 I'd like to call the meeting of the city planning commission to order with the Ready to call the roll kid Sure, Mayor van der steen here older person born Jerry Jones Here Ryan sasma Marilyn Montemire here Dave Hoffman Don's feet on We have a quorum Very good. Next. Please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance Excuse me. Excuse me. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the public for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. I'm sorry sir. You're gonna have to continue that conversation later Sir, thank you. Next. We'll have an introduction of committee members Jim we'd like to start Lenny we're building inspection Mike van der steen mayor and chairman Chad Pellishek planning director Steve Silkovsky from the Planning Department Marilyn Montemay or citizen representative Ryan sasma Department of Public Works Jerry Jones vice chair and citizen member Very good Next I'd like to ask if anyone has a potential conflict of interest with any of the items on our agenda Seeing none, then we'll proceed with the minutes Astor a motion to approve the Planning Commission minutes for March 9th of 2021 Second thank you for that motion in support. Is there any discussion on the minute? Very good. All those in favor Signified by saying aye. Aye. Aye Opposed Motion passes Then we'll move on to items for discussion and possible action Item 3.1 is an application for conditional use with exceptions in a certified survey map by 645 South Taylor Drive owner equities LLC to create a new noodles parcel at Taylor Heights shopping center located at 549 South Taylor Drive Steve. Do you have a report on this? Yeah, thanks, mayor Thomas Trezynsky is here from Lamper Lee and associates and he is representing the owner on this matter and what we're taking a look at today is When you look at the Taylor Heights shopping center the noodles and the Taylor Heights shopping center are all presently on one parcel So if you take a look at the existing Map you can kind of see the blue outline and that's the one parcel. That's presently created there The applicant is proposing to parcel off the noodles parcel from the Taylor Heights shopping center Kind of familiar similar to the China buffet. That's over there China buffet is on its own parcel So what we're talking about today is The plant commission is looking at a certified survey map lot one is proposed to be 7.7 acres and would include a majority of the Taylor Heights shopping center parking facilities Latu is the proposed 0.59 acre parcel and that will Include the noodles and company from a use perspective. Nothing is changing It's strictly just creating this new parcel the applicant has included a note Just like yeah the applicant has included a note that just kind of identifies that new parcel and continues to Reference the previous reciprocal easement agreement pertaining to shared parking access and utilities So that was one of the things we wanted to make sure was a part of this because creating that new lot line the parcel doesn't necessarily have Access to a street, but it will share that access that's presently there So staff is recommending approval of the CSM that you have before you today the applicants here if there's any Questions and I can answer any questions. Thank you for that report Steve Would you like to make any comments? Just step up to the podium, please Yes, time equities had approached us about preparing the certified survey map For a possible sale of either the shopping center or the noodles just to maintain some flexibility in today's market We had a couple issues with this proposed lot split we could not maintain the payment setbacks So that's one of the variance requests. We are asking and then also the lot size Is does not the lot 2 does not meet the 1 acre requirement So that would be the other variance we requesting as part of the conditional use permit process So that the CSM could be be approved Thank you for those comments commissioners any questions or motions that those issues that issue will be right now there is a Joint use maintenance agreement between all the facilities in this complex Depending on how the buyers between the shopping center and noodles or if it's just one buyer determined they're going to do that It may be Multiple people that are doing the snow removal or it could be the same in individual Thank you, you're welcome then I accept the motion Move to approve subject to conditions Thank you for that motion and support one last call for any discussion on this item See none The clerk call the roll mayor van der scene. I older person born I Ryan sasma Jerry Jones I Marilyn Montemire David Huffman I all eyes motion passes Congratulations. Good luck with this stop this project. Thank you Moving on item 3.2 is an application and conditional use with exceptions and certified survey map by Smith co and Eder ease incorporated to create new Lots and construct and operate a Popeyes drive-through restaurant at 3207 South Business Drive the former rider truck site Steve Thanks, mayor. Is there anyone on line or in the audience here for this matter? Yeah, Mark Rodriguez is the CEO for Smith co eateries Hi mark Smith Smith co eateries is proposing to construct a new Popeyes restaurant at 3207 South Business Drive So this is the former rider truck facility, which is located between the former maple lanes I think that's gone now and South Town Mall Popeyes also known as Popeyes Louisiana kitchen is a fast food restaurant chain originally from Louisiana That mainly sells fried chicken some of the most popular chicken dishes include Popeyes chicken sandwich wings tenders nuggets and legs But you can also find popcorn shrimp and a variety of sides like mashed potatoes with gravy Cajun fries Cajun rice green beans Biscuits on their menu the Anticipated number of employees for this is 12 to 15 per shift with two shifts daily The restaurant itself will be approximately 2,600 square