives one foundational scripture for different kinds of prayers is from Ephesians chapter 6 and verse 18 it'll be good for somebody to read it please anyone can you read Ephesians 6 and verse 18 Ephesians verses 18 yes please go ahead abu bekaya praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplications for all the saint yes thank you so if you have noticed here it says praying always with all prayer okay all prayer referring to different kinds all meaning there must be more must be a category of prayers so what is this category if you read other translations there's a god speed translation which says every kind of prayer so there are kinds of prayers there are categories within prayer so we can actually know what these categories are and we can apply them in our own personal lives even if we read the passage from first Timothy chapter 2 and verse 1 that also enlist certain categories i think it'll be good to read it so first Timothy chapter 2 and verse 1 please can somebody read that passage for us anyone we'll be reading a lot of scriptures today so i want us to be alert and quick so we can save time so can somebody read second second Timothy 2 1 sorry first Timothy first Timothy first Timothy first Timothy 2 verse 1 therefore i'd first of all that supplications prayers intercessions and giving of thanks be made for all men great thank you divya so you notice there are categories right supplications what else does it say supplications then prayers prayers then what else intercessions yes giving of thanks okay great thank you so you know four different terms used to approach God so that in itself says that there are types kinds okay categories of prayers so we can understand each one of these kinds of prayers and learn how to use it we could pray a certain kind of prayer for the most part or have a combination of these prayers either way you know whatever works and however the spirit of God is leading us is what is the appropriate type to use so the first kind of prayer is that of asking and receiving and i think for all of us as believers this is the simplest form of prayer which we learn and even before we come to trust in God i'm sure you know in your memories if at all like for me yes i could look back before i believed in God also asking and receiving was a common understanding like you can ask and you will get it so this is there in the word of God and what is this prayer basically you you come before God with a request okay and that request is granted to you we already looked at the passage of Matthew 7 in the last session where Jesus said ask you know seek knock then you will receive that answer to your request okay there are two more passages i think it is good that we read it so mark 11 24 can somebody read it please mark 11 24 and then john 16 versus 23 and 24 so one person can read mark the other person can read john mark 11 24 yes silly today yeah therefore i say to you whatever things you ask when you pray believe that you will see them and you will have them thank you you see Jesus is talking about asking whatever things you want desire you ask and you will have them right okay great uh john what does it say in that day you will no longer ask me anything i tell you the truth my father will give you whatever you ask in my name yes until now you have not asked for anything in my name ask and you will receive and your joy will be complete amen yes yeah thank you uh rosalind so you notice here all these three passages are encouraging us to ask God okay and uh God wants us to ask about different things that concern our lives i know that at every uh stage in our lives our asking is different right uh but we can continue to ask him we can continue to ask him for spiritual things uh the way it sounds 27 you know uh david writes he says that you know one thing i have asked and that is only you god you know that i may dwell in the house of the lord all the days of my life to inquire uh you know in the house of the lord so those can be the things that we ask can be those spiritual things where we say god you know i i want only you i want your presence i want greater uh understanding of your word or god i want deeper revelation of your word so we can ask for spiritual things we can also ask for the natural things because isn't it the lord jesus in the lord's prayer who taught us to say okay give us this day our daily bread okay so my wants and needs for this natural uh world i bring before the lord i ask him or maybe depending on the uh the uh you know the the place where you are in your in your life you have decisions to make you know some of us we have decisions to make about education what will i do next some of us have decisions to make about our jobs you know uh what career will i invest my time in or some of us have decisions to make regarding a life partner who should i be with uh to fulfill god's purpose for my life or you know you have decisions about ministry you have decisions about family whatever it is the word of god encourages us to ask and jesus said so far when he was here on the earth they did not ask but you know he he uh encouraged them to ask and said whatever you ask uh in my name i will do it for you so uh this comes from god uh this nudging for us to ask and uh you know we we can go before him with our prayers and god is faithful uh no matter what prayer it is about the spiritual matters or about the natural matters about making decisions you know god is saying you ask me and i will answer you so we must seek the lord so that is the simple prayer of asking and you receive right so what happens when you ask the whole point is that god wants to give to us he wants to respond to us uh and he wants to uh you know show us that you know he has done uh this mighty work in our lives so there are so many examples of asking and receiving uh from our own personal lives uh okay i don't know which example to actually share with you but okay let me share this uh this happened last year and we had to make a decision regarding the online uh bible college and as a team uh right you know we we were thinking about it and pastor shared with us that he had decided to open up uh the online bible college to uh not just india but other countries as well and at that point you know he told us uh why don't we all by faith believe uh that uh people will register from at least 30 countries okay i think 30 was the number that he gave us and uh he said pray together with me agree together with me we will believe god we will ask him for people to register from 30 countries