 I feel like this is where we make the disclaimer that it is 9 30 after a very long day Even if you're watching this every 11 o'clock in the morning. We're not exactly fresh-brained Yeah Not Scott Manley Hi guys, I'm Amy share a title and you may know me from vintage space the YouTube channel where I Go through weird minutiae in spaceflight history Who we sit down with a sweater on and then it gets warm so today? I am joined by the real Scott Manley Introduce yourself for your own audience. Well, hello, I'm Scott Manley I am best known as an astronaut on the internet Not really an astronaut. In fact, I'm not even qualified to fly a plane But I do fly spaceships on the internet Awesome, and yeah, and so what are we doing today day? I mean you you emailed me or DM'd me on Twitter rather with the brilliant idea that I've been wanting to do for ages of Let's build a dinosaur Would you a dinosaur? You mean like a pterodactyl is not the t-rex, which for me. This means t-rex arms the dinosaur as in the dynamic soaring gliding vehicle that the US Air Force and the NACA and the US Navy Developed but never launched never flew in the late 1950s and early 1960s They had such big plans for this. There was so many awesome ideas. They had which you know They all tried to do in one thing in the shuttle, right? So funny because I am it's not like ha ha funny but because one of the the talks that I give a lot of places is about dinosaur and I always bill it as the space shuttle America didn't know it wanted before it got one that it didn't really need Yeah, and I took your thing literally and I did actually build a flying dinosaur and Kerbal space program Remember you putting that up on Twitter. It was pretty epic. I feel like this is where we cut away and show that So anyway, yes, we are getting started here And I figure actually it's an important moment before we get started that we talked about what we're drinking Yeah, so I have Down to earth by 21st Amendment which features ham the chimpanzee on it Having returned from his mission on Mercury. Yep He's a relaxing on a shore and You know chilling out got a hold this up to that camera there as well, right? I'm not drinking very well tonight. I don't know I was just like, you know when you just get a weird craving for something. You're like, yeah, I'm a grown-up I can do what I want. I'm drinking not your father's ginger ale It's it's the same it's the same brewery that does it small-time brewery that does that not your father's root beer So it's five point nine percent, which is kind of awesome, but it's just delicious and honestly like It's just been one of those days. I wanted something tasty and I don't have any chocolate in the house But I did have some boozy ginger ale. So I'm drinking boozy ginger ale. So cheers Okay, what I'm looking for is something at the back So this is the cockpit we're gonna have to go with and you'll notice that the nose kind of goes up here But I looked at the other cockpits and this is the closest thing we have to a dinosaur But um, so this is what dinosaur looks like It looks like a tiny like a mini shuttle with little popped-up wings on the side flat bottom and Room for one man and instrument bay and an engine and that's about it and a ham sandwich and ham sandwich Yeah, so that's important Do you know what kind of engine it was supposed to have that's why I was looking for my technical dinosaur book And I can't find it cuz I don't remember off the top of my head what the engine was You know all the technical things and I know the technical like history of the program development. So Do you know how long it was supposed to be habit that again reference? I don't have the reference book with me off the top of my head. I just can't remember Okay, I don't know why can't I find that book? This is driving me nuts Yeah, that's what the pirate I'm gonna I'm gonna take a quick gander here. You found it. Okay So now we get the fun of watching me flip through a book Yeah, so I need to know roughly how big and You know that kind of thing pair for these little Well, if you're gonna be setting the challenge, oh, no, I guess I was the one that set the challenge Do you set the challenge on this one? I? Accepted your challenge which you had previously laid down technically Who cares about technicalities come on now Technicalities are the difference between flying and crashing into the ground. I mean true Okay, okay, so I okay, there's like a whole this book is awesome It's a whole bunch of technical papers And all kinds of details bit things as it developed. So I am looking at Let me just figure it what Okay, this is According to an early 1961 is roughly the date that we're getting this From nose to tail it was 304 Inches inches you're doing the spinal tap thing spinal tap thing You never seen spinal tap. Oh nothing. I was a kid 18-foot I've lived they ordered an 18-foot stonehenge and got an 18 inch tall Personally, I do not think the problem was that the band was off I think the problem was that there was a stone edge on the stage It was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf Yes, so wait, how many meters? Could you do it in meters? Yeah, I'm just putting this on the I'm gonna pull up my conversion calculator So we might lose my video for a second here I'm trying to make something that's a ruler here. This is about seven meters long I think seven is probably too short I just want to get roughly the right proportions here seven point seven two meters long 7.72 meters so actually the cockpit width is The six tiny 1.3 meters What? Yeah, oh my wait, how does somebody even fit into that? That's why I just said this thing tiny and the wingspan like from so it's shaped like a bit of a triangle, right? the wingspan from the rear is is Just under 4.3 meters. Are you sure the cockpits that small? Well, unless unless it is actually 52 feet The two lines here's the two So here's the problem one means feet, right? Right. Yeah, this this here is a 1.2 1.25 meter cockpit Right, and that is a two meter cockpit, right? So which one looks more likely Top of the bottom, I mean the bottom I guess but at the same time It's all relative, right? I mean