 Hi everyone, this is Chicho. Welcome to my channel and welcome to another live stream. Today is February 23rd 2019 sorry, not 2019 2020 and We're doing a live stream on Julien Assange and Wikileaks open discussion. There's a handful of videos I've laid out here for us to take a look at Possibly if the discussion takes us there. There is one I'd like to make sure we We take a look at To start off. It's a good little summary from yesterday's demonstration. Hello, spider-man. How are you doing? Free Assange? Free Assange. Doing well, man. Doing well cooked up some food today for snack and Been Sort of editing a little bit. Hannah, how's it going brother? How's life? We're getting lots of rain here. Sister city in Seattle We're in the West Coast of Canada, United States. So It's it's an interesting time. It's an interesting time There was the March yesterday X. How are you doing? How's life? Hope life is treating you well there was a Sort of a March rally yesterday in London and There's a little summary video that I like us to start off with once people start rolling in and we've done a fair bit of these West Coast is the best coach Don't you know Chijo? Best coast? Yeah, I'm a coach. What? That's the best coast. It is for me It is I love it and I'm assuming you do as well Even how are you doing? Steven Threven I keep on forgetting how to say it but even as good. Yo, yo, how's life and for those of you? That happened here. This is let me switch up our view just Furlip because we're gonna use two views we're gonna Talk this way and here's a sort of view. We're gonna take a look at When we start taking a look at some of the videos and we do have a Julian Assange Wikileaks and Julian Assange playlists where we've done a fair bit of these for anyone watching this on here right now live or watching this on another platform we started off this playlist with Soft spoken or whisper reading of vault seven and that we did a couple of live streams when Julian Assange was extracted out of the Ecuador Embassy and then once the Trials begin the extradition hearing and all that jazz Since then we've done seven live streams and we've done soft spoken reading of Guantanamo Bay of Files introduction to the Guantanamo Bay of Files and We did a soft spoken reading of the OPCW Leaks, okay and We'll just hold up for a little bit of time until people start rolling in Give people a little bit of time sometimes the notifications don't go out right away About 10 minutes and then what we're gonna do we're gonna look at one video first to get things started The socialism put more money in the pockets of the middle-class examples It depends who's running it, I guess No, it doesn't yeah, I'm with even it. It's neither here nor there you can't categorize everything on their socialism It's It doesn't make sense Hannah that's just talking points that mainstream propagandists are spewing Do you have any crypto? Playlist I do Hannah. Yeah. Yeah, we do have a crypto playlist if you do If you do Chicho Cryptocurrencies or Bitcoin video shot should pop up and in the description of the videos There'll be a link to cryptocurrencies. Okay, the cryptocurrency playlist and that's very much related to Personal finance as well the effects of socialism Even the you can't only myself and mods can link posts. Okay Not so hard nice. Ah nice spider-man you rock. I Guess that's the crypto playlist Understood. Sorry. No worries. You can post the links on our discord page You can post the links on our discord page, right? It's just we're getting lots of just like any other live stream I guess you were getting fishing scams and stuff. So we want to make sure I'm safe on this, you know No one accidentally posts on or clicks on a fishing link or something like this While we wait a few more minutes Let's do thanks spider-man you rock you rock. Let me do What do you call it? I'm just refreshing the page here for One second just to make sure just checking the time. So we've been live for five minutes We'll wait another five minutes for people to roll in. Okay, I know one time one of the streams We had notifications went out like 15 minutes later or something. Let me show you the snacks. I got here I got the some mandarins and Chocolate I got dark chocolate and this one is peanut butter milk chocolate Nice. I want to purchase some soon, but need some advice on where to when you get started Um, I I talk about in general with cryptocurrency stuff. Hannah. I'm just talking about them in Very broad terms. I don't talk about where you can buy them What I recommend or anything like this right birdie. How are you doing? Here's what I cooked up earlier It's sort of like my cuckoo recipe Managers or mangers are awesome and with chocolate fantastic. This is sort of I use the same thing as our cuckoo recipe but this thing is I Don't know what you call it. I it's me experimenting. So first time I've made this thing is fantastic. It's Cabbage red cabbage Squash and potatoes cooked up and then mush together. Okay. I threw in some spices and then flour eggs Salt of course and mix it all up and cook it like cuckoo style, right? It's really good. I made like like they look I guess it's more of an Indian flavor. I put some Turmeric in there, right? It's very good. What about click? Click bank. I'm interested in investing that that as well. I don't know about click bank Cuckoo looks like yummy yummy. It is So click bank is a grouping of referral products. So they're Putting a whole bunch of cryptos together and selling it as one package. Is that what they're doing? I don't know anything about click bank. It sounds like a Sort of a platform where they're Putting themselves between you and the exact the actual transaction click bank has nothing to do with crypto. Doesn't it? Okay. I don't Never heard of it actually And it wouldn't be I'm not really interested in anything that has bank in their name. So you know Not even blood banks So anything with a bank in its name not really Doesn't really hit my radar in terms of trying to look into it for investment and whatnot, right? So Julian Assange and wiki lakes Do you upload these streams to bit shoot for sure Hanna? Yeah all the streams we do on twitch I Upload to bit shoot Okay, as long as bit shoes able to process only one of the streams we didn't upload anywhere. It just gone I have it somewhere in my hard drives But all the streams we do on twitch go on bit shoot Not all of them go on YouTube because of the censorship, right? So there's more and more bit shoot exclusive videos being put out, right? If they're too sensitive We're not gonna put them on bit shoot. Thank you spider-man, right? We're not gonna put them on not YouTube, right because YouTube is Putting black marks against us, okay, so You know, we have to keep the platforms going if they're Rolling out major censorship. It's just they're gonna start losing viewership and disruptive innovation is gonna take over and YouTube is gonna go way of eBay. It's just gonna be a platform That just stays what it is, right? That's it. You know, it's tool. It's not bad. It's good, right? I enjoy YouTube, but We are pro freedom of speech here we are If one thing Personally, I stand against the censorship Censorship is bad in in in every level possible. Okay So we will continue to try to make sure we decentralized Love YouTube videos, but they are way harsh on people's content way harsh way harsh I still use YouTube a lot, right? But I'm using bit shoot a lot more now not more than YouTube, but Well, let me yeah, not more than YouTube because everyone that I follow on YouTube that I watch their content on YouTube is not on bit shoot but anyone that is That I am following that I'm following their work watching their videos And stuff like this if they're on YouTube I'm specifically watching their content on bit shoot because they like me are also putting More content on bit shoot than they are on YouTube. So I'm not interested in getting a censored version of what they're What their ideas are I want to get the full perspective of what they think and the only way you can get a full picture of What the content creators? That you follow What their ideas are without the YouTube censorship, which is basically a Disney censorship being Forced on us is to follow them on the other platforms as long as they are on another platform Right because that way they're loading on bit shoot exclusive videos just like I am right because there's certain topics There's no way you can discuss on YouTube. Some of the things you can discuss on YouTube. You'll get banned for so It's crazy. Okay, just saying So if you like my work you're watching on this on YouTube if you like the little filter being put on certain things You don't want to discuss specifically politics related then YouTube is okay place for you to be right, but if you want to get the politics the economics the Everything else More and more that stuff is going to be finding a home on bit shoot not on YouTube Okay, Google only cares about advertisers. Yeah, and you know what? It's not even advertisers spider-man. Okay, as far as I see it any platform that can't Figure it out a way to bring in advertisers based on the content that is being put on their platform It doesn't really want that content on their platform, right? It's not because They only care about advertisers It's they're not promoting anything to anyone that they don't like to be Sharing information on their platform, right? For sure. They're chasing the big money, but Google is the big money, right? so I I really Can't believe that Google can't find people that want to advertise on Alternative health products can't find people that want to advertise on Corona COVID-19 videos because they're demonetizing all the core COVID-19 videos now keep in mind the Independent people that are independently Covering news and information and data on COVID-19. Okay, their videos are being demonetized So all the everything we've put out regarding COVID-19 Including the mathematics of it is demonetized automatically on YouTube but news media sites such as CNN ABC BBC and all this jazz the propagandists They cover news. They also cover Coronavirus COVID-19, but their videos are not demonetized as far as I know, right? So they're basically taking any revenue away support away from independent media trying to cover news stories But they're 100% okay with the big boys Doing it, right? It's it's it's a form of control manipulation They use advertisement money as an excuse. It's more about control of information Okay, advertisers are excused control for propaganda's goal 100% agreed even 100% agreed, right? So we've been at this for about 14 minutes. Let's watch a video. Okay Let's take a look at this thing gang Let me switch up to this now I'm not gonna go through to give all the little intros and stuff that we've talked about Regarding WikiLeaks because we have a major playlist here. Let me switch up the angle on So we can see the screen Boop, okay. We have a playlist here The our WikiLeaks and Julian Assange playlist So we've covered a lot of content here If you want to catch up go down to the first one Read or listen to Vault seven year zero reading and there's a link in the description of all these videos That take you to the appropriate places and share more information Okay, and you can scroll through if you know about Julian Assange Then you know the hearing is coming up tomorrow. There was a march yesterday in London and There was a lot of videos coming out. I found one put out by Activism Munich, which is a very