 2018 Meeting Certification of Compliance in the Open Meeting Law. The ingenious coast on the 12th of January at 2.30 p.m. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Roll call. I may not try to back off. Approval of the December 19, 2017 journal. Surveys are at it. Please join me. I'd like to make a motion to approve the journal. Thank you. Surveys are at it. Surveys are with all. Second. Thank you. Surveys are with all. Any discussion? Any discussion? Is that it? Or NAPA? Yes or no? The motion is for unanimous thought. Thank you. Presentations? You have Gary Miller, Chancellor of UW Green Day. Come up front please. Discussing the status of the UW. UW Green Day consolidation. Chancellor, how are you with technology? No. I think you're doing great. I'm pretty impressed. I'm not sure this would work in a faculty suit. Thank you. It's a delight to be here. Thank you for inviting us to come up and visit with you. A little bit this afternoon, this evening. We are very excited in Green Bay about the consolidation of the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay-Shabuigan, Marinette, and Maddox. I think, and I wanted to tell you a little bit about our vision for this and then tell you about our process briefly and let you, I don't know if there's any questions, but if there are, we certainly want you to ask them if not to get with us later. We do have our Shabuigan colleagues back here, Jackie and Dan, who you know. And I will just say they have been fantastic colleagues. We're all in the UW system trying to make something different work. We've been on the Shabuigan campus a couple of times. Thank you both, Dan, for coming. Tony Warner is back here with me. He's Vice Chancellor for University Advancement and liaison to the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay Foundation. He's with us here. He'll be working with the Shabuigan Foundation and their foundations at the other two colleges as well. And then Ben Jonio is here, who's the Chief of Staff of the Chancellor's Office, fresh from the Representative Mako's staff, so we're glad to have them with us today. Thank you. We really think this is a historical opportunity to reimagine higher education, workforce development, economic development in this region. We just think about it. We have a pretty interesting footprint here. The University of Wisconsin-Green Bay with Shabuigan, Manitowoc, the Green Bay campus, and on up to Marinette. It includes about 14 counties. If you take out the population of the bigger areas of Milwaukee and Madison, it includes about 25% of the population of the state of Wisconsin. It sits on the largest freshwater ecosystem in the world. It includes several very interesting, exciting tourist areas, including Shabuigan and then Door County and up in Marinette area. And of course it's Guy Green Bay, which is an internationally branded city with an NFL team. It's a very, very unique opportunity. And we're thinking about this university as a single university with four campuses, a mother campus and a branch campus. In fact, that's the way the system has approached the Higher Learning Commission to accredit these institutions. In that capacity, we would work toward a goal, and this will take a while. You can't do this right off the bat. To make sure that anybody who walks in the door of this university, wherever that is, Shabuigan, North, Manitowoc, Marinette, and Green Bay, has access to all of the Associates, Bachelors, Masters, and we have one doctoral degree at UW-Green Bay. So we expect our goal will be to expand educational opportunities. UW-Green Bay is an access-oriented institution, so that philosophy fits in very well with what's happening here at Shabuigan. And in that regard, the colleges actually bring us a good bit of expertise we don't have for helping students of all ages in all circumstances in life, get through and get a degree. We expect there to be a single faculty. So students in this university have access to that faculty and all the services that you would expect a university student to have. In fact, by accrediting rules, we have to extend those out to universities. We do want to keep the identity of these campuses intact. It's very important that we have the Shabuigan name in this part of this campus. We want to do that because there's a very strong brand identity here and because we can leverage that. We will work with the foundations. Those foundations that are in attack right now are very excited about continuing their efforts to work with us. One of the most exciting things about this for us is that we have a different relationship with three county governments. And we have a very close relationship with the Brown County government, but it's different than this one since you folks own the facilities. We have a lot to say about how they develop. And that's an advantage to us. We're very, very excited in particular about Shabuigan. The engineering facilities are very important to us. In four weeks, we'll go to the Board of Regents with a proposal to expand our engineering programs at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay to add mechanical engineering to establish a school of engineering. We expect that to pass. We have raised about $8 million toward that, including a naming gift for the School of Engineering. So the new university that includes the Shabuigan campus will have engineering. And we