feet provides about 32 parking spaces The applicant will be creating the plant commission as part of this is also looking at a certified survey map to create two lots Lot one is 1.8 acres and that is the one that will include the Popeyes restaurant And lot two is proposed to be two acres and will be available for development in the future So that would be the south half of the property adjacent to the South Town Mall Construction of the restaurant is planned to commence as soon as possible The redevelopment of the former rider Truck property will upgrade the property and will increase the city's tax base This is estimated to be a 1.2 million dollar investment The applicant believes that Popeyes will add another vibrant business and attractive building to this section of South Business Drive couple of staff comments Applicant will be demolishing the existing rider truck facilities located on the north side of the property to construct the new Drive-through restaurant access to the site is proposed to come from the existing South Business Drive Drive driveway, and we'll also have a shared access agreement with the new lot to the south applicant does show a little bit of a Conceptual signage that's likely to go on the building No formal sign permit application has been submitted But that will be forthcoming and will probably be similar to what you're seeing on the building right now Staff just had a question in terms of the plan commission may want to talk to the applicant in terms of the Love that chicken tagline just to understand That that signage on the south side of the building Presently the property is one parcel and the applicant will be required to create the parcels as proposed And they show that they own the new lot prior to receiving a building permit if there would be any changes to the Parcel sizes or site plan. They would have to come back to the plan commission for review It appears that there are some contaminated soils on the east end of the property that are Intended to remain covered and capped with concrete and maybe the applicant could maybe address a little bit what the What will take place on that east end of the property in the timeframe maybe for those contaminants to be mitigated There's a six-foot chain leg fence on the north side of the property running from east to west And I'm not sure if this is on Popeyes parcel or the parcel to the north And if it's on property at Popeyes is the fence to be removed just a little bit of Clean up of the property in and of itself. There's some miscellaneous pallets along the east property line That'll be cleaned up as part of this And what will be the status of the property to the south? Will that remain hard-surfaced with the old Ryder truck building or does the applicant have any information on that plan? Commission may want to have the Applinix app can explain a little bit about Popeyes menu How did Popeyes select Sheboygan and explanation of the drive-through business compared to sit-down and The proposed Popeyes restaurant is a nice redevelopment of this former Ryder truck property and appears to be a nice fit with many of the commercial restaurants and retail service Establishments along South Business Drive and creating that second parcel will also allow for free future commercial development in the future applicant is Requesting two variances one is to have a paving setback of zero feet and that again is due to the fact that they're going to share Access with that property to the south and then requesting a variance from the locational landscaping requirements So staff is recommending approval of the conditional use and exceptions with the conditions that you have before you And I can answer any questions in the applicant's on my line. Thank you for that report Steve Would the applicant from Smith co eateries like to respond to the questions that Steve posed? I Guess maybe there's a lot of information. So I'm trying to navigate through it, you know one by one But as far as the lot we we did work out an agreement to buy the entirety of the lot from Ryder I was you know a little over three acres, which is substantially more than we would need to develop Popeyes And so I think the proposal was that we would utilize the northern portion of the the property to develop the Popeyes restaurant Which would leave us significant amount of property to a south parcel that would host a similar structured Business whether it be another restaurant or something in that that scope So we would intend to sell off that portion to another developer or possibly develop it for someone else if they chose to As far as the you question about the contaminated soils Because of that we didn't want to get too deep off into the process of having to dig out a bunch of ground So our plan was to leave it capped and undisturbed We don't have any tentative plans to develop that back portion of the lot as it stands right now I'm sure that if we we decided to try to do something within the future. We would revisit the city to see What we would need to do about that, but we the depth of the lot was more than what we would need to host an adequate parking So we had no intention of disturbing it at this time I wrote down I guess about the fence across the north we have no record of it So it's not anything that we would want to keep Unless the city wanted it there So we would likely remove it if if it was on our property if it's on the northern property We have no control of that. I guess Status of the south lot there is no Predetermined status of the south lot we would hope to like I said sell it off to another developer in the future Some other questions. I think that's most of them You asked about why should boy again? I believe I can touch on that to make her eateries Signed a development agreement with Papa's Louisiana kitchen to develop 15 restaurants and the corridor of Wisconsin that stretches from the Lake Michigan coastline all the way