good channel. I would recommend following these people right here activism Munich, okay, and I've turned on my notifications if you can see here Oops right beside a subscribe. I've turned on my notifications here So I get notified every time you load on a video. Some of the stuff is in German Some of his English 50-50 approximately. So I just watched the English stuff Okay, so they put out a sort of a eight-minute video Recapping what took place in London and I'd like us to sort of watch that because they interview a few different people Which are prominent supporters of The no extradition for Julian Assange, okay What's up to the riot I was a going Beautifully says even said yeah, yeah, Spider-man agreed even said it beautifully and what he said is advertisers are the excuse control of Propaganda is the goal. Okay, the media are losing their minds over Sanders 100% agreed right and There's reasons for it just join do we know where he he at oh Void how are you doing? We just started actually we're gonna watch this video and the title of this video Let me make sure this is all coming on Yeah, that's all good. Okay, cool. Oops. We don't want that Okay, so we're just gonna watch this video sort of a eight-minute recap of what took place yesterday And I have a whole bunch of other videos here that we can talk about But if the discussion picks up we can you know, we'll change the view We'll talk about whatever you guys want to talk about and we'll continue looking at the videos and reading an article and whatnot Read what you saw. I still don't think they let him make it make it to presidency I did I don't think so either riot. I really don't think so either, okay? But It is an important thing that is taking place so this video is called Julien Assange stop extradition protest in London with viral focus Vivian Westwood and more And viral focus is the Greek Finance Minister, I believe it was the finance minister that resigned after they The party that they he was part of they named They they lied to the Greek people and they didn't pull out a European Union And let me know if the sound of this thing is too loud or too low and I'll kick it up You're probably going to visit Julien Assange at some point in prison or at some point in the future What is your message to him and also what can you tell our viewers who want to do something about it? What can they do tomorrow? Well, I'm visiting tomorrow And I can tell you that I'm visiting him with a great deal of trepidation in the sense of guilt Because I'm going to go in there and then I'm going to get out and he's going to still be in there I will convey the spirit of defiance the spirit of solidarity and support towards him We had a demonstration our party our movement being to revive marriage they have nothing as we speak our members of parliament We're outside the British Embassy on the 10th of March. We are releasing Euroleaks the Recordings that I made during the Eurogroups of 2015 something that Julian and I have Planned a long time ago. So that's the struggle to give people their voice and their right to know Continues human right of Julian's has been arbitrarily broken distortions of procedure falsification of witness the lot The whole rotten lot of it. We believe That your presence the presence of the observers and your strength of will will buoy us up To make it plain to the crown prosecuting service that xx tradition Best be dropped now Thank you very much Wants to rule a totalitarian world Right now the government of America For the government of America People are the enemy a Sarge rock and roll You work for Al Jazeera Why are you here to support during a science because usually they say journalists have to be objective and should not Take an opinion. Why is this matter of great importance to you? You know, it's funny because I've been covering demonstrations for 40 years I've been this the business that long today is the first demonstration. I actually felt a part of and I felt a little bit uncomfortable about that because as you mentioned journalists are supposed to be objective But this story is essentially about journalism. It's a field I care about And I did 25 years of work in journalism just on journalism and now I cover journalism And I don't believe there is a more important story a bigger threat to journalism on the planet today Then the Julian Assange case and when the lack is of the American Empire come to take him to destroy him And hang him in the hedge as a warning to frighten future journalists We will lock them in the eye and stay fast with one voice We will entone Over our dead bodies You know his conditions of confinement have changed. He spends About 20 hours a day instead of 22 hours a day His conditions have changed. He's now with 40 other prisoners So it's important for human beings to be able to speak to each other. Okay, but his health hasn't changed it's then the United Nations Reporters on torture report is accurate and There's an offer being considered by the Canton of Geneva in Switzerland To extend a humanitarian visa to Julian because they have specialists in the hospital in Geneva who specialize in treating victims of torture of Psychological torture, so that's how it actually is. I am ashamed to be standing in the country among the institutions of the power of the country which Tortures a publisher for publishing the truth when the people who committed the crimes Which he exposed are still safe still employed by the state and still in positions of power This must not be allowed to stand You've picked up from the 4th of February now this is becoming a movement Could you talk about how the demonstration went today for junior to stop the juniors house extradition? What was it take today? Well, I think it was a very important demonstration Obviously, it comes at a very important time immediately before the beginning of the extradition trial on Monday I think it shows that the movement is growing over the last few months It's grown from some tens or 20s of people protesting to hundreds to thousands to some many thousands today I think out. I think the platform was very impressive to have Janice Verifakis, Chrissy Hein, Brian Eno Kristen Hassan, you know, that's an impressive breadth of cultural and political figures speaking up for Julian Assange And I think it's a time when it's also beginning to become more mainstream in the labor movement We've seen very important interventions from Jeremy Corbyn in the House of Commons We've seen John McDonald become the first UK MP to visit Julian So I would say this is a campaign which is now very definitely got the government under siege over this issue People usually will ask, yeah, do something, but what should I do? What could you just list some concrete steps that people could start? Let's start with the easiest thing that people could do and go down all the list just briefly Okay, if you weren't here today, there are going to be many many social media posts of the speeches and the demonstration itself Get sharing those Share the link to the campaign to the DEA campaign. Don't extradition campaign. Donate money We always need money. Indeed the legal team need money So any campaign any movement, but definitely this one needs money Give us some give us some money turn out at Belmarsh on Monday or any day next week when the trials going on Keep an eye out for the material the posters the leaflets the briefings that we're producing and spread them around Around your friends on social media your family your workmates your trade unionists People you know in your church or your mosque. There's no end of things that can be done Thank you, John for your time So we leave that up Sorry about the paragraph long come on. No worries Hayden. How are you doing? Welcome to no live stream So let me just switch up the view we have Hayden here that mentioned that He He wants to catch up on what's taking place so far So I thought I'd give you guys a little rundown just speedy Gonzales style and this question was actually asked of me during the last live stream And if you go to our playlist here here Hayden, let me show you let me bring this up Let me kick back to the other view. This is our Julian Assange WikiLeaks and Julian Assange playlist So we've covered a lot of material so far. All of this is Everything about Julian. Well as much as we've covered on Julian Assange in the last Three years, I guess and we've talked about Julian Assange before this as well And we're in about Julian Assange But we started off with a reading of vault seven and we did some live streams to our live streams and we did a reading of WikiLeaks Guantanamo Bay files as well as the OPCW and here's a video I put out Just because someone asked the same question on the last stream So let's just take a look at this video and then I'll expand on it's just a two and a half minute video, okay because From there I can build it up, right? I can give you a little bit of more history extra drying Assange while the USA Refuses to extradite and skulls would make the UK and UK government look extremely weak. They're puppets It's not even just a weak birdie. They are puppets. Okay, so the UK the government On the UK right now Does not really represent the laws in the UK. It is being governed by outside parties. What an amazing That was a good video, right? It was good intro sort of brought not brought people up to speed of what's going on but Where the battle is right now and here's a quick little video two and a half minute video when someone asked me What has Julian Assange revealed? What has this information done for us, right? So let me just play this Thanks for streaming question Assange What has he accomplished by releasing secret documents? What has changed? What is better? Oh, wow So much look at the information is there for anyone that wants it look at vault seven now, you know Anybody that says well anybody's as paranoid the government's doing Now you know what the government is capable of doing on the internet Which is basically masking One of the things they can do is they can mask the signatures of where the information is being sold And all that jazz, right Guantanamo Bay files, you know that They tortured a lot of people Many times and the information they were getting majority of it most of it all of it was just BS one bit of information they got that they used to sell this iraq invasion in 2003 was that Saddam Hussein was trying to build more chemical weapons or nuclear weapons, which was obtained under torture and I'll you know They they obtained them under torture after torturing a person for like 85 times of waterboarding, which was false the guy read Redacted that information not redacted but said oh, I lied because we're torturing me, right? So false information from the opc. W. Domo docs We know that centralized institutions are supposed to watch dog to prevent prohibition of chemical Weapons around the world was co-opted by the united states, right to wage war on Syria They lie. They held back information, right? Just imagine What that means what julian asanjan wiki leaks have done the leaks have done is Unprecedented what they have done in the last 10 years 12 years of being active, right? Is a game changer a game changer Unprecedented The most important journalist in the world julian asanjan the most important platform to share information At the whole power accountable wiki leaks Do not discount what their effects have been unprecedented unprecedented Sorry, I'm cutting myself off short but so basically, let me give