have already started discussions with Platteville about how to continue their work here and expand on it throughout this region so that we can offer engineering degrees that are not here. We have really strong health sciences. We hope to expand those. We have a great business school. We hope to expand that. We have a very close relationship with the Green Bay Packers. We are in fact going into business with them. On the Title Town Tech project, we will be funding an entrepreneur residence at that facility and a few other parts of the management of that facility. And that's something that we've worked on for a long time. So we believe that this is an opportunity for all of us. We have a very optimistic spirit about it and attitude about it. And we are ready to overcome whatever challenges that we face, and there will be some, of course, as we work through this over the next couple of years. So we expect the main handover to come 1st of July. And then there will be some things that have to be handed over after that. One of the concerns we have that we're working on really hard is that you'll remember on the last reorganization of the colleges, a live student support was withdrawn to the central organization. And we really need to get that back out to the campus because it's very important to have that there for those students. We've toured the facilities at Cheboy and we've been there before. We're very familiar with these universities because we have students that come from here all the time. So to get this all done, we've set up a process that involves all four campuses. It's run by, there's a university system process that we articulate with, but just for this region, we have a person on our campus who heads this up. He has people from all campuses. It's got a steering committee and multiple work groups. And we are working through all of the functions that we have to finance, student aid, all this stuff we have to work through to get to a single university. And that's going on while Tony and Ben and the rest of us are meeting with county boards and having meetings with members of the community to enlist their support, get their ideas and listen to their vision for what this new university will be. We call this Project Coastal. All these universities are on this coast, somehow, on this freshwater ecosystem that we happen to be close to. And it's gone pretty well. So I hope you will agree that this is not an opportunity and it's good to see you again, Mr. Chair. Good to see you. Yeah, and we really appreciate the enthusiasm of Adam and Chair. And we hope that we'll get to talk to many of you over the coming months and weeks and years as we work through this. That's a short summary of what we're doing. Thank you for coming. I'm sure. Did Annie put a question for the Chancellor? No, there's a lot more to come. We rolled out. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Public addresses. We have none. Letters, communications and announcements. We also have none. How many administrators are there? None? None. There is one. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My 99-year-old grandmother used to say, every day is a good day. And as we were going through this tonight, I'm sure there was a little angst in the room, but we'll get through this and working together pretty soon. This will become very smooth just as our old system was. But I want to thank Chris Lewinsky and Elaine and the IT staff and everyone involved for the work on developing this and the time that it's going to take to make it happen. So I appreciate that. Chancellor Miller identified some of his guests, and I was going to do the same. So Gary, I just want to say thank you for taking the time to be here. As you know, the roads were good and our highway department is a big reason for that. I'm glad that you and Tony and Ben made it here. Richard, Richard Bulge is here from Bank First, and he is the president of the foundation. So, Rich, we welcome you. Nice to have you with us this evening. Of course, we know Jackie and Dan. They continue to do tremendous work, and we appreciate the strong rapport and relationship we've established with him. And then also, I see the LTC president has joined us this evening, Paul Carlson's here. So, Paul, thank you for joining us as well. Appreciate that. Three key topics. First, a brief update on the new transportation complex. And then, in light of our guests, and in light of the time of year, a brief state of the county and some of our accomplishments of the past year. But first, the transportation complex. So if we could get that teed up. As you know, every month, we have been striving to provide you with a brief update to set the stage, particularly for our guests. This is a $23.8 million project. So this is no small project that the county board has authorized. It's been in play for a couple of years. Purchased the property back in 2015, and we're consolidating three facilities into one. So I was out there last week, because I think as many folks are aware. Next slide, please. What a difference a leak makes. We had no snow on the ground when I was out there. What a beautiful facility is about 80% complete. And Brian Olson's here, I see, from the transportation department. And Brian is really the right-hand man to Greg Chanel, and works closely with Jim Tobias and others. And just has done a tremendous job of the oversight