 Hey, so good morning everyone If we were in Switzerland, I should have started 25 seconds ago You think I'm joking a friend of mine works for works on a Swiss development team and We live in Germany and this friend is my office mate. He they have a stand-up at 9 o'clock in the morning Okay, 9 a.m. Stand-up good, and and So being you know German cultured about this he fires up his hangout. He gets everything going Five to nine eight fifty-five. He's ready. He's in the meeting. Okay. We're gonna do our stand-up today Let's do the stand-up. He's been working for them for two or three months And he has his first like quarterly review with his supervisor like we're very very concerned about your punctuality You're really gonna have to work on that. He's like, oh my god But I've been in there what what is what? And he's thinking like he doesn't know what he can do more, right? They're like when we say it's a 9 o'clock meeting the meeting starts at 9 o'clock. We don't want to see you in there earlier The Swiss are really really excitingly weird about time. So good morning everyone who's at your first Drupal con Okay, good targeting and who's at your first Drupal community event at all? Wow, welcome. That's cool. You're starting right at the top. It's all downhill from here and And how many of you are involved in other open source software that's not Drupal? Do you write symphony? Do you write straight php? No JavaScript anything? Shout out what you do that's not Drupal Symphony cool JavaScript Yeah, lots of job. Well, we need it nowadays, right? so I'm gonna go through a few slides. I want to keep this really informed I'm gonna go through a few slides just talk about me one of my favorite topics and then Why I think I can help you with Drupal calm and we're gonna go through a few pages of the website and then I really want to know What you're here for if you want to think of something to say later? Why are you here? What is it that you hope to get out of Drupal calm this week? And what is it that you need to know to make that happen? Then and we're gonna see if we can find out like figure out solutions for all of that, okay? So using the power of Apple, which is not open source So everybody calls me jam. I am a partner at a company called open strategy partners We incorporated Three or four weeks ago, I think so so that's fun and open strategy partners we do strategy and communication so marketing strategy and communications for companies and organizations involved in open source and It's really really really fun so far. We've got a couple clients and it's good good times I'm doing this because I Was a big part of my experience. I started Drupal in 2005 I was the 18th employee at Aquian and I left Aquia this year At around 800 employees. So I have lived through massive startup growth building a business based on open source all of that sort of thing so my Real passion is figuring out this amazing space between Lots of hard work and contribution that we share with each other and creating value creating business value for ourselves Creating stuff for our clients. So that's what that's what we're really interested in and if you want to talk about anything Related to business value of contribution open source and business all that kind of stuff come talk with us That's my business partner Tracy wave Tracy. Hi Yeah, so I love coming to Drupal events because I get to hang out with with superheroes that's Addison Berry Who's on the Drupal Association board right now really really long-term contributor the project? She runs Drupalize me the video training service. She's a CEO of that My first Drupal con was at Drupal con Brussels in 2006 and the registration process for Drupal con Brussels was Walk in the door hand derise a 20-year-old note and get a t-shirt and there were about 220 of us there. It wasn't the first Drupal con ever. It was maybe the third or the fourth Drupal event But think about it Drupal con was 200 people. So organizing the social evening a guy would just kind of stand up on the table and yell Okay, everybody tonight. We're going to this bar and that restaurant It was it was the yeah Drupal was different So in this I think this is my I think this is my 21st Drupal con in the last five years I've given More than a hundred presentations dozens of keynotes and as I said I moved through the worlds of open-source PHP business And yeah, I really really like that could I think that oh that was most of Drupal con in in 2006 and So this is what the Drupal community looked like at that point that guy's me I'm still doing Drupal. Here's Angie Byron web chick. There's Morton DK I'd say about half of this picture is still in Drupal Actually, which is pretty interesting Chicks Merlin of chaos where that says that's a role models who created views Let's see. Oh the see this Charter that name there Charter he actually Created the first version of Drupal.org and he was user One and then Dries and he swapped so that Drupal that Dries could have the super user Account on the website Moshe Weitzman is in the back there. Moshe is here now Moshe is the creative organic groups and a lot and and rush And he's still involved in Drupal and there's a ton of other people Really interesting people who are there? How young we all were it's embarrassingly long time ago. That was me at my first Drupal con Information overload is a thing Okay, and one of the things I want I want you to go