you a rundown of wiki leaks speedy ones ala style, right? wiki leaks when they came online their mission was to Provide a platform where whistleblowers high st. James just reminded where whistleblowers could leak information to hold power accountable right anonymously Very very important This is something that people have done with journalists left and right over the years right over the decades over the centuries really right, but it's been very dangerous for whistleblowers to do this with Centralized centralized power because they were easily found out who they were and they were severely punished executed Eliminated whatever you want to call it, right? So wiki leaks provided a platform where people could anonymously leak information to hold power accountable Once they created this platform because there was so much Wrong being done in the world in the name of citizens of certain countries Okay, certain people stepped up and they started leaking information leaking information to wiki leaks and wiki leaks started hitting the radar people's radar The country that is the most active in the world in the most number of countries In a brutal sense really that has tentacles everywhere Everyone knows who that is and that is the united states of america, right? So a lot of leaks, I mean all you have to do is look at the mathematics Just look at how much money the united states spends on weapons and how much the rest of the world spends on weapons the united states spends 10 times more than the next 10 combined or something like this So obviously there's going to be more leaks coming in From the united states because they're active everywhere with 180 military bases around the world and actively Engaged with multiple organizations multiple Countries around the world, right? So leaks started coming in a lot of them from the united states the leak that really put wiki leaks and julien assange on the radar to be Of the powers that be that they realized wait a second We can't allow this platform to function Okay, and we cannot allow julien assange to go unpunished, right and that Video that leak was a collateral murder video Okay, there were leaks before that, but it was a collateral murder video that really Put julien assange on the crosshairs of power. Okay Now what is the collateral murder video? Guess what? There's a short version of the collateral murder video. We've talked about this that julien assange or wiki leaks put out. Let me find it for you Okay, here it is and Here, let me organize this. Let's take a look at a three and a half minute video of the collateral murder video Which should give you appreciation of How important this leak was and this was at the time bradley manning chelsea manning as far as we know That leaked this right? Let me just read one comment before we go on. Oh gee asreal That's the biggest problem with torture even staying away from the moral and ethical Elements the threat of torture is much more effective at getting accurate info than the act itself People will say anything to stop being drunk 100% right and one of the lies that they used to justify the invasion of iraq in 2013 was Lies that they obtained all under torture right and they sold that to the american people in america You know citizens of the united states were like all gung-ho. Let's go invade iraq because They're part of al-qaeda, which which is all of it was complete lies. We all know this now, right? I have no idea what that means So here's the video shortened version of the collateral murder video and this video is available Thanks spider-man. This video is available in its entirety on the wiki leaks Page all you got to do is go wiki leaks collateral murder video So let me change the view again and let's take a look at this video Anyone ever tell you that you look like I have no idea who that person is Let's take a look I don't know how many times I've watched that video the full version and it's still devastating And it is still unbelievable Especially when you realize What took place? What took place in the build up to that? just so We put this into context The importance of this video was there repercussions For what the u.s. Soldiers did here the repercussions was their crucifying julien assange right they put bradley manning in jail and she's Back in jail tread chelsea manning now, of course chelsea manning is back in jail I'll see but needs more context. Let me give you more context. Okay now Everyone knows that militaries that engage in war lie about civilian deaths. Everyone knows this, right? If you don't notice You're born today It's not even yesterday. If you were born yesterday, you would notice, right? You're born today Okay so United states has been denying that they've been killing civilians every time it comes out that they kill civilians all There were terrorists all the way there's the way there's the way this was awesome, right? This video came out after The news of this event Hit the Hit the stage, right? So when the news came out that These people were killed by american soldiers The american military came out and said there were militants, right? There were terrorists. They had weapons, right? All eyewitness testimony and everyone that knew what was going on was coming out and saying no They were not terrorists. There were two journalists that were actually two journalists in this and you didn't see the two kids There were also two kids in that van that the u.s. Military was shooting up. There were two children in that van Okay, the longer version of this video contains all the footage that you need to see, right? And it must be it should be viewed by everyone in the united states Of what their taxpayers are doing in certain countries, right? If I was a history teacher I would start the year off by showing this video, right? That is why i'm not In a centralized education system, right? Because I would get my ass fired, right? Because I would Be held accountable to centralized power, right? History classes should start off with this video now when The american military was denying that they had killed Two journalists that they had just annihilated a whole bunch of civilians that were doing nothing They annihilated a van that was Removing wounded Wounded people to take them to the hospital, which is a war crime. It's un Like it's crazy. It's a complete war crime, right? They were denying this, right? They were saying there were militants over this there were no journalists and all this jazz All of a sudden chelsea manning had leaked this information because she was At the time bradley manning working for a military I'm pretty sure anyone working for a military was aware of the crimes that were that were being committed and Bradley chelsea manning was one of the people that couldn't stand it anymore because she believes in the constitution of the united states and International law that war criminals should be held accountable should So she leaked this information to wiki leaks and this video came out as soon as this video came out everybody realized that If they hadn't already realized which they would have been living in a tree house somewhere, right? that Everyone it became fact it became real for them that the united states military Was actively executing civilians and journalists in iraq and hiding What was taking place there was there's secondary tertiary repercussions of this right because Personally, I haven't followed up on who the soldiers were that actually committed these war crimes But there's a lot of like if you look at the suicide raid in the united states for military personnel x military personnel It's double what the general population is right. So there's a lot of military that is holding A lot of guilt within there's ptsd and stuff like this So it goes into the domestic politics of everything as well right as well as Economics of it if you look at the afghan war afghan war papers that will leak through washington post It's come out that since the bush junior administration when they went to afghanistan for the last 20 years 19 years Every administration has lied to the american people that they're winning the afghan war They all know that they're losing the afghan war. There's no nothing to win there, right? And they've spent like four five six trillion dollars of us taxpayer money To lie to the american people and kill Who knows how many people in afghanistan the rest of the world, right? So their repercussions of this video were huge this really put julien sange on the radar on of the united states government, which is really kickstarted their crucifixion Their their attempts to crucify julien sange, which they have been doing for the last number of years, right? I'm just going to read a little bit of the chat that was being popped up Because I didn't want to break my train that was popping up and was reading at the same time trying to do the same thing, right? So that's the collateral murder video, right huge huge huge huge huge Really gigantic So i'm just going to read Uh Stop saying i'm sorry sleepy ways Yeah, chelsea because at the time when this came out she was bradley, right? So i'm putting into context of what took place but chelsea manning of course, right? There's many apache kill cam videos on youtube I've watched them all in a couple of years ago with a bunch of friends while we were hot So many videos are like does he have a weapon? I don't know blast them makes people think yeah Targus were frequently combatants that were tracked to locations while wearing civilian clothing combatants frequently engaged In this video, there were non-combatants That is that is a given post apocalypse it Afterwards the american military, I believe they came and said yeah, we killed journalists and riddled a van with two kids in it full of bullets and they were removing Uh the wounded to take them to the hospital and that is a literal war crime like this There's a definition of war crime. That's a war crime. You can't assassinate people While they're the injured people while they're the man didn't have you know markings of ambulance and stuff in it If it did I mean that would have been just Over the top I guess right? Unfortunately the media did a good job Presenting Assange as the reason Hillary lot. Yeah, unfortunately. They did right? I'm in florida. So this is my country doing that It's it canada was involved in this as well canada was giving logistics for the Iraq war, right? We're involved in afghanistan. We helped destroy libya, right? So it's not the blame is not all on the united states There are many western countries that participated in these war crimes, right? Sounding like they were attempting to follow rules of engagement They held fire until they believed they were armed They they were not armed No one in their right mind thinks that they were armed, right post-apocalypse and what they were doing was basically doing what bureaucracy Does right they're getting the okay from the superiors to shoot up a bunch of civilians, right? And the superiors were obviously watching this on video as well I'm pretty sure because everything's being live streamed and all this jazz video game for them So they were given a go-ahead to light them up Right? This is a pure no one disputes that this is not a war crime every like Who maybe rumsfeld says that this is an war crime? Maybe cheney says that this is an war crime But any sane person would agree that this was a war crime They shot up a whole bunch of civilians journalists including and a van that wasn't even part of that group