and work on this. As I said, about 80% complete, and the staff and equipment has now been moved in from Plymouth and from Elkhart. So we have taken occupancy of the building. Work continues, most of it's inside, and we're hoping to be able to move the rest of the staff in on April. So that's an outside shot. Next slide, please. Fuel area, as you can see, some of the trim is going up around the building. Again, remarkable to see that picture compared to how things look today. Next slide. Outdoor cold storage building that last time you saw it didn't have the walls up. We still need to get the roof on it, but that's in play. Next slide. Inside, we're starting to see the walls go up. So where the staff, many of the staff are going to have their offices. Next slide, as well as the entrance to the building, the greeting area, where the receptionist is going to be. So I know some of you have toured this a late, but the walls are starting to go up and take shape. Next slide, please. This one obviously is self-explanatory. I'm sure everyone knows exactly what that is. I had to ask Grave myself that. Is the pumping system for the hot water heat that goes in the in-floor facility? So that's what keeps all the water going through it. It's a very efficient way to heat the building. Next slide. As I said, the equipment is in the building. We've got a number of our plows in play as well as, next slide, bigger equipment for whether it's moving earth or also getting out there whether it's shoulder work or using them occasionally for scraping. But we are taking access to the building. Next slide. This is the training center, lunch room, emergency operations center. So a multi-use building. Furniture has arrived. Next slide. And here are some really good people that have been working hard for quite some time. You see Jim Tobias, their building services director. I just mentioned Ryan, Grave Schnell. That's Bernie Romer. And those are two employees from the furniture company. So that's it. Things are continuing to look good, largely on time and under budget. All right. With that, and this may be more interesting to some of our guests than some of our county board supervisors because most of you have a pretty good handle on things, but that slide we can put down for now. That one you can keep up if you want. Sheboyton County government, state of the county, how did our last year go? In a couple of months, we'll be closing the books for financials, although I can tell you from the finance committee meeting just last week that we're looking good financially. Once again, departments have done a good job working with budget parameters. We're expecting to have a modest but positive variance. But to set the stage for everyone, we have 825 employees here working in 19 departments administering over 200 programs and services. Far more complex than UW Green Bay, let me tell you. There's a lot going on here. And the big four that we'd like to finally refer to are our Health and Human Services Department at $34 million department, the Sheriff's Department or law enforcement. That's a $24 million operation. Our Transportation Department, which includes highways and our airport. That's a $19 million operation. And then our Rocky Hill Health Care Center, which is a $13 million operation. That comprises nearly two-thirds of our budget. Those four departments alone. Why is it so interesting to work for county board, for county government? Because in addition to those four departments, we have building services, information systems, finance, human resources, planning and resources, a treasurer, a county clerk, a register of deeds, a medical examiner, a corporation council, clerk of courts, district attorney, family court commissioner, the airport UW extension, and veteran services. If you're a board, you're in the raw organization. There is so much going on in county government, all those opportunities for improvement, and all those challenges. We are the eighth largest employer, we better not, behind Kohler, being us manufacturing, the Sheboygan Area School District, NEMACS, our gentle Aurora, and Johnsonville Sausage. And we aren't seeking to be number one. In fact, our staffing, which I'll touch on in a minute, has gone down considerably over the last decade. Obviously change is inevitable. It's always happening. We either ride these waves of change, or we get buried underneath them. And if you're part of the county board or part of this organization, you recognize that the state partnership is really important. And it's been a partnership that's had ups and downs and ebbs and flows over the years. As the right arm of state government, we administer predominantly state programs and services. At times the state's been a tremendous partner. And at other times, it's been a little frustrating. State mandated programs, which most people in the public don't necessarily care about. They just want their services delivered efficiently and effectively. But the state mandated programs that were responsible for administering the state and does not provide adequate funds to do so. So it puts increasing pressure on the property tax levy. Yet at the same time, we have one size fits all property tax levy caps in place. That makes it challenging. We have state government that presently, from time to time, is usurping local control. And our precom committee and other committees have felt