and you know for all of us it was the first time ever right that we're opening it up internationally the bible college online so uh for me i was like 30 countries how is it possible you know it's a lot of countries that we're asking for but i was like okay as a team we are believing let's go ahead and pray but you will be amazed to hear that once the uh applications we invited applications it was easily above 30 countries right like the number of uh students who applied and uh the the countries that they applied from it was above 30 and uh you know that was a prayer that i just can't forget we asked god we received more than what we asked him uh for and you know it was such an encouragement for us that wow when we opened it up globally that the very first batch you know we are having from over 30 nations okay uh and that's an example i just wanted to share with us and i i'm sure that there must be so many examples that you have so you ask right you ask by faith you ask in the name of jesus why because god wants to give it to us okay and god can do it so this is the simple prayer of asking and receiving now we will look at another type of prayer or a kind of prayer which is the prayer of supplication okay the supplication prayer uh this is also an asking uh and receiving prayer but the term supplication has to do with earnestly uh asking very earnestly okay or uh you could also use the term like desperate desperately pleading uh and uh uh you know um entry thing crying out to god in the bible when we uh hear off the blind man you remember the blind man who called upon jesus in matthew chapter 20 he said son of david you know have mercy on us have mercy on us he was crying out to god when the multitudes were rebuking him and saying hey you know keep quiet don't make noise but he kept calling out and the lord jesus actually responded to him jesus uh asked him what do you want me what should i do for you then you know he uh told the lord that he wants his eyes to be open so this kind of a prayer where you are earnestly asking god crying out pleading okay you can also use the term begging the way this blind man was begging uh and asking god is called as supplication and there can be uh times in our lives when we are not just you know saying okay god i want this to happen but it's more of a desperate thing like god you know i really want you to open up a door for ministry and you have to make a way for me right so you're pleading before the lord on that one particular uh request so this is a prayer of supplication uh we can supplicate right we can come and we can uh you know keep asking the lord and it might involve some uh you know like uh what do you say emotional passionate uh asking uh of the lord but it's very much a part of scripture so if we are making supplications to the lord it can be about uh you know various things maybe some concerns current concerns which we have in our family and we are saying lord you know we want to break through we want a financial breakthrough and every day you're praying about that every day you're calling upon the lord you know passionately uh emotionally you're just calling upon the lord and saying god i want to i want to see lord i want to see a turnaround in this in this situation uh what are you doing you're bringing in a prayer of supplication before the lord and even jesus you know he also the bible says that when he lived here on the earth he he had supplications that he made to the father okay and particularly if you recall at the time when he was in the garden of gethsemane he was crying out to the lord he was you know uh seeking him very uh passionately about one particular thing which is for if possible for him to escape the the uh the pain of the cross okay so jesus also prayed prayers of supplication so supplication is nothing but asking and receiving but uh a prayer where you are very earnestly pressing in uh to the things of god all right yeah now moving forward the next kind of prayer that we have here is the prayer of intercession so as the uh name itself gives us a clue intercession is to stand uh on behalf of someone okay uh in the passages that we read earlier we saw we saw this term intercession you know that we also read it intercession uh and intercession simply means having someone pray for us now in the case of job you know if we read a couple of passages i think i will ask us to read it one is job chapter nine versus 32 and 22 and another person can read job chapter 16 verse 21 uh and then you know i i will be in a better position to explain it to us so can two people read these passages please job nine and job 16 anyone for he is not a man as i am that i might answer him that we should come to try together yeah thank you ribika uh job 16 i need someone to meditate between god and me as a person meditates between friends okay yes thank you so you know uh when job was going through a very difficult phase in his life uh he cry he asked for somebody okay in the first passage i think ribika read one verse only but uh there are two verses there where you know he says that uh i wish there was somebody who could go before god for my sake and uh in what jeffina read you know he says okay i wish there was somebody to mediate between god and me because he was in a situation where maybe he couldn't even pray to god okay it was going through so much in his life and what is the cry of his heart is there anybody else who can pray for me please okay so that was what job expected now we know in in what god has provided for us as prayer we have the opportunity to pray on behalf of others okay now those people they might be praying for themselves or maybe they are in a position where they cannot pray for themselves whatever the situation we can pray for others and you know we will study later that this manner of praying for others is also a ministry where we can bless others you know we we we stand in the gap for them and i think i've shared this testimony with our class earlier that during covid you know during the second phase of covid here in india and here in bangalore city we had so many people being affected so as a church family we had those 40 days of prayer which was going on online early in the mornings and just as a result of that you know we have heard testimonies how people were healed how people were protected so what was actually happening there is a bunch of people this bunch is standing in the gap or they are praying for another set of people right and you know that that is an incredible blessing we can intercede