 I guess we'll get started. So good morning everyone and welcome to the 12 PM public portion of the closed session of the February 11, 2020 meeting of the Santa Cruz City Council. In this part of the meeting, the council will receive public testimony. Thereafter, the council members will move to the courtyard conference room for the closed session. I would like to ask clerk to please call the roll. Thank you, Mayor. Council member is Watkins. Here. Matthews. Here. Brown. Here. Lover. Here. Brown. Here. Vice Mayor Myers. And Mayor Cummings. Here. Are there any members of the public who would like to speak on any of the items on closed session agenda today? You can come up to the mic and you'll have two minutes. You can use the podium. Hi, my name is Sybil Bay and I'm the one that filed the claim against the city for a main water break that happened on my street and damaged my property. I brought my binder today. I submitted all my documentation to the city, but I brought backups today in case you want to take a look. And I also wasn't able to send in two videos that I have that my neighbors took that I have in my phone in case you want to take a look at those. But basically, my neighbor had noticed a wet patch in our shared alley that serves four houses. And I, back at the beginning of last year. And he said, I think you might have a water break, Sybil, or something wrong with your water. And I was, so I had called the water department, spoke to them many times. They came out, kept telling me my water meter was not running, it was not my water. But the water got worse and worse, and pretty soon my entire portion of the alley was wet. But my water meter was not running. So I didn't know what it was and I had to talk to multiple people there. And it's all, you can contact the water department, they have it all documented. I mostly spoke to Joanna, I think her name was, that she probably got sick of me calling. Because I kept saying, what is going on? And it turned out a woman named Leah came out many times. And she said, I think that we have to wait until the rain stops to test the water last, this is last winter. And I said, I need to figure this out because my neighbors aren't happy and it's eroding my driveway. It was basically coming down from De La Viega Park Road, the top of my house. I live on a hill, am I over? No, anyway, I have all the documentation and you can take a look and see what had happened, but thank you. Thank you. Is there any other member of the public who would like to comment on this item? A question, would it be possible to get access to the video? I mean, is there a way, I'm not asking, is there a way we can do that? Just to have access? Yeah, I would suggest that you work with Patty Heyman, our risk manager, to arrange to have the emails and then she can then get them to the council. Leave the binder? Yeah. Yes, yes. And they have all the materials too, just so you know that you submit it, they've got them in their packets too. All right, there's no other member of the public who would like to comment on this. We'll adjourn to the courtyard council and assume for a closed session. Okay, good afternoon and welcome to our 12th, 30th session of the February 11, 2020 meeting of the city council. I would like to ask the clerk to please call the roll. Thank you, Mayor, Council Member Watkins. Here. Matthews. Here. Brown. Here. Glover. Here. Brown. Here. Vice Mayor Meyers. Here. And Mayor Cummings. Here. And if the clerk could please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Before we begin, I would also like to acknowledge that the land on which we gather is the unceded territory of the Owaswa speaking UP tribe. The Amamuts and Tribal Band comprised of the descendants of indigenous people taken to Mission Santa Cruz and San Juan Batista during Spanish colonization of the Central Coast is today working hard to restore traditional stewardship practices on these lands and heal from historical trauma. Moving on, we will start with the introduction of new employees. And I would like to invite up Assistant City Manager Laura Schmidt to introduce Brett Wulman. Thank you, Mayor and Council Members. Laura Schmidt. I'd like to introduce Brett Wulman. He is our new records coordinator in the city clerk's division of the city manager's office. Brett earned a degree in business management at San Diego State University. You know, Ralph graduated from there, right? I talked to him. Okay. And moved to Santa Cruz about nine years ago. His professional experience includes a variety of jobs and banking, plus a recent stint as a compliance specialist. His organization, customer service, and detail orientation were truly standout characteristics in his interviews here at the city. He has a wide variety of interests from reading, writing, running, music, and sports. For conversation starters, he more specifically plays the guitar and is a fan of the LA Clippers and the LA Chargers, which we may not hold against him, I suppose. He may still speak to him, though, and apparently, he was an LA Clippers fan from when they were terrible. So he shows a certain level of dedication. He enjoys exploring the beaches and mountains in Santa Cruz and our surrounding areas. Please welcome Brett. Next, we have Director of Libraries Susan Nimitz to introduce Laura Kern. Hi, I'm Susan Nimitz. I'm the Director of the Santa Cruz Public Library, and I'm here with Lauren Kern. Lauren came to Santa Cruz in 2009 from Temecula. I'm learning my California lingo. Is it Temecula? She came to be a student at UCSC and majored in biology. She joined the library four years ago in a temporary position as an aide, and she's now joining us to be a permanent library assistant at Felton. And I just want to do a shout out to Felton, because it opens on Saturday the 22nd. We'd love to have you all attend. Lauren writes and reads, which is true of most library staff, but she's also a homemade bread maker. Please welcome Lauren. Good question. Susan, what's the time for the Felton? Speeches start at nine. The ribbon cutting's at ten, so you can time in between that. Thank you, we'd love you all to come. Next up we have the Director of Public Works, Mark Dettel, to introduce three new employees. Good afternoon, Mark Dettel, Director of Public Works. It's my pleasure to introduce three of our new employees. Next to me is Jonathan Garcia, he's a new solid waste worker. Born and raised in Santa Cruz and currently lives in Santa Cruz. He has two younger brothers and a pet dog and he used to work for Community Tree Service. He attended Santa Cruz High and he enjoys mountain biking when he's not working for the city. Jonathan, and next to Jonathan is our new engineering technician, Noi O Yan. And Noi was, she was born in China and moved to the United States when she was 14 years old. She attended high school in Round Rock, Texas, a small town outside of Austin. After high school, she moved to college station and lived there for six years to attend school. She got her master's and bachelor's degree there. And then she worked in Austin for two years before moving to California. Now she currently lives in Campbell and she has a fiance and a cat named Coconut. So she didn't name her fiance, but she named her cat, so she shared that. She's worked as an engineering in training with an environmental consulting firm in Austin called LNV. And she worked on a lot of projects like hydraulic modeling treatment plant and distribution design. And the two main projects were hydraulic modeling on GIS and ozone system improvements for their treatment plant, which really works well with our waste water treatment going to tertiary and recycled water. She attended Texas A&M and got her master's degree in civil engineering and a bachelor's degree in biological and agricultural engineering, which is water resources mainly focused on irrigation. And when she's not working, what she likes to do for fun, she loves to paint and draw. And she also enjoys hiking, running, and tennis. And a fun fact that she wanted to share, her name is interesting, Nae O. She said it's really from in 2000 and based on the Olympic Games being held in Sydney. The Nae came from Sydney and the O from Olympic. And it turns out that there was a competition between Beijing, China, and Sydney, Australia, to see who would host the Olympic Games. And if the game would have been in Beijing, her name would have been Jing, Jing Ho. So anyway, it's leaving it up to fate. That's pretty interesting. So anyway, please welcome Nae Ho. And next to Nae is a new equipment service worker, Rafael Landeros. He was born in Mexico in the state of Michicon. He grew up in Santa Cruz. He currently lives in Watsonville. He has some pet, some koi fish is what he has for pets. He's worked as a mechanic for the last 10 to 12 years. He went to K through 12 in Santa Cruz and he attended Central Coast College. Has an accounting certification. And when he's not working, he likes to hang out with friends and family, watch sports, or go to sporting events, camping and fishing. So please join me in welcoming all of our new employees. Thank you and welcome. All right, so up next is the introduction of our new City County Advocate to implement strategies to address UCSC growth plans, Morgan Bostick. Good afternoon, City Council Vice Mayor. My name is Justin Cummings, I'm the Mayor of Santa Cruz, and I would like to introduce Morgan Bostick, our new UCSC advocate. Morgan Bostick has a degree from UC Santa Cruz in Politics and Legal Studies. As an undergraduate, she was an intern for former Mayor Cynthia Chase and Councilmember Chris Crone. Miss Bostick has drafted policy for the Santa Cruz County Jail and Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office. And has worked on various local campaigns as a public policy research assistant. In 2018, Miss Bostick was awarded the Robert T. Matsui US Congressional Fellowship, through which she has worked as a legislative fellow for Congresswoman Barbara Lee in Washington DC. Upon graduating, Miss Bostick moved back to her hometown of Los Angeles to serve as council aide for city council member Mike Bonin, where she was the policy and services liaison for residents and neighborhoods of Venice Beach. And now she is back with us here in Santa Cruz to serve as our UCSC advocate, and so I would like to welcome Morgan Bostick. Okay, next is Parking for Hope Check presentation. So today I'm pleased to announce that the City of Santa Cruz in partnership with the Santa Cruz Downtown Association will be presenting Hope Services with the sixth annual check collected from our parking for Hope Holiday Program. For those who do not know, Hope Services is a Santa Cruz non-profit that provides training and support services to adults with developmental disabilities. In doing so, their crews have helped to keep our downtown streets clean and welcoming for over 20 years. The funds were collected from downtown meters the week before Christmas when the usual rates applied. However, all proceeds this eight day period were designated for donation to Hope Services. Over $182,000 in total has been collected for Hope Services over six years. This means that the total check collected in 2019 that is being donated to Hope Services today is $39,984. We welcome Hope Services team to the podium to accept this donation. Thank you all so much. Sorry, real quick, you too. So we'd like to, as a group, say thank you to the City of Santa Cruz for this funding and support. When told we'd be attending a city council meeting to receive a giant check, our crew felt appreciated and expressed their gratitude. Mark and Eric Brember who a lot in town know as the twins shared how much they appreciate working in the community. Tony said, let me say, we're cleaning up this town and I love it. Thank you, Santa Cruz, for helping me do that. Sarah, over here, said, thank you City of Santa Cruz for helping me have this job. And Cassie wanted to share her thoughts herself. Thank you for this job. Yeah, very much appreciate all that you do. So thank you. Next up, the Mayoral Proclamation declaring February as Black History Month in the City of Santa Cruz. And I just want to read a few lines from the proclamation. National Black History Month in February affords special opportunity to become more knowledgeable about black heritage and to honor the many black leaders who have contributed to the progress of our nation. The mission of the National Association for the Advancement of Color People, the NAACP. The nation's oldest, largest, and most widely recognized grassroots based civil rights organization found in 1909 is to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate race based discrimination. Whereas the Santa Cruz branch of the NAACP organizes annual community wide events such as Juneteenth, a Labor Day picnic, and events in recognition of Martin Luther King Jr., such as Youth Day, Gospel Night, and Martin Luther King marches. And whereas since 2018, the NAACP has co-sponsored the March for Dream in downtown Santa Cruz with the Santa Cruz Police Department. And whereas the Santa Cruz branch of the NAACP was founded circa 1949 to address local housing issues and continue to work for decades to promote throughout Santa Cruz County equal economic opportunity, criminal justice, environmental and climate justice, civic engagement and education, including awarding scholarships to high school students who are pursuing post-secondary educations. And whereas acknowledging and understanding the struggles for equal rights in the African-American community can strengthen the insight of all of our citizens regarding the issues of human rights. Great strides have been made in the crusade to eliminate barriers of equality for minority groups and the continuing struggle against racial discrimination and poverty. Now, therefore, I, Justin Cummings, Mayor of the City of Santa Cruz, do hereby proclaim the month of February 2020 as Santa Cruz NAACP Black History Month. And the City of Santa Cruz encourage all citizens to participate in community practices that ensure equality for everyone. And I wanted to present this award to one of the members of the NAACP who just walked in. And so I would like to ask them if they could approach the podium to receive this award. Thank you. On behalf of the Santa Cruz chapter of the NAACP, I'd like to say thank you. I also always add that I am a native, so this makes it even more special for me. I'm just going to take a minute here to read our mission statement just because it's this month. The mission of the NAACP is to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equal rights of all persons, and to eliminate racial hatred and racial discrimination. Thank you again. Thank you. And it's probably worth saying that NAACP, excuse me, and the university and the city, among others, were co-sponsors of the MLK Convocation last night at which you were a featured speaker. So it's a great partnership, great continuing program. Thank you for that comment. Okay, I have a few announcements to make, and then we'll move on to our regular meeting. Today's meeting is being broadcast live on community television, channel 25, and streaming on the city's website, cityofsantaacruz.com. Our rules of decorum are on the window ledge to my left, and it is my job to keep the meeting running without disruption. And we ask that you respect your fellow citizens when you're inside or outside our council chambers. I'd like to ask the council members if there are any statements of disqualification today. Hearing none, I would like to ask the clerk to announce any additions or deletions. It's noted on the agenda, but number 14 is removed, pulled by the department, and won't be discussed. Is it the Colvert, or was it the UV? Colvert, okay. Clarify, if I could. It's just to clarify on the agenda, it says the below item was pulled, but it's the above item. That's why the confusion, sorry. So you might have gotten the wrong agenda then, but yeah, it's number 14, the Colvert. Thank you. Okay, oral communications is an opportunity for members of the community to speak to us on items that are not on the agenda. Oral communications will begin on or around 7 p.m. I'd like to ask the city attorney to provide a report on closed session. Thank you, Mayor Cummings, members of the city council. This afternoon the council convened at 12 p.m. In the courtyard conference room to consider following closed session items. Item A, a conference with legal counsel concerning liability claims. The claim of Sybil Bay, previously Sybil Biddle. That is also listed as item 11 on your consent agenda this afternoon. Item B, concerned labor negotiations involving the following groups. The police officers association and firefighters local 1716. The former police officers association item is also listed as item 12 on your consent agenda. No reportable action then. Okay, thank you. I'd like to call on the city manager's report and provide updates on city events and business items. I don't have a report today. Okay, council meeting calendar. The council will review the meeting calendar, attach the agenda, and revise as necessary. I'd like to call on the clerk to provide any updates to the calendar. There are no updates. Moving on to consent agenda. First up is the consent agenda. These are items 5 through 16 on our agenda. All items will be acted upon in one motion unless an item is pulled by council member for further discussion. Are there any council members who would wish to pull any items? Council member Crone. Thank you, mayor. I've been requested by members of the public to pull item seven and item eight. Item seven and eight. Is there any other items that are to be pulled? Council member Myers? Vice mayor Myers? I'd like to pull number nine, please. And, okay. I just have questions on item 13, and I just have a comment on item six. Okay, then I have a question on item 10. Are there any members? Can I make a quick statement about the minutes that were just passed around before you get to that? Council member Brown brought up that there were a couple friendly amendments that she had accepted. So we included those, and then there was a duplicate line, essentially making it kind of confusing, you'll see the red lines in front of you, but. Okay, is there any member of the public that would like to speak on any of the items on our consent with the exception of items number seven, eight, nine, the report by council members, 13, you can approach the podium, and you'll have two minutes. 13. It's just a question on it, so. I have questions, we didn't pull it. Okay, good afternoon, council members. You're being asked on this agenda item to appropriate $80,000 to reinforce the levy bank. And just to tell you ahead of time, I'm not really expecting you to vote no on this, and I won't hold a grudge against any of you, if you do. But I want to place it in a broader context for a moment. Jesse Street March is a lagoon, a salt water lagoon, or it's a lagoon, it's freshwater, and salt water. And this, and in somewhere in the past, it was filled with a lot of landfill. So the south end of Jesse Street March is extraordinarily high compared to the rest of the March. And it acts as an impediment to any kind of salt water getting into the marsh. The natural flow would be into the marsh. Now, of course, it's blocked by the levy, and now it's called seepage, when it not a natural flow, but it's called seepage because it threatens the neighborhood. And it threatens the boardwalk. I have some questions whether this is an emergency at all considering the timing just before the tourist season. What I wish in my wildest dreams is that instead of spending $80,000 on this, that $80,000 would be used to remove the land flow, allow the ocean, the river water to flow into Jesse Street Lagoon. Because inevitably, that's what's going to happen with sea level rise. And that's the bigger context. This is good money following bad $80,000 down the drain. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any other member of the public that would like to speak on items with the exceptions of seven, eight, and nine on our consent agenda? Seeing none, I'll come back to council. We'll start with council member Watkins comment on item number six. I know I've reached out to the mayor also to express my interest in participating in the subcommittee and also appreciation for forming this conceptually. The thoughts that I had were to consider equity as it relates to women and minorities accessing the industry as well as the youth impacts and social norming. So as potential additions to some of the areas of focus that they'll be examining. That's appropriate. Okay, thank you. Moving on, we'll go to question on item number ten, which I had. One of the things that came up in the member of the public reached out and was wondering whether habitat for humanity could qualify for the Cal homes funding as part of the technical assistance for self-help housing projects. I wasn't sure if someone could comment on that from staff. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Jessica Meller, Management Analyst for Economic Development. So habitat, they are going to be submitting their own application. But we're not partnering at this time because they're focusing on their own application. Thank you. Moving on, there was a question, I think, by Vice Mayor Meyers on item number 13. No, I'm 13. Sorry. Did you pull nine? She pulled nine. Okay, so 13. Yeah, so this is, in part, my question is related to the comments made by Barbara River Woman just now. I guess I'm wondering, is somebody here who can talk about this? I think I saw, you are here, thank you. So it seems that the reason that we're wanting to do this, to buttress the levy, is that the water is seeping through onto the street. It's understandable, but is it in seeping through, if it's doing that, then how do we know it's not seeping in the marsh as well? Is there any way to measure seepage in the marsh first? It is, as Barbara suggests, it's a functioning ecosystem and it needs water to function properly. And so I'm just wondering if you could talk a little bit about what the danger is. And if we don't do something right now without looking at it further first. Yes, my name is Steve Wolfman. I'm a senior civil engineer in the Public Works Department. We're really just addressing the upper seepage that actually goes through the levy. We're not addressing any of the seepage that could get to Jesse Street Marsh. During this year, towards the end of the summer, we had the seepage showed up towards the bottom of the levy. And the Army Corps was quite concerned about the seepage in that. One of the issues with the levy itself is that seepage is collected and we don't want the seepage to bring soil with it and have a catastrophic failure of the levy. That's what this is addressing. So we're really buttressing the levy, strengthening it at that location, and collecting any water that does get through to put back into the river. For the elevation differences, I mean, we're really quite a bit above what could seep under the road to Jesse Street Marsh, that whatever seepage is happening there will continue to happen. And it does happen, we can see it. I'm not sure, what evidence, what test have you all done to see if there is actually seepage into the marsh and that this won't now preclude that seepage? Well, the reason it won't preclude it is because of the elevation difference between what we're trying to buttress the fill. We're not really trying to stop the seepage, we're going to collect it. But it's way above, it's above the road elevation. So the seepage that gets into the marsh would be below the road. And we're not, we're not putting a cut off wall to try to prevent that seepage from happening. So we're quite a bit above the Jesse Street Marsh, any Jesse Street Marsh seepage that could occur. And we have quite a strong letter from the Army Corps directing us to prevent this type of water movement from happening. I could also let you know that the levee itself already has seepage prevention within the levee. The levee was not built as a clay core levee that prevents the seepage. And we see it all the time throughout the city. On San Lorenzo Boulevard and over on the other side in the third street parking lot. So we see that seepage it's collected and it's put back into the river. I'll just say for the record, so-called seepage is good for the marsh. And somehow we have to reconcile that the needs of us humans along with a viable filtration system and a viable marsh. Because one of the low hanging fruit in the whole climate change mitigations is having, is investing in healthy viable marshes. Thank you, Mayor. Any further questions? Not a question, but I will just say there are a lot of people here in the audience and it hasn't been clear given all of the statements that have been made previously which are true. I think it's worth pointing out in the staff report that the Army Corps and city staff agreed that the seepage was an emergency situation that could potentially result in a levee breach or sediment transport of embankment material which could cause the levee to undergo rapid erosion and failure during the next high water event. So this is really a pretty profound public safety issue and we are under many requirements to work with the Army Corps on that levee. I think we understand the longer term issues here, but I just want to put that out because I think it's something that's part of the bigger picture here. Any other questions or comments from the council on this item? Yeah, I'm sorry. The bigger picture is a viable marsh and I'm glad that the folks for the next item on the Amamutin, I think they understand those issues between the conflicts between nature and the sort of human endeavors. And so that's what's happening and playing itself out here as well. And since Councilman Matthews made that comment, that's why I'm also making this comment. Any further comments or questions? Thank you very much. At this time, I'm looking for a motion on the remaining items on consent with the exception of items 7, 8, and 9. So move the consent and with the revised minutes as submitted. Second. We have a motion made by Vice Mayor Myers, seconded by Councilmember Cron. Just a question. Councilmember Watkins did make a few comments about the, was it item 6? And those were not part of a motion, I think. Right. But just accept it as. Recommendations? How do we do that in the minutes, if it's on consent? There was no action taken. There was no action, so we just take them, incorporate them into direction to staff. Okay. Thank you for that. Councilmember Wray. I also think it's fits with the initial directions we gave. I agree. It's in the record previously. Any further questions or comments on items that have not been pulled for consent? Seeing none. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. So we'll return to the items that were pulled on consent, starting with item number seven, which was pulled by Councilmember Crum. I know there's many members of the public wanting to speak on this item. And I'd like to go to the public, but other council members have statements, that's fine. Okay, questions. Are there any other questions by council members on item number seven at this time? Seeing none. We can go to the public for a public comment. I know that there was a representative, Chairman Lopez from the Amamutan Tribal Band, who requested four minutes. And so I'd like to invite Chairman Lopez up to the podium for four minutes. If any other members of the public would like to speak on item number seven, which is related to the protection of the Amamutan Tribal Band's sacred land of Urusak, I'd like to ask that you please line up to my left and you will have two minutes. Good afternoon, Honorable Council of Santa Cruz City. Thank you so much. I'm going to ask you to pause for one second. For those of you who are in the audience, you can't stand and block the people behind you, so thank you. And if you're holding signs up, please make sure that you're holding them low so that you're not blocking the people behind you. Thank you very much. Sorry to interrupt. Good afternoon, Honorable City Council of Santa Cruz, the City of Santa Cruz. Thank you so much for scheduling this hearing to consider the resolution regarding the protection of Urusak and the denial of the sand and gravel mining. My name is Valentin Lopez, and I am the Chairman of the Amamutan Tribal Band. And our tribe is comprised of the descendants of the indigenous peoples that were taken to Mission San Juan Batista and Mission Santa Cruz. People have been on these lands for 12, 14, 15,000 years or more. And if you think of that in terms of generations, or people have been here for 800, 900, perhaps 1,000 generations or more. Many of our members believe that we have been here since creation, and we do not argue with them. We believe it. Today, we're asking you to understand the importance of Urusak. And looking at it historically, I said our people have been here for 15,000 years. Our creation story tells us that creator very specifically picked our people to live on these lands and to take care of them. We did not look at ownership, our ancestors did not own this land. We realized that this land belongs to creator, and the land today, the homes that you own, you may think you have ownership, but truly they belong to creator. And one day, creator will show us all that. What we learned about the lands in those years is that the land is sacred. And it's our responsibility, all of our responsibility to maintain that sacredness of this land. This is my time up. What was that? Oh, okay. Doesn't say, I'd really blew it if it is, to maintain that sacredness of this land. And today we're being challenged to do that. In 2006, elders came to the tribe, and they said our creation story tells us it's our responsibility to take care of Mother Earth and all living things. We must find a way to get back to it. And how could we, and the federally unrecognized tribe, have been forced out of our territory? Because we cannot afford to live in these high priced areas. Our people did agriculture. And whenever the Silicon Valley and the San Benito and a lot of the other areas, when they transitioned from agriculture to industry to now the Silicon Valley, how could our people live there when they didn't read and write? And had limited skills other than agriculture. It was very difficult. At that time, many of our people had to leave and they went to Fresno, Hanford, Madera. But in 2006 they said we must find a way to come back. And so since that time, we've been working hard, we've been forming relationships and partnerships with Pinnacles, the National Park, California State Parks, the BLM and the Monument. I'm taking too long, I'm sorry. Eurostock is our most sacred site. Our culture, our spirituality, our environment, our humanity has been under attack. For generations and generations, we're asking that be turned around. And we're asking you to stand with us, for the protection of Eurostock. And to recognize that our spirituality and our culture must not be lost. As an unrecognized tribe, we are at risk, at risk of extinction. We feel the federal government, because of our unrecognized status, is waiting for us to either assimilate or to bleed out. We will not let that happen. We will be here until the last sunrise. We will take care of the lands and the air and the water for you and for all people. You'll have up to two minutes just to let you know. Yeah, two minutes, right. I was going to say a tribal representative gave me the daunting task of following Chairman Lopez. My name is Tony Rusimano. I'm here representing the Santa Cruz County Democratic Central Committee and the county's Democratic Party. Last August, the members of our committee voted unanimously to join with the Santa Clara County Democratic Party, in urging all relevant government agencies to deny permits to operate a proposed quarry at Eurostock. The Amamutzin Tribal Band of Kostanoen, Aloni Indians are the descendants of people who lived here for thousands of years, before being forcibly relocated and held by the mission system. Today, they are working to fulfill the responsibilities of their creation story to protect Eurostock, which is the location of known cultural resources and burial grounds. Specifically, we are opposed to plans to operate a cement quarry within Eurostock. It would threaten a Santa Cruz County wildlife corridor, and it would be located within a sensitive watershed of the Pajaro River. The passage of the proposed resolution would add a clear and strong voice in the city's continuing support of the Amamutzin Tribal Band. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you, speaker. Thank you. Before I begin, I would like to offer thanks to the land and to the Amamutzin for their loving stewardship and their refusal to surrender in the face of so many hardships. I'm Dora Shuey, a board member of the Santa Cruz ACLU. The ACLU recognizes the crimes and atrocities against Indigenous peoples for centuries and is supporting several bans in their legal efforts. Northern California ACLU staff are working with the Amamutzin so that their stewardship is recognized in the California legal and governmental systems and specifically in protecting Eurostock. The ACLU membership and many others in Santa Cruz would appreciate the city council's unanimous support of the resolution before you today. Thank you. First, I'd like to acknowledge Chairman Lopez for his courage and resilience to stand in the face of unimaginable circumstances. Reaching out to the United Nations for support to stop our community from committing this crime is sobering. We are in the unceded village of Uipi in the nation of Owaswas, now represented by the Amamutzin Tribal Band and you. My name is Greg Cotton. I'm one of the founding members of Friends of Eurostock, a multicultural ever-growing group that takes responsibility for our system that continues to deny Native peoples' rights and threatens to continue harm. I'm a local environmental researcher who has worked for years in the Pajaro River. This mine is very much a threat to an endangered watershed and endangered species. But this pales in comparison to the unimaginable and irreversible harm it would cause to human beings, both Native and non-Native. Our community has enjoyed an idyllic story of the colonization of this land that we now enjoy. Like the Southern Confederacy, we often omit the brutal part of our history and for obvious and uncomfortable reasons. We name streets and raise romanticized mission bells in our parks that celebrate this brutal history. We are now here today to stand together to turn this tide and transform the very heart of our and the foundation of our community and maybe even heal a little bit in the process. I'm moved and proud to be part of this community and showing up in a meaningful ways to correct the system of injustice. It can be the beginning of something truly extraordinary, a radical notion where Indigenous people are respected and celebrated for who they are. Great leaders, extraordinary artists, spiritual leaders, teachers, neighbors and human beings with spiritual rights. I urge the council to vote unanimously in support of the Amamutian Tribal Band. This is the future. Thank you for being leaders in it. I'll probably keep this short, Garrett, Philip. You know, I don't have an opinion actually about this property because it's far away. I know the details of it. It may well be a historic area that is worth preserving as an open land. I don't know. But I do know that what I see here is, I'll read a little of this, kind of some of this little too harsh, so I'll go over it. But again, we see the progressive Glover Cummings Crone trying to savage private property rights of U.S. citizens, this time four miles south of Gilroy, a real stretch of jurisdictional imagination. I'm assuming it is for political leftist virtuosity, grandstanding purposes, because otherwise it has no purpose or jurisdiction taking sides in this kind of a faraway dispute in the name of the city. Disputes are really handled by courts normally, you know, when it is sort of a dispute and not within your jurisdiction. Does it have anything to do with running the city? No. What is this supposed partnership with Amamutian Tribal Band? I'm not sure other than you both, the progressives anyway, and they share this victim oppressor ideology, you know, yeah. Okay, the sort of, excuse me, I'd just like to say to members of the public that everyone is invited to their own opinion, and we have to respect everyone's opinion within our community, so please, no booing, continue. Okay, I don't see any quid pro quo. I don't know what you get out of that partnership. Let's say it has no place in the agenda. It's more of the anti-developer, anti-economic activity, mistaken victim oppressor, knee-jerk progressive agenda, sticking its nose into a very faraway, none of your business business, taking sides and declaring a verdict that injustice has been done. It's not your legislative job to weigh in on disputes, even less far outside the city. That's what the courts are for. They can decide if that dirt is more sacred than property rights. Thanks. Next speaker. Hello. My name is Erica Sonevich, and I'm currently the conservation committee chair of the Sierra Club. I'd like to start by saying thank you so much to Val Lopez for your incredible leadership on this issue, and thank you to the city council for considering supporting your SAC. And like many people have mentioned before, your SAC is of extraordinary cultural and biological resources, and also is a source of the Pajaro River watershed. And so it's so important that we protect your SAC on so, so, so many levels. And so I am thanking you all for considering this resolution and urge you to please vote unanimously in support of it. Thank you. Ms. Mitrujish Kanrikat Amamutsan Nation. My name is Catherine Luna. I am a tribal member. I traveled here today from Fresno. I want to let you know that I live in an area where the land has been quarried. I want to let you know that there's days where our children cannot come outside, because the air is polluted. The air is bad. We have towers in the valley that tell us when the air is moderate, severe, when you don't see the stars. You smell today in the morning, I smell the scent of kerosene coming through my nose as I walked out the door. That's what you will be smelling when you see the traffic succumb to tearing down our sacred mountain. I'm coming to you in a basic way. I live in the area where they tore down our land, the land of the monos, the land of Chuchansi. This is our land, Horistak. You now live here. It is all our responsibility to take care of this sacred land, to understand that air pollution, water pollution, sound pollution is non-discriminatory. It'll affect you, or maybe it'll affect your generations after your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren, when they walk with asthma, lung diseases, or even may have one lung to breathe with. This is a serious condition of when somebody wants to desecrate not only sacred land, but to take the land down, take those watersheds, stop migration of water life, wildlife, plant life, finned, winged. It's a whole different story when you live it. Today I took the time, today I want to come back home, and I want to see our sacred land, Horistak, as it once was for all of our generations behind me, and all of our ancestors. Thank you. Thank you. You'll have two minutes. Thank you, everybody who spoke. I totally in agreement. It is our responsibility to take care of Mother Earth and all living things. We are at risk of extinction, actually all living things on the planet. And I'm just quoting some of this. This mine is a threat to all life. It needs to be stopped. And the previous speaker spoke about how we don't see the stars and pollution is non-discriminatory in thinking and protecting all living things. I have an article here of the honey bees plea. The honey bees plea. And it's about the bees dying from 5G technology, but also this happened over 100 years ago on Isle of White. The bees dying when Marconi put in a wireless communication system, and it changed all life. We need to stop the proliferation of wireless microwave technology everywhere. Every business, every city, every town, every place on the planet is being exposed to this existential threat. And we need you to do whatever you can. Stop the mine. Stop the wireless microwave assault. And I have other articles of the honey bees plea by Arthur Furstenberg of Cell Phone Task Force. So thank you for your time and very moved by the previous speakers here. Thank you so much. Yeah. Is there any other member of the public who would like to speak to us on item number seven? Okay. Seeing none, I'll move back to Council for Action Deliberation. Council Member Crum. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you all for coming, taking your time out of the day right now to be here with us. This is wonderful. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion and a resolution recognizing and supporting the Amamutsan Tribal Band in protecting their sacred lands of Heuristak from the developments of public or private entities and instruct the mayor to send a letter to Santa Clara County. And I just want to quote one thing from our resolution. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the City Council and the City of Santa Cruz supports the efforts of the Amamutsan Tribal Band to preserve Sergeant Ranch Heuristak as open space in perpetuity and to regain access to their cultural and spiritual sites at Heuristak. Second. So I just want to bring this back for a second. Council Member Crone, can you restate? I know that you just read that off, but I'm wondering if you could restate clearly what the motion is. And then if there's other comments we want to make after we've made the motion, I think that's appropriate. But just so for the purposes of minutes and clearly knowing what the motion is on the floor, can you? Okay, the motion on the floor is resolution recognizing and supporting the Amamutsan Tribal Band in protecting their sacred lands at Heuristak from the development by public or private entities. And we instruct the mayor to send a letter to Santa Clara County. Second. So a motion made by Council Member Crone, seconded by Council Member Glover. I noticed that Council Member Glover, you had your hand up and then Vice Mayor Myers, Council Member Mathews, and then Council Member Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I thank you for the motion. Council Member Crone. And thank you to everyone who came out today to address us on this issue. It's been something that I've been looking forward to for a while now and being able to have these conversations and have the force of the city, or at least the voice of the city, behind the Amamutsan Tribal Band, the Friends of Heuristak. The, you know, I went to the walk for Heuristak that took place down in the San Juan Batista area and participated in that action. It was not only powerful, but amazing to see the amount of support that exists for this movement and for the protection of the lands. And I just want to emphasize, because I know that there was at least one speaker that said that it didn't have anything to do with the city. And it's the concept that everything is interconnected, that I think we need to be emphasizing and taking into consideration with this resolution, is that what effects one affects all of us. And especially when it comes to the protection of sacred sites, but also in environmental sustainability and stewardship. If we lose access to watersheds or if we pollute watersheds, if we destroy migratory paths, it will impact not only the people in that immediate area, but as was said by the speaker from Fresno, will impact generations in perpetuity, potentially into the future, especially if we cause extinction events and so forth. So I'm proud to be able to be a part of this vote and we'll be supporting the motion. Vice Mayor Myers. Excuse me. I just wanted to thank everybody for coming today. I was fortunate enough to be part of a research team that actually studied the wildlife corridor aspect of the property for many years. And it is a linchpin piece of the earth that basically links all of the mountains in the Bay Area to the southern Big Sur and beyond. So for those in the public who may or may not know the specialness of this piece of land, from a biological perspective, it's incredibly, incredibly important and it does serve a critical piece of what our landscape in California actually functions through. So I just wanted to just thank you all for your efforts and your work is incredibly important and I certainly will be supporting the motion and I'm very pleased that you brought this all to our city and we are part of a bio region and we need to all be aware of the things that work together here to keep our communities in wellness. Thanks. Council Member Matthews. I'm happy to also add my support to the motion. I have I think a very friendly suggestion that is to add the word adopt to the very beginning. We adopt the resolution and then add the words and encourage the Tribal Council to share our resolution with others as they deem appropriate. And then I also, if that's a friendly amendment, that's better. That is a friendly amendment. Thank you. And I just want to point out I happen to see just pardon. Where are you putting that? At the end of the motion, just say and encourage the Tribal Council to share our resolution with others as appropriate. And I just want to point out magazine article I came across just a couple of weeks ago what stewardship looks like. It's a very descriptive insight and Val is the poster child about incorporating indigenous practices and peoples in a deep view of land stewardship of natural areas. So right in the scene that we're talking about. Thank you. I'll share this with Council later. Council Member Brown. I have just I just want to make a quick comment first to thank everybody who's come out today and all of you have been working so hard trying to raise awareness about this really critical issue. I think that we got a lot of letters of support and they were very moving and persuasive. I didn't need persuading. But I just want to read a couple of sentences from one friend. This is from Rua Bush. I don't know if I got that name right and I don't know if you are here. But it was really a beautiful letter. And so in addition to the kind of environmental wildlife public health issues, obviously that this project or proposed project raises. It's really critical that we recognize the critical foundation of this site as I'll suggest to the Amamutsan. They're U.S. citizens, Santa Clara and Santa Cruz County residents, members of our community, our neighbors, classmates, co-workers and friends. The construction of a gravel mine at Hura Stock would be a decisive blow to the continuity of Mutsan culture and curtail their ability to perform the rituals and ceremonies necessary for the functioning of their cosmology and community well-being. And so I'm really pleased to be here to support this resolution. And I would ask if the maker and seconder of the motion would accept one additional friendly amendment in addition to directing the mayor to send a letter to Santa Clara County, directing the mayor to also send issue a press release about our action today. Yes, thank you. Good idea. Accepted. That was a friendly amendment made by Council Member Brown, accepted by Council Members Cron and Glover as makers of the motion. Is there any other comments? I'll just briefly add on to what has already been said by my colleagues here. I want to thank those who came. I know Val, we tried to connect and I think there was some sort of incident over Highway 17 so it's really great to see this on our agenda. I'm happy to support this resolution moving forward and I'm pleased to hear of the amendments to express that beyond our city and into the public so hopefully we can get more support as well. Thank you. Well, I'd just like to say that I agree with all the Council Members who've expressed their sentiments today and want to thank you all again for showing up in such large numbers in support of this resolution. And I think that it was summed up very well when someone said that, to paraphrase, we might not all be from here but we all live here and we have a responsibility to protect our lands and to protect the sacred lands of the Indigenous communities who have been the original people of this area. So with that, is there any other questions or comments by Council Members? Okay, I'd like to all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Next up is item number eight on our Council Agenda which is the UCSC Grad Student Strike. Before this happens, maybe we'll take a couple minutes if there are individuals who are going to leave at this time, we'll give you the opportunity to exit the building and we'll reconvene in about, we'll give ourselves a five minute break. I try to connect with that part and there's an ad for the while. We'll do it. We will return items that are on consent moving forward to item number eight that was pulled by Council Member Crohn regarding UCSC Graduate Student Strike. Council Member Crohn. Thank you, Mayor. This is a very sort of timely issue too with the stuff that's going on, the strike that's going on right now in front of UCSC and we all know that something has to give here. We have a terrible housing, an affordable housing crisis in Santa Cruz and I'm really happy to bring this issue before this body especially because sometimes the city on a hill is a city on a hill and there's a lot of separation between the town and the gown and I think that the more we talk to each other instead of about each other, I think the better off will be. I would like to hear from some folks present who might like to address the Council so that's really, I don't have any, there's no motion that I would make yet. Are there any other questions or comments by members of the City Council? Seeing none, we'll open it up to public comment for two minutes. Those of you who would like to comment on item number eight related to UCSC Graduate Student Strike and UCSC, please line up to my left and you will have two minutes to speak. Thank you. Good afternoon. Several weeks ago I brought before you documentation about the University's housing prices, which were two to three times the rate of the in-town prices in Chancellor LaRueve's email to the community or to the UCSC community. She talked about housing affordability in town. The problem of housing affordability starts with UCSC on campus and the high in-town rents are because of UCSC's exorbitant prices. This week's City on the Hill, 711 empty beds on campus. Do you guys see the connection? It's because of the exorbitant rates on campus that create the demand for students to move off campus. So I'm sure the COLA would be great for the few graduate students who'd get it, but if you guys really want to have an impact, I mean, Measure M, you create 100 affordable units here, 100 market rate units here, that's nothing. University is projected to grow by 8,500 students. The only really impactful thing we can do as a city is to put pressure on UCSC to provide housing that's at least on par with this city. I mean, could you imagine, instead of being two to three times more expensive, and for those who didn't hear me, four-bedner apartment on campus more than $9,500 a month, that's not with food servers. Two-bedner apartment, almost $6,000 a month. So that's two to three times what the in-town rates are. What if they were one-third to one-half? Do you think that there'd be 711 empty beds on campus? No. I can tell you, as a landlord, rents would drop dramatically. So I urge you, if you're going to adopt this motion, to add a statement about UCSC's culpability in a demand that they lower their rent and provide adequate housing, adequate amount of housing on campus. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next speaker. Thank you, Council, for the opportunity to speak. My name is Sam Hughes. I'm a PhD candidate in the Social Psychology Department at University of California, Santa Cruz. I'm here today to provide some context regarding the situation that graduate students who are striking at UCSC are currently experiencing. Because of the cost of housing in Santa Cruz being so high and housing being so scarce, graduate students at UCSC have had to take extreme steps to afford living here. We regularly take out exorbitant student loans. Some graduate students participate in sex work or sell drugs in order to make ends meet. And some avoid reporting toxic mold for fear of losing their housing. Some have stayed in abusive relationships or resorted to living in their cars or garages. And many choose to skip meals in order to save money. Despite these challenges, many of us work up to 60 hours a week conducting groundbreaking research to benefit our city and community. We work to prevent environmental degradation, improve the quality of math education, work towards ending sexual violence, make pesticides safer, provide recommendations for addressing racial inequity, protect our community from the spread of coronavirus by mapping its genome, work towards improving treatments for cancer, keep mercury out of our food supply, and support formerly incarcerated students re-entering the educational system. Much of that is not paid for us, for our to work. Instead, we're paid wages that do not cover the basic cost of living in exchange for an additional 20 hours a week of teaching. For months, we asked the university to provide us with funding to help address the high cost of living in Santa Cruz. And so far, they have only offered a small amount on a needs basis, potentially punishing students who've taken on second jobs in order to stay afloat, who won't get access to that money, and preventing access to that funding for some of our most vulnerable students, international students that can't apply for that funding via FAFSA. Horrifyingly, last Friday, the university issued veiled threats to deport international students for participating in a strike. Even worse, the money that they're offering will be taken away as soon as the university provides more graduate housing, which is planned to be above market rates. Their offer is unreasonable and comes with severe punishments for graduates, students who are just striking to get their basic needs met. Excuse me, sir. Yep. Time's up. People shouldn't have to do sex work to earn a PhD. Thank you. Thank you very much. Just going to ask, I know you all were in line before. Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying if you all are going to stand, I'm going to ask that you stand over here and then come up one by one, rather than kind of all stand in front of everybody in the audience during this entire time. So go ahead. You'll have two minutes. Councilmembers, Mayor, thank you for your time. My name is Molly Hafer, and I am a politics undergraduate at UC Santa Cruz, and I'm here to talk on some of the opinions of the undergrads during this strike. As undergrads, a major part of our education comes from the hard work of our TAs and our graduate students. They pour so much into making sure we thrive in our classes, so it only makes sense they should be able to thrive in their home lives. In the end, housing situations have a dramatic impact on work performance. And if one branch of our student body hurts, we all hurt. Undergraduates and graduate students are together in this issue contrary to the administration's rhetoric. I'd rather have my fellow students be able to have food and shelter than know what my grades are. And that is all I have to say. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thanks, speaker. Thank you all. I'm Julia Sories. I'm a sixth year PhD student at UCSC and a Santa Cruz resident for the last five and a half years. In the time I've lived here, I've watched my friends and colleagues grow more and more desperate to meet rent. Between teaching, mentorship, research, and research, most of my colleagues work more than 60 hours a week but have no financial stability. There have been times where I did nothing but work from when I wake up and when I sleep for weeks. But still, we don't make enough to live without severe rent burden. Please stand with us, your graduate student neighbors. Everyone deserves a living wage. Thank you. Here, Phillip. The simple phrase is just stay out of it. You have no business weighing in on labor negotiations between employees and UCSC. UCSC has its obligations to negotiate on behalf of the public as it is a public institution with labor. Something you could all remind yourselves from time to time also about who you are supposed to represent and what American values of individual rights you should represent. Would you appreciate UCSC weighing in on your labor negotiations or anyone in the city appreciate your weighing in on their labor negotiations? That doesn't require an answer because I can answer for you as one who's supposedly you represent. No. You always represent all people, even taxpayers, with sound fiscal policy. You have no defining rod for price discovery that is none of your business or the governments in general really. You are attempting to interfere in a free market. For the work time required, graduate assistants get paid far above minimum wage, far above your own definition of a living wage. I think I calculated the starting wage at 27 an hour. It is a can be a part-time job. You don't live on a part-time job. This is essentially the usual leftist progressive brown comings go over consideration of the public as a cow to be milked again since the money to pay for this will come from the public. And it will probably also actually work its way into higher costs for students because there's no free lunch, you know. Anyway, maybe they deserve more, maybe less. That's up to them in UCSC to decide and exercise their individual rights to do so, not you. It's another exercise in leftist council members virtuosity signaling. Marxist victim oppressor collectivist priority endorsing. Sticking its nose where it doesn't belong. Possible political grandstanding and should not be here as an agenda item. The recall should come soon enough. I see some of you aren't paying attention. Oh, unbelievable. Never seen that before. Anyway, here's a little quote. Price discovery is not a sexy function of markets, but it is critical to the efficient allocation of scarce capital and resources and to the economy as a whole. Did you finish that one? Yep. Next speaker. Hello, my name is Yulia. I am a fourth year graduate student. I am also a striker. I am an international student who has faced veiled threats of deportation as a striker. I am also one of the organizers of the COLA campaign. I can report to heavy police presence on campus, policing peaceful protesters. There was one arrest and apart from violence and injuries that occurred in as a direct result of police enforcement, no injuries have happened. The strike is peaceful and all measures are in place to ensure public safety. We have strike captains. We have people who are ensuring safe passage of vehicles and people. We have throughout this campaign we've collected testimonies that prove that we are paid poverty wages and graduate students live in poverty. Graduate being a graduate student is a full-time job on top of being a teacher assistant or being a research assistant. And we ask that you intervene and stand on our behalf. Thank you. Any other member of the public who would like to speak to us on this item? Seeing none, I'll return to Council for Action and Deliberation. Council Member Glover and then Council Member Krum. Thank you very much. I'd like to make a motion to direct the Mayor to write to the University of California Santa Cruz Administration to acknowledge how difficult it is for UCSC graduate students to try to live in a community where the cost of rent far out strips their salaries, express the City of Santa Cruz, support for COLA for graduate students and request the cost of living adjustments and call for an immediate remedy and resolution. So a small change there from the main recommendation and that was to change the words from support the current strike to supporting the COLA for all students. I'll second that. If you would add, I think Mr. Grodberg makes a good point that in the Mayor's letter if he could also address the exorbitant rents that UCSC charges on campus. Accepted. Okay. So there was a motion made by Council Member Glover, seconded by Council Member Cron with a friendly amendment. Can you say specifically what that friendly amendment is because it didn't feel like that came out very clear? That the Mayor would include in your letter sentiment about the exorbitant rents that are charged on campus and those rents essentially setting the market in Santa Cruz because all landlords pay attention to that to the rate that they charge. Again, I'm just going to I'm trying to do this for clarity sake that if you're going to make a friendly amendment or if we're making motions that we state the language that the Mayor that the Mayor's letter address the exorbitant rents that UCSC charges on its campus housing. Period. Period. Period. Now if you'd like to I feel you wanted a conversation. If you'd like to make comments on after we make the motions and the friendly amendments it's fine to make comments but I think it's important that we clearly state what our motions and friendly amendments are so that the clerk is able to capture them and the public understands what the motion on the floor is. So and I accept that friendly amendment. So friendly amendment made by Council Member Crone accepted by Council Member Glover Council Member Matthews. I appreciate the modification in the language and am happy to support it as now proposed. And I just want to point out I'm not going to make part of the motion but point out we had an introduction at the beginning of our meeting this afternoon of Morgan who's been hired as the to staff the effort of the Measure U City County group to deal with the impacts of university growth. And this just makes it very clearly and one of the main directions of her work will be to connect with students and have them convey the impact of university growth on their student experience the quality of their student experience and certainly even the thousands of units that are proposed on campus now currently in the courts but even those don't deal with growth. So for those who are looking a little bit longer in the future and want to become involved with our advocate on that issue you're welcome to get in touch with me after the meeting and and I'll make sure that you are connected with Morgan. Thank you. Council Member Brown and then myself and then Council Member Glover. Just really quickly I'm pleased to support the motion and appreciate the language change. I did want to acknowledge that in addition to the the requests and and letters we've received from people in the community in support of this action we did receive a message from Chancellor Laverie and I did I just wanted to acknowledge that we received it we appreciate the efforts that that she's just talked about initiating and and believe that you know that's a good start but there's ways to go in order for graduate students to be able to you know survive in this community and I also want to just say this is not from my perspective this is not an attempt to interfere with their labor management negotiations. This is response to requests from members a desperate request from members of our community to support their struggle and so you know I just wanted to make those comments and say I'll be voting yes. I just wanted to I'll add Councilman McCrone to stack. I'd actually like to ask for a friendly amendment to the motion first I want to express that you know kind of as my colleagues have been stating you know this is Council's response to members of the public specifically graduate students who've been reaching out to us asking for our support with them and in no way are we trying to influence any kind of labor negotiation. That being said though having come to Santa Cruz as a grad student and not being far removed having only graduated back in 2013 I understand the struggles of grad students as far as how difficult it is to live in town off the stipends that grad students receive especially because housing costs have probably doubled since I left as a graduate student in 2013 and the salaries of graduate students have not seen that same amount of increase and so I totally feel for the grad students in this situation additionally since attending graduate school or beginning I should say in 2007 I have not ever heard of the type of force that's being used on campus ever before and so I would actually like to also as a friendly amendment ask that we encourage the UCSC reduces the amount of police presence of those being seen on campus. Here here I love I appreciate that taking it up a notch and I completely support that addition and amendment and it's an encouragement so you know I think that it's I as a seconder I also do too but and I understand that I think we've had sporadic conversations with our own police department in their involvement in the strike as well and I think they have sort of taken it down a notch because this is a UCSC issue and it's a problem I think that they've created and they can solve it too and just so the public is aware we received a letter from our police department yesterday they were not on campus yesterday and involved in any of the activities my understanding is today they were going to be on campus dealing with traffic related issues so I just wanted to make sure that it was clear from what my colleagues were stating that the Santa Cruz Police Department weren't involved in any of yesterday's activities so just to be clear Councilmember Glover and Vice Mayor Myers Chairman Brown Councilmember Watkins Thank you I think it was I don't mean to question do you mind I think it was Councilmember Crown after this Oh it was Yeah So two things one yeah just to reiterate what the mayor just mentioned we received correspondence from the police chief saying that he'll be instructing our SCPD staff not to participate in any of the I believe enforcement or the arrests that are going that could potentially take place on campus so we're trying to control it that way and I just was hoping that the clerk in the motion I may have forgot the word to support the COLA for all and also the cost of the adjustments and the campaign COLA for all I just wanted to make sure that that was included in there to emphasize the support for the campaign and the work that's going on there we good cool thank you Councilmember Crone I wanted to underscore what Councilmember Matthews was saying because for the first time the city has an advocate that we actually have staff that's going to work with the university between the city and the university and needs help from all of you as well as a lot of folks who are on campus and in making it really clear in Sacramento what the pressures are here because they're not really getting it there right now from our experience and that's what this person hopefully will be putting together research and interviews and taking it to those elected folks in Sacramento Mr. Mayor Myers I just want to thank the students who came out today and you know we obviously have limited we can certainly show support and are very supportive of what's happening with the students here living in Santa Cruz my ask of you today is to also hold us accountable we need to build more housing in Santa Cruz and so please come ask us to do that we have done a lot of work over the last couple years and we still have are not building housing so we you know that's one way to try to make your residents here in the time or maybe your permanent residents here while you you know figure out where what you're doing in the future but we have a housing emergency in our city and that needs to be part of also what what you need to be asking us to do is let's build some housing thank you councilmember brown took yourself off stack so councilmember Watkins sure I'll just I just wanted to echo what councilmember Cron acknowledged about councilmember Matthews comments in regards to having this person now here to help us work with the university and advocate for a better relationship and and moving forward for meeting our our city's needs and then also councilmember brown's comments in regards to hearing from the chancellor and how we as a city need to work with the university to be able to ensure that we have a sound partnership but recognizing that these needs impact our community and impact the university and and I think the students for being here I think also I'm kind of a maybe at a larger level it's disheartening to know that we haven't valued education to the point where we want to see higher education thrive and people be able to make that work because we have such a need to have brains in our in our nation leading the way and and it makes it really hard and it makes it really elite and so I just recognizing the struggle and knowing that that struggle is existing for many others as well I do wanted to get clear I wanted to get a little bit of clarification on the last friendly amendment and I sort of how I heard it or maybe understand it is more thinking about how we would encourage sort of more de-escalation escalation strategies as opposed to force is that reflective I don't know or maybe if you don't mind repeating what you had sure what I'd asked is that we encourage the chancellor to consider reducing the amount of police presence and additionally adding in force would be appropriate I just have been receiving numerous photos from students where they're showing on the order of 50 60 police officers who are on site I personally know of at least three people who have been struck by cops one of whom has a concussion the other who was struck in the abdomen and another who was pushed around and that's just three of other reports of the police using excessive force on the students who were on campus and so it's many of the students have reached out and they've said you know it's really intimidating that there's so many police officers is there anything the city can do I inform them that the city's police officers aren't up there but you know we could encourage that they you know minimize their presence or and also and additionally reduce the amount of force that they're using how about adding campus police just to clarify in the language that goes out does that sound legit campus police but also I know that there's there's reports of other police from other jurisdictions and highway patrol so I would say yeah campus police highway patrol I just want to say just for to help try to help clarify so the way so I I've been at on that end of a I'm not going to say the wrong end because there is no right end I believe of a police baton but you know having been there and as a graduate student at Berkeley what we learn and I and it happens at all the campuses is that regionally police force you know some police forces will come in and if their jurisdictions are willing to loan them out for these purposes then they'll come on to the university campuses so in this case it's highway patrol I think is the only other one but it there could be other local law enforcement I don't believe the sheriff's office has sent people up but so it can be so lot making it kind of law enforcement in general kind of covers whoever might I just have a maybe one more question is that something that chancellor impacts or who makes that call is that the I mean I I guess just for clarification on what that means my understanding it's the university the university yeah mm-hmm the word oh sorry it's a friendly amendment now UCSD campus police and California highway patrol I would say law enforcement I think the the appropriate would be participating in law enforcement yeah mm-hmm and then was that accepted as a friendly amendment yes yeah and I think the word that councilman why could use de-escalation I like that word I don't know if you can want to fit it in there at all or if or if you think it fits in your friendly amendment I put reduced I put reduced use of force that's okay sure or yeah and encourage de-escalation yeah I think that would be different things mm-hmm yeah I'd accept the and and mm-hmm and maybe probably de-escalation strategies yeah it's might as it maybe prioritize de-escalation strategies sure perfect there you go all right accepted reduce force and prioritize de-escalation strategies sounds like the final language all right councilman make one final comment on the campus the organizer for measure you campus growth advocate that's just been hired one of I mentioned she would be connecting among others with university groups with student groups and one of the strategies is well we we lobby to our local our state assembly and senators and they say well of course you're from Santa Cruz you know that's your issue but one of the objectives is to reach out to students where are you from are you from Central Valley are you from Southern California are you from wherever who are your elected officials in the state so that you as a graduate student and your family presumably say we're speaking to you as as your constituents statewide so that we that we broaden the awareness of the impact of campus growth on the student experience here in Santa Cruz to include students from the entire state so I just want to explain a little bit about the that's one of the strategies that she'll be following thank you for that comment all right and I'd just like to let the other council members know and the public know that I'm going to be personally meeting with the chancellor tomorrow to discuss city university relations so if there's anything I know this will be likely a topic of conversation and if there's other issues that anyone would like us me to bring up at that time that I'm going to be going there I'm going to be meeting with the chancellor one so okay seeing no more comments or questions sorry if we could can we get the motion read again oh sure just to make sure we're clear okay I have it broken down okay I don't have it combined sure direct the mayor to write to UCSC administration to acknowledge how difficult it is for UCSC graduate students to try to live in a community where the cost of rent are outstrips their salaries express support for a cola for graduate students the students request for a cost of living adjustment in the campaign cola for all and call for an immediate remedy and resolution friendly amendment that was accepted to include in the letter sentiments about rent exorbitant rent charges on campus and request that council encourage participating law enforcement agencies to reduce the amount of police presence in use of force and prioritize de-escalation strategies all right all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed the passes unanimously the last item we're just so council members are aware we're about five minutes over and we still have one item left on consent which is our city council policy 6.9 council request which was pulled by council by vice mayor Donna Myers and so I'll turn it over to vice mayor Myers I just wanted to state that I'm not going to support the the motion I think we've I think we from what I understand we've used this on two agenda reports and I feel like there was a lot of work gone into what looked to me like a pretty pretty viable process and I understand testing it out in the first couple couple of agenda reports is is always difficult I'm sure between the the agenda folks who were trying to to complete those reports as well as the staff but I feel like I just feel like we're we're just sort of sort of casting aside so I understand we'll have a subcommittee but I'm not going to support that I feel like we just we really are jumping the gun and not really testing this out in long enough period of time that's all thank you Are there any questions about council members council member Watkins I think I too would I too haven't had a chance to actually like try out by writing a report and using it so I think for me I prefer if I'm happy to be part of the subcommittee and I'm happy to look at how we can sort of base it on what's been sort of established but I'd like to fine tune it before just completely resending it personally and I'm wondering if there'd be potential for movement on that while the council looks at some of the challenges that may arise with it as it comes that you experienced in the first agenda reports but could likely go forward even further to then be informed as we look at a new strategy because for me I haven't had a chance to really see what is like substantially flawed about it you know what I mean so I'm wondering instead of just completely resending it if there would be a potential for discussion around having it temporarily in place for trial to understand how to fine tune and improve moving forward that's where Matthews I'm thinking along those same lines that perhaps the direction to go since there was a subcommittee that met and apparently agreed unanimously on it when it was brought to the council council approved unanimously the motion currently on the policy currently on the record the motion could be to revisit the current policy for clarification and streamlining and use the committee that's been suggested here to do that just to give us a chance to make it more workable without abandoning it and I think what was driving the motion that we recently adopted not the motion the policy we recently adopted that is currently before us that was a an effort to grapple with the kind of steady stream of major work products put before staff to accomplish in a fairly quick turnaround which I think most of us would agree has not been workable or satisfying so my preference would be to revisit and clarify the existing policy for streamlining and clarity Council Member Brown yeah I am I was reluctantly supported the policy when it came before us previously because of all of the work that had gone into it I did at the time believe it was overly complicated and could get us into some challenges around how it's interpreted and operationalized so I think at the moment my preference would be that we rescind the motion or the excuse me the policy and you you know use that as a basis for refinement I don't think we need to throw like we don't need to throw it out entirely but I'd prefer that we not be using it and encountering potentially more challenges I think just rewriting it making those revisions in the subcommittee and if I could ask the question Vice Mayor Myers does it are you not willing to serve on the committee in your opposition or because I'll you can I'll you can No, I'm willing to I'm willing to serve on the committee I'm just I'm I'm just expressing that I won't support the the rescinding and going back to the 1998 policy because I I just don't think we've tested out the new policies so thank you if it's not in favor of that portion of the motion any other comments by council members before we open up to the public for a public comment okay is