that of late. And certainly doesn't support local decision making. Yet, our demands for services going up or down, they are going up. Helping people with mental illness, economic support, public health, those addicted to drugs and alcohol, child abuse and neglect, elder services, the need for law enforcement, the need to have a detention center, the need to have alternatives to incarceration, helping victims of domestic violence, abuse, sexual assaults, providing natural resource protection and enhancement, workforce development, maintaining our transportation system. Demands for services going down. Incredible pressures that we all collectively work with and strive to do the best we can with the resources we have and balance that with the demands of the public to hold the line on property taxes or tax increases, period. And in some way, somehow, year after year, thanks to effective leadership, excellent collaboration, we find a way to get the job done. Year after year, this county board and our coworkers find a way to get the job done. Unlike the federal government, we balance our budget every year. We're close and accountable to our constituents. We have streamlined, prioritized, prioritized and consolidated numerous programs and services. The county board yourselves took the leadership to reduce your numbers and consolidate the number of committees that you work with. Our table of organization, I mentioned it earlier, over the last decade, we've reduced our staff by nearly 40%. Our payroll costs are less today than they were 10 years ago. In 2007, we had 1,349 employees. Today, we have closer to 825. We're tightening our belt. We're always striving to gain efficiencies and we have certainly downsized or right-sized. We share services and collaborate with other units of government in the private sector, our purchasing agent. We share with the city of Sheboygan. We provide combined emergency dispatch. We support our Sheboygan County Economic Development Corporation. Other municipalities for their transportation needs. We work collaboratively with the hospitals, non-profit organizations, with people struggling with mental health issues or to help children and family in need. We recently purchased Amsterdam Dunes, which I'm very proud of. Beautiful area to preserve for future generations and we're establishing a wetland mitigation bank, which we need for economic development and expanding roads and airports. Together, we collaborate, we deliver. So every now and then when I'm at the YMCA trying to work off years and years of weight that I shouldn't have, or out and about at the store, whatever it might be, we often get the question, don't we, well, what's new? What's new at UW Green Bay or UW Sheboygan or county government? You know when you get that question, what's new? You almost hesitate to, you already start to respond with something like that. What's new? There is so much going on that most of your family members and constituents they don't have any idea. I mean, you are involved in so much. We are involved in so much. So next time you're asked what's new, here are 12, what I consider some of the most impressive, collaborative accomplishments of the past year and I'll strive to go through them quickly. Rocky No Health Care Center recently had a state survey and received the highest possible overall rating of five stars. Best survey we can get. Pretty dogged on important when you're providing care to residents and the elderly that are relying on you for those services, outstanding results. Chris Lewinsky and his team, you got a feel for it tonight, updating our own county board voting system, which takes time. In addition to that, Chris and his team have been updating VoIP and Gmail, which many of us are getting a feel for this week as well. And I've kind of set the stage or the cutoff that if you're 50-year-older, it's not that much fun. And if you're a millennial or younger than that, piece of cake. And so we're working through that. But I want to thank Chris and his staff and Elaine and everyone who helps us work through those technological advancements. They do a nice job and we need to be patient, and we have to remember that every day is a good day. Pennsylvania Avenue property sale. I was so pleased that the county board supported getting rid of a parking lot that had less than 20% usage, eliminating three dilapidated homes and selling that property for economic development. That's a play. And Aaron Brunt obviously took a key lead role with that. Information technology. A disaster recovery system. A lot of people can care less about that until there's a fire in the courthouse or some type of emergency, and all of a sudden 19 departments don't have the ability to access data or information. Imagine the standstill that would put the county and most businesses today. And again, Chris and his team established a disaster recovery data center that now provides for backup of our operations in case that ever happens. An employee engagement survey, we took a risk. We asked our employees what they thought. Not just one or two, but all of them sent the survey to all of our employees and said, what do you think? How can we improve our organization? What's your level engagement? How can your supervisor improve? How can we collectively improve? And over 500 employees participated. We had a county-wide all-employee meeting a couple of