I Mean, I guess I haven't looked at the wings actually how many cuz this is one man This is this is a single pilot, right? Like it's not meant to have a crew Oh golly, that is so the fuselage Shit fuselage size is about 1.3 you think That seems too small The width of the fuselage, so this is not the wings, right? This is the right the fuselage The width of the cabin is 52 inches 52 inches and that's like one and a half meters 1.32 meters Man this will first start the texture on that is wrong. Well I'm I'm less concerned of this aesthetics and more concerned entertainment value. This is historical accuracy It's curbin. It's not earth. Oh actually this is earth. This is gonna be earth-scaled really Oh, yeah, so this is fine doing real numbers. Yeah, so that's why I'm asking for the real numbers here We just went on like rough Yeah, look okay. Yeah, looks good. Yeah, but no no we have the science Yeah, we have to do it for realsies as the kids Oh my god really is this the it's tiny the thing is tiny This is the one. Oh my god. I'm always get this mixed up. It's so cute Neil Armstrong develops the launch abort procedure for the dinosaur and he did it using a Sky Lancer Okay, maybe the Sky Lancer and the skyrocket mixed up I always because because Scott Crossfield broke Mach 2 in the other one Those things I always have to like double checks. Okay, who did what and what and uh, yeah So it's it's I mean that was a small plane. It's not a huge plane This is so tiny. I can't believe this reconfigured that plane to have roughly the same aerodynamic characteristics as the dinosaur to work at the launch abort procedures in 62 um So yeah, it's not a it's not a big vehicle Yeah, so that's a seven meter long. I'm using this this extra bit as a ruler Which is kind of cheating or it's not cheating. It's just kind of convenient. So this this is roughly the right size So we can actually do it like correct mass and everything if we're wanting to be proper nerds about this Of course, that does mean that if we're not Neil Armstrong, it'll probably crash because you know Neil Armstrong was actually pretty good at this Yeah, I heard that he did some awesome things. Do you hear about that whole uh, moon landing? I did I did as a matter of fact, although the internet tells me that I'm wrong for believing it Well, what does the internet know? Oh, the internet is just so full of opinions right now. The internet is full of opinions But uh, you you know, the great thing is that in america, we are allowed to have our own opinions Yes, yes, but in reality, you're not allowed to have your own facts Also true. I'm so i'm putting these wings kind of far back. I think That now how high is that it looks good. What we need is control surfaces here, right? Yes You know, I'm a physicist and I get people correcting me about my you know Law Newton's laws. I always get Newton's second law mixed up. Which one is the second? It was second and third. He's third is equal to reaction second is force mass times acceleration Oh, and the first one is something needs something to get going. That's obviously not how newton described it Let's be clear an object in motion You know without not subject to any force. We just keep moving in the same way. Yeah Oh, man. How's that? That's looking pretty sweet. That actually looks awesome. That actually looks really good Yeah, um, now what we're gonna need is reaction control thrusters We're gonna need a little engine adapter I'm using these like fuel tanks here because I can then fill them or empty them to create the exact of mass Yeah, so I'm just shrinking that down and then we can make something onto the back just to make sure this flies but I think so you have control surfaces on the the Oh my god, technical is not me the up a bit of the wings of the back and also the flat bit on the wings in the back Yeah, we've got these Horizontal and vertical stabilizers basically Yeah, so we're just gonna apply yaw control to these and disable pitch control And the other way around here So I am concerned That I don't have a separate set of controls for adjusting my roll versus yaw pitch Which will probably mean lead to me nosing down every time I try to roll the aircraft But you know, whatever you're the you're the internet pilot I'm the internet pilot again not qualified to actually fly a real aircraft. Why can't you fly a real aircraft? Because I've never got flying lessons yet But you're not like unable to you could do it. No, I could yeah. In fact, I've found out There is another guy called scott manly who teaches people to fly planes. You should you should fly with him It would be great We'll figure it out Okay, we're loading high-test peroxide into it that should actually be flyable. You know what I've had enough sitting around I'm going to try flying this somewhere now. We need to find an engine We're just going to use like a solid rocket motor. Those are awful wings, but we don't really care We just need it to not flip around as soon as it launches. So um So I'm going to call this stonehenge after uh, you know final tap. Okay Uh possibly I'm going to launch ready. All right. Oh So much for that. That was the best non-launch ever. What just happened? Did you uh apparently we were too heavy Oh, wow thrust. Well, actually so my thrust to mass ratio is point eight one So maybe we'll actually start to lift off when it reaches one I'm just going to hold on until then. Okay Uh, maybe let here I'll use my little thrusters Oh, yeah point nine We're getting ready to take any time soon Anytime soon. I like that. It's just building up but into the pavement Point nine seven point nine eight point nine nine And it should start going No, it's actually stuck on the ground. It's clearly middle there. I see it moving Oh my god, can you imagine real rockets to that? Yeah Just like sat dead on the ground Well, there was atlas ones that did that right? They sat in the pad and the Angels didn't generate enough thrust. Didn't they have but wasn't it stuck on hold down arms? It wasn't just like sitting on the ground because if it was sitting directly on the ground The fire would just melt up the rocket wouldn't it? Well, it