That came to remove the wounded, right in what war in what International law is justified to shoot up a van that is removing the wounded off the battle Ground if you want to call it that right? Straight up war crime. There's no excuse. There's no argument. There's no there's nothing you could say about this, right? And this is the reason the main Sort of catalyst that put julienous on the crosshairs Saying that this is uh, this is a not so ideal situation to understand understatement But they didn't track them to that location. They thought they they have a k But obviously didn't identify it very well since it wasn't International law and the specific rules of engagement state that armed fighters are legitimate targets Whether these particular people or actual combatants, they were not armed. There were no weapons there. I'm sorry You need to watch the whole video, right? difficult to see That means you don't engage Yeah, man. These are drones doing the killing. Unfortunately, uh, this was an Apache helicopter real people doing it, right? We fly these things 24 seven million. Right. I believe these this was an Apache helicopter. It wasn't I don't think it was a drone was it There's so much that's come out It's hard to keep track of it all, right? I will say that insurgents always try and grab the dead and guns after Fights do the beliefs of a burial either way. They shot up people removing bodies from a massacre Typically, they would be Directed to a group of people by intelligence that were tracking people They make the Determination about who they are and whether they are combatants or not. The pilot then has limited ability to determine that From a distance sometimes back calls remain. This wasn't just a bad call. This was a cover-up that was Exposed when this video came out. The United States military kept on denying that civilians were killed in this massacre Right, you have to put it into context It wasn't that the video was released right when the massacre happened the massacre happened Civilians journalists were killed children were shot up The u.s. military denied everything until the video came out and they kept on denying it until it was obvious that they couldn't deny it anymore, right? So There's no There's no excuse for what took place, right? What are the statistics on these types of drone strikes? How many civilians do we kill per enemy? Here's the kicker riot sometime during the Iraq war and the afghan war the u.s. military said they're not going to count the civilian killed civilian massacred anymore So they stopped counting the civilian massacres. Okay If the data is giving you problems, right? Making your optics look bad in front of the citizens of the united states. You just don't collect that data anymore, right? Simple as that. Okay, the video shows at the very least Lacks and rules in in in front of bad calls are made But when they are 10 plus civilians on the live, you don't call unless you know to be war crime It must be international accidental targeting of civilians does not qualify But it's obviously a huge problem to try to Post apocalypse you can justify this any which way you want. I know it's hard to live with It's very hard for me to watch this thing. I've had to watch it multiple times now, right? I wish I didn't have to watch this thing, but you know Whatever you need to do to be able to live with yourself and live with the fact that this has taken place multiple times during the last 20 years and more obviously Right, but to such a degree is Unbelievable to me anyway Why solidarity confined such a terrible? Why is solitary confinement such a terrible punishment? Because we are As human beings need to engage with other human beings. Okay, otherwise we go insane It depends on the severity of the crime a cover-up equals war plus cover Prusa cover equals war crime. Is it true? Is it sure look like a drone? That's a circling and not a static path. Okay, it might be a drone. Okay It was an Apache It was an Apache it is a gruesome, but it was in war situation shooting people getting wounded Or bodies is allowed as long as they are combatants themselves again post apocalypse. They were if these military personnel The people who pulled the trigger to the pilot to the people watching this on video live streaming in the combat room If they couldn't tell that these people were civilians Then they are noobs. They are Children with guns, right? They have not been trained to be able to engage in war. Okay if you if you need to go to surgery and Someone chops you up left and right trying to remove you You can't you can't justify this any which way, right? These military personnel will not people that were put in in this type of situation In the last week, right? Obviously they have been in this situation before You can you can make it a bad call if you want put it under a bad call But if I was a private employer and I hired people like this my company would go bankrupt, right? You don't just say oops my bad to this kind of terrible. You don't though. We are normalizing war My wife is watching with me and she is absolutely shocked the u.s. Government needs to be held accountable No one was held accountable spider-man dehumanizing people People makes it easier for them to say they are armed when they are not sign of the kill murdered It is difficult to divide people but the divide between combatant and non-combatant deaths because combatants abandoned post-apocalypse brother or sister of course I'm sorry the the number of civilians that have been slaughtered in afghanistan in libya in iraq in syria by the allied coalition u.s. nato forces is Huge huge Right, but that's sort of the way war goes a lot of Civilians get massacred during wartime right more civilians than soldiers Okay, so any which way you look at it the u.s. Military did not come out and say Oh We killed a whole bunch of civilians right They still denied it even after this video came out Right, so just imagine how many times this has happened where we don't have the video Okay, how many chelsea mannings do we need within the u.s. Military to be leaking information For citizens of united states to know exactly what is taking place in their name Right with their tax dollars and we're not talking chump change here We're talking just in afghanistan alone five trillion dollars or about in the last 19 years That's no joke. What could you do with five trillion dollars if you had it? I'd provide free health care to everyone maybe Right free education. What would you call it buy everyone a lollipop? Right? Regardless, there were no visible weapons. There were no combatants in that there there is none I think post apocalypse is just trying to deal with it in in a certain way that his psyche allows him to do That and that's okay if you need to deal with it in that type of light then deal with it in that type of light and try to Sort out your emotions over the next few years or decades and hopefully you realize what has taken place and You reconsider Your perspective on it Okay Also, we don't know if the people in the van are combat the people in the van there were kids, man There were if you watch the longer video, there were two kids Okay in the van it was basically I believe it was a father and two kids and one of their friends that saw people Believing to death and they went to help Right and check this out When the kids were shot up the u.s. military's foot soldiers came into the scene and they Looked at the scene and they realized. Oh my god We because the foot soldiers were not involved with the Apache helicopter, right? They came in and went. Oh my god our Our friends just massacred a whole bunch of civilians, right and they saw two kids there right and went. Oh my god. There's two kids that we just Shot up, right? So I believe a couple of soldiers grabbed the kids they put them in a military military car Military van or something like this, right? And military Humvee and they drove to American military base because they knew there was medical personnel there that could help the children Right when they got to the American military base The guards denied the entry. They said those kids cannot be treated in the Hospital that was set up on the military base and the soldiers were trying to say look we shot up these kids They're dying, right? We need to we need to do this, right? Because the soldiers are not Bad per se, right? They're just following orders. It's just a machine bureaucracy, right? Sure, there are bad apples in there But there are people in there that really are human they're kids like a lot of these soldiers are just kids 18 year old 19 year old kids that That were put in this type of situation. So they were trying to help out these two little Pre-teens right if you watch the video and the US military base denied them entry and they had to drive further to take them to The medical facility within The town that they were in right now. I don't know. I think the kids survived If I recall correctly, but I don't know the odds are I mean What's your life going to be if you shot up with? Bullets that are this big from a Apache helicopter. I have no idea man. What did you lose? You lose arms and legs and what Also, we don't know if the people in the back Civilians die. Okay. I've missed a whole bunch of chats. So I'm going to scroll down gang Chicho, I would mostly blame this on the higher ups because even though they sounded like bad people because of their commas But if I'm in that Scenario, I can't just disobey orders because then I'm committing a crime Hayden, I agree with you the american military. There's a lot of people a lot of kids there A lot of kids there that are just They're they're out of circumstance man. They're they're out of circumstance Okay I'm trying to show that there are two sides. Sure post apocalypse birdie here. I'm not sure why your comment was Auto mod zapped it We can sit here and say it was hard to see but in the video They state as if it's clear as they there are multiple aks not any mention Then they may not be armed or it is hard to see. This is the least monumental Okay, this is sorry, uh, birdie here had to approve it manually. Okay Of course, there are two sides to every story Now that put julien assange on the crosshairs for the u.s. Military for the u.s. government, right? They they pulled every string they could to get their hands on chelsea manning really The ua the whole apparatus u.s. Government went after chelsea manning they were And the way they found out That chelsea manning was a person was a person that leaked this information Was because chelsea manning confined it confided in one of her friends, right? And the friend Gave her up, right? Higher higher usually clueless, right? So the friend gave her up And that's how they found out and all this jazz and this really Kicked things into gear and if you look at the Basically We did a reading through it during one of the live streams that The documents that the u.s. Government filed to get julien assange extradited from the from the uk And a lot of it had to do with the leaks that chelsea manning provided, okay I believe all of it had to do with the leaks that chelsea manning provided and I don't have I unfortunately I didn't I didn't prep that website where all that it was listed of The charges that they're filing under That they filed to get julien assange extradited, right? So Because We covered it, but it's not really relevant Because anybody that knows what's going on, you know exactly why julien assange is being crucified and the