there any member of the public who would like to comment on item number nine which is city council policy 6.9 council request okay if you would like to please line up to the left you'll have two minutes I'm assuming this is about getting items on the agenda I think that would have been nice if it had been clearly stated in the agenda today for the public and I find it telling that it is not the agenda has been an enormous political football and problem ever since the progressives achieved a so-called majority on city council which became effective in 2019 I will note that it has been so political that Santa Cruz Together which enunciated in its public meeting that Drew Glover was going to be a target of their recall which they were calling at the time a special election they perceived Drew as vulnerable and they were going to go after him and they were specifically going to go after him using the homeless issue because Drew they knew was an outstanding advocate for the most poor and homeless in our community interesting that we were able as progressives to get one big issue on the agenda and I'm sure Cynthia is going to try to counter this but I really hope that she does not because it was the only thing we were able to get on the agenda for the first three months that would really look toward helping the homeless and it was engineered in such a way that although we started with every potential available site that we could have a transitional encampment it got down to one which was Depot Park and it was cultivated to be an unfriendly community toward homeless and it was specifically used against Drew so to say that this issue is political which our members who are under attack cannot say because they are under attack I am saying this needs to be revisited it needs to be transparent and the public needs to be able to also have a saying what gets agendized thank you yeah next speaker I'll be brief I looked in the binder and I couldn't find information about what what the policy was in 1998 and I would have loved to have read it or made copies or taken pictures so I don't really know what the difference is that's all I'm stating thank you thank you all right good afternoon Scott Graham City of Berkeley has a rather extensive protocol for putting things on the agenda which I have sent to most of you I believe and I think that the group that's going going to look at the revision should possibly use the Berkeley agenda process as a template for revising this policy I mean you don't have to do it exactly the way Berkeley does but a lot of what's in there is very good and I would also like to see the agenda process opened up to the public to make it a public meeting that people can attend maybe not talk to you I mean it would be great if they could talk to you but you know the public the it's not a closed door issue I mean this is the workings of the government the people should be involved thank you all right I'm bringing back to City Council for excellent acceleration Council Member Matthews yes I'd like to move that and before I make my motion I'd just like to say that the policy that we now have before us which it was relatively recently adopted was a really good faith effort by the people that sat on that committee let's let's give them that and the effort was to give some structure to the issues of scheduling and workload and so forth so I just want to put that out there it was not a conspiracy it was a good faith effort to give more structure to the agenda setting process so with that statement I'm going to move that we direct a subcommittee consisting of Mayor Cummings Vice Mayor Myers and Council Member Watkins to revisit the City Council policy currently on the books with the idea of clarifying and streamlining it to make it more usable for both Council and staff I'll second the motion a motion made by Council Member Matthews seconded by Council Member Watkins Council Member Glover thank you I'd like to make a substitute motion a motion to revert Council Policy 6.9 Council requests to its November 17 1998 content send the policy back for further review and refinement by the subcommittee working on the process for new Council requests and adjust the subcommittee to include Mayor Cummings Vice Mayor Myers and Council Member Watkins second okay let's see I have a substitute motion made by Council Member Glover seconded by Council Member Brown any comments currently I'd just like to say that having been one of the members who worked on this policy it was pretty difficult being one of the people who brought an item with that new policy in place and it led to a lot of confusion a lot of I think that for staff and council members who were working on those items as a result there were some conflicts between what came out what was proposed to come out in those agenda items and I think it would be really useful if we as a committee work on an item together so that we can see what are some of the difficulties that we're going to encounter when we're actually putting an agenda item together because that was one of the steps that was not taken when we had actually put this together and so I am going to encourage that while we're still continuing to bring items forward that we do so within the spirit of the new policy but I think that having ourselves be bound while we're trying to refine a policy can become problematic potentially so just want to save that council member Watkins one of the as one of the members of the committee as well I I feel that after six months of trying to flesh out not only what will be manageable for understanding staff constraints I mean we have so many things we want to do and very limited resources so trying to manage that as it relates to priority setting but also in in relationship to the mayor's role and really looking for clarity on what gets on the agenda or doesn't get on the agenda what makes a threshold for an item that is urgent and needing to be placed on the agenda what is what a reasonable timeframe around agenda setting and agenda topics so for me having struggled with clarity and having sort of really felt that a lot of folks didn't necessarily feel there was transparency or clarity that's also what this this is about so I'm a little I support I'm happy to be part of the subcommittee but I won't support the substitute motion by just sort of throwing it all out at this time and not necessarily moving forward with not only a more consistent path for not only the staff but also for us as council members and for the mayor to understand the agenda setting and what makes it to the agenda onto the agenda any further comments okay so there's a substitute motion on the floor made by council member Glover seconded by council member brown to revert council policy 6.9 to its November 17 1998 content send the policy back for further review and refinement by the subcommittee working on the process for a new council request and adjust the subcommittee to include mayor Cummings vice mayor Meyers and council member Watkins okay council member brown I'm voting on whether or not to accept the substitute yes correct okay all those in favor please say aye aye all those opposed no okay so that motion passes with council member Glover crown brown mayor Cummings and it was opposed by vice mayor Meyers council member Watkins and council member Matthews and so now there's a motion on the floor to revert council policy 6.9 council requests to November 17 1998 content send the policy back for further review and refinement by the subcommittee working on the process for a new council request and adjust the subcommittee to include mayor Cummings vice mayor Meyers and council member Watkins there's no further discussion all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed no no all those with council member Glover crown brown and mayor Cummings voting in favor vice mayor Meyers council member Watkins and council member Matthews voting against okay I do have a question council member Matthews what do you anticipate as a timeline for this I think two out of the three of you have been through this partially already correct I would estimate that depending on when we'd be able to meet because I know that a lot of the subcommittees have been forming and a lot of these subcommittees are starting to move forward with their work that I could imagine this could potentially come back within the next three if not four months if not beforehand I would if I could comment hope beforehand because that's part of the problem we do have all these subcommittees there's just so much stuff boiling around right now and the question is at what form does it come forward what are the time expectations so and I think that it'll be great for the subcommittee to work at our first outset of kind of what needs to be addressed and then estimating what timeline we would need to get this back and and my final comment someone mentioned I think it was you that part of the and I wasn't part of the committee so I don't know but there there wasn't as full of a staff input into the process that was concocted as there might have been did I misunderstand that I think there was a misunderstanding we work closely with okay okay that was it yeah that's me and Mars I'll just state for the record that I'm ready to work on this starting next week so I'll be out of town for part of it but I think this is really important and I don't think we should wait three to four months to to try to remedy this like I I just think it's very important that we clarify this a lot of work was done on it let's let's just get to work and get it done appreciate it all right agreed great thank you very much and so that concludes that concludes our consent agenda items for today so next up on our agenda is our agenda is item number 17 general business the order will be a presentation of the item by staff for the council members who brought forward the item followed by questions from council we will then take public comment and then return to council for action deliberation the first item on general business today is the Harvey West Pool subcommittee report which will be presented by Tony Elliott director of parks and recreations all right good afternoon mayor and city council good news is we're sunsetting one subcommittee to make way for a new subcommittee here for the record Tony Elliott parks and recreation department and the a request for city council today is to accept the recommendation from the harvey west pool subcommittee to hire a consultant for feasibility analysis and to approve a budget adjustment to appropriate $50,000 from the park tax fund for that analysis so jumping right to that just to make it clear at the beginning and let's see Bonnie can I toggle from here all right so back in the fall of 2019 we reviewed the harvey west pool item with the city council and the city council directed staff to work with a subcommittee made up of city council members and parks and recreation commission members we met twice back in the the fall or in the winter to cover a number of things that I'll go to here in just a moment but I wanted to cover really quickly some of the figures that we shared with the city council back in the fall of 2019 in terms of the pool's current operations and budgetary impact and then what it would look like on a full-time basis so going back this is actually part of the fiscal year budget conversation with the city council we the city council directed staff at that time to look into options and costs related to operating the harvey west pool on a year-round basis so what we brought to the council was a follow-up from that direction almost a year ago was information on the current operation so the current operation is before you here we spend a net of just shy of a hundred thousand dollars per year based on the current operation that operation runs from March through March through October each year so it's a pretty limited format and Jim Booth swim school is our primary source of operating the harvey west pool so our expenses are pretty low but really our services are pretty low at the pool as it stands what council had asked us to look at originally was the cost of a year-round operation and so the net cost what we estimated would be about 1.2 million per year and we estimated on the high end that we could get up to a revenue of about four hundred thousand dollars per year so the net general fund impact annually would be just about eight hundred thousand dollars per year so just again just to bring those up to reference those figures that we reviewed just about a year ago so the subcommittee met again over the winter a couple times we had two different meetings in the first meeting we talked what I'll call the what and really that is what is the what is the vision what is the vision for the harvey west pool so we talked similar to the conversation we had with the city council last year and similar to the conversation we had with the parks and recreation commission really the what we talked about things like very low cost or free opportunities for for example all youth and Santa Cruz to be able to have swim lessons we talked about the pool as a place where families can gather and have picnics and and spend the day so that kind of that family sentiment and we talked about opportunities for classes and lap swimming and some of those things so really a lot of vision a lot of passion and fire came from the subcommittee both the commission and council side in terms of what could the pool be and that really is reflected in the parks and rec master plan as well the pool harvey west pool is identified as one of the top recreational options and amenities within the park system so the pool is highly favored by the community but the question of what what is that vision really took the the the precedent for the first or the priority for the first meeting that we had the second subcommittee meeting we talked about the how so we talked about the vision of what we wanted the pool to be and then we started to really get into okay how do we make that happen is the pool big enough currently is it ADA accessible do we have the proper technology and infrastructure to run the pool on a year-round basis and so we brought in parks and recreation staff in particular we brought in some of our folks from the central zone Blake Westner is our central zone park supervisor and Blake in a really great way very professionally brought us back down to earth he let us know what the the pool needs what it would cost and so it was a little bit of that reality check which was a good thing so currently currently the really the immediate needs at the pool if we were to open the pool on a year-round basis we would need to invest probably close to a half million dollars so based on the figures that we have at the moment that number is 452,000 that's before the council here so those are really the immediate maintenance needs that we would need to put into the pool immediately to to expand the operations from the current limited calendar to a year-round calendar this number represents the things that we know so there are some things that we realize that we don't know related to Harvey West pool there are a lot of ADA upgrades that we know that we need to make and we don't have costs associated with those yet we also know that the pool is losing water we don't know where that water is going exactly in the extent of that issue and so we know that we are losing water and so that could be another major cost related to the pool so with all of these things said the committee really it kind of boiled down to we have the reality of the condition of the pool but we also have this vision of where we want the pool to go and so what the committee recommended actually was perfectly consistent with what we have in the parks and recreation master plan and that is essentially to further study the pool study the feasibility study the business case and study the market so really to understand from our community what does the community want from a pool in terms of city services what are the competitors so to speak doing so what is what's happening at the Simpkins swim center what's happening around the community and what would it take to potentially build a new pool to expand if achieving the vision really is best sort of created by developing a new pool so the recommendation for the council today from the subcommittee made up again of council members and commission members is to to accept the recommendation to hire a consultant for feasibility analysis and to approve a budget adjustment of $50,000 from the park tax fund for that analysis and last thing I'll say I just want to be very clear had a couple of questions from the community we are not proposing that we shut down the pool or cease operations but what we will do I think if the council says today go ahead and hire this consultant with this funding we will keep the pool open and do everything that we can to keep it operating and running we don't necessarily need to put this $450,000 into it today but if we do operate it on a year-round basis a more expanded basis we do need to make these investments very soon we do have some other projects ongoing right now the heating system we've got an on-bill financing opportunity that we're taking advantage of right now to improve the heating and energy efficiency so there are things that we are doing so I just want to be clear that we're not proposing closing down the pool but we would like to further study it so with that I'll look to the subcommittee members to weigh in or happy to answer any questions right thank you very much do any of the subcommittee members want to start by speaking to this item yeah I'll just just want to thank Tony and the staff they brought forward a lot of really good analysis for us it was very obvious once we dug into some of the numbers and actually understood the level of repairs and replacement that was going to be needed plus the mystery of actually where the water is going that the facility is is really degraded from really just lack of any capital investment over the last 15-20 years so I think once we got a hold of those numbers we realized that we you know we wanted to potentially look at something that was maybe a little different than when we envisioned going in but I just want to thank the staff because that analysis I think really turned the tide in terms of how we thought about what we were going to do is what our recommendation was going to be so thanks Tony on to member Watkins I'll just sort of echo the comments that my colleague made and thank the staff as well as my colleagues here and our commissioners who chose to serve as well I think we all share love of this community resource it holds so much potential for our community and really wanting to see it move forward in a way that's informed and so coming from a place of like we want to get it done to like okay this is what we need to know in order to do it right for the future I think is a really a good place to be so I'm really encouraged by moving forward from that place and hope the council will support the recommendation yeah just really quickly I'll say it was a wonderful experience to participate in this process and the meetings in those conversations I really appreciate the commitment if anybody thinks anybody who's out there thinks that the pool is neglected we don't use it as much as we would like to it's not it certainly isn't it's not a reflection on how much we care about the pool and that became very clear to me in those meetings and talking with Blake so and I as one who is from time to time skeptical of funding consultants for ongoing for studies I would say that you know in this case I you know I was really persuaded that this is potentially a real a bridge to actually getting a much better program potentially a year-round program and I think that we have some real opportunities that a study like this can help kind of move us forward with so just thank you all and I hope to forward Council Member Matthews yeah this is I'm going to support the motion before us and I think everyone up here knows when the pool was drastically reduced in its use that was a result of the absolutely severe economic collapse and there has been interest in bringing it back to full city operation and more active more frequency of use and of course the operating expense for that is it's a big ticket and we understand that pretty much all our parks and rec facilities are subsidized to some extent or another but I am pleased particularly that we're looking at not just the market and what's our competition these days it's really important to have that in there but I do like the idea that we're looking at what are the short-term or more immediate basically repair or improvement needs is that correct the obvious and then the ADA currently unstudied and then the unknowns which we'll get into and then am I right in thinking that the study would also perhaps explore some improvements that would make it more competitive and usable for the future so it's not not just fixing up what we've got it's looking forward that's correct that's correct and then given all that and different scenarios for operation there would be different operational costs so we're talking capital and then operation which depends on what market we're serving so what do you what do you see as a timeline for bringing this back it's a great question we don't know yet we could follow up in terms of that timeline I think our hope in bringing this we talked a little bit about the timing of this and bring it back this time of year around the mid-year rather than with the full budget to hopefully get a head start on it so ideally if we could hire a consultant this spring into the summer that that perhaps by this fall leading into the next calendar year that we'll have a good idea of where we're headed into fiscal year 2022 and beyond okay that's realistic and I just want to say this is one more dramatic illustration of the needs of our capital are just valued community assets that have not been maintained and not been improved in decades and I really support knowing what this one will cost and what it can do for us and we got a lot of others out there too agree with that statement I had one question and I'm not sure if this is something that can be answered right now or maybe if this needs to return to council in the form of a memo but some members of the public had reached out and they were curious about the park tax fund and so what pays into that like so what pays into that fund how much money's in that fund currently and the purposes and use of that fund yeah just one second I just I gave something to Bonnie she could put it up right now and that would help us get a visual of it that perfect I'd sent a memo out to the city council as well prior to this meeting I don't know if everybody received it but a memo on the specific breakdown of the park tax and what that what that is how it's collected generally speaking it's an impact fee on development on residential development very similar to the quimby fee it's three dollars per square foot on essentially new residential development that's collected as part of the building permit process through the planning department the current breakdown is before the council here there's a little over a million dollars in the yeah FY 2020 adopted budget a lot of that we don't have the full the full scope of what is encumbered essentially here so there are a number of projects that are tied up or that those dollars are committed to existing projects so anyway I don't have that specific breakdown necessarily but this funds a whole range of things from from trail work to I'm kind of spitballing here off the cuff really any number of projects that are acquisition of land and improvement of a park asset those types of things so quimby quimby is a little bit more specific in terms of what that goes to but the park tax in the municipal code if I recall it's chapter five in the municipal code breaks it down very specifically and it's in that memo that I shared with the city council on what that can be appropriated to very much are there any other questions from council members at this time yeah I was wondering if you'd go farther up on that memo when where it's read oh I think that's a different piece of paper because I had a couple quick I mean I just wanted to go through the numbers with us because I don't I don't understand it since we had the opportunity to do that right now yeah that one now yeah yeah but you know when the park tax was started when was that passed by voters or was that something that even predates that it was passed by a city council at some point in the past you know I think it's it's been an existence ever since I've been with the city for over 23 years so it goes back yeah it's an essentially impact fee development impact fee and that's one we've had on the books for many many years and as Tony mentioned it gets collected what gets collected depends on development and what it pays for is specifically outlined in our code and it's just been an ongoing revenue source for the for the parks on a year-to-year basis and the council every year is part of your budget when you look at the cap funds are allocated from the park from that fund towards various park projects including the Quimby funds and then we we do a fund balance projection for all of our funds including this fund and that's in our budget documents every year as well so you can go back and look at that so it's accounted for on an annual basis in our budget and it's appropriated through the budget process like any other fund in the city and it says it's for the green belt 50% is for green belt and 50% is for equipment or something I mean that's for Quimby that's for Quimby and so if you like look at the 1.2 million ending fund balance 1.2 would that be part of your budget when you start out in June or when we approve the budget process or is that something like that supplemental that fills in gaps that come about during the year so yeah doesn't fill in gaps throughout the year again it's something that we have we have existing projects that are on the books that were approved as part of the fiscal year the current fiscal year budget and in fact we have projects that go back to the prior fiscal year that are still on the books that we're still working through and haven't fully expended those dollars but as we go into the new budget in the upcoming fiscal year budget in the coming months we'll go through a similar process where we will have a whole a whole number of capital improvement items some of which we will ask support from the city council for general fund dollars for those capital items and some will ask for park tax or quimby dollars but yeah again those are appropriated through the budget process each year or carried over as the projects continue forward big picture that fund so the the department parks and department has not to my recollection utilized any general fund capital improvement dollars over the past five years or maybe more so virtually all of our capital improvement dollars come from either quimby or the park facility tax fund park tax fund and so it's it's a limited pot a million dollars sounds like a big number but it's but pretty limited and really all of our capital investment and so we have approximately 60 million dollars in deferred maintenance in the parks and rec department and so that million dollars can go really quickly toward addressing very critical things so the pool is part of that overall discussion but one of many projects meeting potential funding and when you get the fifty five the fifty thousand you have to take it out of something else that's already it was already committed for or in law and the project just hadn't been started yet so we have fifty thousand dollars available that is not tied to a project currently so that's where we're asking supported the council to allow us to appropriate or appropriate that fifty thousand to be used for this use a big portion of or a portion of the overall park tax fund strategically we actually withhold to be ready for potential grant match so a lot of grants it might be an eighty twenty match so we actually hold a couple hundred thousand dollars up to a half million of that million to be ready for any grant opportunities that we can leverage those funds so some of that we withhold as sort of a reserve within that but fifty thousand can come out of the overall bucket thank you it's helpful to know thank you all right thank you very much is there any other council member who has questions at this time thank you very much Tony thank you is there any member of the public who would like to speak to us on this item if you'd like to please line up to the left and you will have two minutes hi Elise Cosby community organizer and also I was in recreation therapy in the mental health field when I started out started my career so I just want to say first of all thank you to Tony Elliott and the parks and rec people and others who did this analysis I really appreciate your work I also want to say that I am hoping that our vision for the for the pool will truly be a public vision inclusive of all classes and people in the public and I think we could have a really stupendous pool what's fantastic about that area is it is still although on the outer edges it's still in the downtown area and it could be quite accessible by bus right now the number four goes there and so I'm really supportive of the $50,000 for the consultant and as Sandy's said so many times consultants can truly be valuable I'd like to use a comparison here of Dave Seppos who was brought in to find if we could have a viable task force to address the rental crisis and the housing crisis and Santa Cruz and I think Dave was paid $40,000 for an excellent effort and I would like to ask that we have another consultant who is truly a advocate for the public interest and to make sure that that happens I would like to ask that the council make all potential possibilities in other words for all the consultants that are interested that we could also evaluate those people and the reason is this I have been to a city pool in Eugene, Oregon which I consider a splendid magnificent public pool it's clean it's beautiful it's family oriented it's also centrally located people can get there on the bus it's just a real asset to the community they provide showers for anybody who needs them for $0.50 a shower so it's a tremendous resource and I'd like for us to consider that as a way to get showers to the homeless population thank you thank you next speaker my good afternoon Margaret O'Shea resident of Santa Cruz on the west side and I attended a couple parks and recreation commission meetings and brought up even when it wasn't on the agenda about expanding the hours of Harvey West Pool so it's been an issue that I'm following I was very happy to see in the Santa Cruz Sentinel that it was on the agenda today so that's why I came while it was waiting I read the February 6th Harvey West Pool subcommittee report and so my comments are brief I'd like to say that a concern I continue to have is the limited hours when the pool is even open at all so I urge the council to make sure that that's included in the statement of work that if one of the options as presented in this February 6th report is continuing with the existing scope of operations March through October each year that that be looked at I won't turn around but I even want staff to know how valued this is that's why I came to this meeting I really appreciate that the department and the department leadership has continued to push for this I thank the committee the commission for looking at this but it is a problem the existing hours because Jim Booth swim school operates it I've even had a discussion with a staff member that there's been lack of communication sometimes between the department and the Jim Booth swim school about the hours so it's advertised as these are the pool hours turns out if you're swimming there you got to be out of the pool by a certain time because they're locking the gate at another time so so we need to kind of fairly advertise the swim hours are X which is like let's say the pool is open 12 to two in the summer for swimming on a Sunday turns out you need to be out of the pool by 130 or 145 and that's I've seen so many families really devastated you get there and you got to get out of the pool thank you so much thank you very much so any other member of the public who would like to speak to us on this item seeing none I'll bring it back to council for action deliberation council member brown yeah so I am ready to make to move the recommendation to accept the recommendation from the harby west pool subcommittee to hire consultant for a feasibility analysis and adopt a resolution to amend the fiscal year 2020 budget and appropriate funds in the amount of $50,000 from the park tax fund I'll second that all right so we have a motion made by council member brown seconded by council member Watkins I do have comments but I didn't want to I wanted to yeah that's yeah so I'll make comments whenever when it when you can put me on the so you can we'll follow up with council member brown council member Watkins vice mayor mires council member crown so I wanted to respond to the comment that was just made by Ms. O'Shea I'm wondering if I don't know that we would need to include an emotion but I'm wondering if we could follow up on that and try to figure out how to make it clear to the public because I could imagine taking some kids that would be a hard thing to pull them out if they're not aware that the hours are actually shorter than advertising yeah I appreciate her making that point and we'll look into it to make sure our hours are accurate as posted thank you council member Watkins I was just sort of going to similarly follow up with that having been there with the trying to find the time and the kids it is it isn't really conducive to families being able to access it and it is a short time and there is an abrupt end so the definitely the clarity in advertising and transparency but also the direction of trying to move to have the pool open more frequently is the intention behind where we hope to be that's Mary Marsh I think you skipped you're good okay council member Crowe what about the other issue that came up what's your thoughts on providing showers like that being part of the work of the consultant to think about having more showers there to provide you know to supplement what we provide now the homeless resources center and yeah I think I think all those are great questions in the context of what could this facility become in the parks and rec parks and rec master plan it even alludes to things like a like a fitness center health and wellness facilities so I think as the consultant goes through it we'd like for them to consider what all of those might look like what could really be incorporated and then how we operate that again from an operation standpoint I think that's the other question but yeah absolutely so you know further questions there's a motion on the floor by council member brown seconded by council member Watkins to to accept the recommendation from the harbury west pool subcommittee to hire a consultant for feasibility analysis and adopt a resolution to amend the fiscal year 2020 budget and appropriate funds in the amount of $50,000 from the park tax fund all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed the message unanimously thank you very much okay next item on our agenda item number 18 of general business is ordinance amending scm section scmc section 15.38 010 and section 15.38 030 regarding small cell wireless facilities this presentation will be by Joshua Spangrid senior civil engineer and stephanie hall deputy city attorney good afternoon mayor Cummings members of the city council I'm Joshua Spangrid senior civil engineer of public works so I don't have a presentation for you I think you guys have seen it a number of times right now so far I'm sure I could pull one up from the past if you guys are interested but basically what we have here are several minor adjustments to language from the last time the ordinance was proposed our city turn I'm going to turn this over to city attorney's office they're the ones who really did it my name is just on the report so hey thanks and I'll be filling in today for Stephanie hall deputy city attorney I'm tony kandadi city attorney this ordinance has somewhat of a circuitous legislative history going back to April of last year when the council introduced ordinance number 2019-06 which would take the city's wireless communications facilities regulations out of title 24 your zoning code and move them into title 15 which pertains to streets and highways a separate ordinance 2019-11 was then brought forward to incorporate wireless communication facilities into title 15 and that was introduced by the city council at your meeting on November 26th of 2019 also at that time were adopted regulations that implemented the ordinance as well as a resolution adopting a fee schedule for processing permits for wireless communications facilities the reason why I mentioned the circuitous legislative history is that when both ordinances came back for final adoption on December 10th the council expressed an interest in additional changes and rather than have a reintroduction of both ordinances or ordinance 2019-11 the council directed that those changes come back in a new ordinance and specifically the changes were to eliminate subsections subsection f of section 1538-010 regarding the purpose and intent the language that is proposed to be eliminated states that the purpose and intent is not to limit or prejudice any individual's ability to seek a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act or any other applicable federal or state law to the extent such requests are consistent with applicable FCC regulations and federal and state laws council directed that we return with an ordinance to eliminate that language as well as an amendment to subsection 030-B4 which states that the chapter shall not apply to facilities for small cell wireless facilities that are suspended whether embedded or attached on communication cables or lines that are strung between existing utility poles and compliance with applicable safety codes as to the reference to ADA accommodations that's already covered in your adopted regulations and as to the reference to small cell wireless facilities that are suspended on wires or cables those are prohibited in your regulations as well so this is really just a cleanup ordinance and I'm happy to answer any council member questions or comments Are there any questions at this time by council members? That's where I come You saw the email I sent to Barbachoy and her response and so that's been changed according to what you just said it sounds like Yeah I agree there's some I would say somewhat ambiguous language in the report as to what the staff's recommendation is but after we've discussed it with staff and internally in the city attorney's office we're comfortable with the proposed amendments as they're presented here Thanks There's no other questions I'll open it up to the public for public comment and if there are members of the community that would like to comment on this item I'd like to ask you please line up to my left and I'll invite up first Satya Orion from EMF Aware who reached out for extra time on behalf of that group and so you'll be given four minutes Thank you Mayor Cummings and Council so it sounds like you've done my work for me already you're recommending these to be deleted and I can just say and thank you for hearing