exploded. Yeah, and then and then the reaction being an explosion. Um There's only some graphical glitches here because I was trying to make this thing look more Um, you see there's supposed to be cities and stuff here that we can drop stuff on Oh, and we're now actually going downhill here Oh, yeah, noise is really starting to drop Look bit survived for a few more seconds But it was able to fly Nothing survived. He's dead. He's gone. He's gone. Amy. Oh cute. I hate killing them He's brave. He knew what he signed up for fair This isn't gonna totally work if we can't shoot in the video, but I just Sumbled on a graphic. I haven't looked at his book in ages But a graphic of what the pilot looks like in the cockpit. So you said it looked small Yeah Okay, so it's like he's flying a glider. He like he put it on he didn't get into it. He put it on Yeah, it's like the mercury. Yeah pretty much Okay, booster character. So booster characteristics for the titan 2. Are we doing titan 2 configuration or titan 3? Uh, it doesn't matter because the titan 2 and the titan 3 I thought they were both basically the same but the titan 3 has the srb's on the side. Yeah. Um So here's okay. There's a space launch system proposed in 1961 for dinosaur Oh, yeah, I mean they they tried a whole lot of things. Yeah Yeah, I just like that it was called the space launch system, which is you know, right sls what we have now What we're getting whether we like it or not. No I guess what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna take this and build out the first stage of the Titan. I just don't remember we can we can come back to it I'm trying to remember the name of the first stage engines and the titan Tight, okay the titan 2 lr 91 aj 5 second stage sustainer engine had one gas generator nozzle Aj 5 did you see? Yes Which swiveled to provide roll control Wait, how we have aj 10s aj 10 Oh man, yeah, this is Okay, I guess we're not we're not doing that. I'm looking for the first stage now. That's what I'm looking for I was just I was just going first on that looks like like dinosaur on a rough trajectory. I didn't uh, yeah I figure I can I think I have the parts though. I know I have the parts, but I was gonna you know Ah, oh, these are all parts that claim to be associated. Oh, look. Here's the lr 87 booster, which is what I now I remember What is mod like what is this? This is this is realistic progression. Yeah has everything So you can start out with uh, you know the x1 and then fly the x15 as soon as you can build them and not kill yourself Yeah, yeah Yeah So what we're gonna need of course on this is bigger wings It's very important to have big big wings on this upper stage because The center of You know center of a lift or whatever is going to be so far forward So I'm gonna put on these big things. We did this with von brawn if you remember And it mostly flew Right mostly um, but the titan 2 does not have fins No, but they they if you look at the pictures of it launching on a titan 2, I know they add the big fins Yeah So we're going yeah We're going with the fantasy rather than the reality because the reality Yeah, who adds reality when you can have the fantasy of a dinosaur So, yeah, this is a real world incidentally. This is real scale and everything we have to get up to eight kilometers per second Oh my god, it is earth Yeah Wow Yeah, I get my stuff figured out here. That looks awesome Yeah It's not gonna lift off very quickly. That's okay So the engines have to spool up to speed There we go and there let it go and it oh man. This is where it could really use the titan 3 Strap some boosters on it. Yeah more boosters More boosters now. Here's the thing. What way do I want to actually fly this? I'm gonna let it go upwards a little further What how mad I'm look I'm curious now that I think about it The mass of dinosaur with one pilot versus the mass of gemini with two pilots Oh, I'm sure dinosaur weighed a whole lot more. Yeah. Yeah I've never I've honestly now that I'm saying that out loud. I have never thought about that No, it totally makes sense it I sort of just assumed that it's Much more complicated and has much more stuff in it that it would way more Well, I mean that's one of the things Yeah It has more stuff more wings You know those big wings are on the shuttle to provide cross-range capabilities, right? So what could do with single orbit flights and land on the west coast instead of returning back to the east coast? Yeah, it could do crazy stuff and it was never declassified what that stuff was going to be Thanks, dody yet Oh Yeah, I guess it's got to be 30 years to the end of the program where that stuff is declassified Or 30 years. Well 30 years is the typical declassification period for nas I think Yeah, I don't know but I don't know if dod is involved that it might be the 50 years or if it's cia it's the 50 years Well, a lot of the mol stuff's been declassified I was I need to fly. Yeah, I need to go through all of these things I went back and I looked to the soviet version, which was pretty cool. Nice They actually showed like a an astronaut on One of the remaining stations showing how it would all work how they would target everything and how they would aim The station to shoot the gun and everything I was pretty sweet I uh had a I was at a like a I was interviewing a guy and he was at almas the company was called almas. I was like, oh, yeah I know what that's all about Uh-oh I think I might I think I might have flamed out Ah, yes feed pressure too low No, the the the type of fuel tank I have is the wrong kind Oh And oh now we have no engine And now it yes, and now the fuel pressure is too low So I guess we'll just do this That's not so bad. We get some sort of control here But these ones aren't Aren't doing this Oh, pardon me. Let's just try flying this. I'm gonna point it along that Hopefully we end up coming down somewhere and not breaking up. I don't think we're going fast enough The real question is he should have put some landing gear on it I No, but it would have made it heavier and harder to fly I mean, yeah, but less Death trappy for whoever's inside wasn't there Jebediah, you know he has