reason julien assange is being crucified is To use him as an example for other journalists and other whistleblowers to make sure that this type of information is not Leaked to the general population anymore. Basically our centralized governments want to be able to commit war crimes Commit massacres do whatever the Hell they want. Okay in the world without being held accountable And no one has no one has been held accountable for any of these war crimes that have been committed, right? So that's the reason that julien assange is being Again crucified crucified is the best way to say this, right? and By the way, let me show you what some activism can Look like right because a few days ago. Let me show you this video as well. Okay So that's this was a collateral murder video, right? Let me change the view on this thing So this was the collateral murder video that we just saw the short version, right? And there's a longer version obviously on wiki leaks page But here's a one and a half minute video where A bunch of activists and this was loaded up on february 20th, right and rt loaded this I couldn't find this on anywhere else not on the western mainstream propagandists anyway, and this is What activism can look like there was a bunch of people that Projected the collateral murder video on the parliament building. I think it was a parliament building. What was it projected on? Uh Campaigners have projected the footage of an american airstrike on iraqi civilians Originally exposed by wiki leaks onto the parliament building in london to protest against the proposed extradition To the us of julien assange now just imagine if this Took place in every city in the united states, right? I hope I see it Let's take a look at this video Parliamentary report that's going to the council of europe that this extradition Should be opposed and the rights of journalists and whistleblowers Upheld for the good of all of us Okay, so I thought that was pretty important personally Phenomenal activism Really brings the point across right Apache uses a 30 millimeter gun fire from a long distance using a night vision video camera to aim It was designed for fighting armored vehicles Well, they shot up a whole bunch of civilians Hey chicho intelligent blueberry. How are you doing? I have a question regarding the gpa concept Is it important to have a high gpa between three to four when it comes to applying for jobs? No intelligent It really depends on what type of job you're applying for but no I doubt it if that's That's becoming less and less Important or even when it comes to future working performance No, the only place the main place that gpa matters if you plan on going the academic route where you want to Go to post-secondary education or whatever it is. You want to go into it, right? So that's one filter they use to You know decide who gets into their program or who doesn't get into their program when it comes to the real world the workforce GPA doesn't matter Okay, the courses you take does matter your experience does matter the programming languages You know does matter, right? But gpa know as far as I know very few people give a rat's ass about okay While I understand the Sleepy waves while I understand the mechanisms that the military police use to recruit the poor I still do believe you choose to sell your body and soul to the state to continuous suppression in exchange for crumbs from the state sleepy waves the kicker is some people don't have any other out right the centralized education almost guarantees that you do not question the military machine or your centralized government and Most people when they realize what has taken place what they've signed up for to get an education to get health care to get out of Poverty. It's too late. They've already found themselves massacring Civilians right and now they have to live with that trauma Of having done that right some people adjust A lot of people won't right I personally wouldn't If I was put in that situation, how do you deal with yourself if you were the person pulling the trigger here? I don't know. I really don't know how you would deal with yourself, right? I'm more of a centralist, but I do think anyone exposing government secrets of crimes or possible crimes should be illegal I'm more of a Centralist, but I do think that anyone exposing government secrets of crimes or possible crimes shouldn't be legal agreed Because it's for the betterment of the society and there are clauses in there saying You're allowed to do this, right? If you see someone committing a war crime someone committing crimes against humanity crimes against peace Extorting funds. You're allowed to blow the whistle on them, right? If the pilots fired knowing that they were an armed non-combatants Then they would be clearly in the wrong and would be held accountable If accidental then the consequences are less clear depends on the circumstances post-apocalypse None of that looked accidental to me. I think the situation is more great than is portrayed From the video Doesn't look great to me. Okay, and especially considering that the united states government Was denying what took place for I can't remember how long after The events that took place and for how many months the u.s government was denying what was taking place Until chelsea manning released that information. Okay to wiki leaks and by time wiki leaks vetted out Uh vetted the information out and was able to release it. I think it was a couple of years Two three years before we saw the video during that whole time the u.s military was denying what took place, right? Is the purpose to continue showing that video to have people hate america more than there? No It's not it's it's like saying oh that wiki leaks released this information the chelsea manning released this information To have people hate america. Absolutely not is to reveal war crimes like just because The truth hurts it doesn't mean the truth is bad Right or has an alternate agenda. The truth is the truth Right people have to appreciate that Respectfully disagree very clear. They state the the state the van is picking up bodies. They shoot it up No marks on on gunfire guns Who's in the van picking up bodies to take the medical care? Not great at all So one some people sign up because they think serving their country is honorable agreed Uh vulla 100% agreed. I don't deny that. All right People look at uh look at tulsi gabbard. She came out. She's come out and said she joined the military After 9 11 because she wanted to serve her country, right? and what took place was those in power abused Their position of power they lied to the american people and they took them to wars that had nothing to do with 9 11 the The people in charge of the united states the bush regime right bush junior regime They invaded iraq knowing that iraq had nothing to do with 9 11 or al-qaeda This is fact Okay, this is 100% fact Now that we know this and we've known this for a while now, right? The There's no denying it. Like everybody knows this. They've even admitted they came out and lied about this, right? They lied to get the united states into a war, right? Why are they? Not held accountable for their crimes You have to ask yourself that It's not the soldiers that are responsible for what's taken place It's the people that sent the soldiers into these countries, right? Which is the reason why julien the song is being crucified, right? Why wiki leaks is on the crosshairs is because they're revealing the truth Right of why these wars are taking place now citizens of countries can decide that they want to Close their eyes. I don't speak, right? because they don't want to know they don't want to know that Crimes are being committed in their name because there's too much to deal with, okay? So really Don't we shouldn't go off tangents and blame the soldiers and blame this but it is a machine That is doing this, right? We have to take a look at this machine and figure out how we can fix this Okay Closing our eyes ears and not speaking about it is not going to solve anything, right? We're just guaranteeing that more crimes like this will be committed and they have been committed since this video was released Look at what we did to libya For lies again, right? Look at what we did to syria for lies again, right? How many times must this take place for us to say, okay? We got a question. What the hell is taking place here, right? Which is what? the u.s government the uk government The powers that want to wage war Don't want to happen, which is why they're going after julian asanjan wiki leaks, okay? They stated in a video that they were picking up weapon Apocalypse They shot the video we see what's taking place in the video, right? It's like the police saying don't resist don't resist while they shoot up someone tied up with their hands in their back, right? They're just playing a scene, right? They're just saying what they need to say to record it so they can do what they need to do, right? When you see someone accidentally shooting themselves with their hands tied behind their back with the police lighting them up What are you gonna believe the court systems aren't prosecuting the police, okay? People know what's up, right? It doesn't have to be shown over no it doesn't but Not for us anyway. We've seen it as far as i'm concerned. Voila this activism this type of activism with projecting this One and a half minute video on buildings Should be done across the united states in every city because most people haven't seen this How is that possible? Right? Most citizens of the united states have no idea what the collateral murder video is Right the mainstream media cnn I believe it was even told their viewers that it was illegal for them to go on wiki leaks and read stuff Right, just imagine the main one of the main corporate propagandists in the united states Called a news agency news channel Told their citizens that it is illegal for them to go to wiki leaks What? Really? Is this the type of society we want to live in? Is this the type of society that you think will See humanity into the future or you would like them to see humanity into the future? Not me not me and if the Corporate propagandists are not sharing the truth with the citizens then the citizens have to bring the truth to the streets Right, that's the way I see it I want to see this video projected in every city in every western country In the world, okay, including canada and the uk and france and italy and germany, right? Soldiers have have have to depend on the chain of command giving them a justified mission on accurate information Yeah, I agree post apocalypse Ramesy otra the 22 year old who filmed eric garner is still in prison for filming his murder Yeah, he is set to come out this summer But he was literally the only person who went to prison because of that situation People in the states in this case here in new york city don't even know the law Yeah Sleepy ways. I agree. It's insane It seems like so many people just don't actually care about the proof or the facts anyway Willful ignorance what can be done? the kicker is I think if people were given a legitimate choice They would care, right? The problem the problem is is a centralization of power centralization of information censorship If we have a platform where people are exposed to points of view when there's open discussion Then people will start to care. There are many examples of many people Becoming hardcore activists once they will learn the truth, right? Lonely piggy, how are you