 There if there's not gonna be a shot of him in the symbiote Oh, seriously like what the what's up? Like what just wake me wake me when you can show me what he looks like in the symbiote Just show me the movie. That doesn't matter. I can't watch any of this show me the movie. All right, you're on we're on It's on about time You know or have some conversation. I thought that that trailer was going to be Him talking to the symbiote because like that's my one of my favorite parts of venom is that the symbiote is a living thing and You know, like I've always said the best the best thing about venom is that not only does he have a superpower? He has a best friend. Here's the thing. I was talking to an employee of rotten tomatoes this morning in bed after we had watched this video and she said that That she's like, yeah, the teasers are getting more like this where they like they don't want to show you anything She's like look at the solo teaser that was during the Super Bowl same thing. They don't show you anything Yeah, the solo Are you really no no charming lines Lando Calrissian and Han Solo no charming banter between the isn't that the reason why we know I mean on the one hand, I'm glad that I don't know what the story is I do often too often that give me the story but give me some I just need like not so fast or something I just want a something that shows that they're charming guys who will wittily you young pirate Yeah, whatever Also that qualcomm story break and gave me a chance to To do a correction for myself All right, you guys ready? Yep, sure Here No The Daily Tech News show is brought to you by its global listener base not outside organizations to find out how you can contribute go to DailyTechnewshow.com slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday February 8th 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lynn from the shores of Lake Merritt in Oakland, California. I'm Justin Robert. Don't be confused The lake and myself have no relation also with us today producer Roger Chang Hello everyone We are gonna talk about Quincy Jones. We are gonna talk about twitch Changing their policies. We are gonna talk about Chinese spice on glasses Mm-hmm. These are all the amazing types of things that we talk about daily on this show Let's start with a few tech things you should know Microsoft build will happen in Seattle from May 7th through the 9th, which overlaps with Google I. Oh, which runs May 8 through 10th in San Francisco will Mountain View but adjacent to San Francisco registration for build will open on February 15th Google is also holding ticket drawings for I. Oh on the 15th and February 22nd. Oh, that's gonna be a hard day to cover Qualcomm's board unanimously has rejected broadcoms revised buyout offer Remember they raised their their offer of shares recently The board of Qualcomm said the offer material under values Qualcomm Qualcomm also said it has offered to meet with Broadcom to see if they can address the deficiencies. So that's a new slightly more conciliatory move It may be just dotting eyes and crossing teas and by the way We previously mistakenly said Broadcom was in the midst of acquiring NXP It's Qualcomm that is in the midst of acquiring NXP But that still could be threatened by this acquisition should Broadcom acquire Qualcomm Everybody clear good Intel has shipped a new code to PC partners to fix to fix specter vulnerabilities for Skylake base core or core M Processors solutions for Haswell and Broadwell chips are expected quote in the coming day And some very sad news we found out right after the show yesterday John Perry Barlow a founder of the Electronic Founder Foundation died Wednesday at the age of 71 EFF executive director Cindy Cohn shared the news in a blog post Barlow helped found the EFF in 1990 with Mitch Kapoor and John Gilmore and he will be missed While Europe still investigates Google for antitrust the competition Commission of India decided that Google abused its dominance and online search Advertising markets indulging in search bias So Google has 60 days to pay a 1.36 billion rupee fine, which is equivalent to about 21 million dollars So those stories you're like how is no one reporting on this 1.36? Oh, it's only 20 million. That's like pocket change for Google Let's talk a little more about Twitter Twitter just had its earnings report Justin. Oh Did they Tom and you want to know what? Oh Good news for Twitter My sweet Lord Twitter just had its first profitable quarter after going public four years ago the company's 2017 Q4 brought in 91 million dollars after losing a hundred and sixty seven million in the same quarter the year prior Here's the good news Twitter's revenue grew to seven hundred and thirty two million dollars up to percent from seven hundred and seventeen million dollars this time in 2016 monthly users grew by four percent year over year although flat Since Q3 staying at three hundred and thirty million total and monthly users declined in the US falling from 69 million to sixty eight million You know great news that they are profitable You know that this is obviously There's not been a season of fantastic news for Twitter in many many years. However, you almost wonder whether or not the shift for them in terms of the how much bots and Meddling and stuff like that has been in the news that maybe this is an excuse or a window for them To to get a get out of jail free card on on the lack of growth that they can say look we're cleaning stuff up It's not necessarily that we're not growing. We're just fixing some problems. We maybe should have fixed before Yeah, they are they are not growing their revenue as fast as maybe people would like but