across to the Wisconsin the Minnesota border where you have all clear across We started with our development efforts in the Green Bay Appleton area We have a restaurant and find a lack as well as mana to walk as well So should boy again as a natural fit for that market, you know the population densities are strong enough to support a Restaurant the community strong enough to support. I feel like there's enough demand in the market for it So we we were very interested in coming into sheboygan I was just a matter of finding the right piece of property that made sense And so we feel like we found that in this dislocation But we do have plans to develop a total of 15 restaurants across that entire section of Wisconsin Thank you for responding to all those questions Maryland Montemayor. Oh, thank you. Oh, mr. Rodriguez My daughter-in-law called me early this morning to she read in the newspaper Popeyes is coming and she was so excited because she and our grandson drive to mana to walk to eat Popeyes And you say you're going across Wisconsin. You're going to Eau Claire also that is wonderful Eau Claire will love to have Popeyes Yes, man. We we definitely plan to be in Eau Claire and the cross as well as probably Wausau Stevens points and places along the way but the Fox River Valley area was really our priority to start with just because of the Just the opportunities that were kind of there to kind of build a good market from there and spread out from from that point So I'd like to make a motion to approve subject to staff recommendations A second thank you for that motion and support under discussion Yes, Mark. I just have a question. Do you know the nature of the contamination on the property where the other gas tanks in there? There there were some underground tanks that Ryder had prior I do know that we did get a letter from DNR that basically was no further action required But of course if the area were to be disturbed there would be the potential of contamination to be Reconciled so I know I think the extent of it was some underground tanks whether it be fuel tanks or something. I'm not really positive You know Excel may have some additional information on that But I know that where the where the DNR designated the area that was of concern Was kind of in a location that wasn't necessarily inflicting on where we would need to develop the restaurant so To avoid the risk of getting in you know too deep We just decided the best course of action and initially was to avoid the area altogether Sounds good. Thank you Alderperson barn Thank You mayor Sir, I was wondering if the love that chicken that you have on the side of the building Is that a registered trademark or a logo? That's my Me Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Yes. It is a registered trademark for pop-up Thank you, and then what is the seating capacity inside going to be at this location Dining room capacity is 42 seats. I believe with a maximum occupancy is somewhere in like the 56th ish range. I'm not exactly positive, but actual dining seats is about 42 Thank you Any other questions? See none all those no, we have to call the roll mayor van der steen I older person born I Ryan sasma Jerry Jones I Marilyn Montemire Dave Hoffman. I all eyes motion passes congratulations and welcome to Sheboygan Thank You guys item 3.3 is an application and conditional use with exceptions by Marietta Moreno to Operate a daycare facility located at 1720 North A Street Steve Thanks, mayor Marietta Moreno is here as well as her architect Luis Barbosa and then we do have Couple neighbors here Keith and Dixie Hummich And they live in the residence directly to the north of the project tonight Marietta Moreno is proposing to operate a new daycare facility at 1720 North A Street this which recently purchased in January of 2021 the existing building is divided into two parcels the building is attached with a zero lot line and The north half of the building is identified as 1720 North A Street Which is the one more taken a look at today for the daycare The north half of the property is vacant was previously occupied by the Wisconsin spine center on the upper level and Midwest home care On the lower level the south half of the property is presently occupied by Samaritan's hands of faith-based drug and alcohol outpatient clinic The proposed project calls for the occupancy of the north half of the building to operate a children's daycare on both levels The proposed children's daycare in this building will operate from 6 a.m. To 6 p.m. Monday through Friday The site was selected because the building is in good condition and has plenty of off-street parking plenty of space for outdoor children's play area The daycare center will have approximately seven child care assistants and the owner Three classrooms will be on the lower level and four classrooms will be on the upper level The indoor activities will concentrate on the care of the children entrusted to the daycare with emphasis on Bilingual language cultural social emotional and cognitive areas There is adequate space for an outdoor playground area adjacent to the rear of the building and the outdoor activities will concentrate of on motor skills of the arms legs hands and basic mental cognition such as sensation attention perception and reasoning The applicant indicates the following with regards to some site improvements to take place on the site a new handicap Accessible ramp will provide access to the first floor level a new dumpster enclosure will be included a new six foot wood Fence will be installed on the north and south sides of the property to provide privacy to the adjacent neighbors and safety for the daycare center a New six foot chain link fence with safety bollards will be installed in the outdoor children's play area The existing parking lot in the back of the building provides 18 parking spaces And the property has an existing driveway to enter and exit the parking