me this was first item was submitted by me not something that was in the ordinance and so I'm just asking it be deleted and the second one I didn't felt just to give you a reason I felt uncomfortable with adding another of taking something that could be potentially added to the wires and saying that it wasn't covered under regulations so I'm happy that it's prohibited currently so thank you for that so I'd like to I want to take the opportunity to have one more request a small change but quite important one to the permit guidelines section of the ordinance section four public notification to G I realize it's not on the agenda today but I'm hoping it could be agendized for the next meeting this is regarding the submission of requests for reasonable accommodation under the ADA or other applicable law I'm at what I'd like to first ask for is that the five calendar day time limit be removed my feeling is that it does not allow adequate time for a person to submit such a request especially if you take into consideration weekends and holidays a five calendar day request could effectively become two business days very short time and I also another small inclusion that we also specifically say include content information for who a person would direct such a request to and I'm assuming public works what their name how to reach them I just I believe that honestly people will make these requests as quickly as possible but it just seems really important that we not that we just do everything possible to make that process as easy as possible easily accessible as possible and not create further access barriers which is what we're trying to eliminate by this I mean the I'm very very grateful that this is even included in the ordinance because it's what it's doing is it's providing a legal pathway for people to potentially stay in their homes who are extremely AMF sensitive and might have to leave otherwise so so I thank you and I and my request would be that thank you for hearing me say this today and that we could bring it back to the next meeting for a more thorough discussion of what would be reasonable considering all that I've said so thank you you'll have two minutes for this item thank you Nicholas Whitehead I want to address you on the larger picture of this very very controversial field of communications technology and the electrical emanations from that there are three areas of accepting your responsibility there's the political area yeah sure you want to help companies that are helping our society communicate naturally you want to do that you want to help consumers and that's probably the majority want these services then there's the legal situation you're in the apparent the authority to of the FCC to overrule any public health considerations is extremely dubious and I think this is going to be proven out historically so I'm addressing you on and asking you to look for look toward the historical developments that might occur but so that comes down to your ethical decision in any future allowances you make for these these technologies you really have to consider the future of public health not only information we have is reliable there are alternative sources of information there are an increasing bevy of speakers internationally and in the U.S. who can address accurately scientifically the public health effects of these high powered transmissions these particular frequencies and I think this this community deserves to hear from them and I would like that to be a publicly sponsored event rather than private groups having to always do that so please look ahead and consider these aspects thank you thank you next speaker good afternoon I really want to thank all of you for so many things but not so much with just blindly following this the existing technology can kind of be linked to every modern western ailment you just have to do the research you just have to ask the questions although it's interesting to hear all the various this and that it really doesn't mean anything it seems kind of unusual to me that the FCC guidelines were developed by Shrewman who came up with this number for a heated thermal effect of 10,000 when biological effects are known to happen excuse me 10 million biological known effects are said to happen between 6 and 200 at the beginning that's quite a cubed order of magnitude so I showed up to speak here about seven months ago 13 people in front of me didn't say what I thought needed to be said and now I can probably say it a little bit differently because I probably have thousand hours of research on this and other subjects in that seven months so there's not much we can do to stop this you know it's interesting I just read something the other day that you know people on airline flights are coming down with flu-like symptoms because of this fast internet service that's coming down from satellites and they're not sure what really to do but when they get off the plane and they get away from that stuff they feel better so there's a lot of synergynistic effects that are going on I kind of decided six months ago that I might as well work with the two ends of the bell curve that'll be the most affected and that's youth and teachers and law enforcement and emergency responders because there's so much information out about this and we're all already affected I mean we've known for over 100 years about these effects and so it's just kind of troubling because it's not making people healthier that's it thank you thank you next member of the public good afternoon Scott Graham part of my feeling on this is that this is a different technology than the current it's a different wavelength than the current cell phone towers admit and there hasn't really been much study on the effects on humans and on animals and insects of these cell towers and I'm not sure if you can legislate like how far apart they need to be because I know the companies want to put them really close together even though they claim they go a mile or further I mean they're advertising on TV that oh yeah these signals go a long ways but then they want to put them every 500 feet so I mean that makes absolutely no sense and you know and the need for it I mean we've already got 4G 5G from my understanding is the only real need for this is so that people can play these high intensity games on their phones right now they have some lag time if you want to play world of warcraft and so in order to play world of warcraft on your phone you need 5G and I mean do we really want to do that do we you know right now I see babies playing with cell phones and it's like we don't know what the effects of somebody giving a baby a cell phone and that kid becoming addicted to the cell phone I mean there's most people are addicted to them already but to be addicted to them from being a one-year-old for the rest of your life we don't know what the effects that's going to have on people and that's absurd that the federal government doesn't allow us to check that out and I think the city should enjoy every lawsuit out there against 5G thank you thank you sir any other member of the public that would like to speak to us on this item no all right you'll be our last speaker I too just want to posit that I really I really feel that since I saw this ordinance being affected the first time that it seemed like it was kind of out of our hands that the federal government if I'm recollecting them correctly wasn't going to let cities refuse the service if we can call it that and I think that you know we have to so I really wish that more people would speak on this we we're out of crossroads in terms of human civilization and we cannot ignore the horrible horrible health impacts and I have to disagree with Scott my understanding is that there have been some excellent studies done on the unhealthiness of 5G and there are countries that will not allow it to be put in their country because they understand the health risk and they will not allow their public to be exposed to that kind of danger and harm and so you know I I kind of see our city council's hands are somewhat tied here but I also feel like you know I loved it when Nancy Pelosi ripped up Trump's speech the other day because she needed to make a statement whether you agree with that or not as a Democrat I feel like it was somewhat disingenuous because the Democrats were responsible for getting us to Trump but on the other hand at least she was making some kind of a statement that you know he is subverting our constitution and again here I feel that the city really needs to make a statement that that on some level you all need to defend our public health thank you all right I'd like to bring it back to council for action deliberation I differ council member brown hi thank you all for those of you have come and spoken thank you to AMF aware and Satya Ryan for really sticking and hanging in there and getting us to this place I've opined on the limitations of what local government can do in this arena I think there is a growing body of data on the the public health impacts that you know we'll be hearing more about and we need to take very seriously and I have no doubt this will be an ongoing point of discussion here in Santa Cruz and that EMF aware will keep us updated about ways that we can participate in future litigation we've already directed that of our staff and so I think that'll continue and so right now I'd like to move the recommendation that we introduce for publication an ordinance amending section 15.38.010 it's the staff it's the recommendation here so amending the ordinance with the red lines that were included in our agenda packet as on a first reading so we have a motion made by councilmember Brown seconded by councilmember Matthews to accept the staff recommendation is there any further discussion on this item at this time seeing none all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed that passes unanimously okay the next item on our agenda is item number 19 of general business which is the beach flat impact fund the presenters will be council member Glover mayor Cummings and council member Crone so I will pass this over to councilmember Glover thank you mayor just going out if we wouldn't mind giving just a moment for the presentation but that's the case maybe we can take a three-minute break and we'll come back at two sixteen thank you sorry three sixteen are we on time so far I'm despair all right I guess we'll bring this back since we have quorum wonderful oh great great thank you mayor and to my fellow colleagues hello I'm councilmember Drew Glover and it's my pleasure today to talk to you about the idea of the implementation of a beach flats impact fund so to provide a little bit of background with regards to the impetus behind this in December or January we were approached by representatives of the beach flats community neighborhood and organizations serving the beach flats community to address the impacts felt by the lowest income neighborhood in the city of Santa Cruz caused by the operation specifically of the boardwalk during summer months so I'll first start by just kind of breaking down what is a benefit district because it's essentially what we would be creating as a parking benefit district we're referring to it as an impact fund because we want to acknowledge the impact that the beach flats experiences from the boardwalk but a parking benefit district or pvd are defined geographic areas typically in downtowns or along commercial corridors in which any revenue generated from on street and off street parking facilities within the district is returned to the district to finance neighborhood improvements there are successful examples of this that can be seen around the country I distributed a document to my colleagues just a moment ago that focuses on the LA Metro example which I'll refer to a little bit later but it's a great tool to be used to generate additional revenue and to support impacted neighborhoods so why implement an impact fund well there are these three primary reasons of things that we can look towards which is the ability to provide necessary improvements of social services and communities fund the community's most impacted by some of the different commercial activity that's happening in a city and implement and create community projects all to address some of the issues during the summer months specifically in the neighborhood of the beach flats it's inundated by attendees from the boardwalk who essentially overwhelm the area this increased attendance results in increased exposure to co2 emissions noise trash traffic and wear and tear on the 21 acre neighborhood all of which negatively impact the quiet enjoyment and the use for the residents some examples are road and drainage degradation in accessibility to parking and a feeling of essentially being trapped in your own neighborhood just to provide some context as to the beach flats and some of the stuff that they're dealing with down there even with the cost of housing is the survey that was done in 2016 by no place like home which looked at the rents of rate burden situations overcrowding and housing as well as forced evictions and not only of the 435 renters that were surveyed along beach flats and lower ocean talking about being rent burden 73% experience being rent burdened in the beach flats and lower ocean neighborhood but people from the Latinx community reported back at about 80% of that population being rent burdened looking at the issues of forced eviction especially for families with children was about 46% and Latinx families at 52% so not only with regards to beautification topics but we'll also be talking about other ways that the impact fund can be used to prevent homelessness and also support affordable housing development so here I just want to take a second to illustrate kind of the general proposed area of the map of the benefit district of the benefit district itself now this map doesn't extend all the way to the the wharf but the proposed streets can give you an idea of the volume of meters you can kind of see them I don't know if you can see them from here but if you look behind you the little yellow dots that represent the different meter locations these would be included in the benefit district but could include beach street potentially from the wharf to the boardwalk down past the boardwalk with this curve that you see here up onto third avenue and then down Raymond LeBrant second avenue and first street which continues over if the image were to continue to the left past that large parking parking lot over to essentially the boardwalk bowl so how would it work these are some preliminary estimates based off of some of the numbers that were given to us by staff of the overall parking revenue that is generated from that specific district looking at the meters in question now the way we got these numbers was this is an underestimate let me emphasize that of the amount of revenue that can be generated to go into this impact fund because the way that we calculated this was just taking the overall projected revenue for fiscal year 20 dividing it by four essentially to get the months of the year which is June through September and then looking at a 15% annual increase over the next three years to generate these numbers now I say that this is an underestimate because we didn't calculate that there would be an influx of the parking during those months which is where a substantial amount of that overall estimated revenue would be coming from the reason why we have it structured this way is because the parking that's surrounding the boardwalk is regulated by the coastal commission so the city is able to do small annual increases that do not exceed 25% annually or 50% over three years which would then require an approval by the coastal commission so if we were to look at say a proposed increase of 15% annually then within the first year based off of the projections for fiscal year 20 we would see $16,000 coming into the fund the next year in year two with 30% would be $36,000 coming into the fund and finally in the year three of the pilot phase essentially of the impact fund it would generate approximately $60,000, $61,000 for that third year for a total estimated revenue of $113,098 roughly that could be allocated towards programs and projects in the Beach Flats community without having to get approval from the parking or the excuse me the coastal commission so what did the projects look like so there are three primary areas outlined in the agenda report specifically that would be looked at and this is after talking with representatives from organizations serving the Beach Flats community and the needs that are associated there from their observations and the work that they've been doing and so the first is social support and service programs housing development and protections and then infrastructure and beautification projects of both the streets and of their parks the impact fund is envisioned to support work geared towards creating affordable housing development supporting social programs and services which could include free legal clinics supporting tenants rights after school youth programming counseling community resource centers services helping to reduce homelessness supporting the Beach Flats garden increasing access to quality healthy foods and providing funding and for increased access to community resources such as healthcare for the lower ocean and Beach Flats neighborhood but also infrastructure repairs like roads parks beautifications and drainage solutions which have all been an issue in that surrounding community and the projects will be created for the community and this is where I will turn you to the Metro document that I shared with you because it gives a really great kind of breakdown of what LA has already done with some of these benefit districts or impact funds which and I quote from the piece are used to make various improvements such as street sweeping tree planting and trimming sidewalk and street repairs street lighting graffiti removal historic preservation putting utility wires underground and also which is not mentioned specifically but I think is something that is relevant to the Beach Flats and parking access is to be able to offer parking permits to all neighbors in that area so that they can have security in their parking the way that it could be structured and this is something that we'll get to when we get to the recommendation is developing the benefit district through the involvement of key stakeholders businesses developers landowners but especially the organizations and the community members serving and living in that community to help figure out what the process could be to develop the rules of the parking district and also taking the initiative steps to work collaboratively excuse me to create shared goals and objectives to create an overall plan for the parking district but then just as importantly is figuring out the way in which to develop the granting process of those funds to programs to ensure that they are serving that community directly and are not being siphoned out of that fund for outside projects and outside areas so the idea with the gender report specifically as you can see with the recommendation which I'll repeat in just a second is to work or direct staff essentially to work to create a proposal that would come back to council for review by April 2020 so that then we could have an in-depth kind of process engaging the community as well as different stakeholders to have those conversations and come back with a plan that council can review and then ideally approve so the recommendation here is to for a motion to direct staff to work with cosigning council members community bridges and other interested community partners to develop the policy framework feasibility and implementation plan to establish a Beats Flats impact fund through parking meter revenue and return to council with analysis results and action plan no later than April 2020 it's really a conversation of equity and making sure that those that are impacted by the tourism that we experience in the community are having money essentially put back into their community not only to help with mitigating climate change to address the issue of co2 emissions but also to make sure that they're living and thriving in a community that's well served so thank you very much councilmember crown do you want to comment on this at all just to reiterate councilmember Glover's earlier statement about the impacts on the beach flats neighborhood that that go on every summer when it's really intense and and I'm really glad to be part of this bringing this forward to address and hopefully alleviate and improve that part of the community I'll just say thank you for the presentation and for kind of summarizing many of our sentiments as the members of the city council we're bringing this forward I'd also like to say that you know one of the reasons why I'm very much in favor of this item is because as a resident of the beach flats community I understand how it is to be directly impacted by the traffic during the summer often times as councilmember Glover said earlier in his presentation from members who live in that community you can sometimes feel like you're imprisoned in your community during high levels of traffic so often times if you were planning on driving and you leave between the hours of around 10 30 and you know four or five p.m. sometimes it can take you often up to an hour to an hour and a half even to get out of the community or to get back into the community and so often times we find ourselves parking outside of the community and walking back in having to go back later on to get our vehicles because we just can't simply have access the community and so I think that it's important that as a community that it's probably the most impacted by summer traffic that we try to do something to give back to that community and really support the people who live in that area are there any other questions by council members currently at this point in time is their staff comment anticipated on this or not I do so this plan and timeline was constructed in collaboration with the city manager's office so they are aware of all of the proposals and content of the agenda report in the timeline also sure you go ahead if you have something to add to that I was going to add to that I think that in the spirit of the council policy that was adopted one of the reasons why we brought this forward in this manner is because it's an opportunity before we you know kind of begin working with staff that we bring these ideas forward and then we bring it to council to see if this is something that council would be interested in having staff work on and then we kind of develop this process working with staff and stakeholders in the community on this item I have been contacted by staff who've mentioned that they would very much like to be involved with this should it move forward this morning I was also contacted by the seaside company who said they weren't in opposition but they would like to also be involved in this and so I think that the intent is that if we're moving this forward we then begin to have communication and conversations with these different stakeholders and we figure out a process in order to be able to bring this forward because I also as someone who's signing on to this have some concerns around rates who's going to be affected what are the zones what are the meters and so I think that there's a lot of work to be done but we wanted to bring this forward because we can't really bring it forward otherwise without getting council's approval I appreciate those comments and as proposed here I completely appreciate the the issues the underlying issues that this proposal raises and and tries to deal with it seems to me that as proposed it's very limited in both the mechanisms for dealing with those and it more significantly to me ignores a huge amount of work that's already been done and is in the pipeline and particularly and I don't know how much the newer council members know about this the neighborhood revitalization strategy area which encompasses this area we are we have invested a lot have developed a lot of plans over time with stakeholders programs are in action I think it's through economic development and it might be helpful I don't know other council members would like to have a brief description but it occurs to me also there's so much involving many departments the climate action parks and public works that and of course our housing programs that are very much focused on the the elevated issues in the beach beach flats and lower ocean and south of Laurel I mean that's it's kind of a larger area there so my own preference would be to acknowledge the council's interest in this but to step back and have some kind of a a staff maybe a council member to working with it but a a summary of where we are in terms of the funding mechanisms in place the the projects in place and and take a look at that before we leap into one funding mechanism which is the parking fund and a rather limited number of parties consulted so that's a long sense but I think it's an overreach and frankly totally unrealistic timeline to think that this is going to come back in April we're walking I'm going to wait till the comment section because I think this is the question section right yeah was it comment no no questions sorry I'll reserve my comments but I but I do want to just express my excitement for the interest in this I think as we think about health and all policies equity sustainability and public health this is really aligned with those values I see health and all policies as sort of the the framework that's this broader theory that's sort of designing how we think about that with our policy making the implementation could look something like how are we looking at it in specific areas and applying it to different decisions so I just want to acknowledge that nexus I would love to hear from the staff in regards to some of the work that's already happening I know that Tiffany Wise West is doing a lot of work in the beach flats in terms of climate change and sustainability and resilient coasts and access and and doing a lot of outreach in that regard so I don't know if if she wants to speak a little bit about some of the work but I do want to I guess the broader interest is understanding sort of that holistic picture and how this fits within that and how are we going to move forward in a way that's really informed and inclusive in terms of community outreach and programming and planning and ensure an impact fund I hadn't heard of that before could be a piece of that puzzle once I know more about it and as Council Member Matthews mentioned and what is true about the health and all policies framework is as we think about all of the strings that we pull to influence decisions whether it be parks and rec decisions or transportation or anything beyond you know roads and sidewalks and all of those different types of priority areas that that is the holistic way that we can look at how we're going to serve our areas and our communities so I do think it's one potential component of something a lot broader for a community or for a specific area in our community and then also just sort of understanding are there any sort of opportunity costs or unintended impacts I don't know that much I appreciate the information that was shared in regards to the parking benefit districts I hadn't heard of those before but just sort of trying to really get a fluid thing so I don't know if Susie or Tiffany or others are who are here want to weigh in on any of the kind of areas that I brought up Sure. Hello Council Members Tiffany Wise about sustainability and climate action manager I really appreciated the fact that the social vulnerability to climate change assessment was referenced in the staff report and I think as you all know the Beach Flash residents are already experiencing the impacts of climate change and that will continue to increase over time through the Resilient Coast Initiative which is about halfway through we have Vice Mayor Myers and Mayor Cummings that are both on the Technical Advisory Committee for that that project is really a community driven data driven process where we are trying to work with the community to identify climate adaptation measures for the Beach Flats area and the accompanying financing that needs to come with that so clearly coordination with this effort would would be appreciated and and could potentially improve the base of knowledge that you're working from we have conducted over 125 door to door interviews in the Beach Flats several community meetings including one coming up on March 7th so that's a little bit of background on what we're doing and looking at both short medium and long-term solutions what are the triggers for those and what are the financing mechanisms that are available thank you thank you Council Member Watkins and the rest of the Council Susie O'Hara Assistant to the City Manager it was really our pleasure to work with Council Member Gleaver on this project and you know as we began to peel away the layers of the onion the complexity you know with the Coastal Commission approval that was kind of the first you know question we had in terms of what are those thresholds but each time we kind of looked a little bit deeper at potential revenue that we would be looking at with regard to this project the intricacies of the meters actually the physical meters down there and what we have the capability of doing the costs associated with that in addition to what is currently happening with regard to Tiffany's work there really is a need to look much deeper at that so you know to look at the motion and understand kind of having that analytical period ahead of us really being data driven is is much appreciated to get to Council Member Matthew's point it might take a little longer than what we're expecting so I think we should have a conversation really early about you know as we continue to look into those different layers of the analysis of it if it is more complicated than than we're thinking but nearly every department is impacted in some way and I know through conversations with Tiffany there's so many things that she's currently thinking about in terms of infrastructure one opportunity costs that we do need to think about as a city is you know will this revenue source enhance and support that or is it potentially going into different directions that we you know that we might already be thinking about so much work moving ahead on this but generally speaking you know definitely appreciated taking the time and getting a little bit more deep into the analysis I know the staff members who might want to speak to this referencing council member Matthews concern or the questions she brought up good afternoon mayor members of the council Bonnie Lipscomb director of economic development I just wanted to weigh in because we do have a process going on right now for our consolidated plan and just a little bit as way of background our consolidated plan is a five-year planning process that we do that enables us to allocate CDBG and home funding in our communities and through that process and we're in that process now and so we've been doing series of outreach meetings but the beach flats area is part of a neighborhood revitalization strategy area specifically that enables us to prioritize CDBG and home funds and so we have a whole plan and we do it every five years so we have a series of them and they're all accessible through our website and you can look at that process and our outreach and in fact we just conducted outreach with the help and assistance in the way of Avista into this area and received close to a thousand responses which is great so we'll be coming to you in March with a draft of the plan and the priority areas as well as again in April and then some of those decisions will be included with recommendations related to CDBG allocations for the next year's budget so there is a lot of information about planning and process and I'm encouraged with the priority areas as well I think that reflects on a lot of the priority areas that are in the consolidated plan and in this NRSA but I will say that the area that's been identified through the NRSA the neighborhood revitalization strategy area is a little bit larger than just the beach flats includes lower ocean it goes up a little bit to Cathcart south of Laurel it's looking at geographic areas so it's not exactly the same area as this so it would be great to look at both plans and to see if if there's some alignment there so there is a lot of work that's been done to date I think it makes sense to look at these together it's definitely one of the priority areas in the city thank you yeah Mark Dettel director of public works as the department that collects the parking revenue I would just say obviously that area is greatly impacted no doubt in the summer time this increase is not going to affect the parking availability in that location it won't change that it will bring in revenue that you can use it is general fund revenue just so you know that it's not parking district revenue that area goes to the general fund there will there may be an unintended consequence though by increasing the rates on the meters more people are going to park on the wharf and that's already an issue for the wharf merchants that they have beach goers parking on the wharf and so they're going to be asking to raise those rates as well just that you you know that that's always a struggle they don't have parking for their customers so there's a parking shortage in the beach area there's no doubt but the other I guess the other thing I would say is it can clearly be done the timeline looks short to me just because of the coordination and other work that our staff is currently working on but we're happy to work and support the item if that's what council chooses council member Myers this is why you're there Mark can you I'm not sure that I know exactly how a parking district would get formed is that I know you can do by ordinance but beyond outreach and I mean do we have is there there's not a vote or anything like that then yeah that would have to be research I'm to be honest with that I couldn't give that off the top or maybe Martín can do that but there are different ways to do that yeah I just I'm just yeah there are benefits assessment assessment districts that can be formed and we've actually looked at one for the beach area in the past and we've had some in other parts of the city there was one in Harvey West for example that are created around different objectives that the neighborhood wants to to implement largely they've been around infrastructure but there is a community assessment or benefit assessment district formation process that exists as well it's completely separate and different than parking revenues it'll be creating like its own district and it would generate revenue from the properties basically and so there so I know in California well there's lots of different ways to create districts related yes yes those just typically housing and economic development all those things these typically require the property owners to elect to participate in the district so there's a formation an election process that goes with that I don't have it at the top of my head exactly what it is but it's it's a process that has to be approved by the participating properties in the district and then I just have a question for Bonnie thanks Mark sure I would say the I mean this model has been used to do improvements in downtowns or whatever they raise rates and they use that money to make you know lighting and landscaping improvements I mean we have that's what part of our parking that's way to pay for parking structures and that time five parking and Bonnie does this area or a portion of this area fall into any of the opportunity zone designations that we were put into place or is that stopped downtown I'm visualizing the map right now there was one in lower ocean yeah I think it does include the it's based on census tracks so I think it does include the beach flats area but I'm not sure the exact boundary I can go back and follow up with you on that I had council member Brown I guess if there's no other questions at this time we can hold our comments and open up to the public for public comment on this item so if there's any member of the public that would like to speak to us on this item please line up to our left and you'll have two minutes thanks council this is Ray Cansino CEO of Camille Bridges I just wanted to appreciate staff and also the council members that work to try to get this together including Tony from Parks and Rec to kind of think about this idea moving forward today's action you know I think is important to think about the opportunities that are down there we have the seaside company that has some parking that is rented from the city and is charging at a higher rate than some of the hourly metered parking and so I think that that's one thing that should be kind of recognized and understood the second thing is that the current proposal isn't to remove any current existing general fund dollars this is only to be using the increase to move forward into the impact zone so one thing we always come up here and talk to council members and always have this like political struggle is around a scarcity mindset a scarcity model around funding and inability to do everything we want to do this is an opportunity for us to create a fund that will help generate additional revenues to get some of those dream projects taken care of and they could be done in coordination with existing plans and I think that's what the intention was of creating these plans and why you see the collaboration and the understanding of some of the needs in the community I think further to that there's opportunity here to really make a drastic change in a local impacted district that is heavily impacted by tourism that benefits all of us in different ways but at the same time gives back at a more equitable way by limiting its scope to that location the location that was shown above was just where the parking area was first identified through this process we hope to continue to kind of talk about what does that mean initially we remove the wharf from that opportunity zone because the reality was we wanted a free local place where people could still park for cheap and essentially still provide some level of kind of recourse for people that didn't have the money to pay the additional parking fees so I think that all these things have been thought about but I think there's opportunity for us to continue to improve as we get feedback from more partners so look forward to being a part of the team yeah all right speaker Elise Kazby community organizer and long-time environmental activist I just want to take an opportunistic moment after thanking council member Glover and the staff for putting this together I think it's really important in good faith to to help the people of beach flats immediately with some kind of project and I think this is an opportunity director Dettel has said that this is done in other places and it might be workable obviously Bonnie Lipscomb and Cynthia Matthews and others have said that it might take more research Susie has said that but I would just ask that we do something small to help the people there and it sounds like it would take not too much effort I also want to take that opportunistic moment to say look at the map right there the visual that you have wouldn't it be wonderful if there were solar panels over all of that area which