doing? Hey chi chou and chat. Hope everyone's doing well doing well brother. Thank you Many pilots of drones and attack aircraft Felt uncomfortable with the frequent ambiguity of targets, but that was the job they were given Geneva convention has come and said we we figured that out after world war two that Committing war crimes is not justified Justifier an excuse By saying that the chain of command told me to do so, right soldiers are not robots Okay, soldiers can be held accountable if war crimes are committed And they can't use the excuse of the chain of command told me to do this. This is international law post apocalypse They had to make calls based on limited information and hope it was the right one At the very least hundreds of thousands civilians were killed in Iraq. Do you think all of those were Accidental post apocalypse how many how many were deemed acceptable casualties? All of them is the answer after the incident the similar ones The top leaders changed the rules of engagement to be more cautious now post apocalypse Did they change the rules of engagement after this incident or were they forced to change the rules of engagement after the leaked video? Ask yourself that if they change the rules of engagement after all this information was coming out then How important is wiki leaks in julien assange? How important has their journalism been? How important is chelsea manning? right Very very very important. Does the united states government united states military want to Change more rules of engagement based on more leaked information. Hell no They want to continue doing what it is that they're doing right? Do you have a source on that? Not all were accidental, but those who were caught were charged with murder and serve time and 11 were for uh post apocalypse who was As far as I know very few Soldiers and Sending the foot soldiers to serve time in jail for commands passed down for higher ups is the wrong thing to do You need to go to the higher up and send them to jail, right? And the foot soldiers who pull the trigger Get them mental health because they're gonna have ptsd, right? The people in power who told the soldiers to pull the triggers They're the psychopaths, right? They're the murderers, right? The soldiers further down, right? They're they're kids, man. They need Support they need help Okay, because they're coming back to our Communities traumatized I served in the us army during that time in an Apache unit I would say that the leak video certainly put pressure on leaders to to be more careful Here so post apocalypse. We agree on that, right? What was their main Reaction to these videos being released it wasn't to change the rules of engagement in a big way It was to go after wiki leaks and julien assange Just imagine the resources they put into play to go after julien assange and wiki leaks, right? So they're not admitting their crimes. They're not trying to change their ways They're trying to punish the people who are forcing them to change their ways, right? That is a that is a destructive machine Okay, it seems you have a bias because you're reserving time, which I totally understand. I yeah for me as well Of course, I have a regarding by the way, that's spiderman Talking to post apocalypse, right? Of course, I have a bias But I also have perspective and information that a viewer of these videos out of context will not have Agreed rules tempted glasses. I'm afraid I understand and I can see your perspective as well Now What else do I have lined up here? Here's the Let's watch another video a speech given by yannis Vodafakas a powerful speech on free assange in london This is this one is a four and a five minute video that We can watch. Okay. Let's take a look at this video as well Now that I caught up with the chat Let's bring that down. Let me bring up the chat. Okay So let's just watch this video just this speech as well and there's count There's a few speeches that you can watch and personally for me I found it Beautiful that so many people had Shown up for this march. I wish there were hundreds of thousands But even this many Is a good thing. Okay So hold on. Let me adjust the volume here. So we don't blow out everybody's ears like we did on the previous one You can chain me. You can torture me. You can destroy my body, but you can't imprison my mind. Well julian Julian you have won the right to say this, but we Don't have the right to agree with them We have a duty We have a duty to stop them from destroying julian's body We have a duty not to let them continue his torture comrades First they came for julian Next they will come for a comrades our friends our neighbors Immediately after that they will come for the good people of the guardian and of the bbc They will go after any arm who dares challenge the right of power of the oligarchy without frontiers To commit crimes against humanity in our name without our knowledge Do you remember some months ago? Mike Pompeo Let me remind you who that gentleman is He was trump's first choice for cia director and currently the secretary of state He described wikileaks as a non-governmental hostile intelligence service You know what? He's right This is exactly what wikileaks is But also it is exactly what any self regarding newspaper television station radio station should be a non-governmental intelligence service on behalf of citizens that are looking critically at their government dan elsberg That wonderful whistleblower one of my greatest heroes and nom chomsky another hero house They warned The journalists who are failing so spectacularly to defend julian today They want them You are next You are on a hit list with a ranking order the hit list of president trump who considers All of the press to be the enemy of the people When you turn in blind eye to julian's torture You are consenting to your own emasculation. That is our message to the bbc That is our message to the guardian Of course you do not need me to lecture you because by being here you have proven That you know all that But you've also acquired the duty we all have To let into the secret those who are not here today because you know julian's worst enemy Freedom's worst enemy are not even people in smoke filled rooms Plotting against good people no julian's worst enemy freedom's worst enemy Is apathy It is good people too tired Too exhausted too disheartened working zero hour contracts, whatever To be able to expend the energy that you and I have the privilege of expending today It is banality It is people who are neither good nor bad working in these offices in white hole No, they're not evil They're just banal To banal together We have to make them get on the top of March In a few days time One of the projects that julian and i started is going to see the light of day watch out for euro leaks Soon after we met together with brian, you know who hates things They smoke it but it's not a smoke plate because as brian knows what we started With julian asans in february 2016 in berlin the democracy in europe movement now has Tens of thousands of members everywhere as we speak A similar demonstration is taking place in Athens with our members of parliament Representing the movement that julian asans helped to put together Tomorrow i'm going to be mel belmosh visiting together with john shifton Julian's my great-grandfather julian I will go in there with fabrication in the sense of guilt because i'm going to walk you there But i'm also going to walk out of And basically what he says there is he feels guilty of watching the other video where He's going to be walking in but He will be able to walk out but julian will still be stuck in prison. Are we still connected up? Oh, there we are. Okay, so we're still alive good these errors from ob s Um, they're just post-apocalypse regarding this thing with julian asans helping uh, chelsea manning Hack into the thing first of all He wasn't able to access the data through asans's help Second of all all journalists do this they help their sources access information, right? This is something that Has been talked about by numerous people Um, including some of the mainstream journalists saying, look, this is what we do We try to help our sources to get us more information period, right? So basically they're trying to crucify them for journalism Who's steps over the line the people committing the crimes or the people exposing them? Well, both can be crimes sure, but there is A relative aspect to the whole thing, but julian did a greater good for society in the process huge huge huge really like what What wikileaks has done for humanity is I really can't think of any other Platform any other time in history where so much has been revealed about power Uh, so quickly to shine a light on what's taking place in the world Wikileaks is it, right? In my opinion depends public institutions should not have the right to privacy that we should however these days It's only them who have it Cut katarats. I 100% agree with you Power needs transparency human beings us we need privacy If you wield more power, then you have to have more transparency If you don't hold power over anyone else you're living your life Then you need complete privacy anonymity, right? So you can treat this as a scale system, right? The more power the institutions and people have the more transparency they must have Okay, the light must be shining on them because they control Much a lot of power. Okay Me and you We don't wield that much power. Okay That's the way privacy should be played out And that's the way wikileaks and julien and saans have agreed that that's the way That's one of their main thesis as to why wikileaks came to be power needs to be held accountable Right. I don't understand what they're trying to say about russia Like are they still trying to say russia interfered the 2000 Sleepy waves. They're not only trying to say russia interfered in 2016 elections They're trying to say russia is interfering in the 2020 elections. Can you believe it? It's like the circus is it and some people actually believe this crap Right. Like really it's unbelievable to me I Questioned their sanity many people and I have questioned the sanity of many of my friends, right? I pissed some people off too bad as Gabel maté erin maté's father and gabel maté deals with addiction is from canada and vancouver and He's done a tremendous amount of amazing work with addiction and mental health and stuff like this, right? And as he would say and as he had said It is better to be disillusioned than to be illusioned, right? So whenever I see someone being Under the hypnosis of the centralized power believing this kind of garbage that russia gate and this and this and this I do my part to disillusion them, right? And sometimes I'm a little bit too harsh on my disillusion disillusionment process Yeah, there have been many journalists who have done similar or worse things to get info stories the uk newspapers That tapped phones of famous people comes to mind. Yeah Nicholas, how are you doing? Hey chichou, hey chat just home. How was the stream? The stream was pretty good pretty intense as you can guess Nicholas as you can guess Influenced on of china and us politics in the build billion times stronger in russia most of it by Technically legal means Agree china's influence on us politics is a lot more than russia, but there is another country whose influence Dwarfs any other countries influence, right? And that is israel. Okay israel The influence they have on the us elections is like two three four orders of magnitude