lot without infringing on the property rights of the privacy of the adjacent properties 1720 north a street had previously been used as a health care and the applicant is now converting the space into Daycare facilities so they'll be required to meet the building codes in the state of requirements to operate that daycare The applicant understands that the adjoining building to the south is presently occupied by Samaritan's hands and The faith-based and drug and alcohol outpatient clinic Apkin is proposing to fence the south property line Which is presently open and permits cross access and parking to each of the buildings Once the fence would be installed access and parking between the neighboring Properties would no longer be possible So it's up to the applicant to verify that there's no access or parking agreements between that before installing that fence Six foot high chain link fence with privacy slats around the perimeter of the new outdoor Playground located between the west end of the building in the parking lot And the applicant does show four foot tall bollards and fight at five feet on center to protect the playground From the vehicles the applicant is proposing a six foot high solid fence around the perimeter of the north and southwest property lines Appears that much of the common line between 1728 North a street and the neighboring residents at 1726 North Street a street is paved surface And that's the Hummich is home and we probably have some comments from them with regards to some concerns about fencing in that area In addition the driveway of the residents at 1720 sir is right on that property line So before installing a fence if one is to be installed I want to make sure it's on the property and we want to make sure that it is not blocking Any type of vision for the Hummich property as they pull in and out of their driveways So we'll probably have a little discussion on that Again applicants proposing a new handicap around and they are requesting An exception to maintain the existing zero foot paving setback to the north and south property lines and staff was Recommending approval of the conditional use subject to the conditions you have before you the applicants are here and I can answer any questions as well Steve, thank you for that report Would the applicant like to make any comments? And the only comment that I wanted to make is that make him aware that We understand the concern of the neighbor regarding the fence. They have indicated that the fence provides limitations for the maneuvering Our intention was to provide the fence basically to protect their privacy But if it's infringing into The use of the driveway we have no problem removing the portion of the fence To accommodate their needs Can I ask a question real quick would with the Hummiches have any problems if they wanted to fence it if they started You know say for example at the end of the garage or something to that effect So if that might be something that if you wish to do something like that you could certainly consider that of course Go ahead Luis if there's anything you would like to add with regards to just the use and and why she chose here And and what needs she's trying to meet in terms of the daycare She personally has a daycare in Milwaukee and she wants to relocate to Sheboygan For the civility the security the safety and also to provide services to the under-deserved Hispanic growing population And she's bringing a special services not just the care of the babies, but bilingual by cultural Educational services for the Hispanic community and anybody else this would like to participate Okay, well, thank you for those comments Commissioners, do you have any questions? Mayor how much is we like to make any statement? Please step to the podium then Oh, my name is Keith homage Thank you My name is Keith homage. I live at 1726 North 8th The property is just north of the property you want to change We have the shared driveway, which we have discussed now for the fence I have taken care of that driveway for three years For snow, I've cut the grass on that property for three years for your charge Because the owner that owned it would never pay me I got this notice on Saturday. I Have very little knowledge of what was going on until what I'm hearing now What I learned was from Samaritan hands and that was just kind of piecemeal Here are a few of my concerns. Okay, we talked about the hours of operation How many children are they talking about that? Hasn't been addressed the location of the playground It's gonna be noisy that's where I'm wondering about Okay, now they addressed that they're gonna have their staff. That's kind of one of my questions Okay, I've been in that house for 70 years. I grew up in that house So I know that neighborhood it's been a quiet neighborhood for 70 years Now it's gonna get noisy I'm wondering what it's gonna do to my property for resale value Because you're gonna find a lot of people that ain't gonna want to live there So I'm just wondering about that Okay, I Understand where they want to put the playground Because there's a noise in that I actually thought it'd be better place in the back. You got because that playgrounds only 42 feet from our Backdoor and Our windows in the kitchen and in the dining room, so we will never be able to have them open in the summer months There's 30 feet of grass back there and a black top asphalt is adjacent to that Bigger concern that I believe the panel should be worrying about is the building itself Wisconsin spine moved out of there because of roof leaks mold and mildew in the walls and ceilings This is probably due to the flat the fact that the roof was done by fly-by-nighters that came in Which we had to have the police remove from our backyard here We're camping out back there and using our backyard as a latrine and a toilet I called Jack about it the company that Had going up there. They weren't even licensed bonded