for someone and we don't even know whether those people are in a position to pray for themselves but you know one kind of prayer is intercession you and i can pray for others others can pray for us and god has made it in such a way that this this initiative of ours or this effort of ours that it will be a blessing it will strengthen the other person it can you know bring them out of their situation or circumstance which they are facing so intercession is a is another beautiful kind of prayer that we can engage in and it it is all about praying for others and not for ourselves the next category of prayer which is recorded here is the prayer of thanksgiving can we see this in scripture where where you know we go before the lord to adore him to praise him to worship him to to thank him even when we you know start our classes many a time the prayers include heavenly father we thank you for this day we thank you for this opportunity to learn your word you know we thank you for every blessing that you have given us right so what's happening it is a part of our prayer it's not an asking and receiving kind of a prayer but it is more of a thanksgiving it is more of an adoration it's more of a praise it's more of a worship lot we thank you because you are so faithful this morning in the supernatural love we sang great is your faithfulness oh god okay we sang that song it's thanksgiving from our hearts so thanksgiving you can express it during your your worship but it can also be very much a part of your prayer we do see prayers of thanksgiving in the word of god and it's a beautiful time of prayer you would all agree right sometimes just engaging in prayer and just spending you know a couple of minutes or even even like half an hour one hour or everything you can think of to worship the lord everything you can think of to thank the lord and you know it's never enough it's never enough and just as you engage in the prayer of thanksgiving you know there's that presence of god that you experience right because you are you are encountering the nature of god as we begin to thank him for his goodness for his mercy what's happening you know you're beholding his beauty right this is who he is this is how faithful he is this is all this is what he has done in my life right so the prayer of thanksgiving and enter his gates with thanksgiving so many times in our in our prayer we begin with the prayers of thanksgiving okay and that's a huge part of our prayer lives all right so i think we will stop here for today we just have another two minutes to go and before we wrap up today if there is any anything you want to share about any prayer of asking and receiving that you have experienced or intercession or thanksgiving you know or supplication that would be nice very briefly very quickly if you can share how you prayed and how god answered that will be encouraging for the class can i share yes yes please go ahead jeffina yes um first of all thank you for this opportunity to stay share my experience uh myself and my father was separated for 15 years for some reason so we lived in some other place and my father lived in some other place so as a girl child i i really really miss my dad like you know when going to school when other people draw and other dads draw their child i i was like my dad is not with me so that hurted me for a long time so 15 years i lived with a lot of pain and and the last three years before that i came to know who jesus is i came to know how to pray i came to know that he already did everything on the cross for me so what i did was i thank god like i confessed that my dad is here i believe that god you made a way for my dad to be here and then finally uh he wrote some exams to come here to have a job first time he failed second time he failed and for the third time when he was going to write that exam to come here i was the one who prayed i was a very little girl i was doing my eighth grade in school and i said it was a very fun prayer i'll say because i was very little and i said god you raised up on the third day mike dad is writing for the third time let him come here make a way i know you can uh all of the sudden out of the blue i prayed that day and he failed that time too but the government changed the rules for him to be passed and that was a great miracle and then it's been like six to seven years my dad is here so that is one of the great change in my life and i'm thankful for that forever wow thank you jeffina and uh you know that's a personal story that you've shared with us thank you for doing that but uh you know we're so encouraged to know that god has answered your prayer a simple prayer because as a child you prayed and uh that's the god we serve right so he sees our heart and you asked you received how beautiful thank you thank you very encouraging very encouraging yeah so uh i think we have run out of time so uh let's close today and we will continue on the different kinds of prayers from the next class uh so i would like to request one of us to please pray and close uh today's class please anybody could you lead in uh word of prayer okay anyone just one yeah can i please yes yes uh isek please go ahead at this moment we want to thank god for answering prayers and just in our example he stated in the prayer of axing and receiving that you in the apc ax for the operation of the online bible class uh college outside india and it happened we want to thank god that we are beneficiaries of that particular prayer and we continue for to employ god to always answer our prayers because he has promised that he will answer us and we pray that he always give us the right direction where we can ask where we can intercede or where we can praise how we can pray so that our prayers can be effective we ask that everything that we have benefited and will continue to benefit out of this prayer now that we are students of this college we pray that more students will avail of the causes we want to thank god for all the life of all you who are the faculty members we pray that also we who are students can benefit more and more people will benefit out of this prayer that you pray we assure you that your prayer was answered we thank god for answering prayers thank you everybody god bless also amen amen thank you thank you isak for leading us and once again thank you everyone for connecting we will connect back again next week god bless you have a good weekend thank you ma'am thank you bye thank you bye god bless thank you thank you bye thank you thank you thank you thank you ma'am