months ago. A lot of folks who were involved including HR and pulling that together did a nice job. And though without question there's always room for improvement and in some cases we may have received some sobering feedback on how we can improve our organization. The consultant involves that of all the public organizations they ever did an engagement survey like this. We had the strongest or highest level of positive feedback. Not bad. And they didn't do just two per. They did a couple dozen. So it was good to see that. 31 miles of road work completed. We achieved our goal of doing over 30 miles a year all this discussion at the state level about our transportation infrastructure and how we're going to maintain it and prove it, pay for it. Can kits kick down the road? Continues to happen. Yet the county board looked at the problem worked with their team to develop a plan and by implementing the 1.5% county sales tax we now have established a sustainable revenue source to help maintain a safe and reliable transportation system fiscally responsible, reduced borrowing, reduced debt service, provide direct property tax relief and share as the first county in the state some of the revenue with the other 28 municipalities for their own transportation work. Huge accomplishment. The district attorney and health and human services department pulled together thanks to additional resources provided by the county board to help address the problem of our foster care caseload. It's doubled since 2010 due to opioid abuse and other issues, concerns. And now the health and human services department and the district attorney's office are tackling that caseload providing long-awaited permanence for children opening the door to adoption. Pretty important work. Courthouse security. Surveyed all of our employees I think back in 2016 and 90% responded they wanted a secured entrance. Chairman Wagner, Supervisor Zigglebauer right now are participating in the Courthouse Security Committee has about 20 participants representing 10 departments with a plan for implementation this summer to enhance the entrance. The steps, cameras, equipment and have law enforcement personnel there for a secured courthouse and many counties our size have already done. We're going to get it done this summer. Jim DeVist again and others have been a real support of that. Emergency medical dispatch training. You know we go through the combined dispatch and all the good work that went into that by Christy DeBlay and our sheriff's staff Inspector Bill Brock-Bauer and then Inspector Jim Rousseau. And more recently the sheriff's department just partnered with Aurora to launch emergency medical dispatching. The key is to respond as quickly as possible to help people in need. Now our staff are trained to provide emergency medical dispatching so these potentially life-saving instructions they can immediately give guidance and help and it's already saved lives. It's remarkable. Opioid detox services established. Chairman Wagner, this was one of the key initiatives when he was elected by you to be our chairman. He wanted to see us do more here and of course Tom Eggebrecht and the Health and Human Services Committee were all over this but some really good work has been done to establish a comprehensive and collaborative approach to contacting opioids, provide treatment, reduce deaths, save lives, keep families together and in addition to that our Drug and Alcohol Court and Veterans Court is making a difference as well. In fact, if you ever get a chance and I know I've touched on that before attend one of the graduation ceremonies. Listen to one of the graduates and how the resources that came to their change their life. Save their life. Reunite them with their children. It is very gratifying and certainly speaks well to the support of the county board and our staff. The last two. Physically, your track record's second to none. Second to none. Healthy bond rating, healthy reserves, modest property tax-level increases or decreases. We've really held the line for the last decade and that's going to get more and more difficult going forward as we continue to reduce and consolidate and streamline at some point. It's going to get more and more challenging but your track record has been second to none. And then lastly, I think probably the number one what's new or what was just a key accomplishment last year was the transportation complex. To consolidate three facilities into one to make the decision to purchase the property for a little over $500,000 to build a facility for about $23.3 million. That's a big decision and it reflects very well in the county board and will position our community for success for a long time. Charles Sweet is here I see this evening. I know he's working with stakeholders at the airport about a proposed airport terminal that's being explored. We're also exploring putting in a customs facility and there you have what's new in Sheboygan County. If you remember one or two of those you can certainly have a good discussion with a constituent or a family member but I'd just like to end by saying thank you. You don't hear it that often. Fortunately the pays were really good. Thank you for the work you do. Thank you for being so dedicated. I look at folks like Roger Disturdi and Bill Gehrig who were on the executive committee when I was hired nearly 20 years ago. This is a very dedicated