or insured He pulled them off from down there. They did not speak English But they were already had half of the roof done now. They went over the top of two other layers Right over the gravel Didn't tear anything off They put new beaver board down rubber roofing and I do know what I'm talking about because I worked for books and Construction and I did rubber roofing That rough is a sponge If you walk on it, it's like walking on a water bed That is one of the reasons why Tim left there because his patients from the mold and the mildew were getting sick and they were complaining And that's still there. I mean, that's what Tim had to cover up his equipment all the time The basement leaks is got standing water along with mold and I have seen that myself The overhangs are so full That the water actually runs out of the outside lights out of the fixtures There is no water that I see coming out of the downspouts So I don't even know where the water goes there's moss Growing out of the overhangs on the fascia I Think before to even even consider about putting Any children inside there this is all got to be corrected. I don't know what how you how the city could allow it to Have the mold and the mildew What children in there? I considered it's a health and a safety factor Also, I don't know if they're aware that Samaritan hand Also has pedophiles over there. How is that going to affect their business? That's their livelihood They have drug drug people coming there mere people coming out of jail How is that going to affect their business also? That's about all I can say Thank you for those comments Steve. Um, I think the one best thing that you just summed up is that there are a lot Of issues there and that you have someone who's interested in investing in the property Who's got an architect who's gonna have to work with the city in terms of the building plans and everything necessary to get in There so I think one of the things right off the bat You speak of a number of concerns about how it's been handled and the structure itself You finally have someone there who's willing to invest and do what's necessary to improve the property thereby making your property values probably better than what it has been previously With regards to the fencing they've indicated they want to work with you in terms of allowing the driveway So you can see there's some relationship building that could be done To work together They're investing in this property. They want to be there just like you guys. I'm sure they don't want to have any issues They're cleaning the property So I would just suggest that you continue to work with one another And that louise as architect will take a look at these things Because without getting these things taken care of you can't get an occupancy permit So so with regards to the the playground I guess I would let the moranos speak to that they indicate their hours are 6 to 6 p.m. The 6 or 6 a.m. To 6 p.m But I can't imagine they want to put the playground in the back with the winter and having kids You know, I would imagine they want to have it as close as possible So I don't that part. I can't give you a great answer on but as far as everything else I think they've come in they've tried to work with the city in terms of Getting the building together so that it is improved and that it is better in the neighborhood Than what you have right now My name is dixie how much I live with my husband keith on the property 1726 north 8th What I wanted to find out is if this place next door with the samaritan hands have sexual predators and drug You know addicts and we have found needles in the parking lot and everything else that you can imagine Is there not a law that you have to be so many Feet apart for having children in that environment I think you have to have like so many feet that they cannot be around pedophiles So I don't think that's a really good thing for children to be over there I think that it's if they're staying overnight I don't know if there's any input from the chief that he could help out But I believe that that's for a transition actual staying overnight and there's no one staying overnight at the samaritan's hands All right, I just wanted to respond to that question Sure, there there isn't the ordinance deals with with residences where people live nobody lives at the clinic. It's a clinic There's offices there that Intake and things like that are done and then there's one-on-one treatment group treatment and meetings that are held there I personally am not aware of any sex offenders that currently receive services there Occasionally somebody who is a sex offender and is in recovery Maybe receiving services there and that would all be Coordinated either through their probation or parole officer Or or the state if the state still has jurisdiction over them And so that would all be worked out and approved if they're going to be going there To get services And so I would stress very much so that samaritan's hand is a great asset to our community and the people that are there Are people in recovery and it really increases the safety of our community not makes it more dangerous Then why do we find needles in the parking lot? I mean, what's that safe? I found them myself already a couple people have found on the neighbors on the other side have found them And they picked them up and threw them in the dumpster. So I don't think that's safe Thank you for your comments Marilyn montemare. Did you had your light on I did but could I speak after jim boran speaks? Okay, jim I have a question for the architect, please Sir, do you know if there was a pre pre inspection of the building by your clients before the building was purchased? They're aware that the building has several deficiencies. They understand That the roof needs attention. They understand there was some partial water penetration at the present time. There's no smells Of water penetration. They know that the