greater than what china is okay, so I don't think any sane american should Really believes the russia gate story the kicker is the disclaimer there sane american or sane human being or sane canadian I live in canada and there's canadians that actually bought this russia gate thing hook line and singer sinker, right? I had a lot of discussions with people that I told them in 2016 when this thing came out. I said look now you're being duped stop watching cnn and abc and all this crap And three years down the road they turned to me and go. Oh my god. I wasted three years of my life believing this bs right It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate Should we leave read a few paragraphs of this thing or Let me do this What kind of reaction do you get when you bring these Kinds of things to the attention of others. I want to talk about it to friends and family But don't really know how to go about it. Hello, sir. Hello warbur She knew um I don't necessarily try to bring it up personally It has come out with a number of my friends and associates and stuff like this They don't bring this up anymore around my presence because I don't let Garbage slip by like if they make a comment regarding anything I lay them down with a little bit of truth, right? If they if they ever dare to mention julien assange's you know Pair it. What's cnn or abc or anything they've read on facebook tells them. I usually Always Set the record straight. So they don't really mention that crap around me anymore, right? So you do alienate yourself to a certain degree through certain discussions, but That keeps that Focus on them, right? It keeps them in their mind that you Think opposite of them. So when at some point they do get exposed to the truth The first person to come to mind for them That told them that they were being lied to would be you. So you open the door for them to Talk to you again regarding these situations if they really want to know the truth, right? So it's not a short-term thing that you can change people's minds that have been Propagandized for a number of years, right? It doesn't happen central programming central indoctrination takes a long time to To break, right? So it's difficult. It's difficult to my understanding There's a lot of evidence that russia did interfere in the last election through targeted messages and disinformation campaigns using social media as real They spent how many thousands of dollars? Hillary clinton in the 2016 election spent one billion dollars You're telling me that let's assume russian agents russian people, which is russian people really it's not the russian government when they say russia It's not russia. It's a russian There's a difference, right? So russians spent a few thousand dollars creating memes and buying advertisements on facebook hillary clinton The dnc spent one billion dollars trying to get elected You're telling me the u.s. Elections Are so fragile that of that some people spending a few thousand dollars Can get their the person that they're pushing elected That's how fragile u.s. Democracy is and If it's that fragile, what right does the united states have or the western governments have to try to propagate? Try to force other countries to adopt this kind of democracy in their countries including invading them and destroying them Raising their countries to the ground, right? This is how fragile american democracy is that it can be co-opted it can be hijacked by Russians spending a few thousand dollars to counter billion dollars spent by the democrats that is insane That is insane I've read several books from a few different people on different sides of the fence. It's hard Hardly improbable and very easy to do with their tactics But don't think assange is an agent or or should like no, he's not, right? If you're in the cyber security space and have had to deal with assange I feel for you wiki leaks against tech companies can have unrealistic expectations Okay, slow and steady makes sense. Thank you. Love your stuff on youtube by the way First time catching is awesome. She knew she knew Yeah, slow and steady. You can't you can't do this speedy Gonzalez. You can't force reality on people who have been living An illusion, right? It shatters their minds and they crack. You don't want to crack people you love, right? You don't want to shatter their minds, right? Unless they're addicted to something then you want to really You know help them out, right? But if they're living their lives and doing their thing They're just uninformed. You don't want to shatter their minds because what that does is It alienates you, right? Then they won't talk to you. Unfortunately. I'm guilty of this. I've done this with some people But I'm very intolerant when it comes to ignorance especially in regards to people who are supposed to be well connected and Active online consuming information when they willingly consume propaganda, right? I'm more way more tolerant with students, of course, right with my students that I teach mathematics. I Like I'm very patient with adults. I have a less patience Okay Why won't it be Russia? Not like Putin has much moral scruples. Also, I'm not saying that at all Simply that there was intended interference. I made no claim of the efficiency of that interference Possibly, right? But if you want to see interference in in someone else's government in someone else's elections Look into what the united states did to russia in the 1990s, right? That is interference Really, you can't even compare What what has taken place, right? For a decade the united states alluded russia Right, they put a puppet in power And allowed the country to be decimated Okay, you have to put everything into perspective I'm really asking and not trying to troll. I like information. Yeah, for sure as are as a rule so it's You know If I if I make a meme does that mean I interfered in the elections in the united states? Not that I have All right By doing this does that does that mean I'm interfering in the elections in the united states? No, I'm speaking my opinion just because people speak their opinion and they're passionate about it It doesn't mean that they're interfering with the process. They are part of the process Right, just like the dnc spending a billion dollars to get a warmonger a mass murdering war criminal elected When she lost right and then you get at the other The other party getting into power, which is it's just a joke Right true, but media made it look like russia was the main fault. Oh, yeah, how's her thing? Are we still in this mode? Okay, let me we're not going to get a chance to read this thing I'm going to switch up to this mode apologies I was still in the other mode True, but media made it look like russia was the main fault for hitter losing and that he got debunked and uh Billingier Yeah, that's exactly what they did and one of the reasons they did that is because they needed to go after wiki leaks in june and Assange the u.s. Military the u.s. Government the powers that be the u.s. Propagandists so-called New sources the corporate centralized new sources they needed to get wiki leaks out of the game Right, and that's one of the reasons they pushed it Russia metal in the u.s. Of course, but the scale of it is relatively small. I I personally don't think russia meddled okay, we can we can argue all day and night on it and it's it's irrelevant because if they spent a few thousand dollars and like few thousand a billion We're talking about rounding error not even rounding error Right, it's like saying you count the american citizens down to the last person as opposed to the 100,000 like it doesn't even play out In any mathematical term it you wouldn't even any scientific term you wouldn't even Included in your data Okay, they looted russia in the 1990s. It was horrendous what they did in the 1990s to russia Unprecedented. Okay. Have you read the edward snowing book? If so, what do you think? I haven't read the edward snowing book, but I've been following edward snowing Since day one when the stuff was leaked out right The whole purpose of russia gate was to distract away from corruption and misdeeds in other areas by u.s politicians and lobbyists 100% agree post apocalypse Ununfortunately worked on a lot of people Right, you really think they framed this whole russia scenario so they could capture assange and blame weekly. It's part of it For sure. It's part of it For sure. It's part of it. By the way, I missed a lot of Follows and subs and Just letting you guys know. Thank you for the follows. Thank you for the subs. Okay. I don't I don't usually interrupt discussions To say so as they're coming up, but I do appreciate them. Thank you very much I don't know what the connection is. How is wiki leaks responsible for russia? That's the kicker They're trying to say russia and wiki leaks are connected and with drum. It's just insane. It's absurd Oh, I completely understand us a massive and aggressive international campaigns, but I don't like making tit for tat opinions of Jax hillary failed because she was a terrible kind of terrible terrible terrible They treat them. They treated the american people like idiots, right the dnc hillary That branch treated americans as if they were Dumb dumps incredible. How could americans stand for that, right? She called half of americans deplorable and the other half she treated like an idiot. It's like what? I have american friends. I've been to the united states Americans are some of the most intelligent people you ever talk to, right? They they understand their rights. They understand community support They understand what's going on economically politically even though they're it's not front and center But once you come out on straight out lie to them in their faces and spit on them Yeah, man, you're gonna get some people pissed off, right? And don't piss off americans, right? It's funny how everyone is freaking out about asylum seekers for from south america But have no idea that all the decentralization in the area basically completely the cia's fault that That's beyond the bait that it's beyond the bait. Look at what hillary did hillary obama did in honduras honduras is some of the Most amount of refugees coming in they're coming in from honduras and that's because Obama administration hillary they supported the coup in honduras military in honduras to put in Death squads in there, right? What did the what choice did the honduras have the cia is in there? Arming funding death squads to kill their family. Man, I get the hell out too Right chicho. I have been watching your streams for so long But hearing you say russia didn't spend significant time meddling in just watch this Is really surprised a contra as far as i'm concerned. It's it's not it wouldn't even count as An error in in the data, right? As scientifically it's insignificant Mathematically and so you were rounded up like you don't carry over Five decimal places When you're dealing in hundreds, right? Why why would you even consider that? It's like someone having cancer All over their body coming out of them and telling them to take vitamin c and it'll be good for them Okay, it'll be good for you, but down over right I think wiki leaks played a small but important role russia gay wasn't to attack wiki leaks in particular But it exposed some of the truth. They were trying to hide Hey chicho. Hope you're doing well, man Money, how are you doing zw money doing well, brother? Thank you or sister, of course, right? Is uh, it's gone going to be bloomberg hillary