died so many times Wow, we're going up to 250 kilometers. So this is totally an astronaut. I actually Yeah, my uh, I was thinking that the second stage would fire And the problem with that second stage was that it has such low thrust to mass ratio that we had to really Loft the trajectory a great, you know a lot And Then that meant that when we actually cut out we're now in a very steep trajectory rather than a very shallow one So we're doomed I'm just gonna let this run Well, you learn Learn from your mistakes mistakes and engineering, right? That's the whole thing about engineering Uh, no, ideally you you figure out the mistakes ahead of time Yeah You know, uh, many people when I when I put on my engineering hat and software engineering many people Accused me of being a pessimist when in fact I'm more a worst-case scenarioist So, yeah, case scenarioist Yeah, it's not it's not it's a pessimist who's like trying to plan to make sure that the bad the worst case doesn't happen That's why I'm big into killer asteroids We are going down at two kilometers per second, okay Yet five g's seven g's nine g's 10 15 and Yes There we go Uh, he's he could he might be able to parachute Here let let me let me see if you can jump out there Does he have a parachute? No, he doesn't have a parachute. Oh, I look Magically the sky fairy comes and saves him the sky fairy. That's your name. You're sky fairy. I'm sky fairy And uh, we just need to make this launch faster. I think do we try taking this to orbit or we'll put the landing gear on it Okay, you and your landing gear. What are you miss safety inspector? Yes Just call me little miss killjoy Little miss kill not killjoy. That's the problem not killjoy. I want to yeah There's one here that looks like well, it's two it's rear skids. It looks like it's all oh, they're skids. Yeah I don't have skids the x-15 had skids too. It had front nose wheel and rear skids so It's definitely skids in the back and I'm Well, I can't I don't have deployable skids. So it's gonna have to be these All right, I've got uh, I mean I'm seeing schematics of one with a nose wheel one with a nose skid So but we've only got wheels. So let's use wheels. It's a tricycle gear. So two in the back Yeah, I'm actually gonna cheat a little here because Because what I have is if I the wings I think are not quite as straight as I would like So I'm attaching it to the body because I know the body will be straight as a Okay, here we go. So I'm gonna move it back. It doesn't need gear It doesn't need it doesn't need the gear to be placed forward so it can pitch up at launch. So that's fine I don't it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. This is gonna be our sub orbital like awesome Let's do this. Oh wait, let's actually point it vertically again Burn time 156 seconds Oh 156 so that would be two minutes and 30 Right two minutes 36. Do you want me to double check it? No 156 so two minutes and 36 seconds. Oh, sorry I'm going past it. See I can actually match the burn time of this engine to it by You know making the stage the right length And the only problem is it suddenly stopped working for some reason Why isn't it halfway through the floor? That's the floor you want your rocket It's it's just how we do things around here. Oh, you know what the landing gear needs to come in This looks pretty nominal, but Thank you for using space terms nominal Yay, okay, we're going we're going Yes, oh and we put the landing gear in as well It's obviously not something you would have problems with in the real thing Typically in these once the landing gear was deployed it wouldn't stow again because That would just be you know too much electronic too much. No not electronic too much hardware, right so I'm gonna Start turning to go north here Because I want to go sideways and so I'm actually doing an inverted launch And I'm trying to remember why the shuttle did that I completely forgot Oh The worst part is that I talked about this in my video about why rockets roll going into orbit And I can't remember the answer off top of my head Yeah, sadly, I'm not actually an encyclopedia of all the knowledge ever But you know what here's the thing you could tell people anything and they would believe you because you speak with such confidence I know, but I don't want a lot of the humans. Um, I that's why you're not a politician Blorp, uh, yep. No, I I'm much quicker to say, you know what? I don't remember. I'm gonna look it up Okay, so I'm getting we're picking up some roll oscillations here. So I'm adjusting these fins I'm making a note to look that up so I can pop the video on the screen at the right point And yeah, I did mention I was you know writing some stuff, but I should mention that later maybe Or I should keep that a secret until later I'm just gonna hold it, but you've mentioned it like Coily clandestinely clandestinely, yes I don't know. It's probably never happened. That's the thing because spare time Yeah, I know, right spare time if only I could get some I know I know I feel so horrible people keep asking me about the vintage space podcast I have such a good Idea for the podcast that I want to do so badly. I just do not have time There we go. Yes Now now we can roll this whole thing. So I'm gonna fire up the reaction control system now Now this thing doesn't have nearly the thrust of the the rest of the thing, but It should let us Pick up some serious lateral speed here Yeah, the rl10 it's the only engine. You know this it runs on the expansion cycle. You know this Okay, so the expansion so you know how regular rocket pumps kind of work They feed in fuel and the fuel, you know, they burn the fuel and that drives the pumps With expander cycle what you do is you feed in something like liquid hydrogen into the cooling jacket around the engine and it vaporizes to Hydrogen and then that drives the turbo pumps So there's no combustion happening that's driving the It doesn't have an independent thing. So it you know, it's it's kind of convenient but there's a a limit to how much thrust you can get from these because The surface area of the if you make the engine bigger The surface area grows as the square of the