to as many sessions as you think are going to be useful to you And if you're not sure maybe go and listen to it But if it doesn't work for you just stand up quietly and leave it's okay. It's allowed in open source It's called voting with your feet go and find something that's more valuable to you But it's really important not to choose a session in every single slot of the day Okay, because that's What's gonna happen to you before you even get to the party? Okay, and it's really really really important to Meet people. So I don't know who was here for the pre note this morning that crazy. Hey, wow Thank you for coming so that fun weird. What does that have to do with Drupal thing? That's really important to us because So many Drupalists are musicians or scientists or you know They're qualified as kindergartners or like you'd never know who you're gonna meet and everyone here is an expert Everyone here you can learn something from That man for example is an exceptional executive coach and elite athlete athlete trainer, right? Who would have known unless you know you walked up and talked with him? So it's really important when you get in a big crowded room and you're not just sitting with your friends Introduce yourself to the person you're with go find a table at lunch where you're not sitting with people You know and introduce you to self to everyone find out what they do I've made years-long friendships using that and and business partners and found gigs and deals and all sort of thing Go meet the people we have this concept of the hallway track Spend time in the coffee break just make sure that you meet new people and you take home new friendships after this week That's really really a really important part of of what we do This was Drupalcon second. It's a bit bigger. That's 2008 This is Austin Drupalcon Austin. That's a really big crowd That's right after the pre note. There's Campbell you see and me and that's about 3000 people right there and Yeah, that's a that's an old sales pitch that that we like to use in Drupal say, you know when you hire me You know your two your two man your 10 person your one woman Drupal shop, you know This is 10% of your developer pool right not even 10% like you're hiring all these people when you hire us Open source is really really powerful that way And we're part of much more than just you know just Drupal all of PHP and the fact that we use Composer that we use symphony components all of this. We have massive extended communities. So please don't make this your last Open source event and go to other communities meet other communities as well and then do the same thing teach them the Drupal hug There's a photo from Drupalcon Portland. There were also an enormous number of people there So I said it was going to be quick and informal. Those are my slides I'm I'm really really interested to know who you are What you do and what you want to get out of the day here? I can go through a couple of tips and tricks about getting through the con and and and then Are you ready to ask me some questions after that? maybe maybe okay, so Let's have a look here. Let's go to my browser. Oh, you can't see that. Haha. Sorry Wow, very good so driving remote here we are Program right so every day has a bunch of sessions and a bunch of other things going on Who does not know what a birds of a feather session is Birds of a feather sessions are really interesting and important So there's a saying in English birds of a feather flock together. So Maybe you really need to figure out new solutions to use, you know Technology and education or maybe you want to know how to run a club website or maybe you're excited about that incredibly new JavaScript Library that everyone, you know is puzzling about and you want to talk with talk with other people about it You can go there's a birds of a feather page on the website and you can look at the schedule there And if there are slots there you can put in your own Discussion group and it's not for making presentations. It's not for sending stuff but you can say we need to talk about the community in Bulgaria or we need whatever it is you want and Birds of a feather people with common interest you can come and talk with your peers and talk about that And it's a great tool for planning local camps for meeting people from your region for discussing Language issues in your translation, whatever it is that you need out of Drupal. That's a great option birds of a feather They're really really interesting and important every evening There are also let's see if it's on here every evening. There are social events and the social events are pretty important In Drupal as well, let me mirror my screen so that I can see what you're seeing at the same time It's thinking about it. All right. Okay. Awesome. Wow. It's incredibly tiny. I need my glasses now so Let's see every evening there are social events and just like you should Introduce yourself to new people every day at lunch at the other sessions Tonight there is the Drupal con official Community party put on by the Austrian Drupal Association and it's going to be a they're calling it a Viennese ball But there's gonna be you know where what you want. There's gonna be snacks I believe there's gonna be music and it's gonna be a great place to just hang out and meet people from here Wednesday women in Drupal is always a great event And there's a bunch of other Events I assume that