they have been cutting costs Which could inform why they're slower on responding to things, but they're also bringing in more advertising dollars So it's a it's a tricky balance, and it's actually kind of hard to read anybody who tells you they know where Twitter is going right now I'm probably they probably don't know as much as they think they know But my take on Twitter for a long time has been they don't need user growth the way Facebook does Facebook relies on Absolutely to have engaged users on the platform sharing things creating things putting things around Twitter just needs people to pay attention to it The best thing that happened to Twitter was the president using it as its personal mouthpiece because Everybody talks about what was said on Twitter and not just in relation to the president but lots of things Oh, this person said it on Twitter. I see every news story on the BBC every morning practically has a Twitter post in it So Twitter doesn't need a bunch of users It needs the right users it needs the news maker and the news commentator users And then I think they can sell Twitter because a lot of people will be paying attention to it You know, it's funny the monthly users growing by 4% year-over-years. I mean, it's growth, right? But it's not anything I don't know too dramatic But Jack Dorsey had said a couple things where it's like I wonder if it's true first of all that Switching the feed to an algorithmic feed so that you get stuff at the top that Twitter thinks is most relevant to you And also expanding the character count from 140 to 280 Didn't really change the length of tweets as a rule, but it increased engagement overall Those are two things that I didn't want. I personally did not want from Twitter But you know, it didn't ruin my experience But is it actually helping people like it more? I look the algorithmic feed Like a meddlesome child should be seen and not heard right like you should Experience a better relationship with the platform, but you should not ever feel like oh my god I know with this why did you put three of the same story like right here? Why can't I have this stuff where I want it? There's I am positive that there are plenty of times that in the algorithmic feed I found something I wouldn't found and I like it and I enjoy it But oftentimes that's not what I have a problem with I have a problem with then when it's like oh wait Do you like a story about Elon Musk? How about these 90 of the same exact story? That's rewritten from the same AP story of four times in a row like that becomes frustrated Well, and that's because you follow a lot of different sources Which you should be free to do and the algorithm should know When he's like oh he follows a lot of news sources, so he likes news that doesn't mean he likes the same news story over and over and over and over again Source code for i-boot, which is a core component of the iPhone's operating system was posted on github which could help hackers find vulnerabilities and iOS More likely just make jail breaks easier. It's the secure boot It's part of the firmware secure boot Apple says the code is three years old And it does appear to be largely from iOS 9 though some portions of it are still used with iOS 11 Apple filed a DMCA takedown notice and the code has been removed from github There are plenty of others and Apple makes this clear in their statement about it There are plenty of other ways that they secure your phone So it's less likely that someone would find an easy way into your phone with the source code But definitely jailbreakers the few of them that are still out there and they are out there We'll probably be able to use this to side load apps and and unlock some certain administrative functions I I think the mistake I that Apple's making and they they sort of addressed this in their statement, too Is that by taking it down with the DMCA notice now? You're leaving it where only the people interested in toying with it are going to see it You won't have as many eyeballs on it because it's still out there once it's out there It's out there right and so the bad guys are gonna have more of a chance to mess with it than the good guys Which means there's less of a chance of finding a vulnerability before it gets exploited. I Almost wonder how much of that is them protecting their right to put that up in the way that they want. Oh, yeah No, it is They're not open sourcing the code. So they kind of have to you have a very good point there and that's that's hard It's it's yeah, it's Unfortunate, right? I mean this is not something that Apple is happy about I am curious if this is iOS 9 This particular code, you know, how much of it has changed, you know, Apple's not going to be like It seems like most of it's totally different from the people who've looked at it. It seems like most of it has changed There is some of it for iOS 11. I doubt it will lead to a security vulnerability, but it could it's it's certainly possible Also possible Some facial recognition with sunglasses according to reports from local media in China police are testing sunglasses with built-in facial Recognition at train stations in Zhengzhou where they'll be used to scan travelers during the upcoming new lunar New Year migration, which is like one of the biggest ones across the world every year The sunglasses are controlled by a connected mobile unit so for about 3991 or 636 dollars facial recognition is costing extra LL vision makes these glasses and says they're able to recognize individuals from a preloaded database of 10,000 suspects of people who You know might be doing bad stuff in just 100 milliseconds But here's the levels and no like do you always