size But the fuel capacity requires to grow as a cube. So the fuel requirements grow faster than the Uh drive requirements Yeah, you're just nodding along here at this point I've never thought through fuel like that Uh, there's all you know those things to know I guess I just did a thing about rocket plumbing a few months ago and Uh had to explain that right because these are the things that I ask someone like you about Yeah, but I'm not qualified to answer But you're more qualified than I am to answer Oh, well, well, there's the you know, again the whole like confidence thing, you know Yeah, but I have confidence in myself to know when I need to ask an expert This is looking great like we're flying out over Washington and everything. I don't know Yeah, this is I mean, I think what was what were the plans for dinosaur because that's the thing I guess they were all testing out in California. So they would do a suborbital hop and then land back Disaster was the plan. It was such a mess. The program was such a mess. So But they weren't planning to launch from florida, right? Um So, I mean the whole impetus for dinosaur came from Sort of this interest in hypersonic flight that kind of came out in the mid 1950s It was really kind of pioneered and spearheaded by walter dorm burger who was head of the the uh, german Army's rocket program in the second world war. He was the guy that came up with the silver vocal. No, that was oigan sanger Oh, sanger. Okay. Sorry, but sanger was working on this idea I see he had this idea in the mid 30s He was working on it for the german air force while fun brown and dorm burger Well, we're developing what became the v2 and the v series of rockets for the army And they knew about each other and sanger wanted to get his Called so many things, but like, you know the antipoder Antipodal bomber Yes, this is like a skip glide boost glide vehicle The whole idea like dinosaur is it's got the flat bottom So as it goes up it can bounce off the atmosphere like a stone skipping on a pond And cover distance without having to burn more fuel so Fun brown knew about this idea He was into gliders already and dorm burger got a copy of sanger's post-war report because sanger was like Desperate to find somebody to fund it but couldn't because germany was destroyed And dorm burger ended up pitching a similar idea to Bob woods the chief engineer at bell aircraft in the early 50s bell, of course being the Company that built the x1 So bell is super into cutting-edge aircraft that are doing crazy developmental things in engineering Woods is super excited at the idea of Of a hypersonic vehicle, you know, this is flying re-entering the atmosphere even suborbital Just re-entering and landing hypersonic at muck 25 or muck 20 and then transonic Subsonic to a nice gliding landing on a runway or a dry lake bed And of course you don't go from like muck one with the x1 to muck 20 because that's insane So that's where the x15 actually came in as the interim period the interim step Of this supersonic research program between the x1 Which was just breaking the sound barrier to dinosaur slash it was had like 15 million names Including a weapon system for 6 4 l So dinosaur would sort of be like the final round of this So it got a lot of support with early From the the n a c a the national advisory committee for aeronautics and early nasa and the do d in the air force But ultimately it could never keep pace with mercury, but When it was getting a lot of funding there were supposed to be three phases that the first phase would be um Captured glide flights like the same way the x15 flew this would be underneath the wing of a b 52 released fire its engine go up on these like big suborbital arcing flights for for a Reentry heating and some would be speedruns like the x15 did speedruns versus altitude flights Eventually it would go and do single orbit missions and then the extended version of dinosaur, which was just Like like the advanced concept of the of the vehicle was to do multi orbit missions So it was sort of like on the books as like this really coolest. Oh wow that is on fire I get no work. Oh I think that what was that that happened so fast That that that was the cockpit disintegrating Apparently the cockpit is not specced for reentry for some reason So that was going about as fast as the x15 did was that was that was that like mark sevenish Yeah mark just over mark seven there So Clearly the materials i'm using are not correct. You know what I think i'm just going to turn off max temperature because That would make things easier look we still have bits flying past here Because dinosaur was supposed to re-enter around mock 20 Oh Because even when dinosaur was scaled down it was supposed to re-enter at about mock 17 Wow, yeah Back and we're going to try one test flight to make sure I can land on these and then I'm going to bring out the Titan 3c To like I'm going to make this like a little joe kind of test. Okay That should do us just fine. Oh, it's going to be little joe, but it's massive Oh, you know one of the things I always meant to build in Kerbal space program is the The whole you know, you know the idea of how they were going to test the shuttle originally the carrier aircraft One of the early proposals let's see It was uh to bolt a pair of b 52s together I'm sorry base What face that's all What they're going to bolt two b 52s together and live use it to lift the shuttle Then have the shuttle hanging underneath the joint went. Oh my god Are you serious? Right because they were still thinking about x planes being dropped from a b 52 and they were like well one b 52 is not enough What did we bolt them together? Uh, I mean, I'm not saying that that was gonna happen, but it was one early proposal It was probably a rejected proposal to be honest. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure it got as far as a What about this? No Why is this this thing is spinning too hard? How is it still spinning? I don't know because my reaction control thrusters are clearly not Giving me any respect here Oh, maybe it's because i'm pushing trying to know it is that's the way i'm rolling That's how I roll You need you need a shirt that just has a spacecraft and like a deadly roll that says that's how I roll That's our roll Oh come on You know what this is this is actually made of the problem. I've got a stability assist on and it's confused That's it. You see once I turn the computer off I get some control back. Okay, so i'm actually having the terrifying that you have to turn the computer off to get control Look, you switched off your targeting computer I'm using the force come on I can do this So now we're actually coming down any much more sensible You know to send We're only descending at 800 meters per second and Not only that but we're slowing down because of the power of this these wings There's a bit of a shimmy going on here But I oh now we're down to 700 meters per second vertical. I have no idea I have no reference frame for meters per second. It's great Um, just multiply. Why are we always on fire? Why is it always on fire? It's just what's cool Okay, now I gotta It paused for a second there We're going at mach 3. I don't think it'll explode your shit. We're still pulling about 9 g's in this turn though I'm just gonna try and turn it. That's the gulf of mexico, I guess Okay, we're now we're now about mach 2.5 You know what I should cut the authority of these control surfaces down I know that you're I know this is a weird angle to view from But it it just looks like you're flying sideways and it just freaks me out every time Well, you know, I know what's happening. But does every time I look at I'm like Why is it happening? It's just what we need to do to control this thing Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you see that I almost lost control there Okay, so what we've got is a weird stability issue going on here I am gonna bring up my pitch authority here to try and get my So I am now in Wow, you see that I overpitched and I totally was losing control of that thing there I think part of the problem is I get too much weight at the back here So I'm wondering if I can pump this fuel forwards Uh out So I think what's happening is the reaction control thrusters at the front are burning fuel Because of the way they're piped up. These ones aren't burning for some reason. So this fuel tank isn't emptying And so what I'm doing is I'm pumping fuel forward for stability reasons. That's what's going on There we go. Okay, so now now we're back under control again whoo Well, that was that was a little hairy there Okay, so you can see I'm just kind of hanging around at uh about a thousand feet Just over a thousand trying to bleed off speed here so that we can land it safely You should probably be looking where I'm going rather than where I am There we go. So that's 300 meters. That's uh, oh now we're definitely feeling that roll there. Whoa Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. I'm going to turn on the reaction control thrusters there. See that Uh, I'm going to increase the roll authority That looks like you're moving so fast. I'm moving about I'm moving I'm like half the speed of sound right now. So this is not a good speed for landing No, it's really not And I'm moving at 300 feet now and the whole thing just wants to roll I wonder if it's getting control input from a joystick or something That that's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna find out that there's a joystick. Whoa At least it glides really well the way that the at least on my screen the way the graphics are moving It looks like you're flying sideways It feels like I'm flying sideways here. Oh my god. Ah Again I don't know if we're gonna get him home at all here. Ah, why was there a second explode? Okay. What do we have? Oh my god. I'm just looking to see what survived. This is like the fourth time No, it was engines last time when the rocket exploded and we just had like a shower of engines. Oh my god I love the singular landing gear You know what I'm thinking amazing and I may be experiencing the bug where landing gear doesn't work I like how the landing gear says get rolling Get rolling Light light year Light year instead of good year. Obviously. That's so funny Okay Well, look look in theory this glides the last thing we need to do is put it into orbit Titan 3c there So I I specced this out sometime back with exactly the right performance So just why I knew I had the parts in this And unfortunately it goes through the the roof of this building Oh my god, that's massive Yeah, it's uh mostly correct as well. So what I'm gonna do now, but That's massive I'm gonna basically say glider is gonna look ridiculous on top of that Yeah, okay I think that looks pretty good So these are these are all the correct engines and the tanks of the correct sizes and the burn times That yeah, what we're missing a tank here. Let me just check do this this this this. Oh, actually, we're fine. Okay We're ready to launch and we shall go this way beautiful And it takes off really fast. Yeah, that was real fast That's the power of solid rocket boosters. Those things Are crazy. I mean there's a whole I remember seeing a whole Scientific video from one of the engineers explaining how these things steer Pretty cool. I think these are the ones maybe I'm forgetting but one of these things they steer by injecting oxidizer into the Into this like combustion chamber area So you'd squirt it. Oh, it's losing it. Let's losing it's losing its losing stability here We got dead Well, Jebediah is still alive technically But he's gonna die Can we give him a parachute? Unfortunately, we can attach a parachute to this. You want to do that? Let's attach a parachute to this thing It's it's not correct, but Let's do it just for him This is this is our contribution to the design of the dinosaur and you can say that you designed an improved safety version By adding a parachute if we can find a parachute there Let's just stick that right there behind his head just so that I feel better about the number of times we've killed Jeb Yeah, I mean, I know he's a computer, but still He computers have feelings too So I think we need to do is Add some add some stabilizers on the bullet. I'm here We just need some wings and at launch Yeah, just