 Hi I'm Jim from DMM and we're here with Ellis Brigham. We come up to the factory in Clamberris to see how the equipment actually gets manufactured. We've sort of gone out to a couple of different crags and are using the kit in real life scenarios so we've been going through some of the sort of key product features of dragon cams, going through placements of walnut sets and torque nuts and alloy offsets as well and also some of the differences between some of the carabiners as well so the difference between hook nose wire gates for instance and clean nose wire gates. They've seen them getting manufactured in real life what the differences are from a manufacturing point of view and then what the differences are in an end-use point of view as well.