 Shane McGowan was actually just yesterday evening by chance. I played a song on air that was called if I should fall from the grace of God. And Donald was coming on to do the news and we just started talking about Shane. Obviously he hasn't been well and it was sort of predicting obviously realizing that it would happen so soon. But it's a sad day but what a legend. What a legend. I've asked Donald actually to come in and have a wee chat as well. Donald you've seen Shane perform live several times. Several times. I first saw the Pogues in Hammersmith Palace in London in 1987. Saw them again in London and then I saw them at the first of the failures in St. Paul's Stadium in Thurless in 1990. They headlined. They said they were magnificent actually. Their version of Thousands are sailing that night. I will never forget it was just amazing. Last time I saw Shane actually was here in Lederkenny. He played I think Paddy Kelly and Marty McIll... Marty McIll and David on the gig. It would have been... Was it the grill? It was in the grill 10 years ago. I'd say about 10 years ago. Give or take early. Yeah. Yeah. It might be more than 10 at this stage. It could might be 15. But I'm sure PK would put us right on that. But that was the last time I saw him and at that point he actually performed in a wheelchair. I remember him. And what was interesting is to watch him. It was as though the songs were mentally imprinted on his brain. Because in between the songs he was a little ropey. You know, he wasn't in the best of condition on stage. He was very ropey. You could see that even at that point mentally he wasn't as aware as he might have been. But the songs were there. But then the music would start and he'd kick in and bang. He would... Muscle memory. I mean, you know, he did Sally MacLennan. No, perfect. No, he couldn't string a sentence. But Sally MacLennan with Jimmy Plattermanica in the pub where I was born. Bang! The whole thing. What was really interesting was at the end he did the Irish Rover. And what was noticeable was the Ronnie Drew versus he was a bit ropey on, but his own versus again tight as a button. So really a consummate professional performer. We're not going to do a live on there, but you'd actually just, when we were talking yesterday, you were just speaking the lyrics of one of his songs. We can't say it all there because there's a few wee nodding words in there, but just when you were doing that, I was just kind of going, that's just pure poetry. Now, the way you deliver it just between, we're just sitting here, but it was just pure poetry. Like, and it was a poetry to music, if you know what I mean. So, obviously he was famous and everybody knows him for a fairy tale of New York. I get that. And that was an amazing piece of work as well. But like some of the early stuff, like that sort of period between 84 and 88, Red Roses for me, Rumsulam in the Lash. Totally. I think Rumsulam in the Lash. And I would say, I would say the lyrics of Shane McGowan have as much right to be called poetry as the words of Yates or Heaney or anybody else. I mean, the song we were talking about was The Sick But of Cuckullin. Now, I will argue that Sick But of Cuckullin lyrically is one of the greatest Irish songs of all time. I mean, the words are magnificent. I mean, you know, and when you actually read them, they work as poetry. They have that power as poetry, which I think is fantastic. I mean, you know, Shane had his demons. Shane had his faults. Shane had his battles with addiction, as we well know. And, you know, it would be very naive to think that that didn't play a contributory factor to the ailing of Shane's health. But Shane was also an amazing writer. And he lived his life the way he wanted. He did. And he was quite humorous about it as well, that famous line where he says, I've been given six months to live 25 years ago. Yeah, that was like, that was his sort of just, you know, the humor coming through as well. Yeah, and maybe sometimes I think he didn't get the respect as a writer he deserved because of his persona. Because you look at, you know, if you look at Shane McGowan, you're not automatically thinking, oh, there goes a spokesperson for a generation. There goes one of the greatest writers of words that Ireland ever produced. But he was, you know, for what, the way he looked and for all his faults and for all his foibles. I still reckon that McGowan has every right to be called a great Irish poet as much as he needs anybody else. Yeah, I agree 100%. So just wanted to bring in for a second, Donald, just to recognize, obviously, the loss. But like it's a celebration as well today as well. So we're going to try and squeeze in a couple more songs. Thanks for coming on, Donald. I'm going to go for Sally McLellan, which we've mentioned in the interview there. So thank you, Donald.