for yeah Make them a bit longer and narrow narrow them at the tip offset them backwards And put two of them on because that's what the professionals do I hope the idea of rocket explodes. All right, let's own up to it. Who forgot to put the second wing on the rocket Okay And we're reaching like one and a half hours I guess the more we talk the less footage we the more footage we have to edit. I know It's getting worried Just checking yeah, let's get this thing in orbit so that we have less work to do later I'm starting to worry that this camera is gonna run out. I'm also at a beer as well I'm out of I'm out of beer too Okay, let's just take this to orbit. Let's do it. Let's do it Whoo off it goes once again Yeah, this looks so much adding wings just makes it looks more stylish Like there's so much to be said for a good pair of wings This I do need to flatten the trajectory on this thing a bit more though Oh, we're going transonic We're just blowing through the sound barrier on this thing Basically, I'm on fire and heading towards space at almost Mach three Just go sideways dammit. We need to get into orbit Forget about your going upwards plans sideways. That's where the plans are Okay, see they still had a little bit of thrust in them Oh Apparently my main engine never fired Did that happen? How did that happen? How did we overlook that one? I think when I copied it, maybe the fuel levels were not copied over Let's just Let's just fix this That needs to have aero zine. That needs to have kerosene I'm so bad. I forgot to fuel my rocket. And that needs to have kerosene Apparently copying a thing over doesn't copy the fuel level You know what? When you copy a rocket in reality, the fuel doesn't come over. That's why we have to fuel them ahead of time Ah, man At least it flew better It did fly better. It probably flew a lot faster than it should have, because it didn't have any fuel in it Oh Well, this will be fun There we go. And now immediately start turning the engine We go and now immediately start turning this thing That looks more like it Maybe the whole thing was unstable because it didn't have any fuel in these core stages But honestly, I think having the wings was the correct decision regardless I mean von Braun, he loved having his wings, right? Okay mark one You can actually look at it from inside now 400 meters per second. You see it looks pretty good from the inside like we're taking off from florida Does look at that Definitely need to flatten out this trajectory though. So that's mach two now Yeah, these are uh UA 1205 solid rocket boosters Titan three had a long career. Okay, and then we're coming up on mach four We have about 11 seconds of fuel left. So I'm gonna start firing that middle stage Yet generating thrust there And then we're gonna let these side stages lose thrust Here that we now got that core stage running And ditch Yes, that's the way they're supposed to go That looks way better Let's uh set our orientation for orbit now See the second stage. Let me just remember Yeah, that that is the correct stage distribution So that is a pair of aj10s because I built this elsewhere I just don't know if that was what was paired with the dinosaur I couldn't find it Yeah, well, okay, I'm gonna go with your guess at this point because This could be a very long time. Yeah, we should probably be I don't know if this will end up getting into space It it'll be cool to get it into space though And uh, yeah, we'll probably just need to quit this and figure out how to edit it That'll be that'll be fine Yeah, and look he's got his parachute. So if everything goes wrong He'll be fine. At least we can save Jeb Well, he is assuming he doesn't burn up But if his vehicle breaks up and reentry, he'll be fine He'll be okay, and it flies pretty good And next stage. Whoa, there we go. We'll go that's uh 4.5 kilometers per second. Sorry is the system that's speeding up your time called smart ass No smart ass is up here. What is that? All I can see is that that's a guy That's like a computer system. Oh god. It's right. It's right under the bar of Speeding and I just looked at it because it was red and caught my eye, but uh, yeah Smart ass good. Yeah Automatic stability system. Yeah And this was the smart one. So it's the smart ass. Yeah This is if you ever play curable, this is mechanical jeb. It will do most of the flying for you That's what mech jeb looks like. Yeah, just looks like a bunch of windows doesn't look like a robot jeb I would like a robot jeb I've got a 3d printed jeb, but that's not the same thing Yeah, I uh have a lot of things I've oh, yeah, and I've a you know one of these guys. Oh my god. That's adorable. He's a plushie Okay, we're almost getting ready for the net the final stage and we are going six kilometers per second Well, the main problem with staging is that when you have all these mods that gives you the realistic plan They also make the rocket tanks the fuel tanks behave like real fuel tanks So if you're in zero g for too long the fuel just floats around in blogs. Do they have the option of adding ullage motors? Yes, you do. Yes, they do However, I just hit space very quickly in stage before the fuel realizes that it's been set free from the chains of gravity Yeah, I I don't plan I keep the fuel guessing Okay, we're at 6.5 kilometers per second And we're soon gonna start dropping but I think we're okay So we're now at 6,700 And now yes, so now we're actually falling backwards, but that's fine because we have plenty of lateral speed and plenty of time to build it up Not a lot of people realize that rockets actually When they go into orbit a lot of the time their last section of their burn, they're actually falling back Because they're maximizing their performance by doing that So they're like this is a dinosaur. It's getting into orbit So where where can you zoom out to the map to show us where our orbit is? And yeah, let's uh, let's actually just wait until we're in orbit. We're not quite in orbit yet We're not quite in orbit. We're so close only know how to read orbit by looking at the map Because of the numbers thing not that cool with the numbers. All right, so yeah Yeah, we