I just I imagine, you know all these like policemen walking around and see no train station with like these cool sunglasses Just like trying to figure out where the robbers are well I mean that's the thing right like they show the they show these sunglasses and man Doesn't she look cool with their cool surveillance sunglasses on they don't have to be sunglasses The camera's on the outside you can see it's it right there. It's it's just kind of a Google glass type thing. Yes I mean the bigger question here is What are your expected rights to privacy when you are walking through a public place? and there happens to be a member of law enforcement with an internet connected device that can scan your face and Recommend you and then how much faith do we have as well? How much face would one have as a Chinese citizen to? Trust that technology would be correct. I think the sunglasses part of it and I you know I I haven't seen them But it seems like you're drawing more attention to the fact that you would be doing this rather than have you know a little something On your lapel or you know some CCTV camera up in the corner of the train station that nobody really notices Well, yeah I think you kind of need it on the glasses because then it can show you a display like Google glass does did does Does still you've been used in the enterprise? So yeah, like in real time. Yeah, but it wouldn't have to be sunglasses. You're it's I I do think That it's going to be hard for a lot of people to separate their opinions about China from their opinions about the story But if you can successfully do that there isn't anything inherently wrong with the police Using an aid to identify people I mean police can just look at someone and if they are good enough with facial recognition in their brains and have looked through the You know the the mug shots. They'll be like, that's the guy get him, right? A little bit of an aid in that is not Inherently wrong. It's how it's used. I don't have a problem with police having these on The problems all come into what are they used for? How is the data aggregated? Does this mean that they will you know start to Projudicially stop people based on the information that's coming up. It's all what what they do with the information. That's where it makes the difference Yeah, and you know you could make an argument that stuff like this could be better Let's say theoretically if certain people are pulled over a lot that you could say well listen We ran now that scan my face and see if I am a person of interest if I am not then now There's a reason that I need to be let go. Yeah, it's a faster than going back and running the license, right? If you can do accurate facial recognition and of course you might have missed what Sarah said there But accuracy levels in real life usage may vary due to environmental noise I think that's the other problem here is how good are these things? Well, and especially because it sounds like base So many people going through train stations particular places that like I mean Environmental noise it's like Yeah, you know, well, it's it's visual noise not audio audio noise. That's a good point. No, it'll be it'll be Croucho Mark's classes Listen, I'll tell you what I hope that everybody gets home safely for their lunar new year celebration in in the next few weeks Amazon has added Whole Foods grocery delivery to its prime now delivery service allowing prime customers to order select items and get them Delivered within two hours. Have you live in certain parts of? Austin Dallas Virginia Beach or Cincinnati The Wall Street Journal reports that Amazon plans to expand the service to other markets, but no word on a timeline. I Mean, that's cool. If I live in that place, I guess It's an interesting way of getting around the Instacart integration. They're not changing Whole Foods delivery service They're changing Amazon's ability to go get something right theoretically Amazon could work like some grocery delivery services in the past used to work and just go to any grocery store and Buy the stuff and add a charge to it with Whole Foods They can do that and not add the charge to it because they already own the company Amazon prime and Prime now already have deals in my area with sprouts I don't know if it would be this the only sprouts throughout the country or if there are other grocery chains that have the same idea That's always been very Inefficient in that you would need to buy like $50 worth of something worth of sprouts stuff to get it delivered via Prime now Whereas I assume they will be a little bit more lenient about what you're able to pick and pack from Whole Foods but look There is no doubt that right now there is an element of culture Clashing between Amazon and Whole Foods and if some of these reports on you know employees Crying and and the lack of a bankrupt morale because of this new Inventory system are to be believed then hope what Amazon hopes is that they are able to come out of this in a few years with a radically redesigned Prime food delivery and a more efficient Whole Foods and Profitable Whole Foods. There was always going to be a culture clash I mean when somebody like Amazon buys a Whole Foods the employees are not going to like it that they're they're going to be They are going to genuinely be against it But having lived in Austin for six years I recall Whole Foods on its own was making its employees cry Because of a battle over unionization back in like 1997 1998 so I'm not surprised that there is a culture clash of some sort whether employees are crying on a regular basis What on earth about the the ruthless efficiency of Amazon and writing the thinnest of possible