most of us are probably not invited to the Drupal con CEO dinner, but it's here on the it's here on the schedule and Thursday there's an interesting new event the Drupal marketing sprint I'm gonna be checking that out for sure. That's a new thing to Drupal and the single best and most Important event of Drupal con is Thursday night trivia night this is where the community comes out for blood and Because it's your first Drupal con any team that you go on gets bonus points for you being on the team So you have you have a valuable contribution to make it trivia night and there's always good drinks there So I find that's a real motivation Yeah, I know So lots of sessions to choose from lots of session tracks to choose from Open-source software comes from our contributions, right? Obviously code also community organizing Writing documentation doing translations running great businesses, right telling your friends about it. That's all contributions to To open source, but we have these we have these sprints And a code sprint is where people come together to solve technical problems together and the community aspect of This is really important. We're a community who works remotely with each other for for you know 50 weeks of the year and as we know online there can be real problems with trolling real problems with people attacking each other and Once you've met someone in person look them in the eye had a beer with them had a conversation with them worked on a patch together Right, you have an actual relationship with that person. You remember you remember you remember what she looks like you remember how he talks and Contribution with someone you've met in person that there's an actual relationship there and it the remote work is Lubricated it goes better You know you have an actual person in your mind And it really really helps to remember that when we're looking at the issue cues We're looking on Twitter in this time of of of deep Discontent in our community and extreme politics around the world and so on you really really have to remember that the people behind those words on the screen they're also people right and Somebody just lost their job. Somebody just had a kid. Somebody's struggling to pay the bills Somebody's learning somebody knows more than you somebody knows less than you We have to keep in mind that we're human and working together in person is a great opportunity to really You know get a taste of the human side of our project If you've never Done a code sprint before and even if you only have limiting code limited coding abilities there are new New contributor sprints and they're mentored and there's a page on here to say what you need to do to prepare and get ready For that and as a whole Special room with special mentors on Friday set up for first-time contributors new contributors They will help you get your machine set up. They will help you look for good issues They will tell you how the process works It's a fantastic tradition in the Drupal community the onboarding and mentoring that that those people do is is fantastic And if you really really want to get excited about Drupal Write a patch that gets accepted into Drupal like maybe you just fix a word Describing how how one of the interfaces works like but your patch, right? Your work once it's gone through the process That gets downloaded 300-400,000 times a month like the feeling of ownership Once a piece of your code like you typed and that that's being used everywhere It's amazing right and then the project is a little bit yours and and and you're a little bit more You know sucked into the black beautiful black hole that is Drupal So I highly recommend checking up the sprints if you're inclined at all to write code There are plenty of other ways to contribute And a contribution is another of the things that I think about a lot in my in my work I wrote a blog post Last spring about attending your first Drupal con and I'll just see about the highlights there What clever things I? Said I said come to the pre-note Most of you got that. Thank you. I said come to the tree snow. I think probably most of you stayed for that too Come to this session. You're doing very well on that front Remember to drink water right and If you go to an American con And it's the summer and I'm just of course this is completely irrelevant now But the way the Americans manage their buildings if it's the summer Bring a sweater with you because it's going to be freezing inside the building. It's absolutely awful how they do that Bring some business cards. Don't forget to introduce yourself to people and talk with them If you haven't decided what you're going to go and see it would be really worth sitting down in the break And getting an idea of what you really want to see so that you're not sort of Panicking a lot at the last minute and losing time trying to figure out what you should do next There's a Drupal con app on the play store and the whatever the Apple one is That can be pretty helpful Let me see Oh Yeah, Drupal loves social media. So if you're on Twitter and you use at Drupal con you are For example, or I am at horn cologne Drupal loves Twitter Drupal's pretty active on Facebook to get to you know joining on social media That's a really really good thing to do to told you about sprints already Yeah, and then after Drupal con I hope that you'll feel More part of the community and more and you know ready to spread