company board who cares about this community and has a track record of helping make good things happen. We care about one another. We treat one another with respect. We strive to work in a collaborative manner to problems and I thank you for that. We have an excellent staff here and I feel very fortunate and I think we all should take pride in being part of Sheboygan County Governor. Thank you Mr. Chair. As soon as you're ready do you have a question? Yes. Will the board be getting an update on the sales tax that was implemented in 2017 and the new loan? Use your light bay. Will the board be getting an update on the new 2017 sales tax and the new loans that were received I don't want to make sure but is that important currently with the MIs? Well, Evan has an excellent memory so I'm sure he won't need a recording but we just shared this at the finance committee meeting a couple of days ago, right? Last Wednesday, thank you, Tom. And if memory serves, we've exceeded expectations as everyone recalls and yes, the answer is yes. I will come back with a report and a handout to summarize that but we did just share that at finance and I see Wendy here as well paging through as you have that with you or not. If memory serves, we were expecting we budgeted for 2018-9 million because as you recall when we put our plan together estimates where we would receive somewhere between 8.5 and 9.5 million a year so for 2018 we budgeted 9 million for 2017 we budgeted 2 thirds of that 6.5 million and at this point I think we're closer to about 8 million I'm looking at when the earnings so we did exceed our expectations with our budget we took more of a conservative approach those dollars will fall to the bottom line our retained earnings area for transportation purposes to be used as intended and the beauty of that is when you have sales tax revenue down it's based on the economy and if we have a healthy reserves there when things are slower we'll still have adequate funds to appropriately maintain our transportation system but I will come back with the floor report. Okay, consideration of committee reports executive committee resolution number five regarding the landing of land records modernization plan and your recommendations you have got. Supervisor Weyman I'll hold for approving resolution number one Thank you, Supervisor Weyman Supervisor Weyman Chairman, I will second that one. Thank you, Supervisor Weyman Any discussion? Charter to give a question. Seeing none please push your yes or no button. This is a previous analysis. Thank you. Resolution number 21 regarding approving acquisition of aligned utility quarter property for recreational trail development recommendations you have got. Supervisor Gary Thank you, Mr. Chairman I'll move for adoption of resolution number 21 Supervisor Dan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman I will second that motion. Thank you, Supervisor Dan. Supervisor boundary, did you have a question? No, it's been seconded. That's not it. Supervisor Abner Any questions or discussion? If not please push your yes or no button. That motion is approved. 20 I to no. Thank you. Organs number 10 regarding head and 20 county Asian corporation representative to the therefore advisory committee recommendation to adopt. Surprising to street. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll move to adoption. Thank you, Surrising to street. Surrising your anger. Second motion to adopt organs number 10. Thank you, Surrising your anger. Any discussion or questions? Seeing no lights. Push your yes or no button. Which is a preview name of the item. Thank you. Consideration committee reports finance committee resolution number 22 regarding authorizing should avoid any kind of planning and conservation department to apply for 2017 County Conservation Aids recommendation to adopt. Supervisor Dan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will move to adopt resolution 22. Thank you, Supervisor Dan. Supervisor Winkle. Second. Thank you, Supervisor Winkle. Any discussion? Hearing none. Please push your yes or no button. The motion is a preview name. Which is a link. Thank you. Consideration committee reports block committee ordinance number 9 regarding establishing a speed zone on county roads J and P on a grinding recommendation to adopt. Supervisor Epik. Please determine the winner out of that couple to make a motion to reject. Is there a second? Supervisor Glock. I move to approve. We're still looking for a second on the motion. I got it. I got it. Supervisor Reves. How second is that? Thank you, Supervisor Reves. The motion to reject we don't have too many like that. Is there a future under it? Carol is doing a little research. I pressed my button. You didn't see it? No, I didn't. Okay. You have something to say? I was going to second the motion but I don't have anything to pick up. I took them in the ordinance. But I still didn't show it. You're right. Okay. So it doesn't make a difference. Now in order. I can't do it. I don't know where the order was. Well, Carol is looking at it. What problems will be faced up here is if you wanted to second the motion and you weren't selected to cancel RTC button so that your light up here goes out otherwise it's really confusing if there's like three people that have the button pushed after it's been a motion to second. We don't want people to speak to the issue or if you