margins to tremendous success would possibly clash with the live and let live Whole Foods Yeah, I mean it's there's an ideological Perspective that Whole Foods sort of encourages in its customers and I would assume its employees fall into that that in some ways is diametrically opposed to Amazon. That's not it's not a shock. You know, I go to a local Whole Foods I've mentioned that before on the show Here in my part of town and I was very interested to be like what's going to change You know when Amazon takes over and besides a few little displays here and there. It's pretty much the same But I've asked a few of the The cashiers like hey, you know, what do you think and they're like it's business as usual Yeah, the Whole Foods near me. I went on the day Amazon took over on the day The it closed they had no sign that anything could change other other stores around the country were like putting up You know Amazon echo displays and stuff this one. They were like pretending nothing had happened I mean you definitely see the Amazon name around but It sounds like I mean unless there's something they're not telling me that for the most part. It's like, you know, big grocery store I also had some questions about that that crying in the back room story. Just it felt Very narrative driven that it's like of course big mean Amazon making well flower children cry That's I'm not saying it's not true. I don't I would I have I wonder whether or not it is Representative representative. Yeah, I mean that's the kind of story that happens I brought the reason I brought up the unionization fight in Austin in the 90s is because a girl I was dating was crying about it and and I don't know that she was representative of the you know I wouldn't say that all the employees were were crying about it But it's the kind of thing we're like, yeah, you know extreme change can can affect people and make them emotional so What's that began testing a new payments feature in India that will let people send money to each other through though It excludes merchant accounts. This is a Venmo type system for you US listeners Not not a not a point of sale system new features take advantage of India's unified payments interface So it's supported by a large number of banks This puts what's up now in competition with Google's Tez which we've mentioned on the show before and 10 cents hike which operates in India and India's very popular Paytm Which I believe we've mentioned either here or a daily tech headlines has gone from just being a payments app to also including messaging So it went after what's that before what's that went after it? India is what's apps largest market with over 200 million users active daily And what's that will let users know when the payments feature is more widely available But this is the country where there had to be a storage Change made by Google to Android In order to handle good morning messages because everyone sends each other good morning messages I mean what's that getting into payments is? Huge in this country for people who just want to pay each other back or buy stuff directly from one another Certainly so, you know that this Payments as you know China as a platform and payments in general have obviously been gigantic Growth areas over the past five years, but it's so interesting to see where they have settled and and and the idea of the you know, India and China and Asia specifically of Really having been the birthplace of this And and you know, they've we've seen elements of it here in in America, but it hasn't exactly You know a Chattomania has not run quite as wild over America's I think it would have been projected to five years ago You know it when Facebook messenger started allowing us the ability to send each other Money, I was like that might be good. No, no, I I specifically use financial apps for these purposes Somehow it's just like not even though. It's it's convenient. It's like doesn't register to me that it could all be done in one place I Wonder if we had we had an app like WhatsApp that was as dominant here as it is in India That would change because if you're in the app all the time and and this is kind of what Apple was trying to do with Putting Apple pay and messenger, but not everybody uses Apple So that that's not gonna work But if you're in the app all the time and that's always where you're talking to people it makes sense to sit down and say like Oh, hey, let me pay you here. I was I was with my cousin who is much younger than me And she was like do you Venmo and I'm like, I think a old man Merit has a Venmo. Hold on She's like never mind. I'll just pay through Apple pay But if everybody used WhatsApp that conversation becomes real simple Well, and I think what's interesting in America is that financial transactions kind of fall into this weird Goldilocks zone of like I don't necessarily want to do it through my bank because I don't think my bank is going to either It's gonna be a hassle to set up and I'm gonna have to explain to somebody else to get a new thing And I don't necessarily trust The chat app because I'll probably have to set something up like we have these very specific Goldilocks zones of like PayPal and Venmo where it's like, all right, here's a place. I put a little money I know that it's there. It goes back and forth. It's just that little slush between friends But you know as we move this same $25 around for you know, dinner drinks and bar bets and beef points out Most people in North America have access to a bank account, which is also another difference And I think also and this is just like my own paranoia There's something about chatting about possibly personal things in the