versus trump pens possibly possibly What a circus The vast majority u.s public has been internationally misinformed And when you combine that with people who rarely read beyond the headlines manipulation of opinion can sway elections Hey, chicho. Missed a couple of live streams. Hope all is well on your side James david Sutton. How's life brother? Hope you're doing well. Do you believe russia actually favors anyone? No We're just uh favors anyone. They didn't like hillary. That's a given hillary wanted to like seriously hillary was going to start war war three over syria Like people have to wrap their heads around this Hillary came out and said they wanted to impose a no-fly zone over syria because the u.s with turkey and israel and saudi arabia funding the Al Qaeda and they was al Qaeda. They're funding isis. Like everyone knows this now They even even hillary in front of congress said yes, we funded isis, right? They were funding. I said they wanted to impose a no-fly zone over russia Over syria russia had planes flying over syria So basically hillary was saying that they wanted to go to war with russia, right? What kind of a lunatic wants to do that, right? Of course russia most likely Didn't want hillary in power because there she was going to start war war three and russia was not going to pull out of syria russia gave their word to um Help the syrian government because they were invited into the syria to help the syrian government and russia Anyone that's ever dealt with russia knows russian history russia stands by their word when they say something they're doing it, right? So i'm pretty sure russia wanted trump in not hillary or Let me let me rephrase that that was basically russia wanted exactly what Every american wanted anybody but hillary right Most americans wanted anyway, right? Some people say it was anybody but trump. No, it was anybody but hillary. That's the reason trump got in Right, so russia was in the same mindset because they didn't want to go to war With the united states because the only way it would end would be nuclear war. Who the hell wants nuclear war other than the clinton's And the dnc, right? So no i'm not saying russia didn't favor anyone i'm saying the role they played was nothing compared to What internal domestic policy and us foreign policy was doing right? So do you have any definitive data to substantiate those kinds of claims? I don't know. I'm not sure which one you're referring to contra We're just wants to so Do you believe russia actually favors anyone or just wants to sow seeds of doubt into our minds about the integrity of your Selections. I don't look if the u.s. Elections are so fragile and obviously they are Did you see the way they were flipping coins in iowa? Like really that's u.s. Elect. That's u.s. Democracy and we're spending Hundreds of billion trillions of dollars trying to bring this democracy flipping a coin like this to the rest of the world What you kidding me? That's insane, man The manipulation by domestic Domestic sources including those with the dnc had a significant impact on elections russia not had Negligible impact 100% negligible is the right word, right? Look at the look at the democrat They they gave the questions to hillary in the debate against trough against bernie like Come on people russia favors russian interest should should be no surprise Should be no surprise. We live in a crazy crazy world. Lonely piggy It blows my mind how absurd this whole circus is right. It's like Really? As if nobody has studied science or understands mathematics like It's it's crazy Right russia is involved in syria just out of altruism though. It serves their geopolitical for sure That doesn't make them bad, but it does make them It doesn't make them good. No, I I agree with you. It doesn't make them bad It doesn't make them good, but they have a military base in syria Hillary clinton wanted to oppose impose a no-fly zone over syria What are you insane? You want to start a nuclear war with russia? You got to be kidding me russia thought trump would be more Uh, I'm impeccable to them than clinton, but that didn't quite happen. No, it didn't happen Right because russia trump has bought and paid for a thousand times over right But it didn't go to straight no-fly zone over syria Which really people really have to appreciate what that would have meant I don't think people do read uh Uh Azrael talking the lonely piggy that read blowout catch up and kill An a very stable genius and is it gets very chris I actually like the way US states are decentralized is hard to actually hack our national elections possibly the big like us elections were hacked Right us elections were compromised, but it wasn't by russia. It wasn't by china and it wasn't even by the By israel us election were hacked in 2016 with the democratic party, right? bernie sanders should have been nominated the elites Put hilary in power They took hilary and said no. This is our person, right? So Democracy was destroyed in the united states in 2016, but it wasn't russia or any other place. It was destroyed internally okay Catch and kill There have been repeated and sophisticated manipulation some ballot boxes disappeared caucus leaders fudged and some numbers Anyway, what's up chicho? I just finished my youtube feed. Nice good stuff. Dante doing good, brother. We're ending the stream Whoo God that one's over Sort of I don't like being so harsh mad Really, but this stuff gets my goat I don't know. What's it called goat going or whatever it is. One of the reasons is because The way us elections are run and the illusion delusion that people have of What democracy means But more so what's going to happen this week with juliana sange and wiki leaks, right? We're watching A human being be crucified. I mean we're watching in slow motion for the last eight years nine years, right? If that doesn't get you pissed, I don't know what does right I think this is disingenuous to say russia was not a bad actor in the 2000s It's what it what a post-apocalypse say negligible negligible You can't have a viable third party in the u.s. The voting system doesn't allow it Dante I mentioned this before my hope for the 2020 elections is The republicans get splintered the democrats get splintered you end up with four parties in the united states after 2020 That that would be ideal aside from that trump's in already like The circus of the democrats What the They tried but had little leverage Very little I love our discussions by the way gang we disagree on Some things we agree on some things But we're having a discussion and you know Just open communication uncensored That's what we need in this world I think the trial could go on for sometimes The longer the better Birdie here the longer the better The system encourages two major parties, but which two are in power has flipped historically Right now there's only one party is the corporate party in the united states and they're both democrat and republican It never works a winner takes all System demands a two-party system I hope it's a four-party system at least we see that in the next decade I'm socially conservators, but economically liberal I need a party to cater to my specific needs Join the Libertarians, right? You need voting reform to do that Dante whatever it takes whatever it takes voting reform grass roots movements So one thing that can happen in the united states, which I think is phenomenal Is local communities can shut down the federal government, right? They can say no we don't want This these laws to come into play in our state, right? Look at what's happening with legalization of cannabis The federal government was not protest You know how many people I talked to especially in bc because the before even canada legalized cannabis, right? Like 10 years ago, we're talking about this and a lot of people saying oh chicho The united states will never legalize cannabis. I go look man The federal government is going to take a long long long time But the states are going to legalize, right? So we in canada need to legalize before the united states legalizes that way We're headed a game in terms of the economics of legalization, right? Unfortunately in canada we had Neoconservative harper government and power And the damage that the neoconservative harper government did to canada was unprecedented It's going to take 30 40 50 years to undo and they they prevented canada from being On the forefront on one of the biggest industries in the world, right that That's taking place right now. It's going to play out for the next few decades, right? They prevented legalization of cannabis in canada Their only reason they did that was because of ideology, right? However in the united states the states were able to legalize Without the Go ahead of the federal government and they actually challenged the federal government and they've done it in a way, right? Where the federal government really can't do shit right now, right? So The united states structure is brilliant. Really the united states the way it's set up To give freedom of speech freedom to to protect yourself Freedom to do calm all this stuff is legit, right? You just have to make sure those laws Are in place for people to live their lives the way they They can right or they're allowed to Okay, so there's a lot that can be done. There's a lot that can be done The parliamentary system with the ranked choice voting would be ideal, I think To a certain degree we try to get that into canada and be seen didn't happen In france, you'll be on the right side d'arthokie Campaign finance and election reform could shift things in a more democratic election. Yeah, I agree. Yes, agreed You have armenian roots chicho. Yep, d'arthokie How do elections work there? Do you know not too much? I know there's a Power grab taking place right now power plague taking place. I know a little bit The names i'm not familiar with but I have my own idea of what's taking place in armenia We'll see where it goes. Are there a majority prayer there? I can't remember There was for a while and now the power is shifting again Well, turkey still occupies part of the historic armenia. Turkey is a failed democracy largely subverted by armenia Turkey is not looking good Yep It's la republicana's d'arthokie Okay gang, let's call the stream keep your eyes on what's taking place in In the uk this week and the next few weeks coming up with julien assange the trial begins tomorrow Well, probably within the next 12 hours in the uk because they're eight hours ahead So it begins on monday Julien assange is doing court. We'll see how it plays out Hopefully they walk in judge says case dismissed julien walks out gets on a plane goes to australia, right? And it's free. I doubt it. That can happen though. Okay We'll see how it plays out. We'll keep our eyes on it and we'll do More of the stuff as uh events unfold. Okay. Thank you very much for the discussion gang Thank you very much for the conversation And for the disagreements You know, I think I think we all have a little a little bit of truth a little bit of foul Falsehoods a little bit of bias in us me for sure, right and hopefully together we can Come to a compromise to figure out how our society should function, right? Thank you very much for the conversations post poplip spider-man. Thank you for taking care of business. Dante Thank you for dropping by. Thank you for the subs. Thank you for the Follows everyone. Okay. Thanks for the stranger. My pleasure gang. My pleasure We'll do string later this week. Bye everyone