has become quite industrially impacted by the parking we are in a moment where we have to think of emergency if you are in an earthquake and you realize your bed is shaking right then your bed shaking at first you think things like well am I moving my bed is somebody doing something in the building then you realize you're in an earthquake immediately you take massive action you cover your head you get your pets you get out of harm's way you go out of the house you dive under a table that is moving you take massive action we are in a moment where we need visionary people government leaders who are willing to stop diddling around and take massive action beach flats is not going to be there in a few years the ice is melting I recommend the end of ice by Darja Mille please help us do something small now like this but really let's put solar panels all over that parking area and get not only energy but revenue thank you thank you next speaker well impact zones are I forgot to look wildly misused in a lot of places but I actually kind of like the third part of that infrastructure and sounds so bad those streets are kind of beat up I don't like the idea of a permanent forever fund that just goes there I mean when does that stop I don't I don't get it anyway let's go through this I see we have another progressive crone glover comings cornucopia of social programs being this time funded by any tourist hikes in parking meter rates how high would they have to rise to fund such a pletour of social programs boggles of mine I see no actual statistics how the city has not provided essential city services to beach flat they're not special that they deserve a design an extra funding source compared to anyone else they do have things that other people don't have like their community garden it's a blank check social program measure justified once again by supposed oppression this time it's where the city thinks some of the public this time tourists who actually bring money into the city and its locals are housed to be milked as environmental villains your own links to the state environmental survey indicates Santa Cruz the city's worst CES census tract is actually right on top of France 40 middle school has a low CES score of 1821 a CES percentile of 3376 and a no ranking of SB 535 for a determination of a disadvantaged community for environmental factors every other census track in the city is better as to congestion well there's a lot of congestion in this city in a lot of places in fact if you want to put one of these impact zones around Garfield Park and put in parking meters that'd be okay with me too just as sarcastic comment it's more victim oppressor leftist agenda stuff this time it's tourists the oppressors and anyone minus a few bucks the victims somehow I can test the idea beach flats residents are victims of tourism all things considered they probably even work for the tourist industry it's a social program unjustified money grab redistribution of wealth unjustly from tourists by a jurisdiction operating with a manufactured inappropriate social welfare ideologically possessed fake mandate to spend on an unrelated whatever they want when whenever they want thank you and I'd like to ask if there's any other member of the public aside from the gentleman who's approaching the podium who would like to speak to us on this issue seeing none you'll be our last speaker good afternoon Scott Graham I lived in beach flats before and the traffic down there is terrible in the summer it's I would like to actually see an air quality survey done down there in the peak of summer traffic because I think the air quality is really bad and I'm sure a lot of the kids growing up down there have breathing problems that are directly related to the amount of traffic on the streets there in the summertime and it would be really great to somehow eliminate the traffic I mean if we you know put in a monorail or something have people park up on the summit and take a water slide down into town or something you know it's like and just to get rid of the traffic there's got to be a solution to where we can get less traffic there and as far as increasing the revenues of this fund how about a tax on the parking at the boardwalk so that you know they are contributing to some of the solutions to the problem that they've caused I think that might be a good idea thank you and so with that I'll bring it back to council for action deliberation I'd just like to say before we move on this item to me it sounds like there is a lot of a lot of consensus around this impact fund being something that can be beneficial to the community and I think that one of the things that I've been hearing from council members in terms of questions and comments is really around coordinating with what the city's currently doing and yet what's going on in a lot of the different departments and so I think it sounds like if we're able to coordinate our efforts well that this could be something that we could work on and additionally that the timeline seems a bit short and I would agree that I think that that does seem like a pretty short timeline given that it's it's the middle of February and April is going to come really quickly so I saw council member Watkins council member Glover and council member Matthews and then Brown I appreciate your comments mayor and I think maybe I could offer a friendly amendment to help sort of identify those in the direction if there's no motion no motion yet oh okay maybe then I can offer the motion if that's okay with those I know it was I already thought we were already there but I realized that was before public comment so maybe I'll just go ahead and move a recommendation to direct staff to work with co-signing council members community bridges and other interested community partners and then through an inclusive and equitable community and data driven process that includes the incorporation of current resilient coast adaptation efforts and outcomes high up as a framework economic developments current efforts and a more detailed analysis of establishing a beach flats impact fund including fund allocation strategies in the context of existing funding opportunities to develop a policy framework and then the remainder of the of the motion to develop a policy framework feasibility implementation plan or to inform the development of a positive to inform the development of a policy framework feasibility and implementation plan to establish a beach beach flats impact fund through parking meter revenue and return to council with analysis results and action plan as early as possible or before summer second okay yeah pick one okay um as early as possible with with as as as close to April as possible as early as possible I mean I'll second that and then we can talk about it yeah absolutely um do you want me to repeat it yes and if you could speak slowly as well I have it yeah let me just but you would have to add it I don't have it I have it sort of my little my comments blended into that do you want me to email what I have reread it okay I'm gonna I'm gonna go slow sorry okay so motion to direct staff to work with co-signing council members community bridges and other interested community partners through an inclusive and equitable community and data driven process that includes the incorporation of current resilient coast adaptation efforts and outcomes high up as a framework economic developments current efforts and a more detailed analysis of establishing a beach flat flats impact fund including fund allocation strategies in the context of existing funding opportunities opportunities to to have developed to create or to establish the poll to establish to inform the policy framework feasibility and implementation plan I think we could really just probably have that and return to city council as close to April 2020 since the other is already referenced above does that fit for you council member Glover if I could have a reread in its entirety and I can compare it then we've been totally that was yeah while we're waiting on that I'm wondering if it's okay if there's other comments that were brought up that we can address those and then we can revisit yeah I can come back to you once once it's kind of cleared up and so if that's if that's okay with you unless you want to comment oh I just had uh uh just with regards to the it was nice to work with staff on this project and kind of get the idea of what's going on our our idea and perception I believe was to acknowledge the interconnectedness of the policy and how it needs to be worked across departments but because of the policy in the eight hours of time and not wanting to get ahead of ourselves and reach out to staff to have them invest time on it without the express direction of the council that was kind of left out which is why we met with city manager's office representatives and the director of parks and rec so moving into this with the I think it was encompassed and I'm sure when we hear reiterated in the current motion that it will take form that it is across all affected departments with essentially with regards to looking to that kind of stuff and I appreciate some of the feedback not only about the implementation plans or plans that are already being worked on like the neighborhood revitalization plan and then working with the resilient coast plan but also in thinking about the impact on the wharf so thank you director Dettel for that input and I'm looking forward to the process of working through this with all the different departments so that we can talk about how we can minimize unnecessary impact in other places but still be able to kind of move on those opportunities as was suggested by Mr. Cancino so council member Matthews I do get the impression that the motion as stated duplicates a huge amount of work that's already in process that has been done and is in process so that's a concern for me I wonder if the maker of the motion wants to reconsider integrating and then the other thing is who takes the lead on this would this be another three person council subcommittee working with a lead staff person it seems to me the way the whole neighborhood revitalization research and outreach has proceeded with a longer term plan has been one that relied heavily on outreach reporting to council for direction and then taking it the next step and quite honestly that's what I see as probably a more productive path to go I just I just want to put that out that's certainly the path I'd prefer member Brown yeah I just wanted to say that I'm really pleased that this has come before us I've seen examples in various communities kind of across California in particular but really the country with various funding mechanisms to establish these kinds of impact funds in neighborhoods which are often low income surrounding tourism serving businesses and others I think of the Staple Center and downtown LA and the community benefits agreements that were established there through a very bottom up process of really working with the community and I'm glad that Nueva Vista and Community Bridges is has been involved in the conversation and that you're on board to really bring the community's voice and I know that's happening in other some of these other initiatives but to really identify what some of those needs are in specific ways that they could specific funding projects that could be funded with this so I think it's really great this is happening and I'm looking forward to hearing more I wonder if the depending on how this goes with a report back I mean if it's going to take longer if it can take a while maybe we could get a progress report if they're depending on who's like which staff and individuals if the three council members who brought this to us want to be a committee or unofficial but like some some kind of progress update on what you're doing and how it's how it's going would be nice if we're not going to have any official report by April one of the things that I would just like to say is that I think my understanding with the intention of the motion is that the efforts that we would be doing would be working in conjunction with what's already in process within the city and that we wouldn't be duplicating efforts or trying to start from scratch with any of those the idea is that we can see what's being worked on what's being done and then incorporate this into the current work of staff so that because I think that that's one of the things we don't want to do is that we don't want to duplicate efforts and we don't want to for example have multiple different meetings happening within the community because I think that we also worry about community burnout from us kind of asking the community constantly to come and meet with us and so my understanding from the motion is that it's really an opportunity to start working with what's going what departments are doing already within the context of health and all policies and and really trying to become more efficient with what we're going to be doing in this process so I just wanted to say that because I feel like I'm hearing that it seems like we might be creating more work when I think the purpose is that we're trying to create less work for staff and kind of work with what's already been going on so council member Glover and then Vice Mayor Myers Yeah, I appreciate you saying that Mayor that was something that kept sticking out for me which I'm a little confused about with the the idea that somehow this is going to be a brand new project it seemingly and intentionally is working on the work that's already been done and building off it to emphasize the need for there to be a residual funding source to be able to provide services in addition to what's already being planned for the Beach Flots community through parking revenue in using examples from other places that are proven to be effective and can be implemented somewhat easily looking at those models just taking into consideration the impacts it would have on the different departments which is why we want to direct staff to work on it so I'm with you in that interpretation of the motion as well as the intention of the item Mayor Myers Yeah I just wanted to thank the three council members that brought this in the mayor that brought this forward I think it's exciting and I think I am interpreting the motion as well in terms of its you know recognizing that you know a wider net will be cast you know with the staff I think these things are incredibly exciting to do and they're very complicated and so I would just suggest that maybe that you do set summer as a more likely timeline because even though there's there is need now I think if you're sort of biting off you know this sort of big of an effort I think it's worth the time to do it and you know maybe have access to you know experts through the league and other other groups that so I just think that give yourself the time to really do it and explore everything and maybe just you know give yourself a schedule that allows you to do that that's my one and I'll also just building on that I know that council member Myers myself council member Brown have been on the library subcommittee and I know that we anticipated a much shorter timeline of when we would be reporting back and just knowing that what you might you know initially start off with in the timeline you think you can get things done oftentimes those timelines are much longer than expected because of unforeseen circumstances and situations that arise so I think that you know setting a date that it comes before summer I think would be appropriate and then if there needs to be adjustment then I think that it would be great if there's space for that as well so I just wanted to say that okay maybe I can oh I'm sorry I just want to respond to the question earlier that I wasn't able to answer around opportunity zones and the answer is yes the beach flats area and the wharf is included in the opportunity zone and the the benefit for that is for investors can defer when they invest in a property or development tax over a number of years and if they keep it in for a full seven to 10 years actually that tax can be forgiven as part of the project so it's a bit big incentive for being able to invest in a community and we specifically included a request for that since this track to be included so it's helpful to have staff with a lifeline um who can text you quickly so thank you thank you roll Watkins and then Glover I am reading this I'm trying I'm thinking maybe now I can if I could maybe offer I think I inserted my section probably in the wrong location that this maybe doesn't come up as much of a robust kind of approach but more so in a consideration of how we would move forward so I'm wondering if you could cut out my additions with through an inclusive equitable starting with through an inclusive inclusive and equitable community do you see that Bonnie it's the third line right here yeah cut out where start starting it through an inclusive and equitable so start cutting that or cutting for pasting somewhere else so we select through an inclusive equitable community and data driven process that includes incorporating current coast adaptation efforts and outcomes with the framework with the it's the health and all policies framework economic development and more detailed analysis of the fund allocation strategies and existing funding opportunities no just just cut it out to that to the yep cut that so we cut just to cut and then we'll paste it and then paste it after implementation plan and then and then it would say to that includes consideration and then paste that includes actually you don't have you could delete consideration it could consideration just you could delete that word and through that includes and through sorry and through and so it's more just including it in terms of conceptualizing it as it moves forward but not using it as the way to design it that's sorry I inserted it in the wrong spot so I apologize for the confusion in terms of the robustness that came out of it to build it into how it is designed moving forward because the impact fund as designed is a relatively small amount of money so we want to keep it in this broader context through this bigger initiatives and thinking about how holistically we're working towards the the really primarily the pillars of what health and all policies is that make more sense I'm just reading through it there's twice I know and so one one thing I would maybe recommend is after detailed analysis establishing to delete to develop so it will be a detailed analysis establishing the policy framework feasibility and implementation plan I know above third fourth fourth line as an editor I'd suggest making about four sentences out of that it's one run on so yeah so fourth line down next to establishing next on to the right to develop to delete that delete it yeah oh no no not the establishing part but to develop yeah establishing the policy framework feasibility with the council member Glower I know that council member Watkins suggested the health and all policies being there and I think it should go outcomes with the health and all policies framework yes comma economic developments current effort comma and more detailed analysis might I make a suggestion under including fund and then in addition to allocation strategies instead of just another and because that's a lot of and so beach fights include and including beach impact including fund allocation is it fund allocation or fund and allocation it'd be fund allocation yes so delete and fund allocation strategies and existing funding opportunities and then if if I'm sorry if I may we could also cut off to establish a beach floods impact fund parking meter revenue and then just say and return to council is that fit since it started reference it doesn't specify parking so I would to establish a beach flats parking fund you could strike that and then opportunities through parking meter revenue and return to council because there's nowhere else in there it says parking revenue if you just strike to establish a beach flats impact fund and just take that out there's part of that highlight right yeah there you go there opportunities through parking meter revenue and return to council that's more of a Matthews and then oh just to jump kind of a functional question who's taking the lead on this I would imagine it would be the sponsoring council members and the staff department heads that would be working on it but probably led by the three council members I would prefer that staff take the lead engaging the council members I also think it's important that a wide net be cast in terms of the community partners who are engaged from the beginning I'm just asking the question someone's got a this is a big job someone's got to do it so maybe I turn to Martine well I seems to me like this is a essentially a subcommittee that's being established of the city council and our office will assign a staff person to take the lead and to coordinate with all the various departments and move forward council member lover so two friendly member requests then based on that if we are going to have this be a subcommittee then it would be direct I guess in the beginning direct the formation of a subcommittee with the co-signing council members to work with staff community bridges and so on and so we'll start there with the maker of the motion so you can can you just state that portion of the amendment again yeah the direct the formation of a subcommittee with the co-signing council members because that would be the three council members that signed onto it and to work with staff comma community bridges and other interested and so on interested community partners what he's saying is to to then continue on the rest of the the motion it's just an amendment to that first sentence and so this is to maker of the motion or a family amendment yeah great so there was a friendly amendment made by council member Glover accepted by council member Watkins council member and then the second one was to for what council member brown had said which just not just an open ended as soon as possible but to have a report back sometime in April of the pro progress whether or not it's able to be move forward or not but a report back in April just to let us know where we're at and that would be to the maker of the motion friendly amendment just an informal report back just a report back update sure okay so another friendly amendment to have a report back in April made by council member Glover was accepted by council member Watkins and then council member Matthews was on Tech and I was technical I think it's a it's not a subcommittee it's a committee right I mean it's not a not a sub of anything right it's a committee yeah sure yeah we slip I would just like to add if this might be accepted that last sentence where it says strategies and existing funding opportunities through parking meter revenue I would like to ask that to be a friendly amendment that it be an existing funding opportunities including but not limited to parking meter revenue because I think that there may be other opportunities and we don't want to leave there leave any opportunity out and we can consider parking meter revenue but is there something else that we might want to consider as well in addition to parking meter revenue or in place of parking meter revenue so that's a friendly amendment Mike and that's how I I feel I understand where you're going with that just because you want to maximize the benefit to the district I'm a little concerned that in doing that it will make it too broad and not focused enough you know if we can create the benefit district that's specifically focused around parking meter revenue now and then maybe revisit it after that's established and you're starting to generate revenue through that in collaboration with the other departments that are doing the work but if you know if you were to just look at all other potential revenue generation that could open up the timeline to be much longer than just analyzing the parking and the impact of the parking changes my my thoughts around that is to understand that even if that we did establish just this parking revenue or or not but we do want to think broadly about other funding options or opportunities so I am supportive of that going on because it is one funding source potentially growth and there are other ways that we can leverage additional funding whether we have it now or in the future but I do think we want to keep it in that broader context so I'm supportive of adding the addition personally Councilmember Crohn and then I have a comment to make as well thanks with respect to the parking park and the April 20th is it are we trying to get this done before the tourist season by June? my understanding is well I'll I mean I guess I can speak to it but my understanding is that and what's been expressed by the community and I think that what an understanding that many of the Council members have is that this is going to be pretty complicated it sounds like there's a lot of work that's been going on in multiple different departments and if we're going to try to coordinate this in a in a way that you know we can really make it work for the community it's going to take some time and so I think that that's why bringing it back you know before summer was laid out as a timeline and I think that personally it's something that we the members of the subcommittee should look at and so I was going to even say that by having that language around including but not limited to provides flexibility within the subcommittee and the members of the subcommittee can actually you know decide what is the appropriate way to move forward so that you know if it's going to be we're included you know if we want to consider a breadth of funding opportunities that might take a really long time do we want to focus on something more narrow we have that flexibility so so I'll just end there but that's those are my thoughts and that actually takes care of my comments so councilmember Glover so you're sticking with that friendly amendment with the broadness all right well then I will also accept it as the seconder of the motion just want to make sure that it was so we have consistent and the amendment made by councilmember Glover that was made by you or sorry myself accepted by councilmember Glover and by councilmember Watkins yeah and then the other thing was I guess it was just had to do the timeline but that's okay since I'll be on the committee so we'll talk about it then councilmember Watkins I just think I think we have maybe one more editing a little bit if you wouldn't mind going at Bonnie on the on the screen to inform policy and then take out the second and that and after data driven process take out that includes again so that incorporates yeah because I think it got yeah and then after sorry then going back up to the third line after inform to inform a policy framework I was just cleaning okay thank you yeah okay any further comments on this item I do it's not even mine but policy framework and I think it's opportunity owning what's feasibility zoning a feasibility of the policy and um policy framework the feasibility comma comma policy framework comma feasibility comma oh that's right so I had a policy first feasibility I think you can cut out zoning adaptations outcomes ability maybe you can just a more detailed analysis establishing the policy framework feasibility and implementation plan so I think it was repeated twice to inform a more detailed analysis excuse me that's sure and implementation plan you could strike establishing you could strike that fourth line establishing the policy framework feasibility because it's repeated and then just all of it well I think actually you would just take out inform and then cut out a policy framework feasibility more and then and then just leave it at more detail than analysis the first a policy framework feasibility you would cut form part you would leave inform a and then cut out the first policy framework feasibility from a more do you see is this it's the first yeah yeah okay I think that covers I think it was just it just was placed twice I think I want it very detailed well grammatically we will fix it okay okay fine there you go that's good okay all right so there's any no further comment on this item we'll take it to a vote all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed passes unanimously all right moving on to item number 20 on our general business is warming center funding this will be presented by valve dimmer cut principal management analyst for health america principal management analyst for the city manager's office good afternoon evening everybody so this is a quick presentation and before you today is the council is being asked to review the proposal from the warming center and the draft agreement that was prepared by the city attorney and if council wishes to proceed with funding the program to a motion to authorize the city manager to enter into a contract in a form approved by the city attorney with the warming center and be to pass the resolution to amend the fiscal year 2020 budget and appropriate a general fund budget of $15,000 to the program if as you all may remember at the january 14 2020 city council meeting a motion was carried to potentially allocate $15,000 to the warming center with added stipulation that an indemnification insurance reporting on the process scope of work and a budget for services be returned to the city council at the earliest possible meeting in the form of a contract for the city council's approval following that meeting on january 23 we received a document from the warming center warming center detailing their scope of work budget of services and a reporting process as was requested by the city council we forwarded this information to the city attorney's office who then drafted a agreement for your review tonight and should the council wish to financially support the warming center a resolution for a budget adjustment which is attached would also have to be adopted and the $15,000 as mentioned would come from the general fund I believe we have Mr. Adams here who could answer additional questions from the warming center and that concludes my report thank you okay thank you very much are there any before you leave just want to see if there's any questions for you from members of the council yes my only question is technical so I assume when in the reading through the material that the contract which suggests exhibit a by exhibit a you mean the warming center scope of work which it just doesn't say exhibit a on it that's exhibit a yes okay yeah so I just wanted to let me double check that for you make sure of that and I think that's I have some questions for Mr. Adams but I think that's okay thank you you wait um we have any questions on the contract itself or are we still deliberating if there's any questions for Ralph at this time I just said yeah well I'll wait I'll wait till we okay and okay Mr. Kanadi Mr. Kanadi will you be available to answer your questions regarding the contracts specifically I just had a question on I see the I see the budget and so I'm just trying to get a sense so so I just want to make sure I'm understanding what we're what's proposed so this is for warming warming center provision of of warming center nights tied to specific conditions as well as materials it looks like for folks when they're when they're entering into those you know the warming center nights I don't know Mr. Adams did you want to discuss the specifics of your budget yeah yeah sorry so maybe what we can have before we do that maybe if there's any other questions for analysts at this time we can have those then we can have Brent Adams has four minutes to give a presentation and then we can hear from members of the public and then maybe bring it back to council if they have questions for Brent Adams okay so I guess my question is I just want to make sure that I'm I'm just confirming that this would be that the budget is for providing those services for those night nightly warming center operations yes council member Matthews and I had similar questions about the scope of the project because the what's referred to as the warming center program talks about specifically extreme weather shelter at four church sites but then goes on to talk about the storage facility and so is that also uncovered in this proposal it just isn't clear what the the scope of the project is and I guess I I do have other questions this is for 15,000 for this fiscal year so it would be from the point that the appropriate documentation is submitted through June 31st and there will hopefully be relatively few cold nights so again the question is it for the cold nights is it for other programs and then it talks about a second location for the warming center a second facility our capacity to open two facilities at once so where is that will there be use permits what will be the conditions of use and what are the permits or conditions of use at the existing site it's just unclear I have right I have some of those same questions but I was thinking that those would be best answered by Mr. Adams so I'm putting them out there so that he'll know what they are okay so I then I'll just put some out there too so you're aware so I I was wondering that too because we given that the goal was to get this funding to you during the winter and it's now three four months later there's a short window here so if you could speak to that and then I also have questions about like if you could help us understand I see storage program in the budget and I assume that means like a contribution to rent where it's easy for me to think about it because I've been there to the facility and I understand how the operation works but trying to lay that out a little bit would be helpful not necessarily here but like maybe how you would give us a little more information or in a report so maybe I think what would be best is maybe if we can invite up Brent Adams we've he reached out to us beforehand and so we've allocated four minutes and then I think that what would be appropriate is that if council members have questions Brent then they can ask those questions to you at this point in time thank you council four minutes for your initial presentation and then council members can ask questions I did have a handout for you I hope you can view that don't have a copy of that in front of me but and it's a little a difficult to look at so let's just be clear warming center is not unlike the Red Cross we stay ready at all times right now ready to shelter as many as 150 people and so that takes a lot of funding and I have to hire a person so also let's be clear our 20 year traditional winter shelter has collapsed you don't have one so we are a backup program to no winter shelter system so I have to be ready to so for the hundreds of people outside and with this this program came into being 2013-2014 and when we had a 10 day cold snap of below freezing so we haven't seen that condition yet but that's actually why we have a warming center and we open up and if you see on the document every year because of community support community support from the county and a city we raise that temperature threshold a degree every year from 32 all the way up now we just opened last week at 40 degrees so what we're and that's that and that's part of what we're doing because there's no winter shelter there is no shelter for hundreds of people we're ready to shelter 100 200 people on a given night in two locations we have four locations MOUs with our locations so what we would do is and so and also to be clear I've already spent a bit of this money with the first vote unanimous vote before you went on break I was all ready to get ready to hire a person make sure we had those materials paid for so that I could open in two locations for as many as 10 nights I'm going to make sure I'm answering your questions so we have the MOU doc and over two years past two years in a row the city had elected to allow us to use a Harvey West clubhouse we're not in a conversation like that this time around we're no longer in conversations with the city county or salvation army about a network to protect people like we did last year in the year year past so we have a red flag condition here that only the warming center has stepped up to meet I feel like I'm being redundant now so purchasing of materials more than we've had ever in the past I hired staff person to duplicate me so that I can we can open in two different locations we have MOUs with churches already in place so that I can open if I hit the wall I don't know we're going to have more than 100 people say until about 11 p.m. in that case I can open up our secondary location that person can go there and is fully trained and can manage volunteers clean the place up meet our requirements with the site locations they're all extremely happy with us never had a problem with our site locations and so when we're dormant like tonight we're actually busy right now doing the work so the storage is really storage of materials not our storage program let's be clear you're not helping to pay any of our other programs but this person you know at the Red Cross when they're not opening what are doing some emergency work what are they're doing they're not at home they're not taking they're not on call they're at their desk doing other stuff so that's kind of what we're doing right tonight we'll be handing out dozens of hand warmers every single person in the last year who've requested a blanket has given a been given a blanket by us that's a huge undertaking that that's not budgeted our donation programs we have donation barrels at staff of life market west side people are constantly everyday flooding things in that's coats blankets underwear clothing so that's actually happening and so that's kind of also what we're doing some of this funding helps that that administrative capacity to be able to manage something like that we've never put that in our funding so I don't know if that answers all your questions but locations the ability to protect more people and again we're waiting for that 10 day cold snap and we're ready city of Santa Cruz to to care for hundreds of people if we get 10 days so that's really what this is helping us affirm thank you thank you I'll go ahead and open it up to public comment on this item and so if there's any member of the public who would like to address us for two minutes please line up to the left and then when public comment ends we'll open it back up for questions for Brent Adams I am sorry I have a very little voice but I still want to speak and I'm Nancy Crusoe I've been I love the warming center but been there every night since we opened five years ago five and a half years ago and it's an amazing thing to me to be able to go there and to feel that I'm doing something important and to watch it grow and meet needs that we didn't even anticipate in the beginning so even though our temperature threshold is people freeze at 40 you know I go downtown I go to the gym late at night so I'm downtown with people who are out all night and I immediately noticed how horrible it was on 42 or 41 degree nights that people were freezing so Brent started a hotline and a distribution of blankets and of hand warmers and things that people need and I was able to feel great relief because I didn't have to do it but I knew it was being taken care of and I so appreciate that as a resident and I don't know if I have one more minute I would just like to read a final paragraph of something I wrote to you last night I wish we had I think warming center is a great asset