the word and and participate Even more the next time I would say that that is absolutely everything that I have to say Of a formal nature and I'd really it would be a privilege for me to get to know Any of you who want to you know share something now and and like I said, I'd be really really curious to know Why you came here what you want to get out of Drupal con and then all the questions that you might have Like what you feel might you know what information you need to to make those things happen who wants to start Andres, why are you at Drupal con? Thank you. Awesome. Do you want to come up here and put say it into here so that it's recorded and then we'll Have a conversation fantastic Ben I'm recently a developer after changing from project management and Basically just interested in learning a lot more about Drupal. I've been at a Drupal agency for about six months now But it's still fairly Behemothic to me at the moment so nice adjective I'm basically just trying to get a greater understanding of all of sections of Drupal both front end and back end and even the business side of things Yeah, cool. Yeah, and So you're gonna do technical sessions Yeah, I mean that was gonna be one of my questions really was like do you have any Recommendations in terms of like balancing sessions either towards like let's say your strengths because right now I'm far more front end But equally like a lot of the back end stuff interests me a lot But I feel at the same time, you know, I see this sort of like difficulty ratings or whatever all the session recommendations But I'm not sure how intermediate intermediate is because some things I read which are intermediate I know that and some I'm like that for me is, you know, next level advanced. Yeah. Yeah, that's a little tricky It comes I think it comes down to how the description is written, right and whether and also You know, whether you just want like want to go in there and give it a go for five minutes But I would say that If you if you are working mostly in the front end, right? Then you have an opportunity to share what you know when you go to sessions like that But if you're really trying to move your career towards the back end, right? Then maybe you should pick like three things that you think you really need to know about in the next six months and Not only go to that session, but then talk with the person who gave the session, right? Because once you know them you can get an IRC or Slack or wherever with them And you know, you might have a great resource to to pull you along further Anyone else? It would be cool if you could do it into the microphone because you know, then we'd have Have this recorded for posterity. Everybody's very very shy today All right, I know you can't hear it so Matias Matias Nielsen, where are you from? And I work at a small software company We've kind of it's only me and my boss out of seven employees who use Drupal And that's kind of why they've invested in sending me here to learn more about it Cool. And what do you what do you need to bring back your boss to make this week a success? Pretty much like general overall knowledge because it's it's me who has to kind of take over most of the Drupal side stuff once he's ready Okay, so that's simple. You just have to learn about all of Drupal in the next three days. Yeah Probably mostly back-end stuff because I need to do a lot of backing up stuff generally And um, you from Copenhagen I'm from a small island called bolster But yeah, I work in Copenhagen because there's a ton of great Drupal and Drupal is in in Copenhagen Are you do you go to the user scene the the meetups and stuff? I'm going to after Because they want to send me there too. Okay, fantastic. So um Not only are there a bunch of great companies and really great community members up there There's a there's a ton of people that you could and should meet You should maybe especially look for a woman called Camilla Janssen, I guess. Anyway, her username is knacksock naxoc and she's about this tall And and Danish and she lives in Copenhagen and she's um Addison Barry's wife and Addison Barry also lives in Copenhagen And I know that they're here this time if you go introduce yourself to Camilla Um, that'd be a great resource to like to meet more people in Copenhagen and and have you met Morton DK You're going to the Danish meetup. All right Vikings ruled Good plan. Okay Who's next? You you sat on the right side of the room. So Giles, where are you from jazz? I am yes, but I live in Berlin these days and I work there and I'm being terribly rude and sitting here and doing some Work while you're talking. I was listening the whole time, but unfortunately needs must Well, no, I mean, that's uh multitasking is our reality, right? I really don't like multitasking. I'm a single track kind of a guy And it's just not yeah, I know it's a facebook Uh Trying to give away. I don't want to be doing social media management anymore I want to concentrate on Drupal, which is one of the reasons I'm here and one of the reasons I'm quite annoyed at being distracted Fantastic. So um, what is it that you need to get out of this week and how can we help you? Everything in every way. All right. So are you looking for for more technical stuff or I mean, I'm more of a back-end person. Um, and so, um I'm more looking into uh Drupal 8 which I haven't really started much developing yet. Um, so, you know, I've done some Drupal 7 development Which is okay for my level of php, but I now I'm one of those people who needs to learn OOP So object oriented. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a bunch of I For me. Okay, but Let's talk about OOP There is a there's a what you get with Drupal 8. Um, once you get there, you know There's a lot more files. There's a lot more depth to the the tree, right? And what's awesome and I'll tell you I'll tell you one awesome thing with Drupal 7 Like once you got really really fluent with Drupal 7 you spent a weekend to learn one internal system and a weekend to learn another Internal system and another week to learn another and that 21 22 of them and they each have their own, um, You know, incredibly idiosyncratic ways of working, right? Now in Drupal 8 thanks to OOP and like ripping and replacing so many things every internal system has unified The same CRUD operations and you only need to learn each of their specialty So you learn one system and you've learned like 80 of the whole thing Right. So once you're there, like there's a steep little thing, but then there's a really really nice plateau Awesome awesome Berlin cool town except we have to officially hate it because all our friends are moving there from Cologne right now But if you come down to Cologne look me up, okay All right, so someone in the middle of the room. I'm from Spain Valencia But I live in Norway I can tell by your incredible Norwegian accent So are you doing Drupal up in Norway? Yeah, I work at a company and we work with newspapers from Scandinavia There's a Drupal Drupal really dominates that landscape, right? So I'm sorry if this is personal, but Is it has Drupal knowing Drupal has that helped you be more mobile in your career? Like I know that the Spanish economy hasn't you know been the greatest is that is that part of why you're in Norway? Um, no, it's basically the company. I would say So what are you here for in in in vienna? Well, my company Is quite sped out so we reunite here Also to learn more from each other So that whole remote story that I was saying that counts for your your company as well Like you have a sort of a team building exercise at Drupal con as well All right, and what do you need to know to make your week a success? It's my I've been developing Drupal for one year and yeah, I really want to Learn more about the Drupal community, especially I really really highly recommend Checking out the sprints in your case because as a as a as a coder and a relatively new one and trying to get into the community You're going to meet really the right sort of people to to to just keep this going in the in the right way Matias Nicholas, where are you guys from brain bits? Oh, wait a minute cologne. Are you from bomb technically? No, hey, so a laugh No, no, no Oh, okay. All right. We have friends in the sort of twos Um, what are you guys here for this week? Uh in our company. We are building a new Drupal age development team and so our boss wants us to To get the knowledge from here and how we can uh, how we can acquire that I think it's front end. I'm a front-end developer and um, yeah, I put a lot of uh talks and Crosses workshops on my schedule. Yeah, he's gonna do the hard work You guys are gonna focus on the beer drinking. I have this Great, um So that's cool. I didn't I don't think I knew that brain bits was in cologne And that's that's really good news. Um, let's hang out When we're back home. We have we have our office on hanzering. So Okay, fantastic. Let's make sure okay. So hey, so we're doing live community building here I just got connected back to the local user group where I'm supposed to be already So shame on me. I think um Who else has a problem or a question? They're not sure how to Get something meet someone learn something This week you Thank you very much Hi Karim. Yes. Where are you from? From mines from mines. I work in this body, but uh, yeah, I'm living in mines. Fantastic A lot of Germans in there today Yes Yeah, I work in the public sector and we are maintaining um several Drupal seven instances And we have the challenge to migrate to Drupal eight. So that's we want to learn about and also figuring out how to out automate tests to um improve security and also to Automate the upgrading process. Um, yeah to Yeah A little bit quicker. Cool. So, um, uh on I think on Thursday you have to look at the schedule. Um, zabastian bergman is going to be at triple con and he's the maintainer of php unit Um, and he's going to be talking about testing obviously And so that's a great great person to to hang out with and if he's got time to be at the sprints I know he wanted to spend time at the sprints talking about Um testing with people who needed help So zabastian bergman is going to be here and that's a great place to start for that stuff If you want to look at migration stuff My office mate is really good at that, but he's leaving. He can't stay at the con all week But he's in cologne and if you get in touch I can introduce you Um, but there's like a fundamental question too, you know, Drupal seven is still supported right? It's still got switch security patches Um, why is it that you need to upgrade to Drupal eight and what's the timeline? I think it's related to the um elections in hessie. Um, so it's um the elections are in 2018 so after that we will probably um need new Completely new sites because there will be a new government and