same place as money being exchanged That makes me feel uneasy. I use Venmo all the time, but like I don't want to chat with anybody on you don't Venmo Where you eat? Part of that might be cultural one thing My parents have noted a long time ago is that generally in the US it's impolite to talk about money in Discussions and though in many cultures, it's completely normal talk about how much you make which you know like it's it's or like you know Just you know doing like things with money that most people would consider crass And so there might be a cultural barrier to that and and then people therefore will well This is my financial app. This is my you know social networking. I did you want these silos because you're more comfortable that way That's true. That's true Twitch updated its community guidelines to say that any hateful conduct will result in immediate indefinite suspension Twitch will also take into account off-site actions when enforcing harassment and hateful content guidelines Victims are going to have to let twitch know this is happening But the idea is that if somebody's harassing you off of twitch to avoid enforcement They might still get suspended on twitch anyway If you can you know make a good enough case twitch also says its moderators will pay more attention to the context and intent of Words not just the words used the changes go into effect Monday, February 19th at 9 a.m. Pacific time It's similar to the sunglasses conversation. This is one where it all depends on how it's implemented Twitch is trying to say we aren't going to go out looking for actions But if you're being harassed and they stop doing it on twitch, but they're they're still doing it somewhere else Send us what they're doing if we can verify it then we'll take action on it So they can't just switch to YouTube and start harassing you there Twitter or something like that Direct messaging or WhatsApp or something like that. That's not independently verifiable That's something that they may or may not be able to take action But it's an interesting way to try to handle people who just want to do nasty things And and and stop them from finding a loophole for it. It's it's switch giving themselves more tools Yeah for enforcement and by that token taking on more Responsibility which I think is a very interesting philosophical path to walk because it is something that we have seen It is frustrated a lot of people on other platforms including YouTube and Twitter specifically where There there seems to be an arms length between hey, we were making these things But we got to stay within the the rules here and we we investigated and it didn't happen so It's interesting that I wife works for Twitch. So that's out in the open, but I Haven't talked to anybody there specifically about this I do get the sense that right now the only two things that people write about when it comes to Twitch are hey look at this cool thing that's happening and hey look at this awful community and They desperately want more of the former and less of the latter And this is a step taken to try and and reduce that yeah taking taking into account context and intent I think is is an interesting Feet to try to achieve Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines available on the Amazon Echo Google home anchor app and as a podcast You can find the info at daily tech headlines dot com Let's check and see if we've got a thing of the day Do we Sarah we do a vulture published an interview with Quincy Jones Probably heard of him became a you know big sort of hot thing on social media everybody I know was like this is the best article you got to read it and Justin Robert Young I pointed out to us earlier today that not only is Quincy Jones pretty cool But it contains a few choice tidbits on some tech Titans that you're familiar with For example Remarking on how people didn't know Woodstock would end up being such an iconic thing at Quincy said those festivals Ain't my thing Elon Musk keeps trying to get me to go to Burning Man. No, thank you Which is you know, I hear you Didn't didn't didn't change my opinion of Elon Musk at all to hear this I can absolutely see it the fact that it happens that he could says it happens is entertaining to me But after having read it, I was like no there's no doubt that of course he does Constantly pesters all of his friends who don't go to Burning Man to go to Burning Man When asked if there were any rock musicians that Quincy thought were good Jones mentioned cream Eric Clapton's band then said But you know who sings and plays just like Hendricks the interviewer said who? Quincy Jones said Paul Allen interviewer says stop it the Microsoft guy Quincy Jones says yeah, man. I went on a trip on his yacht He had David Crosby Joe Walsh son London all those crazy MFers Then on the last two days Steve Wonder came on with his band and made Paul come up and play with him He's good man I mean didn't Paul Allen have the Hit the band. Yeah, the Rock Museum in Seattle. Well, yes, he launched the experience music project While he owned tech TV, which is why we covered it so extensively But yeah, and it's it's an homage to Jimmy Hendricks and music in general But he's also been in a band for a long time and apparently Quincy Jones thinks he can play why isn't he put out a record? Paul Allen shreds. We now know this. Thank you Quincy Jones and finally does Quincy Jones see the future a future for the music business He says there isn't a music business anymore if these people have paid attention to Sean fanning 20 years ago We wouldn't be in this mess, but the music business is still too full of these old-school bean counters You can't be like that. You