have coordinates here. We're over the Atlantic obviously So, I mean there's the Caribbean over that way And that's all there is to see I'm just trying to Make sure we get into orbit here And now our vertical speed is rising once again. So we're coming out of this slow dive towards the planet Finally, we're gonna hopefully get into like a 300 kilometer orbit, which is pretty good I don't how how high did they originally intend for dinosaur to be flying at? Oh, I would have to look it up Oh, because I know that's the story of my life No, because the the dinosaur that I was The the incarnation that I've always focused on is the suborbital test version of it that had the potential to go into orbit But was never oh, there's the Oh, I made a mistake there. I made a mistake. That's the screen shift and what I was supposed to do there was I was trying to Okay, well, I kind of messed that up. I I meant to shut down the engines first Uh and detach this stage so it would fall into the atmosphere. Now we're spinning around in space Can't you shut the engine off now? No, because it's not attached. It's it's only there because it's pushing into me But now now we can control it can we use reaction controls? Yes, we are. So wait. How are we getting back into the atmosphere if we don't have an engine on this ladder? Thrusters we have little thrusters. You can do that with just the thrusters Yeah, we know we added these little ones at the back. Yeah, okay And they're just having some trouble slowing down this spin here. You know what if I roll it So that I'm principally pitching then I will have more Okay, this could take some time to slow down this rotation But we're in orbit. So we've got time Yeah, yeah, I mean we we're not gonna fall back anytime soon But look, you know, it's some sort of success. I guess what I could do is f5 And then f5 is save and then reload and that should stop us spinning Unless of course the game is saving the spin state Oh, no, it saved the spin state. Well, look, let's see where we are amazing Amazing look at us. We're flying over the Pacific and so you can imagine now the dinosaur Skipping over Africa on to the night side of the plot. Let's hide that so you can't see how dizzy he's getting Over South America over Australia. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, look, there's Hawaii. No, we're Pacific. Yeah Yeah, there's Hawaii And we're getting a sunrise And we get a sunrise here beautiful Well, there it is. We've had the sun And a hint of nausea I feel like last time we did this we also had some vomiting curbels on our hands or curbs I think I can curbinots. Oh, man. There must be a way to fix it I'm surprised that my reaction control system is not working to stop this Bad reaction control system. I don't think there's much I can do it's just Either that or maybe you know what maybe that's the problem. Maybe my uh stability system is not that good I'll use the smart ass and see if the smart ass can fix the problem It's a metaphor for everything smart ass. What can't a smart ass do? Uh Wow, everything it says it can do generally Yeah, so your smart ass is not going to help us is what you're saying Uh, well, look, I mean, here's the thing. We got the dinosaur into orbit And we don't think we don't need to bring it back. We've flown it right I think at this point we've admitted we've shown I mean in this case jeb is a test pilot and he knew what he signed up for Yeah, he can get back though. He still has fuel. We just need to You know figure out how to stop that spin I'm sure there's a way to do it Should probably stop before uh, he runs out of reaction control fuel. Yeah I actually know how I would do it. What's this? Get into this so we're You we oh there. Oh come on Camera locked. I want locked orientation. So we're spinning that way So what I want to do is disable this right Shut down this engine and then This engine's still thrusting. So they're far that engine up and it should cancel the rotation eventually But then But then fuel into the other one so that we can re-enter the atmosphere. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we totally we totally have enough fuel We're just cutting down the rotation rate eventually at some point He'll survive it's jeb Jeb with a parachute Yeah, he's slowing down Soon his his system. This is like new arms at this, right? I was gonna say I was just gonna say what we've done is accidentally recreate gemini 8 Yeah Only plus dinosaur minus ajina Right That's awesome. There we did it. We totally we recovered from the spin Yep way to go neil We will call you neil from now on. He was so badass. He was such a badass. Well, there is a neil kermin Is there of course there? Yeah, and there's a monument to uh neil armstrong on the moon in Kerbal space program Really? Yeah, nice Yeah, cuz you know neil. He was pretty nice. Yeah, he was good Okay, well i'm gonna call that a night Yep, let's just get a nice closing shot of dinosaur in orbit. Look sun setting over africa the dinosaur sun setting over africa I see the dinosaurs down in africa Oh I feel like that is the indication that we are tired enough I kind of like this shot dinosaurs down africa. That is actually a really beautiful ending shot Yeah, all right. Nicely done Yeah, great nicely done Yay, okay two hours of of this silliness Two hours of Kerbal Man and all that editing we're gonna have to do I know fun times good times fun times good times Well, thanks for showing up. Yeah. Thanks for flying for me because I couldn't do this I barely managed myself, but you did and that's what matters Fly safe Nice, um Hocked over it On my end of things Let me know in the comments below you guys what you thought of our build and what you would like us to eventually build again When we can collab again in like four months because we're both very busy Be sure to leave me all of your thoughts comments questions and ideas for future episodes in the comments below Be sure to follow me on twitter and on instagram for daily adventure space content and with new videos going up every single week Subscribe right here so you never miss an episode Yeah, I get through that so fast now That's great