they want Yeah to represent themselves So, yeah, that's the timeline, but we want to learn about it and maybe try it out During the next year to to gather some some experience and yeah, okay So that's actually a really great excuse just so like let's build a new site anyway So you're looking more at maybe data migration So you may be building a new application and then moving the data into it Yeah, because I think there's no of easy Or a common way to to migrate the content. Um, so Probably we have to build some tool for ourselves to migrate The content I'm not sure about that, but I think the good news is um, uh, Dries was saying who was paying attention to Dries note today What did he say about the migration path? 12 critical bugs Okay, so that's something to contribute to at this in the sprint in this in the sprints this week um, but the the concept with Drupal eight was to you're never going to do another upgrade, right? We're going to build a new application and we're going to migrate into it Then the the future thing with the with the double apis down the road is going to make that It's future music as we say in drum But it sounds like if you look into the area of migration now and look at the migration tools and look at the migration path That would be a great place to learn And it would be a great place to contribute because you're going to be contributing Straight into what you need to do at work with six months eight months from now, right? So, um Um, you should find there are always sprints going on, right? And if you have time in between the sessions go find uh, someone who's running the sprint room They'll have like a special t-shirt or something and start asking them Who is working on the migration path and that you'd like to learn more and that you'd like to help And they will take you straight to the right people who are doing that and then you will help us And help yourself at work next year Is it a plan? All right Thank you very much and if you come to cologne Ping me we'll do a beer Or more than one because they're small in cologne. Hey, okay. So that feels like that feels like progress. Who else needs to Need something do you need something? Do you mind coming across the room? I'm sorry that They don't have credit cards or wireless mics in austria Hi, i'm jam Magic nice to meet you. Yeah, are you from the check republic? No, are you from slovakia? No Wait a minute. Wait, wait Okay, where are you from? Um You're from poland We were just in poland our friend adam from the pre-note the guy with the black curly hair. He just got married in morso Yes. Yeah. Oh, it's fantastic I love polish food Sorry, okay, so, um It's getting a little late here. So magic. What do you do with ruble? Uh, well, I would like to be more engaging community because I'm developing Drupal in the last 10 years Maybe nine, uh, but My commitment in community was quite small, so now I think I should I want to more engage and See how I can Do that fantastic. So are you are you a developer? Yes. I'm back in developer But also can do work in front and it's not a not problem But mainly I'm working in back and now for Flemish government We are providing some Drupal solutions. So nice. Nice. The Flemish government has a huge Installation and it's been around for a long time. So I imagine it needs some upgrades and stuff too And we did first migrations last year So to Drupal 8 And now we are preparing next ones. So When you say you want to contribute more and be more part of the community, what is it that you want to do more more code patches more? Yes, also more code patches, but also initiatives related to rex, etc. So I'm open now. Actually, I'm I'm here to search something for me. Okay. So cool. So go check out the sprint rooms because they will tell you Absolutely everything you need to know about contributing more code and there is a guy here called Roy Sholton And he's the newest Core maintainer and he's the ux lead for core And if you want to work on that kind of stuff go meet him. He's dutch. He's about that tall and And his username is yo roi y o r o y Find yo roi ask him like tell him you're interested see and just You know Find out who he tells you to talk with what he tells you to look at and that'll be like that'll be a really good Like if you start at the top then you can it'll be hard to go wrong with that Okay, cool. Hey, great. Thanks. Thanks for coming to Drupal con all right now We have We have 20 minutes that we can talk as much as we want Um, I propose depending on how you feel about this, you know, we can we can wrap up For maybe five minutes and then get to our break a little earlier have some more coffee. How are we feeling? More like five minutes More like 20 minutes More like five minutes I was I was I was I was trying to get you there. Thank you. Josh Thank you very much. Okay, so, um Would you like to tell us what you're what you need to get out of Drupal con this week? Yes, you in the orange jacket Hi, i'm jam I know very nice to meet you. Where are you from? Finland, yeah Sealy solutions not silly sealy is hedgehog in finnish. It's hedgehog. Yes, there's a story which I bought won't get into now right now Sorry, the details are a bit hazy to me. I should get better on the company strategy Because it was vodka plus sauna equals company name Not so much. It's all about being agile and uh, that kind of stuff. So yeah, yeah, so what do you do with? Um, currently