intended to second the motion just press that cancel button if you don't want to speak. This is not something new that's happened with the old system as well. It's just a little longer. Yeah, it's pretty difficult with new technologies. Take the time. Okay, so we're going to remove that motion. Because the there is no ordinance right now. So the motion to reject the ordinance is a nullity. Because there isn't an ordinance here. Is an unresented ordinance to send it from our goals? We're not resending it. We're not resending it. We're changing streets. Okay, so I'll clear the board and we'll start over. That's why we have the Corporation Council here. And suprasit distributed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, suprasit distributed. Is there a second? You got a second? No. I didn't think so, but your light was on. I'll second it. Thank you, suprasit. Now a discussion. Yes. You could have moved to five. I didn't have that. Your choices to move to adopt or enact four to five. Okay, no bad intentions here. Suprasit, are you ready? No. Anybody else have a comment on the motion? Thank you, Chairman. Thank you. A lot of times they're coming up with these recommendations to reduce the speed limit in some of these areas. Granted, you know, there's a number of reasons why we might want to reduce the speed limit for desperate and safe at the lot of times I don't feel it's necessary because if they're speeding it if they're speeding the speed limit of what they're doing there now it's just another example of previously reduced limits. Besides that in this situation enforceability as I perceive it my only perception is frankly it's going to be very difficult so I don't know why we want to change something that's been in effect since I've known about it and if only there are a small minority of people that want to change it for whatever reason I don't see any force not to change the speed limit Thank you, Surveyor Surveyor Nelson being not familiar with exactly what parts of JMP are being suggested for somebody explaining exactly what we're talking about and the reason to say that Brian, are you on a look like you're just on this one? I'm ready Studio number one I'll be there before Adam said my name is Brian Wilson I'm a highway superintendent for the highway department The question in the area is what your question was Part of key Paul is the area from basically right in front of Lake Shore Drive to the other side of the boat landing but for a big Elkhart Lake boat landing that's one of the areas that curve there's a slight curve the other section is on J basically where A goes to the west on the other side of the lake would be on the southeast corner of the Elkhart Lake that nine for a quick look if you go there it's in or if there's a section of 45 miles an hour in there as well Just just some of the follow up have there been accidents or problems I believe there's a good change There was a study request that was done process we did a speed study through there with our traffic counselor and part of this is being pushed I think there used to be a path around Elkhart Lake that was not a public path going outside of the shore all the way around and a lot of the residents need to not have people basically trespass people are looking for alternative places to walk and they're concerned about walking on the road because of the speeds and narrow roads so I'm afraid to get it Thank you Brad Supervisor Weigl Thank you Mr. Chairman I'm going to supervise our opinions thoughts on this I watched where they widened and made the road much safer and then proceeded to drop the speed limit 10 miles an hour just like we're seeing here now there hasn't been any road changes but I think Supervisor Epping probably has a better knowledge of this road than most of us here and if he doesn't think it's necessary to drop the speed limit I would agree with him Thank you Supervisor Weigl Supervisor Weigl I was just going to say that only a few people are affected by that much is true but a few people are affected are the people who live out there and the transportation committee made this recommendation based on what it was giving us Thank you Supervisor Weigl Supervisor Weigl I have a great ask just exactly what is the speed limit there now I believe it's 45 45 which I feel is the same speed in that particular area as you know I'm opposed to all the speed of the changes Thank you Supervisor Weigl Supervisor Alder Thank you Mr. Chair Being in my district being familiar with the roads I support the transportation committee's decision to do this it is really an element of safety there are a lot more people visiting coming down Carthage very intuitive for tourism there's a lot more walkers there's a lot of walkers with children younger with adults just from the aspect of safety here I will support this Thank you Surveyor Alder Surveyor District Thank you Mr. Chair This was brought to the Highway Committee with the recommendation of the safety committee that's looked into every one of these speed speed zone requests and it was there a recommendation that that just according to the facility Highway Committee could react on their role this is a recommendation of the safety committee Thank you Surveyor District Surveyor Alder Thank you Chair One more thing about this we have almost everybody in this room the majority driving society we don't need a speed zone