building needs attention What about mold? Huh, what about the mold? I'm no expert on mold, but I did not see any mold there. No, if that if that is the issue Uh, will city staff see that that's remediating? I'm trying to say the word Remediated We as part of the occupancy We're not we're not mold experts either But I would believe that this is going to need some state licensing for Daycare so the state is going to have to sign off on that before the city would even sign off Now this is the initial step that we're taking We're here in front of the board to verify if we are going to be allowed to have the special use The understanding is that after we go through that step, then we will explore the options With the building inspection department to obtain the necessary permits The inspections and occupancy and approval by the state But we need to go through this step before we continue investing money Uh question. I guess this might be for staff Or Well for staff the other half of the building that's occupied Do they have the same roof issues and leak issues and mold issues as this half of the building? And if if that's true Is that going to affect? Affect their use I'm not aware of that at this moment in time Usually if there is something up We would have some type of contact or hear from someone that there may be some issues We haven't heard that at this point in time. I can't sit here and say I know a hundred percent But we certainly have not heard that to be the case Well, I would think that you know, I would think if there's going to be children in that building And there's any possibility of transfer of that mold and and that type of thing Over to this facility that definitely should be checked out before they get an occupancy permit for their for their staff safety and the kids and the kids safety Thank you Marilyn, thank you I think the daycare center would be a great addition to the city of shabuagan And I love the location and I love the idea that you're going to do it multicultural That's important. I'd like to make a move a motion to approve subject to staff recommendations Thank you for that motion. Is there a second I got a question mayor Would you like to second then we'll have discussion I'll second. Thank you very much. Now you can have the floor I just want to touch touch on this fence a little bit. I know you talked about privacy Are you sure you want that fence pushed back to the edge of your garage? Because we we want to make that as part of the motion or do you want to extend it all the way? Okay You're sure Okay, from the front of your garage all the way to the west, okay Because I know you picked up I know you had some concerns with with uh safety or quietness and all that but okay I just want to make sure that you don't change your mind. Okay, actually could I ask one more question on that? Do you know if mr. How much if your garage is pretty close to the property line and if the fence got put up would that impact anything in terms of maintenance Okay, so there would be room to maintain it if they put the fence adjacent to it Okay, okay Sounds good. I just didn't want to make sure if it was a foot on there and they put the fence in now Okay Any other discussion Dave Yeah, I'm just curious in regards to uh, the noise issue that you raised Do you know about what percentage of the time that you'd have the kids outside? Obviously, it's weather related But uh, what percentage of the day would you actually be using the playground? Available playground allows for the use of one third the children And not so not all of them are there at the same time they come out for an hour for 35 minutes and The ages are the infants up to five years old and then Maybe 12 years old But in regards to the noise you have children, you know And the playground is small enough is right in the back of the building And the distance is roughly 40 50 feet from From the property Okay, thank you Older person boring. Thank you, mayor I'm gonna I'm gonna vote to approve this because I do think it's a very good concept for the For the neighborhood and and there is a big need for daycare. However, I am I am going to support it with the caveat that I hope that All of my concerns as far as the mold and that type of thing both in the Existing the existing tenant and how that will reflect on on on on the daycare center That that's taken care of before any occupancy permits are issued. Thank you Thank you for those comments Any last discussion see none with a clerk call the roll Mayor vanderstein hi older person born hi Ryan sasma hi jerry jones Hi Motion passes. Good luck with your project. I hope we can make all the changes and that's comfortable for everyone Thank you The next item is item 3.4, which is an application for a conditional use with exceptions by Tim fettig to operate a verlo mattress store from the multi-tenant facility located at 43 15 south taylor drive Steve. All right. Thanks, mayor Mr. Fettig's here and he has operated verlo mattress factory stores of greater shabuigan for 23 years opening in 1999 or 1998 starting at taylor heights and then moving to their current location on south business drive in november of 2001 verlo is proposing to operate from the 5,000 square tenant space for unloading of raw materials warehousing manufacturing assembly of products for delivery to customers retail sales and wholesale sales At the sub band this is located at the south end of the building previously used by diamond vulgar paint Verlo manufactures and assembles the products that they sell on a daily basis They're proposing uh is proposing a store where the mattresses are produced in the showroom space Verlo will confine and combine manufacturing and assembly of mattress with the showroom space helping customers understand Verlo is factory direct verlo will receive raw materials sort materials move materials on carts to production tables Located in the showroom area and the completed