to Santa Cruz I wish we had many more such open-hearted programs offering each person basic things we take for granted with as few bureaucratic entanglements as possible and that last part is important because it carries respect and not acknowledges we are all one Good thank you Next speaker Phil Posner here with my dog Ahona I literally got out of bed to come down here because I have a cold but I want to tell you Ahona doesn't have a cold in fact when she is cold she has a nice warm place to sleep my house and she can even pee in a park and she can sleep in a park she has more things going for her in some ways than some of the people in our community who lack shelter I'm here on behalf of conscience and action with my co-founder Nicholas and on behalf of the Association of Faith Community Board of which I'm a member to urge you to continue to support Brent's incredible work I know a few people who have more passion and more creativity to deal with issues having to do with people who lack shelter so on behalf of my dog and myself and organizations I hope you will follow up with the wonderful vote that you made the last meeting that you did use that you made to support Brent's work thanks thank you Ahona Okay next speaker hello Satya Ryan yeah thank you so much for funding the warming center I hope that this goes through I've been I've been just really impressed with I've mostly just see what Brent does on Facebook but I've just been so impressed by the initiative he's taken to start this on his own I mean he's done so much I keep seeing the additional things he adds to the program and I walk around downtown on cold nights and sometimes just at night I step out for a minute and I think about our homeless community friends who are I wonder where they are what they're doing and knowing that I like hearing the 40 degree threshold because that's really cold at 40 you know and sometimes even at 45 it's cold so I thank you and I do appreciate the work that you're doing Brent and I'm not clear on if this is including all of all of your programs or just the the warming center sleeping program but I think that they're all worthy of funding and I can't imagine how this how he puts all this together by himself and volunteers so thank you for your help for this wonderful program thank you next speaker hi Suzanne McLean I'm the vice chair of the Association of Faith Communities and for those of you I haven't met most of you I've met before I'm also speaking on behalf of the warming center we've had a lot of different working relationships with Brent and I think our last speaker said well he has the heart for people who are less well off he's also passionate which means he's not always polite he steps on toes sometimes he well I wouldn't say bites the hand it feed him but maybe nibbles on it but the thing about Brent is he's doing what we talk about doing he's doing what people in the community think about they think oh what can we do for these people he's not waiting around for that he's doing it and for that he has my utmost respect in spite of a few rough edges so I certainly hope you won't let those rough edges get in the way of a program that is doing so much good for people who have so little thanks Is there any other member of the public who'd like to speak to us on this item? Step forward I met Brent during the Occupy here in Santa Cruz and I think Brent has shown what an activist can do when they're really willing to walk their talk and if anybody in this community has walked their talk about providing assistance especially on cold nights to keep people alive and warm it's Brent I just also want to say that I have heard over the years from many volunteers I would say for sure too I can remember too but my memory is starting to fail a little bit as I get older I notice that I don't remember things as well but I've heard many people tell me who have been involved that it's really well run one woman went in the middle of the night her name's Jane she lives here up in like the walnut area right above downtown there so I've heard from many people testimony that it helps and then I found out the other night that there's actually sleeping mats there that people aren't forced to just sit or stand while they drink coffee for like eight hours or six hours whatever it is but they're actually able to lay down and so I just want to add that my favorite sociologist is Pierre Bourdieu he recommends a kind of guerrilla sociology where you really go out there and find out what's going on and since I'm not always interested in doing a lot of academic work that was kind of friendly to me and it was my my clientele if you will when I was a recreation therapist who essentially became a lot of the homeless population very mentally ill people and I know a lot of these people who are still really needing just a warm place to survive and what seems like a small amount of money can make a huge difference if you'll approve it thank you thank you next speaker good afternoon my name is Mark Lewis I saw a long time resident of Santa Cruz on Monday Tuesday morning the 4th of February I received an email from Brent Adams requesting volunteers for the warming center and I'd never been to the warming center before but I decided to volunteer and I took a shift from 12 to 3 a.m. on Wednesday morning the 4th of February by 3 a.m. it was 31 degrees in Santa Cruz there were 50 people inside the red church approximately there was soup there was coffee there was tea there was mats for everyone that wanted to sleep there were restroom facilities the room was divided for women and men it was well organized the staff tended to any issues with the people that were living there for that one evening and most notably it's important to say that when it's 31 degrees outside that's the kind of cold that if you don't have any kind of warm garments on or shelter it's the kind of cold that you very well may not wake up from if you go to sleep in the night in Santa Cruz and I can say with certainty that Brent Adams because of his effort he saved 50 people in the city of Santa Cruz on the evening of February 3rd going into February 4th and that's just for one night from a cost metric point of view let's take a look at that that's $15,000 divided by 50 that's $300 per person and that's just for one night so we can imagine that number would go down considerably over 10 nights that would be $30 per person for just one site that is a pitonance to save the lives of the people who need shelter desperately in the city of Santa Cruz thank you next speaker I gotta first thank Brent Adams just for being here and what I gotta say about the warming program this saves lives you know and the only problem I have is I've had people come up to me ask to use the cell phone so we could call 211 and figure out where a warming center was that night and it has to get really really cold before it opens up and the my only criticism of the warming center is that they don't open it when it's just a little bit warmer like five degrees more than what it is right now but this program is the city needs to give it every dollar they can because it's all money well spent and it saves lives thank you any other member of the public is there any other member of the public who'd like to speak to us on this item aside from the gentleman who's approaching the podium okay you'll be our last speaker good afternoon Scott Graham yeah I would encourage you to give this money to the warming center it's an absolute necessity that you know they're meeting a need that is not being met through the $1.2 million program that exists and I'm sure if they showed up and wanted a 10 percent adjustment to their budget you guys would rubber stamp that with no hardly a question you're going to give this guy $15,000 and it's like oh we're going to have to rake them over the coals before we give them the money yeah I just think that you know it's beyond belief that we can't do more for the people that are out there suffering in the cold and this organization run by Brent is a way to actually do something instead of just talking about it thank you thank you okay I'll bring it back to council for I know that many council members express having questions for Brent so I think this would be a good time if you have questions for them to ask them and then in addition to that we will move forward with action and deliberation so are there any council members of questions for Mr. Adams at this time you haven't Vice Mayor Myers so I'm just making sure that I just for Brent's sake and Brent thank you I went and visited yesterday with with Brent yesterday at the warming center I just wanted to understand when you have an evening event a night event so I'm imagining that along with materials and other things that you would just bill out that event that night I'm just trying to understand if you're doing services I think according to the contract that we have I just want to make sure we're understanding so you can get paid and and that those services can be provided so I'm just I'm just kind of in the weeds here I don't really but I wasn't really able to get the answer out of the staff so I just want to make sure that when you hold an event you're going to basically bill it out based on the staff time and other materials that we're not breaking it down per night we did that initially in the beginning but it doesn't it doesn't take into consideration all the other costs of preparation that so what we're doing is staff I hired a person materials purchase helping with our shuttle which is quite expensive and it's not really showing up in in this administrative component outreach storage and then so the two different materials that we're talking about are affirming are that we have the right amount of bedding and storage for that and cleaning for all of that and then stuff that we hand out on the daily that we've never really budgeted so it's not going to be a breakdown per each time it's just those are the elements that we that we're needing to affirm a stronger program right now we're already extremely ready to do it we're doing but we don't have the ability without hiring the second person to open up a backup space we don't have and so it's kind of like affirming our basic system that we can because there's no winter shelter there's no emergency shelter at all drop in shelter so we become the backup so so that's what we're really trying to cast and the original original conversation was how come we're not having these conversations with the city county Red Cross I'm sorry a Salvation Army that we had years past how come we're not having conversations about anyway so and it's really just the motion was I need $10,000 to affirm that 5,000 more was recommended by Drew Glover and it's actually needed you know it's in truth quite a bit more would help us but we're just trying to be bare bones and trying to again prove ourselves as good city partners as a good program within the city that you can look to us and not feel prickly that we're we're just doing amazing things for almost no money it's almost all volunteer 25 people per night with just currently one paid staff and now additionally two paid staff so that's what it'll be and if you want to cost breakdown per night we could do that but I think it'll look a little it might look a little ridiculous in that regard in my opinion cheers thank you other questions council member brown well um I guess I'm it's a comment that I'm going to turn into a question so I just want to say I've you know I've talked with many nonprofits in our community that are have experienced the challenges of moving from the system that we previously had as a city and also at the county of funding community programs into this core funding model because while we want to ensure that we have data and that we are we are providing service we are we are actually getting the service I guess getting the services that we you know say we're funding that are actually occurring there's a real challenge though with demonstrating that I mean how do you you know develop these kind of homogenized metrics that all of these nonprofits have to fit into and and I know that that's what we've asked you to do in some respects and and I think there's a good reason for it we're asking all the other nonprofits to do that but you know I think that the point about as few bureaucratic hurdles as possible is important for us to think about when we are asking we are we are making a minor contribution for a service that provides so much benefit into you know public benefit benefit to the most marginalized people in our community so I I struggle with what I'm about to ask because I don't know that it's necessarily you know it's it's not necessary for me to understand the value that this program provides but I do wonder Mr. Adams if you might be able to give us not not here tonight but at some point I think it would be worth trying to figure out what it costs per night not the direct costs but the you know when you when you figure out what it costs to run this program over the course of a year with an average number of nights that you're going to be open what what the actual cost is because I think we should know that and because it we will see that it is a fraction of what the per night cost is for any other program that is provided in this county either public or privately operated and beyond so I I think that if if you'd be willing to kind of maybe there's somebody who could help work help you kind of work through that I think it would be useful to see and I would also ask if we could maybe in in terms of the reporting on this I do share the concern about you know your ability to demonstrate that what if there are no more cold nights in between now and you know it's you know it's pretty warm out there it may be winters over we don't know how many more nights it will be and so I worry that if we suggest if we leave it that we're going to fund you like each night as an event that you will not you will not meet the $15,000 threshold so I'm just trying to figure out a way to make sure that we recognize that these are the services being provided there are some metrics by which we can understand what services we're getting but that we it's not really necessarily going to correlate exactly with what you do between like every night between today and June 30th of this year so I'm just trying to figure out like amongst us if what level we're comfortable with because I'm comfortable with proceeding with the contract and then just requesting that you're the documentation provide you know documentation of service provide some additional detail for us so and I have a few suggestions about what that might be but I wanted to ask you if your thoughts on how you might be able to help us better understand the service and what it costs so whether we open again we're already doing the work tonight again I'll reiterate there's no winter shelter the Salvation Army year-round shelter has put out dozens of people who've broken the rules maybe you heard that they're trying to get those people camping outside the post office up to the armory but they can't get them up there because they're all blackballed from the Salvation Army over the years many people have been blackballed because of behavior that or the other so we and then we're focusing in our current shelter program on the most well-behaved robust person not the most vulnerable person we put a priority on physical mobility and mental health challenges that's one thing we want you to affirm that the industry that the shelter system has to put a priority on these people because it accidentally inadvertently unintentionally puts the lowest priority on these people that's why they're outside tonight that's why we're kind of the only or pardon me or organization that makes sure that they have blankets that gives them a phone number to call two four six one two three four that that they have a place to go get blankets so if you see our storage room with all the donation materials it's packed quite full then I have a box truck filled with backup stuff so and what we're going to do quite soon is rain everything on the community not just phone based or people accessing our space or the warming center because we don't want to be hoarding the rest of the coats we have a huge stock of this stuff but it's been quite costly and not part of our normal budget these are things that I've like learned to do without being paid to take care of in community because we're just under the radar so hand warmers by somewhere between $500,000 with the hand warmers are flowing out on a nightly basis tonight it feels Sunday sunny it's going to be below 45 degrees forecast tonight it's still for somebody over 50 degrees can easily get hypothermia tonight so it we're still in winter conditions without a winter emergency shelter so it's the warming center that's kind of undergirding this community making sure people have a phone call they know where to get a blanket we have 250 people on our shelves tonight so all of those people know and their friends know how to access this so we're kind of like the secret program working on the streets to help people and it's not it's not in the halls of government it's not part of the funding regimes so so even if we don't open another night we're already able to expend those funds appropriately without any like weird you know pork bailing or it doesn't go to me personally I'm not getting any of this money there's no there's no nothing for my personal salary salary coming out of $15,000 if I could just follow up so I and I I totally get that my intention was not to suggest that there's any you know anything that the funds would be misused I think you know you've demonstrated that the way the funds are used is the way fund for the greatest need so it's more about given the interest in public sector let's just say I'll leave it there in kind of moving towards having these kinds of metrics and providing ways to demonstrate you know what you really can't I mean the qualitative nature of you know the experience and what you know how many volunteers and what people do it's very hard to kind of fit that into the boxes that we ask you to check but I'm I'm just because I know that that's a concern I'm just trying to figure out if there's some ways we can reflect that in there at least in the reporting for this year especially if we want to kind of move towards funding additional funding for next year we would like to do that before you know the winter if I may so having relationships like this only benefits the nonprofits like this we when we're tight really small and doing everything for for the money that we can raise at a fundraising dinner there's no responsibility on us to to to have you know better reporting when we have grants like we do relationship with Kaiser Permanente and Community Foundation now we have to do regular reporting so it it encourages us to measure up and be a more professional entity in terms of bookkeeping this is the first year we hacked or the we've had a bookkeeper for the last year you know and we're using a program that helps separate out the different programs that we're doing and then yes much more easy to quantify you know what we spent for warming center specifically including workers comp and you know insurance for shuttle van which is quite expensive and different things like that so great that's great and so if we if that could sort of be part of the reporting assuming we can get to that would be the motion essentially end of year reporting or something like that okay so we've councilmember Matthews and Watkins and then myself well I did want to get to the reporting thing because in your proposal you say when it's part of this two page proposal end of season reporting the warming center program will submit a progress report affirming specific use of funding as well as data pertaining to shelter activation number of guests etc which is I think exactly what we've been talking about here the warming center activation period ends in early April 2020 this report will be submitted within 30 days after the conclusion of our activation period now I'm gathering that you don't really intend to end your program ready to go there in April 2020 that's just a couple months away well it's the warming center program activation phase which are forecasts we will still have we have blankets year-round for every single person we have all the coats will be storing materials through the spring and summer if it's if you're asking that this funding for instance the staff that I'm hiring this season that I've hired is already employed now and has helped us with two activation phases considering this funding won't go into next year that 2021 funding a warming center cycle I believe our fiscal years ends in June it's June 31st so it's a short fiscal year and then understanding the the grant would be within our given fiscal year which ends in in June 31st and it's also my understanding that this can't be retroactive for expenses already incurred okay so but I I think it's important because this was originally brought to us as strictly the warming center program and I understand there are many other aspects to that program it's certainly obvious the votes are here but I think it is important that we get and I didn't realize you had grants from Kaiser and Community Foundation and you're already apparently doing reporting to them so there is some kind of a mechanism set up so whoever's going to make the motion I think it is important that we be very clear on what we expect this grant to cover contract grant what the end period is and it does say in the contract that invoices for the fiscal year and Tony maybe you can advise me on this says all all invoices for the proceeding fiscal year must be submitted by May 31st but that would be for like the previous fiscal year I just I want to give and it's for Brent's benefit as well as ours what are the expectations for reporting and invoicing and so forth I I can't speak to the expectations for reporting and invoicing but there might be another staff person that's available to do that this is based on the template that the city uses for most of its grants to to non-profit mm-hmm to non-profits and so you could modify this language to take into account this specific circumstance to the extent the council thinks that might be necessary I have some language that I was just toying with during the discussion that I could roll out well anyway for whoever's going to make the motion to me that would be important some degree of specificity specificity and about services to be provided some provision for reporting that would include some some rough data and a timeline Cynthia yes so this initially was for what was termed initially expansion so it's not for regular services in the warming center even these are for elements that we are began paying for before the break and that we have the conversation if it shouldn't be retroactively but the warming center season began in mid November and so we've been looking at that ever since the first vote this is the force fourth vote on this by the way so I've had to kind of like you know drag drag this along and go okay at some point I'm just going to start start understanding this is going to happen and I have to get ready for these conditions should they occur so we've been ready for these conditions and so these will be budgetary amounts that would be specifically about expansion hiring this individual materials pertaining to expanding nights numbers more than we would normally do materials and then the whole donation circus and things like that but so let me just affirm I believe it'll be quite easy for me to report these by the time and they won't be normal warming center elements they won't have anything to do with the other storage showers and laundry programs that we're doing and I think it should be pretty cut and dry but this thing that you mentioned nothing proactive nothing purchased nothing purchased can they show things that were purchased prior to this vote that's what because that's that's kind of a bit of the the budget that was anyway I don't want to occupy more time move on to council member Watkins and then I have some comments and then council member brown okay let's see so I I think council member Matthews covered some of the questions that I had as well and the retroactive piece I guess my maybe it's just more of a comment in terms of the process here I think that's where we're kind of getting stuck a little bit and knowing that there was this immediate need to try to have something in place and to use the services but it's really outside of the scope of our general funding processes and so I think that's where I I sort of struggle to reconcile this because then now we have this limited timeframe and and so I think moving forward even if we do do an interim funding that we want to keep it in mind of our holistic kind of approach to how we're addressing services and the continuum of services for those experiencing homelessness in our community and whether that be a conversation with the 2x2 and whatever that partnership with the county or the the COC or whoever is monitoring that that we're kind of keeping that bigger perspective in mind moving forward but also acknowledging that we have this immediate need right now which I if without saying what I think Councilman Brown at the time was bringing up was we want to help this immediate need right now so I think that's where we're a little bit that's where I'm feeling that we're a little bit stuck in terms of how that works for just the sort of outside of the scope of our processes you know what I mean so those would just be my brief comments on it I had some comments I wanted to make too and one I wanted to start by brand appreciating the service that you provide to the community and what you're able to do on such a small budget one of the things that's really difficult is given the fact that the city doesn't have any kind of warming center option and that this is our only option in terms of a warming center it makes it really difficult we don't have any other options in the town currently it seems like the other services that we do offer are full and this is something that really is beneficial especially on these really cold nights when temperatures drop to points where people can dive hypothermia one thing and I don't know I'll just say this and I don't know if this is for you know city staff consideration or whether and then just Brent you know for you to maybe take into account one of the things that I think is really important when we consider getting contracts from nonprofits within the community especially when they lay out a budget is to have some kind of narrative that follows along with it so we can kind of understand clearly when you say materials that there's a breakdown maybe of a paragraph of you know in order to run these services we need to purchase bedding we need to purchase blankets you know and those things are all laid out at that cost X amount per blanket or we get them in bulk 500 for X amount of price I think it would have been really helpful understanding that within the context of how this has been laid out so like for example with you know shuttle van expenses it's an administrative it's like $1,500 you know does that cover gas insurance repairs people who are driving I think those kinds of things are really beneficial for us when we're trying to understand okay here's how this is all breaking down and here's where all these costs are I'd also like to say in just you know to be transparent I think that when the city council is asking for proposals and contracts it's an opportunity for us to really understand your scope of work where the cost at I don't think that it should be interpreted that if the council is asking for a contract that that's a guarantee that we're gonna allocate funding towards that effort I think it's an opportunity for us to better understand what is the work that you're doing what are your needs seeing those needs laid out in the form of a table with a budget so that we can understand if we're going to decide to donate funds what those funds are going towards so I just say that because it sounds like there that you know there's there may have been an assumption that because we were entertaining this that there's a definite end to us donating that and as a result some spending occurred before we've even you know considered this and while I think there is you know there is an interest in moving this forward I just say that because it would be bad if you were in a position where you spend money that you thought you were going to get and then you didn't get it and I think that's for any non-profit within our community and so those are the main comments I had and then also as was expressed by council member Matthews I think that you know for whoever is going to be the maker of the motion really understanding what this is going to cover what how the reporting is going to be is really beneficial because I think that one it will help the community understand how the funding was spent and two I think it's beneficial for the warming center because should the warming center want to request more funding in the future it's a way of demonstrating here's what we spent money on in the past and moving forward we'd like to ask for this amount given what we've spent in the in previous years and so I would just like to say that the last comment I would like to make is that I think that for the council members who brought this forward I appreciate it I do think though that if we're ever going to consider something like this moving forward that it be done like in September or October so that when we are making decisions on funding allocations it's at the beginning of winter or before winter so that we can give these funds at the appropriate time rather than in such a short window so that's it those are all the comments I wanted to make council member brown Glover and I saw council member Matthews hand yeah that's okay and then city manager I don't know if you want to comment first either way I just wanted to simply just to comment on your suggestion about getting the process earlier earlier I agree with that I think if at all possible it would be it would make sense to incorporate it into the budget process or actually our community programs process that really is the the approach is also the set aside process and you know this really fits within that and so to incorporate it into our existing process that then aligns with the budget process so that you know by for example if we're looking at next year's winter shelter program the council would make that decision by June 30th and then it would be well before the winter season typically that would be my suggestion so I think that whoever the maker of the motion ends up being that if that can be incorporated that we if we're going to consider any additional funding for warming center or homeless programs that come with our budget cycle I think that would be appropriate so council member brown yeah so I I guess I have I do have a couple of comments I mean I want to remind my colleagues that the original motion for this was was made November 26th so to suggest that this I mean that was late but if we're talking about I mean and I agree that maybe that the funding cycle should really coincide with our annual you know our budget cycle but we're four months later now and so it you know we it's not like we are just now thinking about this and part of the reason that it came when it did was because you know we had been told that there would be sufficient winter shelter and there wasn't that became clear and so I think that the circumstances under which this arose were particular unique and that we we need to recognize that so you know talking about how it could have showed out what had done it is not really I think productive so I just have to say that secondly I do have a question related to the the end of the term of the contract because that is a challenge if we cannot fund something that a retroactive expense and we're specifically intending to fund particular functions at the warming center how does that work if can we fund retroactively if we cannot can we extend the contract period I don't I'm not aware that it would have to end on June 30th right that funding you know we generally with core like with core with community programs we give the money and then at the end of the contract period we get told you know we get the report right I mean typically what we do is you know we have a contract for service and then the services are provided and we get invoices and billing for the services provided you know typically it's not set up in such a way to reimburse for expenses already provided that's our typical way now I don't know whether legally there's a there's an issue there I think that's just general generally our contracting approach with any contract that we'd let with the city with such service providers as a contract they're giving their funding they have the fiscal year to spend the money and then they do the reporting so that's normally the way we do it but whether the council has the ability to make an exception to that that's really more of a legal question and I would defer to Tony on that but again as far as process is concerned in the way we normally do contracting we don't normally do that I understand that so I'm assuming that if it's contemplated that the service will be extended past June 30th that when the fiscal year 20 21 budget is presented that will be incorporated into the budget so I don't I don't think there's a contractual obligation to the service continuing past June 30th or the comment about providing compensation for services that have already been rendered is based on a provision of the California Constitution which says a local government body may not grant extra compensation or extra allowance to a public officer public employee or contractor after service has been rendered or a contract has been entered into and performed in whole or in part or pay a claim under an agreement made without authority of law so that to me regardless of whether or not there might have been some hope or expectation that a contract might be entered into is an obstacle to paying for shelter services that were provided in the past I'd like to make a motion then so I would move that we authorized the city manager to enter into a contract in a form approved by the city attorney with the warming center with the period the contract period amended from it's this is I don't know what page number it isn't for you guys but it's the end of the contract two three now this is anyway it's the last page number four this contract shall be effective the 11th day of February 2020 and shall terminate on June 30th isn't we're not going to have time just you won't be able to spend the money is that if we're asking if we're saying it's only for the coldest nights of the what you can do then is consider funding for next fiscal year as part of the budget process so by June 30th you would make a decision about the next winter winter season so I'll leave the contract then and um so entering into the contract yep go ahead I do have um I'm just trying to I do have a suggestion to to address the retroactive compensation issue which we cannot do that is what right and I have some language to suggest how we might address that in the contract itself which would be an amendment to paragraph C if the bear with me for a second I was just going to change the term but number one C submit an invoice request okay it would read submit an invoice request on a city approved form for payment for the insert expenditures made on or after the effective date of this agreement comma with appropriate supporting documentation period and then it would go on to delete years grant award and then continue with funds must be expended and I would insert exclusively for those expense categories listed in exhibit A and then exclusively for the category those expense categories listed in exhibit A which were salaries and or yeah there is a box with a listing of expenditure yeah yeah I know budget box funds for which invoices are not submitted prior to this date well I mean I was struggling with the requirement to submit invoices no later than May 31st of the fiscal year do we have I guess that would that would be appropriate in so far as but we could we could modify that language if the council wants the contract to extend past the 30th so submit an invoice request on a city approved form for payments for for expended payment for expenditures made on or after the effective dated disagreement with appropriate supporting documentation okay it looks like a management analyst has yeah I was just briefly discussing the situation with our finance director and should there be funds in this program account when this contract ends it is possible to roll them over to the next year so that might solve a lot of this okay so I'd like to ask the maker of the motion if you can please restate your motion sure all right so the motion would be to authorize the city manager to enter into a contract in the form approved by the city attorney with the warming center with the amending the contract language in section 1 paragraph c as follows submit an invoice request on a city approved form for payment for expenditures made on or after the effective date of this agreement funds must be exclusively expended exclusively used for the expense categories listed in exhibit a scope of work invoice for funds awarded by this contract and this is where okay so invoice for funds awarded by this contract that fall within a fiscal year must be submitted no later than May 31st of the fiscal year funds for and then following funds for which invoices are not submitted prior to the state will be deemed for fitted by grantee and will therefore be immediately reprogrammed in this whole discretion of the city is this the place to suggest rolling over so here rather than saying will be deemed so delete will be deemed for fitted by a grantee and therefore immediately reprogrammed will be considered for will be carried forward to the next fiscal year to the next fiscal year second at the end that's just the so we also have to do the budget adjustment so that's the first part of the motion can I that's more Matthews like oh well I'm wading into the finance yes I think I think the only piece the the only question I have is yes we can encumber funds enroll them over and we do that when there are projects that aren't completed typically the way that works is if it's a construction project for example and for some reason it's going to take longer than the end of the fiscal year to complete then we can encumber them and roll them over in anticipation of that project being completed but that's you know for paying for that particular project so I think that's certainly the case that that can happen if it's anticipated that this again it depends on what you're paying for you're paying for this winter season and for some reason winter senior doesn't goes beyond June otherwise you know you would normally then budget for next winter season as part of the budget process so you would you we would need some kind of approval to do it so there's a fiscal side of it and then there's approval side of it and so that's where I'm sort of confused are you wanting us to we can encumber the funds I guess it may should be clear we can encumber the funds but we would need to know that you approve rolling those overs and you're approving the program for next winter as well just we just we need clarity on that and that's a part I wasn't clear and would that be