 This abortion reaction was celebrated World Down Syndrome Day on Monday, March 21st, like we do everywhere. Persons with Down Syndrome. Their parents, friends, and other station, supporting this unique, but common syndrome, came out to create awareness about the most common mutation known to mankind. Down Syndrome is a condition in which a baby is born with an extra chromosome, number 21. The extra chromosome is associated with delays in the child's mental and physical development, as well as an increased risk of health problems. The physical features and medical problems linked to Down Syndrome can vary widely from child to child. While some kids need a lot of medical attention, others need healthy lives. Down Syndrome, also called time of day syndrome, happens by chance. It can't be prevented, and it isn't caused by everything a parent did or didn't do. Unfortunately, health problems can be managed well, especially when found early, and many resources are available to help kids and their families. In most cases of Down Syndrome, the child gets an extra chromosome 21 from a total of 47 chromosomes, instead of the regular 46. Really, the extra chromosome 21 attaches to another chromosome. This extra genetic material causes the physical features and developmental delays in people with Down Syndrome. One in every 800 births is a child with Down Syndrome. That is how common it is. Last time I heard over 5.6 million people in the world live with Down Syndrome. While people living with Down Syndrome have different challenges, they can live a world meaningful life with their supported and loved. However, in the pursuit to learn more about this syndrome, it was discovered that unborn babies who have Down Syndrome have a ticker back neck than others who do not. Thus, you can tell whether or not the baby will be born with this ability or not. People on the medical profession began to advise mothers on the option of aborting these babies. The only result is that in some countries in the world, they have recorded close to 100 percent abortion of these babies. Accordingly, most of babies with autism are not aborted because autism cannot be detected in the womb. If it can, will that mean we will begin to give mothers the option to? One thing when we say abortion is not the option. To celebrate this down syndrome day, the Government of West Virginia in the United States signed a law that grants abortion of babies with Down Syndrome. If medical personnel are to preserve life, what moral justification then do they have to support the genocide of babies with Down Syndrome? Why do we make ourselves God-over-luck? Why having a child with Down Syndrome may be challenging? Having a child is challenging and that does not stop from procreating. So, is aborting babies with Down Syndrome the option? Please, share your thoughts. I have loads, but I'll let the gents speak first. Well, I just have one question. Who decides if a child should be aborted or not? I mean, if a mother wants to keep her child, who gives them the doctors or the government the right? So, it's not as simple as that. It really depends where you are to begin with, right? Are you in Nigeria, are you in the UK, are you in the US? Because each country has its own methodology for this, right? What do you have to do about that, Iceland? Iceland. What do you have to do about Iceland? Yes, let's talk about Denmark and Iceland. The fact that they basically eradicate it through genetic engineering, being able to identify it very early in the pregnancy, and a national campaign to screen it out. So, they purposefully went to screen it out. So, now it's very rare for you to see someone in Down Syndrome. You won't see any child with Down Syndrome. You'll see mostly adults with Down Syndrome now because they weren't screened out in time. It wasn't developed then. So, how I know about this, there was a BBC documentary about five, six years ago that was brilliant, and it kind of looked at that. There was a comedian that she did the documentary, and she kind of went into detail with it. It was really, really good. So, there's countries like that. You have less stricter countries also like the UK. So, if I tell you about my experience, when I was going for my tests while pregnant, I'm knowing my age. Once you're 35, you're classified as a geriatric mother or geriatric pregnancy, which I find hilarious. But they really, really want you to do the normally test, which is usually done around the 20-week mark. And so, every time I would come in, they would be asking me to do the anomaly test, and I would tell them, I don't want to do the anomaly test, and I'll have to keep repeating myself because they'll say, but you know with your age, you're at risk for issues with the fetus, and I understand that. But we're doing the scans. We're doing our blood work and the urine work and stuff. At the end of the day, whatever child I have is what God says I should have, and that was my attitude. But at some point, it became really overwhelming and extremely irritating, and I had to tell them to put in my file, in my note, not to ask me again. And I had to be extremely firm about that because how they're taught is that, if you're a certain age, that's a check mark. Then if I had done the anomaly test and they did find Down syndrome, then the next conversation is pushing you to terminate. That is how it works. They're not telling you, well, you know, termination is an option, but you know, there are families, you know, people with Down syndrome can do this. They're just pointing out the worst picture ever to you. And it's unfortunate. Now, whilst I believe it's a woman's right to choose, at the end of the day, even though I am not for abortion, but I do believe that it's a woman's right to choose, you need to be able to make that decision with rounded information, with the truth, not with just one sign. You