 Will Peeper, Senior Massage Sergeant, Aerospace Ground Equipment Supervisor, 133rd Airlift Wing. I'm part of the Air National Guard CEDAR, which is Crash Down Disabled Aircraft Recovery Program for the Air National Guard Instructor. Individuals from all over the country that is part of their curriculum as being a team chief to do an actual lift of aircraft and recover aircraft on site. The Air National Guard members do their locations. We're lacking in some of the training and some of the equipment that they even had. They contacted me from Vogue Field to move a C-130 fuselage from Fort McCoy to Vogue Field to use as a training aircraft not only for the local law enforcement as used for air marshal training but also using it for an aircraft recovery and fire department trainings where it really started. Then we were able to come up with F-16 and then the C-130 to get a multi-aircraft roll because Air National Guard as a whole we have fighters and heavies and we wanted to make it into a better program. The problem is usually on-counter most of the time is aircraft with IFE they have an engine failure in flight or they have a landing gear failure that it wouldn't come down things can happen when it lands veer off the runway or even in bad weather like we have here in Minnesota snow, ice, it'll slide off the runway and get bogged down and then we would have to recover that aircraft in a timely manner to open up the runways. In the case of, it was in October when the KC-130 GA model was the Marines I got a phone call from the Guard Bureau CDAR program manager for technical advice even though it was a GA model the airframe was pretty much the same. Mentally and physically be able to still do your job, recover the aircraft with no further damage is really what it is and keep everything there so the investigation to find out the underlying problem why the aircraft crashed why, what was the incident on there so it doesn't happen again that we use and learn from those lessons we use our wing resources and our knowledge since we've been in the C-130 business for a long time here and being as we say at the top of the chain here we do very well with our C-130s think about it, you know you got to be kind of crazy to be a team chief in doing this on aircraft recovery when you're out there in the middle of a crash site and the smoke is starting to clear and it's very stressful if you want to challenge it can be challenging it can be stressful but at the end of the day when that plane is recovered you have it set or the end of the week or if it takes you a month to recover that aircraft it's a sense of reward that you will never find anywhere else