included in the contract here or well then then you would have to we would have to amend the contract to extend the period of the contract as well I guess that's that's the other piece because again normally the normal process would be to for this fiscal year it would be to provide a contract for this fiscal year with funding for this fiscal year and then for next winter season to approve it as part of next year's budget process and then you'd have a new contract new funding that's the normal process again the funds the rollover piece there is part of our normal agreements because what normally happens with community programs providers is they're given the money they're given a year to spend it if they don't spend it then it goes back into the pot for then reallocation for next year and they could then get it again that's the normal process so this would be an exception to that process again we don't generally do that I don't know of a case where we've done that so it's just a bit unusual we do have this encumbering encumber process again but it's generally for usually it's for contracts or construction projects or things like that so I'm not I'll wait for my turn I think that the motion is still but it hasn't been I don't think it's been finished yet so I don't know if you'd like to Councilman Matthews is one I have some more suggested language well I do too are we just we got a conundrum to work through here and we are now in approaching springtime so one thing to do would be the original proposal was for 10,000 to bring it back to 10,000 take it through June 31st and at that point we get a whole new cycle etc so and we will have had some reporting so I'm just throwing out that as a cleaner proposal I had just to go back to the order I had Councilmember Glover's Matthews Vice Mayor Myers and Councilmember Walken so just to honor that so just for clarity question over here to the city manager and the city attorney um I know what you just mentioned of our normal funding plan is that we grant the money they spend it submit invoices they get to pay back out to them and then if they don't use all of it it just goes back is there some stipulation that we can't just give the money to the organization with expected reporting kind of parameters that would come back at the end of the the whether it be the fiscal year or what not or and this gets back to what the suggestion by Councilmember Matthews why wouldn't we just approve the $15,000 and see what needs to happen because I mean there's as uh Mr. Adams said there's warming hand things that are handed out blankets socks you know if you look at this the items that they hand out daily and I believe this is associated with the warming center this document you give us right not with the footbridge or any of the other programs is that every day they're handing out warmers ponchos tarps blankets coats jacket socks socks socks clothing hygiene products sleeping pads so what's to say and now Mr. Adams said that he had made previous purchases ahead of this because of necessity I believe I don't think it was I mean this is me kind of based off of what you were saying and understanding the work that you do is that it was because of the necessity in order to be able to offer the space and to potentially anticipate the need to expand should you hit many nights in a row or reaching your capacity so whether or not it's paying for retroactive services I would imagine that the organization itself could use and figure out ways according to the sheet here and what they're working with could use that $15,000 or any portion of it up until the end of the funding period so I don't think I am remiss or I am concerned about the suggestion to subtract money from the amount that we're giving to this organization even if it's only for a short period of time for them to be able to purchase the items that they need in order for their distribution and or in the worst case scenario where it's incredibly cold and they need to expand have that money there available for them to expand because none of us can see three weeks into the future with the weather and maybe there's a cold stint that hits us where they have to be open for five days in a row because of torrential rains that we don't see because of climate change so either if we can't give them all the money once and ask for reporting afterwards to hold them accountable for what they say they're going to do which would then influence our future budgeting or grant writing cycles then why don't I mean we should move forward with the 15,000 we should enter into the agreement and whether we want to extend it and this is the conversation is back to the language changes or whether we want to just check in at the end of the fiscal year and see how much money has been spent by the warming center hear the reporting that they have and then re-enter into the next funding period with the anticipation based off of their estimates of their need from what they were able to spend in the time that they have had to use the money I mean so all of that and it amazes me how long this is taking it's amazing how much intricate detail y'all want to make it so that we can provide people with warm services when we spend tons of more money on other things at the drop of a hat it it is impacting me by this conversation that we can't say okay and especially since so the argument that it's in the wrong time frame I mean that is absurd thank you Councilmember Brown for bringing up the timeline around this because it did come to us back in November and shouldn't all of these things have been worked out between now or then and now anticipating that it was going to be coming back right now anticipating there was going to be that short of a timeline to spend it why are we deliberating on the dais when we have other issues to focus on when it could have been staff that has foresaw this and then provided it to us as options and solutions outside of us trying to craft the language here amongst all of us it blows my mind and I think it speaks volumes to the lack of urgency and intention that we as a body have shown on addressing the issue of homelessness whether it be falsely claiming that we have winter services which then delayed us till right now to be able to offer this kind of stuff which is very problematic in my opinion or the seemingly high incredibly high almost impossibly high standard that we're trying to hold Mr. Adams and the warming center to in order to be able to provide them funding to be able to keep moving services forward so I'd like for us to move on this and stop with all of this back and forth and get back to Councilmember Brown's motion which I thought was done which is why I said second but maybe that's the first half and just move forward because this is in my opinion rather ridiculous and inappropriate so we have Councilmember Matthews Vice Mayor Myers Councilmember Watkins Councilmember Brown I would also like to point out that we are pretty far over on this item and so I'd like to ask my fellow councilmembers if they would want to consider moving the next item which is our mid-year update to 7.30 p.m. that would give people because I imagine that we're going to still be deliberating on this for a little bit and so we could either move the item until after public comment or oral communications or we could continue through but I just want to put that question. I would call the question on this one. I think we have to finish the motion. Incomplete. Yeah, that's all. If I want to work on your motion so you move motion to authorize a city manager to enter into contract form and prove a city attorney with the warming center and I would like to add that the contract specify the services to be provided because I think that's been a bit of a moving target that it reflect metrics for collection of data that it request monthly reports and specify the term of the contract. You know, this is a discussion. I can go over it with you. Well, there's other people on the stack so. Okay, so you're asking that it come back? No. Specify the terms of the contract or so if we want to specify the terms of the contract then we just specify them and I think that's what we were trying to get through with C was just to submit to do do the wording make those changes that the funds will either. So there are two ways to do it as far as I can tell. We can make the contract period be until the end of this year rather than the fiscal year or we can make it be the end of the fiscal year and then say any additional funds will be rolled over dealer's choice. I don't whatever seems like it makes the most sense. To clarify. Yes, you can do both. You can you can make the contract for this winter seat for the remainder of this winter season and then make a decision about next winter season as part of your budget process, which I understood you wanted to try to incorporate into the regular budget and that's why I suggested that. However, you also have the ability to if you like to provide a contract term that covers next fiscal year and then the funds can be encumbered moving forward. So that is council has this question to do that as far as I understand. I have some language for your consideration. So we're squared away on the first part of the paragraph. So the last part would the last sentence would read funds for which invoices are not submitted prior to this date and then insert may be carried forward to the 2020 fiscal year subject to council appropriation as part of its FY 2021 budget process. There's a request to repeat funds for which invoices are not submitted prior to this date, which is May 31st may be carried forward to the 2020 fiscal year subject to council appropriation as part of its FY 2020 2021 budget process. So that would work again. I don't really have real strong feelings about it. I mean the other we could also make those other changes delete funds for which invoices are not submitted. Delete that sentence entirely and make the contract period 11th day of found last page number four the 11th day of February 2020 and shall terminate on December 31st 2020 and so that's takes that would take care of the contract and then the so B would be a resolution to amend the fiscal year 2020 budget that it keeps it cleaner if we just extend the contract period because it's in our budget for this fiscal year delivered and we don't have to change the resolution and see request monthly reporting with information regarding services provided and I think did you have a list that you well in this I'm just saying what the proposal says it will do is affirming specific use of funding as well as data pertaining to shelter activation number of guests etc and the etc is other stuff that's included and then so that would include the reporting and the metrics for data collection and then specifying the end of the contract I think we've done that proposal carrying over at a minimum has that probably been accepted or no changes seconded did the motion get finished after I said second because that was a whole bunch more yeah the motion was the authorize the amended contract with the language that we've come up with with the assistance of our staff resolution to amend the fiscal year 2020 budget and appropriate general fund budget of $15,000 and see request that the warming center provide monthly reporting of regarding services provided and I just say as per the scope of work or do we one way that that's fine as per the scope of work exhibit a yes second and accepted so the motion was made by council member brown seconded by council member glover there's a friendly amendment made by council member matthews that are accepted by both the seconder of the motion and the maker of the motion we still have vice mayor mires I just say one thing really quickly for the minutes the friendly amendment was related to the reporting I think well it should be included in the language of the motion the motion is to authorize the city manager to enter into a contract in a form approved as amended with the including amended language can you just want us to read it again to have it now or can tony send it to you I can read it fairly quickly okay so then I'll email it okay and that will let me just maybe I could just ask for clarification just so the contract will be ending at the end of this fiscal year July June 30 is that correct so we're okay we're extending the contract this calendar here right through the end of the calendar year and so the funds would be would be obligated through there but we would have to and martin this question for you we would have to re-encomber this money at the start of the budget I mean it's start of the fiscal year as part of our budget proceedings it sounds like what the motion included was that that would be the council would make that decision during the budget process as I understand how I interpreted the motion was I mean I'll just state for the record I mean I really think somehow somehow this should become part of our community grants program and so I mean I'm conflicted because I want to support the need but I'm a little frustrated that we can't just provide up to a certain point the funding and then go through the community grants project to kind of start from scratch so that's what I'm struggling with and I just think it's cleaner I think it actually if I'm looking at it from Brent's perspective it's actually better to have all of this lining up so that we can you know it's an annual renewal or an annual proposal that we then kind of can see as part of the group but I understand what you're doing too council member brown we're in an imperfect situation so I understand but I'll just those were the comment that was just the main comment I had was just seeing if we could just find the amount stop the contract and then go into the community grants project so I had council member Watkins on deck and then council member Brown so did you still want to have yeah actually I have a friendly amendment that for fiscal year 2021 that we transition this contract to align with our set aside funding allocation and core funding or other existing city processes to safety net services just to to bring us into systematic alignment so that's a friendly amendment to the motion so that would be D on the motion we're gonna or friendly amendment part D keep it organized here sure yes is that accepting okay so we had a friendly amendment made by council member Watkins sorry I'll just I'll just finish this actually have another friendly amendment okay I would I would be curious I would like to know operational organizational understanding of the budget as well as what it like base costs as well as one-time activation costs like so what's the sustainability of the organization as a whole and if for example it is a really cold winter we know how many how much it costs to activate the warming center so I think however that works into the reporting or contract I think it's important information for us to know and or for the funding process moving forward as it relates to core B I mean it I mean it could be a it could be a friendly amendment to have that be incorporated into this this contract and or as a recommendation moving forward as it rolls into the next iteration for the fiscal years budgeting process however the maker of the motion feels comfortable but one way or another it'd be helpful information I don't respond when it's my turn so I'd yeah but just for for recording purposes can you restate that sure and as a friendly amendment how you want you have an idea okay and I thought of the same thing it's something we require of all our community programs applications many of which are in this ballpark so it's not unusually burdensome but just that the applicant provide a copy of their agent their total agency budget so we know where this fits into the other funding that's right that's what you're getting at and if if well that their agency budget should reflect that that's right so if I'm hearing correctly for the purposes of recording that the friendly amendment is to have the organization provide a copy of their agency budget the agency budget the organization total organizational budget no problem that'd be helpful was that friendly amendment accepted yeah that's what I was going to suggest yes friendly amendment made by council member Watkins accepted by council member Glover and council member brown okay we still had council member brown and council member Matthews on stack for comments so would you do still have any further comments I comment at least on this round was to suggest that like other community programs that the warming center provide a copy of its agency budget Matthews do you have any further comments nope okay does anybody have any further comments seeing none we'll take the vote all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed that's just unanimously okay so at this point I'm going to ask my fellow council members whether they would like to move forward with our next item or if we should take a break and then hear the mid-year update after oral communications all right personally would just say go go for it all right seems like there's consensus to move forward with our mid-year update I just also want to let council members know that oral communication since oral communication stop is at seven that if we haven't made it all the way through then we'll need to stop at that time okay let's make it all the way through great all right so next on our council agenda is item number 21 general business we're going to start the presentations off with the fiscal year 2020 budget adjustments and information on city's financial status and that presentation will be done by Tracy Cole our principal management analyst yeah sorry yeah so I'm going to do a brief introduction here so there's a before you are really there's three components to this evening's item and the first is a just a general update on our mid-year budget picture as far as how we ended the year what our projections are for the next fiscal year and then some of the factors and variables that we have to take into consideration with respect to our budget projections so Cheryl will do that she'll do an update and then council can have an opportunity to ask questions then we'll move on to the next items which are action items the first is a request for the council to amend our personnel compliment in classification compensation plans to make some additions to classifications and some changes to classifications and I think I guess Lisa's going to be here to do that and then there'll be questions from the council that you can take action on that one following that will be a brief presentation from staff on the budget adjustments which are the adjustments that we need to make to the budget that we've had to make up to now for a variety of different reasons and staff will go over those and then the council can ask questions and then you can take action on those so those are the three overall pieces well again we'll start with Cheryl we'll give a kind of overview of the the big picture and then move on to the next two items thank you hi thank you Cheryl five acting finance director and I'd like to introduce Lapita alabos Bisby she's now the budget manager in our finance department and this recently joined us she has a budget team of Tracy Cole and Jillian Morales as an accountant thank you first this is our start just trying to get this good question mayor we just get a sense of how long presentation might take might be it's uh it's pretty quick it can go quick it depends on questions okay it's only around 16 slides or so and they're pretty quick so okay um this is a local government finance trends basically the local governments local governments are not in a boom cycle pension payments are increasing California cities need to move stable revenue base there's recession uncertainty and low reserve levels good we have reserve levels but they're a little low we need to build them up a little more the city budget is stable but we're being cautious the cuts you made for the fiscal year 2020 budget the 3.9 million dollars in cuts that we did over a three-day process they have put us in a better financial shape we're cautiously stable at this point there's no new projects added this year and we did see service reductions from those cuts still were the messages were being careful we see with our five-year projection we're seeing slight deficits in fiscal years 21 and 22 we think we can manage those this coming year we're seriously still seriously underfunded in our capital needs and deferred maintenance we need to we need new revenue sources or additional funds to address priorities that are coming up so that's where we stand at this point I want to bring your attention to the slide here it's it's a it's a the 2020 slide if you see in the lower hand right hand corner there's a 2019 adopted budget comparable cities and you'll see that the city of Santa Cruz adopted in fiscal year 19 a balanced budget and then in fiscal year 2020 we had a little slight surplus so the city of Santa Cruz continues to adopt balanced budgets and that's our goal for the next year also this is the fiscal year 2019 financial report and at the end of the year we had a we weren't projecting a surplus but we did have a slight surplus of 0.9 million and however that's not enough to fund the needed capital investments and for maintenance this is the reality show the budget makeover that again this is addressing the 3.9 million dollar cuts that you did in fiscal for fiscal year 2020 budget and you can see below the the slide under that is what our projections would have been had we not made those cuts and then we see the little circle around there you can see in the future years the revenue is popping just a little above the expenditures and we're pretty neck and neck prior to that so this reflects the what I mentioned before that we have deficits in 2021 and 2022 projected deficits okay now this slide shows general fund deficits so this kind of quantifies what our deficits are going to be if you add them up they're almost five million dollars but this is what we're going to manage behind the you can see the expenditure are the bars going up behind that is the revenue base so this is a slide you put probably saw in a prior year but it's been updated to reflect our new projections after again after the 3.9 budget cuts million dollar budget cuts okay included in these projections are a slight decline in sales tax and property tax revenue increases a better way to say that is we're we're not we're not increase and we're not increasing our revenues as fast as they were so we've we've considered that they won't continue to increase at the same rate they're going to they're going to cool down a little bit and it includes all council approved colas for all the bargaining agreements just did a number of renegotiations with the bargaining units and it includes future increases in our CalPERS rates and if you've been told that our CalPERS rates continue to climb we've incorporated that into this projection and then future decreases in debt service payments and again that's the major one would be the pension obligation bonds which is final payment is in fiscal year 2022 and that runs around three million dollars or so a year what we still need we need support for aging the aging infrastructure you can see we need the roof for the civic auditorium we need you know repairs revetment repairs to west cliff and we need storm drain replacements these are some of the things that are on our unfunded CI capital investment program list that we don't have the funding for so we still need that funding this is a CalPERS pension update and basically on the right you'll see some of the things that CalPERS is doing that's causing a problem and why we're having increasing rates and there are total assets although they're in the billions of dollars only represent 71% of what they calculate their future benefits to public workers are and they're projecting an investment rate of 7% per year but they're only they're coming short by about 6.7 I mean they're coming short in only meeting about 6.7 and then again it's their their their fiscal projections are falling short so on the left hand side though you'll see some of the things that the city has done to mitigate these problems with CalPERS and one of them is establishing the IRS section one one five trust and currently we have over 10 million dollars in that trust we've done agreements with the employee bargaining units for them to pick up the share of the employer cost and and we've also a paid at 8 million dollars toward our unfunded liability saving lowering that unfunded liability and we also which isn't on their on this chart on this slide but we also so we prepay our unfunded liability each year and that saves us several hundred thousand dollars of interest and we're able to do that and it helps with our with our actual reports where we show our unfunded liability okay has the recession been canceled basically everybody's waiting for the recession because we've gone longer than we've ever gone in history in a recession period in a recovery period and so everybody thinks that okay when's the shoe going to drop when are we going to have the recession and basically the Chris Thornberg who recently gave a presentation on the on economic on the economy of the country said that we're kind of in a not too hot not too cold we're in a Goldilocks error right here basically nothing's moving very fast it's just kind of just kind of stagnant and not stagnant not to you know it's okay so their fears are that where what's going to happen what's going to cause us to go into recession basically right now we're at low interest rates low in employment and low inflation and we've got a stable expansion what may cause us to go in is not the wind it's the why and it could be reactive global impacts and there's a quote from the Wall Street Journal concerning the the Kona Kona the virus in China and then climate change might do that but every every agency is saying it's the next unforeseen event and of course unforeseen means we don't know what it is but it'll put a shock to the system right now there's they're not seeing anything like that so probably won't have a recession in 2021 but yeah you don't know what the unforeseen event would be okay the pizza's gonna talk about our 2021 budget plan we're going into next year's budget great thank you Cheryl good evening Mayor Cummings council members so as we just heard on Cheryl's presentation given our economic and fiscal conditions the direction we'll be moving this fiscal year is a status quo budget we'll be seeing an increase in the budget reflecting employee costs but we will maintain a status quo as it relates to operations there are no anticipated budget reductions as of departments at this point and the budget process this fiscal year will be different from the last two or so fiscal years or where we plan for extra meetings to discuss budget reductions this year departments will be presenting their budgets to council over two planned budget hearings scheduled in May we'll also take advantage of those public hearings to invite the public for engagement and also different this year are we're separating our public hearings for operating and CIP budgets the council will first hear the CIP budget in early May followed by the operating budget in mid-May so the separate public hearings will hopefully help focus discussion and allow more time for each of the two processes so that concludes our fiscal year update and budget plan before we go on to the next section there are any questions I had one question I know recently it had been stated there was a court case that found that Amazon is now going to have to pay local tax and so I was wondering if any analyses had been done yet to determine how much sales tax revenue might be generated from Amazon purchases and sales locally or how that might you know fit into how much revenue we're going to get from those types of sales taxes yes thank you Marcus had done an analysis of that early on and it seemed that we wouldn't fare much better we might fare a little worse from that from that so but we could do an analysis and see currently what would happen you know what where where we would be thank you are there any other questions from council members at this time saying none we can move ahead with the next portion of the presentation um next up is Lisa Murphy Good evening Mayor council members Lisa Murphy your Human Resources Director what I'm actually passing out to you is an updated version of what you see on the PowerPoint slide I neglected to include a position on this table which I'll go over with you in just a moment so what you have before you is each year we consolidate it to twice a year if operational needs dictate that the departments want to make any adjustments or changes in their the number of staffing or reorging of their staff we do either at the mid-year or we'll do it at the budget time so what you have before you is some recommendations from each of the departments of some mid-year changes and I'll just list each one give you a brief description and give you the fiscal impact so the first one you have up and I'll again point out the correction in the table the first one you have on your before you is for water and what they are adding is a principal planner and an associate planner and then they're going to delete a professional engineer the details of the each explanation if you were like me to go through it is in your agenda report and for the sake of time I'll just if you ask me questions I'll respond to those for public works given the new requirements that they have for food race recovery and the number of recovery resources that they have to conduct at the landfill what they're asking for one is they're going to do a bit of a reorg within their department and then they're going to add four positions and I should note all four of those are actually SCI positions and except for sorry three and one is a supervisor and then in economic development they're adding a halftime economic development coordinator you will see in the communications manager the city managers adding communications manager in addition they are removing the special events coordinator from the city manager's office and they are placed in the parks and recs so that's what you see there and again the last one is in the police department what we're going to do is create a career ladder for the police property and evidence specialist so now we'll have a senior and once we fill that from an internal ranks then we'll come to you at the budget and we'll remove the the position so it'll be net neutral for the PD the overall economic impact is identified in the fiscal impact and you'll see the majority of it actually is in the enterprise funds while there is a very very slight savings in the general fund and partly that's due to the restructuring of the funding of some of the positions in particular such as the community communications manager we're spraying that costing out amongst the departments so as I said there's a slight negligible savings in the general fund majority of the cost is by the enterprise funds so having said that I recommend approval and if you have any questions please ask that's what I'm asking I do and this is so embarrassing so on the water on the chart that you gave us you add two and you take away one so that to me would be a net one I'm sorry I'm adding to you but I you are right I'm embarrassed my math is this late in the evening was a little bit off so we are adding the two positions taking away one so it is one I did I was worried I couldn't do that the only other one that I left off of your chart because there's no change it's just a title change for one of the positions but there's no economic impact for that I have to tell you I rushed to put this together and I'm failing to see will you show will you just point it out because I see one one one one yeah there are two there are two supervisors in resource recovery supervisor and supervisor and the others there's no added positions I identified it as SCIU is that correct is that what you're saying that's incorrect yeah okay yeah there's two the numbers are correct that's the supervisory position I apologize that's my matters had a question yeah I just wanted to just clarify when you say enterprise funds so just so everyone's clear that may be watching so water and public works those are all enterprise those would be the enterprise fund positions yeah it's a solid waste fund and the water fund okay thank you to be more specific that's the water fund the wastewater fund the refuse fund the parking fund the storm water fund which are enterprise thank you with respect to the like the communications manager we're spreading amongst all the funds that's all getting divided up even into enterprise fund departments correct thank you so will you want to motion on this now do we have one more I don't think so okay we'll do it at the end okay I think Council Member Brown had a question yeah this I know this is a budget item but it raised the question for me if we could hear a little bit more about the timeline for hiring a communications manager what's the plan yes so if Council approved position today we would begin the recruitment process as soon as possible and we do we did have in the process of putting together the recommendations that came to you beforehand the opportunity to put together a job description and so we have a lot of the work done so we'll just be working with the HR department to get the recruitment process going so that's it's pretty close to done what was included in our packet job description yes and one question this is for the City Manager I know that there's been this was expressed last year during the budget but my understanding is that there's a like a river restoration specialist position I think that's with the water department potentially I just wanted to know if there's river coordinator position I just wonder if there's been any traction on yes that is in the it's in the existing budget and trying to see if I know it's something that the departments are working on really trying to define the scope but what happened with that position it was originally funded and it was allocated to different funds we had a deficit so then we allocated it to the water department and the honest truth is that it's been difficult to sort of scope out the work just in the water fund because you know the realization is that the work of this position involves a variety of different funds not just the water fund so the staff has been going through really trying to figure out what is the best way to scope the position and allocate it so we are and going into an effort to reach out to because I know we have stakeholders like the coastal watershed council and others who are interested in the work of this position and so we are initiating an effort to get all that input and come back to you with the revision so that position so it can actually reflect the work rather than trying to sort of shoehorn a position that's funded for a certain fund and that and it's not working out to just make it realistic and so we'll bring that back to you and I can't recall what the timeline for that is but certainly with respect to the current the next fiscal year budget we'll do that Any other questions from council members at this time? Yeah, just about the could maybe explain the hundred thousand dollars of fuel costs Oh that'll be coming We're about to do that next Yeah, that's next so we'll move on to the next portion of the presentation Okay So I'll cover this part as well so as is routine each mid-year we bring back for council approval and the administrative or cleanup budget changes or requests additional appropriations in response to unanticipated needs the table before you summarizes those changes and requests and I'll try to go through this pretty quickly since they're they're pretty articulated in the staff report The first is the only impact to the general fund it's a one-time request of 75,000 for the Pogonip lead remediation assessment The second row is really just a transfer of funds from the carbon reduction fund to various projects Expensed in the general fund and some examples listed were a new hydration station at Loch Lomond LED upgrades to the teen center and electric conversion of gas landscaping equipment just to name a few The next line item Public Works is requesting 100,000 to cover unanticipated costs to operate generators at various city facilities resulting from the two-day PG&E power shutoffs So Council Member Crona I hope that addresses your question And then the next item includes a transfer of the liability fund to the Wharf fund in the amount of 100,000 for the Wharf railing safety improvement project The next item is a transfer of money within the wastewater fund and the amount of 85,000 to support the transport and provide reuse of biosolids And then finally the water fund has a list of requests totaling about 4.2 million outlined in the staff report Included in the list is a new appropriate or examples are new appropriations for unanticipated repairs to the Newell Creek Pipeline Change order on design work for project starting construction in 2021 along with other emergency needs just to name a few And again the only this last one is redundant and reflecting just the liability fund supporting the Wharf railing project So the only fiscal impact to the general fund that we bring forward for Council approval is the 75,000 requested for lead remediation So that concludes our presentation for mid-year adjustments and we're happy to answer questions Are there any questions for staff at this time? Councilor McCrum Yeah, about the 100,000 So just running generators Is there anything about how do we get that money back from PG&E? Have I've seen other people other communities sue PG&E for losses during the shutoffs This isn't really on the recovery part of it This is on paying the bills for the extra fuel So we'll proceed if there is any exposure that we can obtain but that will take quite a while I don't know the details on that I know we are tracking it but I don't know that I don't know if finance or anything is working on that to be honest with you but I'll check on that I mean it's something we had to keep the lights on and keep things working I don't anticipate it Great, thank you Are there any further questions? This is so trivial but on the staff report the 4,000 per hydration occurs twice Part of that It's an award from the carbon reduction fund to the water funds so the appropriations have to be in both places Oh, I see I see the way it carried over there I didn't see that Okay Council Member Glover Council Member Cron This kind of harkens back to our last topic with regards to the amount of money that we spend on so many different things I just find it interesting that the $10,000 that we're going to spend on a daily case replacement at the Civic Auditorium It's interesting I just thought I'd point that out Council Member Cron I wanted to point out the $13,000 a month that's just in salary not benefits for communications manager I don't think the city communicates well for the council hasn't done well in the last couple of years at least in my case and I would like to push that out of the main motion and maybe vote on that separately because I will not support a communications manager I think it's not a good investment and again I would urge folks consider taking that money it's probably about $150,000 and having stipends for council members and they can hire people to communicate for them and not have I think if the city's done abysmal in communicating