know, there needs to be a more of a conversation. You know, I know I'm dominating this, guys. No, no, take the floor. Take the floor. Take the floor. And I hold the medical community responsible for this. You know, people that educate doctors, nurses, I hold them responsible. People that create the literature, I hold them responsible. Because Down syndrome is like a tiny little portion in a mobile, a paragraph, in a book, and that's it. There's no going deep. And even you don't even need to go how deep. They just go a little deep. You don't have to spend the whole year studying about Down syndrome. It's basic. What can they do? What are the issues they have? Actually, with the technology we have, when a medical student is studying, YouTube is there. Put links to videos to show how people live, the actual lived experience of parents, of the people with Down syndrome themselves. Because that will tell you in real life what is going on. The fact that my child had a heart surgery, that's an issue. But that my child is starting to read, is athletic, is intelligent, is lovely. That's another story. So the conversation needs to diversify. And I hold the medical community responsible, to be honest. Well, Edumai, I'm going to ask you something. You know, if you look at the issue of dyscyclicia anemia or something, I remember one time I was, they said that when the woman is pregnant and they discover that the baby is going to be a syclar, they're also going to terminate it. So how can you correlate both? I'm not going to stand for any side. Because like you said, everybody should decide but you should make informed decisions. Not that you'll be looking at it from one side. You decided that you want your baby and you're happy, your baby is great and she's doing well and she will achieve more. While some other women say, no, I can't deal with this. So it's like, let it be that they have the old information on their hand and make the decision. So what do you think about this issue? Are you good? Because in Nigerian situation, we have issue of religion and cultural belief to deal with. You know, religiously speaking, we don't support abortion. It's called maybe cultural. So how do you manage the situation? How do we reconcile both situations? Thank you, Liza. Absolutely brilliant question. Listen to everything that Tenia said. My seven mistakes have been to the UK and at every last one, they're asking me, oh, I'm interpreting the team, I don't see them as pregnant. And I'm like, how do I do that? His guy is six. He's a beautiful, lovely boy. I don't need all of my heart. How is that possible? Remember, I said in my right talk that they don't act like children with autism. I've had intense conversations with medical doctors in the UK on this matter. And I kept asking them, okay, fine. People with autism, why don't you have autism? Because they can't detect it in the room. They can't detect it in the pictures when they're still developing. Okay, so let me ask you a question then. If you can discover autism while the children are still pregnant, are you going to tell us to start aborting your babies too? I can say probably. Probably. Start aborting your children. Yep. I really believe that. So if every baby goes out and thinks that you're going to abort the baby, is that what you're telling me? So where's the stop button basically? If you start, if you start, nothing will be out of choice. To what extent? Genetic modification. Genetic engineering. Because it's supposed to be a online source. It's supposed to be with us. It's supposed to be the most common mutation more in every 800 babies. Imagine. So it's very common. It's supposed to be 5.6 million of them. Are you going to a clinic and you're going to be treated about 100% more because they find the cure. Because they're... I don't know. Bunting job. Just literally. I think for the sake of sanity and progressive world, all stakeholders, when I mean stakeholders, talking of scientists, medical personnel, medical scientists and the government should come together and see how they can support people that have these, mothers that have these challenges at birth and then after birth, how they can support these babies to grow to become useful persons in the world. So it feeds right into my segment exactly what I was talking about as well. You know, it's about perception. So if people were perceiving it as more positive light, we would have less issues with aborting children with abnormal mass. It becomes the norm, basically. A person with normal life. Exactly. Exactly. So it feeds. And, Alaymi and Elijah, you picked up on the religious aspect. I also hold religious institutions accountable with this. Because, yes, it's right to tell people, abortion should not be the option, in my instances where we would agree maybe abortion should be considered. But generally, abortion is not the option. But yet, in your churches, you're saying that this child is an abomination. You're saying that the child should fast. You're saying that the mother should didn't do this, that maybe she slept with the devil during her pregnancy or something. So there's all this madness that's going on. All the pastors selling, I told you recently, I told someone recently, or something that happened to me in January, where a pastor told me he could eradicate the Down syndrome from my daughter. Whoa. And I said to him, and the funny thing, he didn't say it's out of spite or wickedness. He generally was trying to be nice. And I said to him, why would I remove my blessing? And he had no response from me. I said, why would I remove my blessing? So, who gives them the right to say something like that? Yes, exactly. Just because your worship was set in quarters. It was religious without a proper understanding. All right. Definitely we will keep having this conversation. We will keep advocating. Up next is Abdo. Stay with us.