 Hey, good morning, Terry. It's a Sunday morning. Thank you for taking the time. I'm with Terry Singh Extremely excited to have him help us do the first interviews of the speakers This is for the open data science conference which is coming to India for the first time and we are super excited that Terry and a group of his Researchers will be joining us at the conference Thank you so much, Terry for accepting our invite to come to the conference. Thank you for having me Norish. Thank you very much Terry, could you please tell us what got you interested into data science in AI? So great question. I think as a kid I was always very interested in in how the world around us is sort of you know defined and how things look very inquisitive not just about earth, but also universe and and space So, you know as a kid I used to Already, you know picked up early math And and couple of other friends from a dad coming from various countries around the world You know from Russia from Israel many other countries. I Got pretty interesting math books at an early age Fast-forward another 30 years or something Today you see the same things are being applied in in AI or About in the form of deep learning or machine learning and it's possible with data So as you know, I you know galea Galileo said a long time ago The nature of book is written in mathematical symbols And I think we are beginning to see those symbols and all these equations So I think it's fascinating and for me. It's just like being in you know, the Lego and playing with it Absolutely, I think there is a lot of excitement about the the scale at which we have data and the using AI machine learning and others Basically make sense out of that data While there is a lot of excitement I also personally feel there are still quite a few challenges both on an individual level as a data scientist and as a Industry in terms of data science adoption. Could you please share some of your thoughts on that? Yeah, so I think there's there are a lot of challenges both an individual and on on more market Adoption level whether it is in the market itself or by enterprises I think my advice is or at least in terms of challenges that people should move beyond these you know tests and dummy data sets that are available and And also move beyond and take the step higher to move from the online MOOCs Into doings and trying to solve a practical problem Eventually, it is the application of AI the practical application of AI in your local community Whether it's medical industry or in retail industry or in public service You should find a way to solve that problem at an individual and at The group level or enterprise level. You don't do that that you will keep stuck in key. You'll keep getting stuck in Trying to solve, you know problems which people have already solved which is you know, actually it's a no-brainer So I would say, you know move we need to you know get above this job problem and try to solve practical AI Problems That's a that's a really good advice Terry. I think you know Taking and solving real-world problems Even if it's a small-scale problems is is important as a way to move forward and I think that's that's that's pretty cool I Think you're so you'll be traveling You know, you're you're traveling across many cities before Coming through the conference in India, but you would be traveling from Amsterdam all the way to Bangalore So what got you interested in participating in this conference? Great question. I think you know pretty simple, you know what you're doing nourish with ODSE Which is a huge sort of internationally known a community of open data science Conferences you're bringing it to India, which is great I have been a professor for almost two years with the data science community across very different regions in India from North India South India various regions and it was just not happening So my first excitement was obviously that wow, this is happening So I have to be there, you know to enable and empower my colleagues and friends and peers in India and To I was very much impressed with the way, you know Your value systems and our value systems from deep half as well how they were aligned and that is very important for us because we really make sure that You know, you know said alone that we have operational sort of you know cost that we need to run our companies We do believe that we need to democratize it We need to bring it to students and we need to find a balance to to make it run to to make it useful for everybody So in a bit all these these both two things came together and we are like super excited to be there Awesome awesome And I completely agree right when we first spoke the value system seemed to align really well And I was really excited that people do Have similar thought process and you know what we are trying to do people can see the value in it So very excited to have you partner with us on this conference and really looking forward Now talking about the conference itself you have Some very interesting things that you're doing at the conference you have 90-minute tutorial where you're going to be talking about your deep Residency program and then you also have a full-day workshop where you're going to be talking about neural networks And you'll be going to deep dive into them Can you can you give us a little bit of an early glimpse to what we expect in these two sessions? absolutely, so I think You know the the most important thing is that I can just jump into you know Share a screen a little bit so you can see what the real practicality of it is So this is we are creating a notebook in which we're trying to sort of you know how to help Developers and enthusiasts from you know cnn into capsule networks the the theory which we are really super excited about And so this is a full-day program in which we are going to talk about How convolution neural networks are great and how capsule Capsule networks are trying to improve upon convolution neural network. We'll talk about our research in detail in our In a workshop And and and also potentially help you play with this activation function, which is amazing written by Narendra Pupwarden Who is a researcher? Eshwari is writing up currently is already way ahead creating this notebook So you're seeing an older version We're going to talk about matrix capsules which is written is continuously continuously being explored by Huadang Leao And I will also be talking about she mays are you know neuroscience researchers work on on deep learning So this is a full-day program in which we'll play with this code and we're going to have a lot of fun In the 90 minute session, I will talk about how deep remote residency program works How we as a team combine our insights and ideas and constantly continue to challenge each other to work And is that a potential for you as a researcher? Do you want to be part of this revolution? Do you want to know how we work? I'm very happy to have this conversation. So these are the two things we'll be doing And this is a little bit of a sneak peek on on the notebook, but I mean again, you'll see more action coming up Great. Thank you for giving us a glimpse of this I know people are super excited about having you here and there is a lot of buzz We also greatly appreciate that you have graciously accepted to extend the 75 discount to the students as a way to help The student community to come in and participate in your workshop So it is it is really good You know a way to support that community and thank you for agreeing to do that You know again, we talk about the value system aligning really well here Absolutely. I think this is great. One last thing since you know just quickly showing You know, I think it's very important to bring the researchers and students Into this, you know, uh, for example, you know, just giving you know the observing the nature around yourself The aria function is all about trying to you know understand how the growth function from botanical perspective how trees grow So we have you know kind of taken this and our researcher also proved that it's uh, you know superior than the activation function that exists So I hope you know getting young people involved You know, we want to provide distance with students because as you and I in the same principles principles we We follow That people should be able to have access to it If you are uh, you know in a company convince your boss to be there because odsc in india is i'm sure It's happening now, but it's definitely going to be at a much larger scale going forward We are very very happy to collaborate with you and it's all about you know You know bringing deep learning into the most practical and applicable sense to the industry So that's the last thing I wanted to say Um, and finally very very happy and excited to meet you people there. Thank you so much nourish once again for inviting us All right. Thank you. You have a great day daddy. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye nourish