in case of Council Member Glover and myself and a couple of different press releases haven't worked Any further questions for staff? Seeing You want a motion? I was going to open up for public comment so All right if there's no further questions at this point in time I'd like to open it up for public comment is there any member of the public who would like to address us on our mid-year budget update and any of the items that were presented Okay You'll have two minutes Hello Council Just an overview First I want to say Cynthia that just because it's a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it's not true we all know that is grown ups in the political world that's a standard political powerful technique so I would really appreciate if you would stop countering everything I say when I get up if you have to really disagree that's fine but just don't on principle counter everything I'd say I think that would be respectful the second thing I want to say is I did not see the presentation I'm sorry I don't know your name that was that Cheryl fine Cheryl presented in the binder I would like to see everything that's presented up there duplicated in the binder so the 16 slides weren't there and the reason I'm questioning that is many experts on the economy actually think we're in a horrible recession already and it is not being really fairly presented by our mainstream media nor most of the power brokers who are in power in the democratic and republican parties in the mainstream so I think we're having a horrible recession and many people are not making livable incomes in the country so I think that needs to be investigated the other thing I want to say is that the city of Santa Cruz housing program specialist that's I think it's a for higher role in government is is one that I'm really questioning because we're still not defining what is affordable housing my understanding of affordable housing is that you have to have a really excellent income as in six figure income over a hundred thousand dollars so you have to be working in a really high level paid position to be able to afford affordable housing in Santa Cruz and most of the units that are going in that are so-called market rate are actually luxury we are now living in a luxurious elite wealthy enclave that has been highly gentrified by moving many middle in many middle and low income income people out of the community and or onto the street so I'm very concerned about the this position but I'm running out of time so I can't say more but I think we need to examine these positions and this one reports reports to the principal planner that's a problem when the planning commission is all developer friendly wealthy people I want to recommend the solar economy which is a book that was written in 2002 by Herman Shear and I'm out of time so I'll stop there I would like the downtown forward program investigated because I think they're using city funds and they're supposed to have an alternate argument presented if they're presented to the public in the library and they're not so please investigate that I want to know if they're using that at least you've gone over your time thank you okay next hi I'm Nate Alex dot Kennedy at Gmail 3469888 I would like to talk to all the council members here in private at some point so please get back to me and let me know if you need that email again with the budget here something that came to mind I'm not sure how 100% appropriate this is but we should switch as many of the county cars as possible over to electric or even lacking that hybrid at least it will bring fuel costs down a lot yes I would love to see a cop cruiser car that was all electric stuff like that an ambulance that's all electric city vehicles we need to try and get them all converted to something that is a zero emission no tailpipe thank you yeah right is there any other member of the public who would wish to address this on this item seeing none I'll bring it back for action the liberation council member Matthews thank you I'll go ahead and move to approve the mid-year position changes and also approve the mid-year budget adjustments as presented I'll second that and I just want to say I really enjoyed the rationale for each of the changes I mean it was really clear as people retire or the needs of the different departments evolve and particularly in the public works and water the just increasing expectations for regulation for recycling and so forth I thought the the write-ups why things had to shift around or be added really made sense to what what the departments are facing in all of them so I thought it was a well-written report thank you so we have a motion made by council member Matthews seconded by Vice Mayor Myers to approve the mid-year position changes and approve the mid-year budget adjustments council member Glover I saw your hand thank you yeah so I share the concern that was voiced by council member Crone about the communications manager and the cost associated with that there is an estimated salary of $9,717 per month up to $13,152 per month that is an exorbitant amount of money to pay to someone to manage the communications I don't I don't even believe we need a full-time communications manager maybe a half-time communications manager and reallocate that money somewhere else because at that top step of that position that's in one month paying for basically all of the money we just argued over to get to the warming center to support people from freezing to death outside so this gets back to something I said on the campaign trail which is a budget is a moral documents and we are making our moral statements by how we're allocating this money and if you would rather spend $13,000 a month for some communications manager as opposed to figuring out ways that we can offer that to supportive services of people that are going to die if we don't provide them and have failed to provide them throughout the winter it speaks volumes to the issues of the priorities of the city I think that's concerning and I just want to acknowledge when the speaker is saying that she felt that her perspective was constantly disregarded and or belittled by members of the body and there's a term for that it's called gaslighting and gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a target individual making them question their own memory perception or judgment often invoking in them cognitive dissonance or other changes such as low self-esteem using denial mystic misdirection contradiction and misinformation gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's belief so just it's concerning that there's members of the public to feel that way and I don't think we should spend $13,000 a month on a communications manager Cron just so we can make this given the time could we just separate that the maker of the motion can we separate out the communications manager and then I'm fine with everything else so there's a friendly amendment made by council member Cron we'll just divide the question so we're going to divide the question as it pertains to the position changes by pulling out the communications manager I just get further clarification for the mid-year budget adjustment there was not a resolution brought forward for that the only resolution brought forward were for the mid-year position changes there was a resolution to approve the mid-year position changes motion to approve the mid-year budget adjustment thank you all right it's as as I understood it as is implicit so um yes we can take the first section of this which is all the other positions with the exception of the communications manager and to approve the mid-year budget adjustments is there any further discussion on those items seeing none all those in favor of please say aye aye any opposed so that passes unanimously and then I will return to vote on the position of the communications manager so call for the vote yeah so I'll call for the vote on that so the motion currently is to approve the communications manager position all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed nay okay so that passes with council members Watkins Matthews vice mayor Myers and myself voting in favor council member Glover Crown and Brown voting against and so that completes and concludes this item on our agenda and so we will recess until oral communications which shall begin on around 7 p.m. thank you all right good evening everyone and welcome to our 705 session of the Santa Cruz City Council at this time we will have oral communications oral communications is an opportunity for members of the public to address us on items that were not on our city council agenda today oral communications will be for half an hour and given that we're starting a little bit late we'll extend oral communications to 735 and before we begin I'd just like to welcome the students from Cypress Charter middle school for being here with us today okay so if I take roll really quick oh yeah and I'd like to ask a quick to please call the roll thanks council members Watkins here Matthews here Brown is here Glover here Cron here Vice Mayor Meyers here and Mayor Cummings here sorry okay we'll begin oral communications so if any member of the public would like to step forward you'll have two minutes nope just in order where you are online and if any member of the public would like to speak to us like to ask you that you please line up to my left so my name is Freya Sands thank you for your service and thank you for your attention to this letter which will be coming around it's about 111 Eretz Circle which you've heard about before thank you for your attention my only further comment beyond the letter is that if it is unfair to the owners to designate 111 Eretz Circle historic two plus years after the sale then it is truly unfair to the neighbors and the citizens of the city to not have examined the wealth of this 130 year old property long before the sale thank you for your service thank you good evening good evening next speaker two minutes two minutes okay hi my name is Sue Powell I live at World Circle on the west side of Santa Cruz and I am here to support the appeal of the recent historic preservation commission decision about the historic and cultural significance of the Circle Church at 111 Eretz Circle as you know at their meeting on January 30th commissioners decided to recommend that the site not be listed on the city's historic building survey or as a city landmark neighbors of the Circle Church submit an appeal yesterday and wrote a letter communicating their concerns about the meeting and the decision so there are five points that I'd like to highlight I know I'm not going to get through the details of each number one is that neighbors and friends of the Circle Church think that the second developer paid historic report and the peer review were very superficial and inadequate in our view commissioners did not address the problems with the reports and did not consider the age of the building the history of the site going back to the 1880s the decades of the church benevolent services to the community is ties to the neighboring Baptist Church and the site's role in neighborhood integrity as a community gathering place an open space and a commons number two in my view the historic report uses affluent values and criteria which are not the values of the Circle's neighborhood this church was designed and built by one of the congregation not a nationally known architect it was constructed with less expensive materials and this is what the developer paid consultant used as a criterion deciding that the place was not historic I'm going to have to skip to four and that's that Ross Gibson was asked by the chair of the HBC to recuse himself and I would like to ask the city council to request that the city attorney determine if that request was actually correct because we don't think it was and I only have eight seconds so please read what I submitted and thank you for listening Good evening mayor and council members I'm Deborah Elston and I'm coming to you in hopes that you will address another investigation that finished in December regarding council member Drew Glever once again violating the respectful workplace policy this report was brought to my attention a couple weeks ago and I had heard nothing about it in the media or otherwise I felt the public should know so I posted it on next door and closed the discussion people I have spoken to were completely unaware of this report and wanted to know more I'm asking you our council how come this has not been agendized for discussion or consideration how is the city council once again going to handle this severe and egregious behavior those are the lawyer's words not mine sadly the public is getting very tired of hearing about these episodes so please hold your council member accountable for his actions and words thank you very much next speaker Good evening mayor and city council my name is Heather Walts I work in public education I am a parent and I am a concerned community member I am here tonight because I have read both the investigation report by Tim Davis and the UCSC Democrat statement about their experience with council member Drew Glover regarding his behavior towards women and his demeaning of both women and men Mr. Davis stated that Drew Glover unequivocally violated the respectful workplace policy and that he engaged in conduct on social media with a willful and conscious disregard of the feelings, rights or safety of two city commissioners Mr. Davis states that Glover's behavior can be perceived by a reasonable person as derogatory insulting bullying humiliating sabotaging slanderous malicious and retaliatory those were his words what more can be said before you hold Glover accountable and address him for these behaviors when the rose report findings were discussed in October council voted that only one incident did not justify censure but now there are two independent investigations both finding violations of the respectful workplace conduct rules the second investigation and unambiguous findings as well as what happened at UCSC all make it clear that this is definitely a pattern of behavior for Glover unless you feel this is acceptable behavior you must make the statement clear it isn't I'm asking you to agendize the discussion of the Davis report so this can be made public and discussed by the council thank you hi my name is Nancy steward Mr. Mayor members of the council I'm here this evening because I've read the findings from a recent respectful workplace violation investigation completed by attorney Tim Davis in his letters Mr. Davis stated that Mr. Glover's behavior can be perceived by a reasonable person to be derogatory insulting bullying humiliating sabotaging slanderous malicious and retaliatory at the october 8th 2019 council meeting a motion was made by council member brown and seconded by then vice mayor Cummings that stated the council finds that censuring of two of its members is inadequate based on the findings of the rose report as it relates to the appropriate policy a single act shall not constitute disrespectful conduct especially severe and egregious unless excuse me unless especially severe and egregious in october Mr. Glover's behavior towards a city staff member was so egregious that the city manager directed all staff other than the city manager and department directors to no longer communicate directly with the councilman in november formal complaints were filed against Mr. Glover by former members of the commission for prevention of violence against women which resulted in Mr. Davis's investigation and most recently the UCSD democratic club chose to endorse the recall of council member Glover based on his rude and disrespectful behavior towards their members and others in the community these are all examples of behavior of our pattern of behavior that should not be tolerated by you as leaders of this community or by the citizens of the city of Santa Cruz Mr. Davis's response to the complaints was submitted to the city two months ago and yet there has been no action taken by the city council I'm here tonight to ask you to agendize this most recent report and the violations by council member Glover and to hold him accountable for his behavior thank you next speaker hello i'm Nate elix dot kennedy at gmail.com three four six nine eight eight eight feel free to call me anytime council members or public but something I do have to say about this whole recall it's basically the uh they're trying to get Drew and Chris impeached without a trial and without any charges they're you know the only reason for them being impeached is because there are people that don't like them and every single one of us in this whole room has people that don't like us so with that said also something I've been working on lately the Tom Steyer campaign and he is the one and only person running for president that wants to call the global warming what it is and it's a national emergency and none of the other people that are running for president right now um not even our treasured Bernie all of the other people just want to keep going business as usual and pretend that nothing's going on and what I have to say as far as what we need to do is a city all the council members and everybody here what we need to do is we need to start addressing these issues locally and uh you know it we we've finally got cannabis legalized in this state but what I think we need to do is we need to get a bunch of industrial grade hemp made meant for making paper clothes and all the other stuff that hemp can be made out of that is what we need to do and what I would love to see is have the city itself growing many many thousands of plants and allowing people not to be limited to an amount like six plants like the initial law has been but to of any open any dirt that you have you should be able to plant to seed in it up to a certain point and then tax it appropriately thank you next speaker Pat Kittle Santa Cruz the last guy talking about global warming is uh he's just the kind of person who I have in mind he no doubt is also for open borders and the rather stealthy sanctuary city policy which according to my understanding all of you unanimously support I brought this up at a recent forum at the Loudon Nelson Center where Chris and Drew were both present presenting their case and the audience was overwhelmingly in support of them I explained that I was not in support of them I think they should be recalled and I explained it was nothing personal because I think all of you should be recalled at least until you can explain something that I have asked you to explain for years and you never do and specifically that is if you endorse sanctuary cities you are basically inviting everybody on earth to move here that's what you're doing if you think about it and I'm not I mean it's pointless for me talking to the city council but somebody may be hearing this whose mind is open and is willing to do the math it's pretty simple if you invite everybody to move here this is the most notorious carbon emitting country on earth how are we going to reduce global warming if we invite everybody on earth to move here it's a very simple question Drew was very courteous in his avoidance of replying to my question Chris on the other hand was rather rude he told me that I am whatever kind of environmentalist I am he's not as though he should be proud of that Chris if you recall I was restoring habitat the day you called me to work in your yard thank you very much next speaker Keith McKenry you like the library I thank you for supporting the warming center and for your support of the student strike we're providing food and logistics also in support of this strike because it's very important because the wages here are not livable and the housing is not affordable and I also want to after listening to Debra's comments and her people that she brought in should be noted that on nextdoor.com if you speak and favorably about homeless women and how they should not be attacked and that they should have access to housing you get cut off of removed from nextdoor.com no one is really speaking about chief math mills and his turning a blind eye to employment discrimination against women and sexual harassment by officers in our department but Debra can be seen walking in and out of the police station many times a day so I think it's quite hypocritical that when people like drew and chris are standing up to end violence against women that they're being falsely accused of of sexism and really is it much worse to be raped and murdered on the streets or to be looked like sideways or something whatever these little things are that are made up by the city manager's office I don't think so this is like a smear campaign that you should reject you should call out women should be insulted that they are that these accusations are being made against drew when the city sanctions the shutting down of Ross camp and sending women to their death thank you good evening I'm Scott Graham there's a real injustice happening here in town and it's gonna it's on the ballot and it's the recall chris and drew are being accused of things by the the pro recall group that are platinally false they've made up a bunch of stuff they've gone marched around town telling people lies to get them to sign the the recall petitions they paid out of town signature gatherers to gather signatures because the group that gather signatures here in this county refused to do it for them because they didn't agree with the recall so they had to hire a group from San Jose to do it and it's just amazing instead of being forthright with what they were recalling these guys on which is that there's developers real estate agents and landlords that didn't like their policy and that's the whole reason these guys are being recalled this whole smoke screen about sexual harassment and stuff like that it didn't happen it's been made up but then we have as just mentioned the sexual harassment at the police department which we're only finding out about now there was a police woman that wasn't getting back up because she filed a complaint against a superior officer that was eventually fired she filed a complaint against the guy and nobody would help her if she was on a call no one would come and back her up back you know that's outrageous that this is happening yep and I know that Mr. Norris contacted me before on behalf of Huff and requested four minutes and so I'll honor that request thanks so silence means more suffering the Cummings majority at city council has spent a year of dither and delay on the most basic homeless issues we saw this kind of petty fogging pencil-neck plotting this afternoon and the delay around the pitiful pittance that uh given grit Brent Adams for services the city and its poverty pimp service providers are unwilling to provide in a city flushed with funding city employees like Susie O'Hara and her boss Martine Bernal are still telling the same tales after a year with the highest homeless death rate yet you know that where there's adequate shelter and all that sort of thing they need to be fired and replaced council members I want to get past the stacked agendas of the last years the phony censure motions the corrupt recall movement might have moved to call for this kind of a vote against the city manager and city attorney the real powers and the government hopefully in or out of office they will struggle to do this because unless you make these kinds of fundamental reforms you will get nowhere we can learn from the example of Oakland's moms for housing and the where do we go Berkeley encampment in standing fast against pseudo progressive hypocrisy with another liberal mayor our green up there who isn't liberal at all but has this pseudo progressive coloring last year as was mentioned a moment ago the most basic rent control and just eviction protections were shelved a direct slap in the face unfortunately by mayor comings to those who elected him and we still have no study of rents, wages and profits in Santa Cruz promised less summer. I've written and spoken about mayor Cummings cave into the Matthews Myers minority in a meeting with him Monday before last I presented a variety of questions to him which he has yet to answer clearly or perhaps he has answered almost all in the negative as I remember some of these questions are in the back of this flyer which I won't have time to read but I'll make available to the community and on social media and on Santa Cruz Indy media my advice to people in the general public is you need to phrase these questions in public places where you don't have a limitation of two minutes and the pseudo civility rules that are used here there's nothing wrong with being civil if you're in a position of equal power but when people are not in a position of equal power civility means subservience if you are outraged ask loudly and if necessary uncivially at public meetings important questions that are not being answered what is really uncivil is the way basic human rights and services basic human dignity is denied to hundreds of poor people outside and thousands of renters struggling to live in Santa Cruz and the political games played at this council ignoring these basic decencies on campus a loud angry persistent and hopefully successful cola for all movement stood up today and yesterday to police bullying administration stonewalling and city police collusion they're a tonic a lesson an inspiration and a hope for us all is there any other member of the public who would like to address us during public comment on any item that was not on our agenda today hey seeing students are welcome students are welcome to to speak if they'd like hey seeing none sure yeah I'd like to follow up on the comments we received this evening and I'd like to make a motion to agendize the discussion of the Davis report I'd like to add to that receiving an update on the work progress timeline and the council ethics committee and then also receive a report from the human resources department and city manager's office on current anticipated steps for training on respectful workplace policies as well as conflict resolution and mediation efforts I'll second the motion so we have a motion made by council member Myers seconded by council member Watkins I have a question sure did you have a date associated with the motion I'd like to have it on the February 28th meeting sorry 25th it's the 25th do you read back the motion a motion to direct the human resources director to bring a report on the Davis investigation receive an update on the work process and timeline of the council ethics committee receive reports from the human resources department and city manager's office on current anticipated steps for training on respectful workplace policies as well as conflict resolution and mediation efforts I just asked the chair to split the motion okay and how would you like the motion to be split well there's three three sections so we could split it into those three different requests so how about me so the first motion would be to bring back a report I don't know why we're I don't know why we're separate these are all related to the sound I think part of it well you can ask the and I've been I mean we've been I've been out you know I've been asking for this to be agendized for almost two months so I can I can speak to part of this trying to understand how to sure and I'm on the agenda and I can I can speak to part of this when this first came to the council's attention this item was or I'm sorry actually all that doesn't see I think so long as you're talking about what this what the content of the motion is it's fine to split the motion if that's the direction of the council but this isn't really an opportunity to debate the merits or get into depth about the the specific components of it because it's not on your agenda right okay so and I'll just say I think splitting the motion is and can't hear you Cynthia oh it's splitting the motion is something that can be done at the chair's discretion okay and I'm fine with splitting the motion so maybe what we can do is we can read off each part of the motion and vote on each part independently so if you could read off so first motion would be to receive a report from the human resources director on the December 6th 2019 report from an independent investigator Timothy Davis regarding the finding of a violation of the city's respectful workplace conduct policy by council member Drew Gleaver so I can just for clarification it's just to receive a report on the report yes from the HR director I'm just trying to understand a little bit more too about well I'm just again the the idea was that we would be voting on a number of updates and potential action but now they're being individually voted on so the intent behind the motion is to have the city council understand the investigation and have a public discussion about it and to understand where the ethics committee is in its work to understand from our city manager and human resources departments what kinds of further training is going on as well as our conflict resolution mediation that we agree to as a council and to take any action that the council sees fit to to discuss with council member Gleaver any further actions so I don't if we want to break that apart we can do that but they sort of all roll together that's what I'm trying to say I guess one clarification I'd like to know is is that report is that an agenda item or is that a report to city council in the form of a memo or trying to understand we've received we've received we've received the investigation on December 10th it was released publicly on January 17th we would like I would like to have a discussion about the findings of the report it is a public report it is now obviously available people are reading it I'd like to have the HR director available to go through the findings of the report and be able to have council discussion that I was just saying for me that that's that's clear okay okay council member Crohn and then I also have a comment to make which I was going to send an email out later but since this is a before us then I'm more than happy to speak about it this evening council member this really smacks of a political ploy and I'm happy to support this at the first meeting in March sure I'll just say there's a motion on the floor I'm sorry I if I may this feels like we're getting into conversation the motion is to agendize it for a conversation at the next meeting in February and just to sort of echo a count Vice Mayor Meyers comments this is something we've requested to be on the agenda just for discussion of updates etc and we're at this time now requesting it given that the community had came out and spoke to it thank you and in response to that go ahead city attorney if you'd like to say go ahead I don't disagree with what council member why can't you said okay I'll just say with regards to the vote that I'm already I've already scheduled as I mentioned and I can't say what I mentioned because it was in closed session but I've scheduled the meeting with council member Glover and with HR director the city attorney and the city manager to address these issues we're actually meeting on Thursday to discuss this so there is action occurring I do understand there's been requests made I also am much more comfortable with bringing this forward at the first meeting in March so that we're able to have a full discussion of with council member Glover and then bring forward any issues that might come out of that meeting and any resolution that might come out of that meeting so I'm more than happy with agendizing this for the first meeting in March but I'm not comfortable agendizing it for the next meeting especially because it'd be more appropriate to see what's coming forward in a gender review and ensure that there's appropriate timing so I'd like to call a question I would like to make a substitute motion I would like to make a substitute motion call the question yeah but I'm I have the floor we need to run on the no the question has been called by vice mayor Byron she needs a second she needs a second though second by council member Watkins so there's no more discussion on this item can I just get clarification so was there a friendly amendment to make it the first meeting of March no there was not however the motion has been broken into pieces so yeah so you're so the so the first yeah the motion to call the question and then after that we'll continue to take these in pieces motion to call the question all those in favor please say aye aye aye close no so the motion to call the question fails with Vice Mayor Myers council member Watkins council member Matthews voting in favor council members Brown Glover Crone myself voting against calling the question so council member Glover I'd like to make a substitute motion which would to agendize the discussion of the Davis report in the first meeting in March I'll second that so there's a motion made by council member Glover seconded by the mayor to agendize the discussion of the Rose report for the first meeting in March Davis report my apologies so no further discussion all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed no okay so that moves with council member we want to agendize it we just want it to be before the election so you can have a political thing so I'm very going to halt further discussion on this so that passes with council member Glover council member Crone council member Brown and the mayor voting in favor council members Watkins Matthews and Myers voting against there are two other motions currently on the floor and so if we would want to hear those motions be repeated now is the time there's actually one motion right which is split three ways but there's two other components two other components what is that substitute motion cover the agendizing of the item the report yeah so now there's two other motions on the floor unless the makers of the motion would like to we already we voted on we voted on it we voted on the we voted on the first motion which was to agendize the report we voted on accepting the substance I'm sorry I'm sorry we voted we voted on the okay apologies okay so now we'll vote on the motion that's on the floor which is to agendize this before the first meeting in March all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed no I'm I'm lost I'm lost friendly amendment to that sure if we're gonna I mean I think it it is worth hearing more about what's happened I mean the the one thing that is public here is the Davis report what is not public and we ought to be having in public discussion about I think is our efforts to move forward with conflict resolution training etc as we directed back last year so I think it would be nice if we're gonna have an agenda item to include all I would ask updates updates on progress made I think you need to vote on the motion that's before you because this really is an opportunity I I think a friendly amendment to the motion motion yeah I'm confused if I may in terms of just the amount of conversation around account that has gone that has gone fairly far afield to have an agenda is that the next meeting so I'm not sure it seems like a real slippery slope here for me Tony in terms of how we're heading in that direction so the discussion should be limited to the language of the motion and I'm not allowed to make a friendly amendment I would recommend that you voted up or down and then make a follow-up motion if necessary okay so if I can if I can please like bring us back there is a motion to call the question which was voted upon there was a substitute motion made by council member Glover that passed with council member Glover Cron Brown myself voting in favor vice mayor Myers Watkins and Matthews voting against and so now that motion still needs to be voted on which is on the floor which is to agendize a discussion about the Davis report for the first meeting in March and then there was a friendly amendment by council member Brown point of order I thought we you have a motion you vote we voted I thought we voted it yeah we didn't vote on it then we have another motion that's not a substitute motion that's a motion I thought is that is that wrong or I thought it was a substitute motion it was a substitute motion yeah but you called the question what was that question called about they called the question yeah on what we voted on that to to vote we voted to not call the question then a substitute motion was made that substitute motion was voted on so now that motion's on the floor and then there was a friendly amendment made by council member Brown okay so the current motion that's on the floor is to agendize the Davis report for the first meeting in March okay yeah and I'd be happy to incorporate the two additional leftover pieces of the initial motion if that language is still available or we can just vote on this and then restate those the motion was split okay so we'll vote on these and the pieces that I'm going to okay so motion to agendize the Davis report for the first meeting in March all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed okay no sorry okay so that moves with council members Glover Crone member Matthews Brown myself voting in favor vice mayor Meyers and council member Watkins voting against no I voted for it but I would like the record to reflect that I only did so so that the item would in fact be agendized for discussion and we were left no other choice by the council majority and I'll just say for the record that I'm again working with council member Glover and our city staff to address these issues and follow a process that I was thinking would be appropriate and was going to planning on bringing this forward as well so but now we're going to bring it forward regardless and so it all works out okay there's two other pieces to this item this motion that were made and we need to resolve those as well so the other piece to the motion was to get an update from the human resources director on the progress of the ethics subcommittee and on February apparently it's going to be in and training as well right all that's yeah yeah yes and the motion was to do that on the 25th I won't be supporting that I'd like to have all of it happen at one time agreed with vice mayor Myers but I'll be voting no on the vote and so the motion would like to I'll make the so for the record I've been asking since December 10th upon receiving the report to agendize this discussion I would I would recommend that you vote on the motion that's in front of you so I will we will get an up so I make a motion to get an update on the work progress and timeline of the council ethics committee including the development of a code of conduct for council members and a structured process to address workplace misconduct complaints that are not directly accountable to the human resources department but may require council action including consequences for substantiated complaints and to receive reports from the human resources department and city managers office on current and anticipated steps for training on respectful workplace policies as well as conflict resolution immediate mediation efforts for March for the first meeting in March I'll second that so we've a motion made by Vice Mayor Meyers seconded by Mayor Cummings all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed that passes unanimously and then there was one more piece to this motion I don't know was that everything was that everything is that everything okay she included it all together okay great well I guess that concludes our meeting for this evening and so thank you all for joining us meeting adjourned