reduction when we're driving to reduce our speeds to be safe on roads from what I know on accident causation accidents are caused by vehicles people or weather the weather and the vehicles are okay it's up to the community so ultimately no matter what speed it is accidents occur people can get injured in this case the reduction of the speed to $10,000 is not necessarily going to reduce the people that are used to driving that area and driving with intelligence and responsibility and I don't think we're going to accomplish anything by going through the process of reducing the limits people will drive accordingly or not accordingly so I would begin once again this change Thank you Surveyor Alder Yes, when this was brought to the Transportation Committee a couple of factors here that make this probably unique that this historic race will go away so loop around and alternatively that would use for the historic driving competition that is still used for the classic race but anyway the highway department is unable to make any modifications to that roadway so they can't widen the road they can't add shoulder they can't take out hills or improve dips or whatever it's the same situation where as Greg said where a road is widened and improved and things like this so we're limited that a road is not going to be changed the other thing is the village of Elphard Lake has got a group of concerned citizens who are trying to develop a walking trail and are in the process of this but they realize that there's a large population that likes to walk around the lake and add to that tourist traffic who may be less familiar with the residents and I think you're seeing a mix about here where the walkers are asking for a safer environment Thank you, Supervisor Watson Thank you again Mr. Chairman but yeah as I stated earlier like Tom said and everybody understands the growth in the village and if they don't I'll try to provide that information but not only is the village growing to Elphard's point about people that are in the village and there's more carers there's more younger people they're walking, they're jogging and this is again a safety issue so I just reiterate that there's no observation and no opinion because they live there so I see it I know it's a catnaker Thank you, thank you Supervisor Adler See you Mr. Chairman I'll probably support the committee's action on this due to the fact that Supervisor Obler spoke highly of it and says district he has first name knowledge of this area however I do think that I've heard that Supervisor Boseman had the inability of us to make corrections to the roadway or anything to do with historical value I'm wondering if we could also in the future have our planning department or somebody look at a side of the road not the road but like we do bike paths there's things of that nature off to the side 20, 30 feet away from that roadway if something of that nature could be developed because this is only going to get worse it's not going to get better it still kills if somebody gets clobber they're going to be hurt 25, 15, 10, how long do we go? so I think we should start looking for the future this is a developing area I really think we should start looking to how can we develop a safe pathway outside of the historical window of this area Thank you Thank you Supervisor Torchez Supervisor Beves I think part of this is in the area where we've got that parking place where we charge people apart if you want to go on to the lake I've been driven through there quite a bit and sure we're going to have more traffic but you take a look at your cars today the ability to stop is a lot better than it was probably when that 45 dollar speed was put on there and so I can't see we're trying to move traffic roads are to move traffic they aren't for people to play to walk on or kids to play on Thank you Supervisor Beves Supervisor Howard this is the final thought I'm not sure why we're discussing this but it was 45 miles an hour before there was plenty of new housing added in the outcarry most built and there's all sorts of additional young people older people walking it just makes sense I wish I could put it to 25 Thank you very much Thank you Supervisor Howard I see no more lights so if you have a question please push your yes or no button Motion approved, 17 yes Thank you everybody I'll turn the gap over to the vice chair thank you very much for your patience with the technology we'll move forward on this resolution to introduce resolution number 23 from the man's community we're going to carry over unexpected unexpected 2017 appropriations to 2018 resolution number 23 that is referred to the executive committee resolution number 24 from planning resource Zaggy extension committee I'm varying approval and revision andазывations resolution number 24 is referred to the executive committee resolution number 25 from planning resource Zaggy extension committee we're very participating and slowly being held together for years 2018 and 2019 resolution number 25 is referred to the man's community we're going to start with the walk today I'll move to the adjourn motion is to adjourn second Second. Motion to second. Regenerate on paper. Please vote. I'm sure you thought he had a comment. I vote here. Right now we're on the start of the vote. There you go. Yeah. Two minutes. Six by eight. Which are? Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.