I work with maintenance of our triple sites, mainly triple seven for the moment And and i'm looking forward to get into more d8 and prepare myself and also get Like smarter with the support flow workflows. Okay, so you're looking for that sort of inspiration this week? Yeah, maybe and for a company more like, um, how do we sell triple? We're like 500 Strong it consultancy a triple is team is eight nine And and and how do we sell triple internally or how do we promote it in finland? How do we get ahead with that? So that's maybe another angle That's really interesting. So on the um on the The workflow side, I wonder if maybe project management sort of sessions Uh, uh, wouldn't be valuable. I'm not sure I haven't looked at all the tracks But that might be a place to look in terms of of you know, how we build to sometimes there've been in the past There have been sessions for you know, how to support 500 customers on a shoestring budget or how to all that sort of thing So project management might be really interesting and then there's um, there's a business and and marketing track that has a few Uh, uh, really really great sessions this time So in terms of of learning how to sell and learning how to talk about it Um apart from calling us up Right and having a beer with with with tracy and me here because like that's what we live and breathe I would check out the business track and then I would try and balance my time between The the the internal advocacy problem is a really really interesting one So so we've been talking with some organizations very very large organizations who Um need to learn communications just to be able to to sell to sell What they're doing internally and I'd really really love to talk with you more about like the challenges that you face Like I don't know if you're competing with other technologies or you Have the php haters and you have the right I'd really really love to explore that more with you So but I think um some of the business track would be interesting and um Maybe my session on the business value of contribution And then and then uh project management stuff. Yeah, like ultimately testing and that that kind of work flows off Oh, okay, if you want to do that side. Yes. Also look for Sebastian Bergman and and the testing sessions. Awesome. So nice to meet you And um, okay everyone Any more questions? Yes, can you come over here at this? Just ended up being this way Hi Hi, who are you? I'm Cillian. I'm from Norway. Nice to meet you. Likewise. I met you before once in Oslo at this Dribble camp And yeah, I work in a small company called new media where I work as the only girl and the only designer Uh, so I'm here like looking for some new input Mostly and I was recommended by some of the other guys there to come here to meet people and stuff So, yeah But I was a little bit unsure how to prioritize The sessions I already got some tips from you now like don't go to a session on every slot like I planned to like Yeah, um, but other than that It's a bit so difficult for me to like decide what should I prioritize So as a designer, how technical do you consider yourself? Well, I've only been working with Drupal for a year And this is also my first working place. So yeah beginner And I'm been we've been working in Drupal seven mostly and I'm kind of trying to learn twig and stuff like that Yeah, so it's mostly just designing and implementing teams. Okay. So designing and implementing teams. That's a really good opener Definitely learn everything about twig that you can and here's a really great tip for the world that we're living in in Drupal eight if you wrap your head around object-oriented php giles If you wrap your head around twig If you know symphony, right These are all completely transferable technologies if you were a great Drupal seven developer You were pretty much a great Drupal seven developer and The internals of Drupal seven are so bizarre that it was really hard to apply them anywhere else but Drupal eights very much mainline php very much in line with how people are doing things now twig is the Um theming layer for more than a hundred other PHP projects So if you know how to make a thing look beautiful and usable with twig Your employability your career path just opened up, you know across I guess Or commerce phpb php bb Easy published and and tons and tons and tons of others see like in all sorts of e-commerce everything in between That's incredibly valuable for you and this connection between visually pleasing usable things and Getting them implemented right is really really hard for a lot of us who come from the technical back end So if you can apply That you can bring incredible value to all of our projects So definitely check out anything to do with twig Probably the front-end d javascripty stuff. One of you guys is a front-ender. No You yeah, you chat with him that told us tonight Renee, sorry With you talk with Renee about about that part of of front of front-end technologies And then I think you'd be on your way to getting a lot out of the week Yes, and don't forget to come to the parties And introduce yourself to your session neighbors It's great to see you Who all right anyone Thank you so much for coming to Drupal con and for coming to this session. It's been really really really great to meet you I'm incredibly easy to find online as Horn cologne and um, yeah Tell me how your Drupal con goes. Okay. Thank you