mattresses will be moved to the warehouse for delivery to the customers Verlo selected the site because it's ideally positioned to offer both manufacturing and sales in a showroom space Uh verlo will receive the raw materials and mattresses will be assembled and manufactured for delivery to customers Show will show room will combine manufacturing in retail space The wide open design of the space is perfect for a layout of a combined assembly and retail showroom and the availability of a loading dock and driving access for unloading raw materials and Loading finished goods for delivery to the customer Mr. Fed egg said he's tired of carrying product into his place and appreciates the fact of a loading dock There would be four employees and uh At this site the applicant has provided some conceptual drawings on signage But no formal signage has been presented So we'll work together on that and they've provided some conceptual drawings as to how the exterior could be renovated And we'll continue working with the applicant on that There are a couple of conditions one of the interesting aspects of this was When you think of verlo mattress and mr. Fed egg You can probably help explain this a little better than I Is that you think of the retail store on south business drive and going in the industrial park? How exactly does this work? There is a section in the ordinance that does allow for an accessory Portion of retail sales and the applicant is requesting a variance to have a little bit more Usually it's 25 percent of that space and And approximately 35 percent of this is dedicated to warehouse and approximately 65 percent is combined showroom and production assembly So when I was initially speaking with mr. Fed egg, I didn't know how we are going to meet that but I think Maybe he could explain to everyone that how the showroom is used and how the assembly takes place and how I believe now he is meeting the requirements and staff will be recommending approval But I think mr. Fed egg Maybe you could explain to the commission a little bit in terms of that process and what you did for me to better understand it Perfect. Thank you, Steve First of all, thanks for even hearing hearing me out on this. We're asking things that are a little bit outside of the norm verlo's been around for a long time and We're a franchisee my wife and I own the store in manatee walk where we have a factory in a showroom together In the same space And in shaboy and we've always wished we could build or assemble mattresses here locally And we just have never had the ability to do that. Well with changes in technology and Some kind of new focus of our franchise or They really want to bring the production right into the consumer space because Consumers aren't used to the fact that we literally build them. I mean we do the assemblies ourselves and One of the cool parts of this concept is Customers will be able to see mattresses in different stages of Production right on in the showroom itself. They'll be, you know Most of production will happen early in the day that we'll have sales kind of midday and deliveries And then the store will close at six o'clock and you just closed in the evenings But it's it's really kind of a unique it's different It doesn't really fit anywhere like if we're in a commercial space where we are now we can't we can't manufacture there And in the manufacturing place we can't really sell there. So we're we're This space was just kind of very unique in the fact that there are other sales happening, maybe not Of mattresses, but of other things HVAC Pump parts there's different retail sales happening there And we just thought that would be a great combination of of where we're actually building it People can see it and experience their product being assembled and manufactured and then delivering it right from here in sheboygan It just uh And actually interestingly enough We can we do comfort adjustments. I don't know if you're all familiar but we because we build them You can sleep on the mattress and if it ends up being too firm or too soft We can actually bring your mattress right back to the factory and in some instances do a comfort adjustment right in your home But right now we still have to use some machinery to do that So right we've been having to haul all the mattresses back up to maneth walk and then back down here to sheboygan This gives us the ability to be able to do some of that right here so it just saves mileage on the truck and And really kind of uniquely gives us the ability to have customers come right to the showroom And we can make the comfort adjustment where they try the bed with what we're Adding or taking away right there in the showroom. So it's it's pretty unique Way to do it Okay, thank you for those comments. Are there any other questions jim Uh mayor, thank you, mayor. I would make a motion to approve subject to staff conditions Thank you for that motion and support Are the motions on the floor? Is there any further discussion? Marilyn Thank you, which has nothing to do with your business whatsoever at all But your name mr. Fettig which I haven't heard in many years 60 years ago when I lived in new york city and worked in new york city. I dated a mr. Fettig If it was my dad, I'm sorry I We are all related I just don't know where that is It is interesting. That's very interesting. Well with that, I'll ask for a vote on the motions Please call the roll Okay, mayor van der steen. Hi ultra person born. Hi, right sasmo. Hi cherry jones Hi Motion passes congratulations and good luck with your ear and ever here. Thank you guys so very much. Yep. Appreciate it Okay, we're looking at uh april 13th for our next meeting and then jerry. Do you have a motion for us? Make a motion to adjourn Second thank you for that motion and support all in favor of adjournment. Please signify by saying I Opposed motion passes. We stand adjourned. Thank you for your time today. Thanks everybody