can't be one of these back in my day people He said literally right before he told a story about John Coltrane But but he makes he makes good point look Sean fanning certainly pointed out a Glaring deficiency if we're gonna look at that that I boot story, right? And and question whether or not this should be something that apples should be was a good thing because it allows the good white hat Security InfoSec researchers to point out that there's a major hole then he's saying look 20 years ago we had a gigantic hole in this industry pointed out for us and We decided as a music industry to turn our head and just a fight rail against the dying of the light Yeah, this is one of the most substantive things tech-wise that he said in this interview because he is someone who has been Essential to the success of the music industry and he's like no man, Sean fanning had a point come on Yeah, well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit you could submit stories of vote on him a daily tech news show dot reddit.com and Joining the conversation of facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show before we leave though We have to check the mailbag Sarah. Yes, we do this one comes from Ron Who said if you didn't watch the show yesterday Patrick Norton joined us and he said Patrick did a really good job Covering a lot of facts about audio in a short period of time I'm sure there are gonna be people who disagree with some facts These are audio files after all and since DTNS often revisits topics based on user feedback I hope you can work out a way he could reply to folks who might have questions or other info It'd be great if DTNS labs could have him and others on for in-depth looks on good quality audio and other topics I'd also like to know what he thinks about consumer audio products that have been THX certified That is a great idea and I've been emailing back and forth with Patrick all day we're gonna put together a DTNS labs and and go deep into to audio and Patrick even what did he say? He suggested maybe talking about you know The first step to stepping up the awesomeness of your audio We will talk about that. 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Yeah, these are the sorts of things where it's it got shared so much yesterday That I was like I'll read it never But I'm glad that it came up again because then I did read it because I knew we were gonna talk about on the show And yeah, it was pretty cool. Oh, I I admitted to Justin on his stream earlier today If it hadn't been for some of the crazy stuff that I was hearing from Justin about this interview I probably wouldn't have read it and I'm glad I did because there's a lot of Substantive stuff about music and music history in there. That's absolutely worth reading. Oh I mean, there are a few people on earth that have the kind of legacy knowledge of not only music but popular music and and from Frank Sinatra to Michael Jackson to films. Yeah stuff like that like that dude has done it and Is he a bit of a crazy person? Sure, what what master of their craft isn't kind of exactly Is he full of Quirks of his era like being proud of Sam Smith because he's proud of being gay It's like it's a sweet version of an old man. Yeah, sure statement But man when the first question Leads you to say that Michael Jackson was a drug-addled plagiarist and then you almost effortlessly effortlessly saying into the fact that you know who killed Kennedy confirming the conspiracy that Kennedy was elected in part because of the Chicago mob like Wow, that's before we get into him. Yeah, come for come for that stuff Yeah, stay for the knowledge about Coltrane and how he composed his music and and I had all the other good stuff in there, too and then also the effortless segue from Brazilian music to Marley, all right You know, but that's what makes it entertaining. I mean really. Oh god. No. Oh, yeah There was a tweet. Let me see if I can what are we calling this episode by the way So I wear my sunglasses at night so I can recognize you Twits Twitter's earnings are finally tweet worthy Hashtag profitable is pretty funny Paul Allen shreds Paul Allen shreds Chat mania has not run wild on us You Venmo where you eat? Hashtag profitable the only thing about that is I don't know It look it It looks almost like an ad or something. Ah, you know like for a headline because hashtags are always ads in these days not the way but I mean they often. Yeah, I think I'd pick it up what you're saying By the way, there's now just Quincy Jones memes Just all over Twitter now of like other other revelations that Quincy Jones will randomly drop into conversation I Can't this is a family-friendly broadcast so I can Roger half of them I Wear my sunglasses in it so I can recognize you Because you know the police. Yeah, it's super long. That's my only all right. Um, how about just say Glasses watching you follow the shreds. Yeah, fine Paul Allen shreds Paul Allen shreds is pretty good. All right, it's it's the motion is carried Paul and shreds We his band was called grown men or something. That's right. I was trying to remember that word about his band Grown men. I thought it was like the weirdest thing. He also likes scuba diving for some reason Tell you what that's right. It goes out on his yacht and brings on a bunch of Also like buying TV networks until he didn't well he's slightly aspergy. So when you're on his boat, he controls everything Right. That's not nice to say about people. Yeah. Hey, no. No, I mean, I'm not not in a negative way But like yeah, it's he's it's You know, he's working on his comfort level necessarily other people's I don't know some people might find it here's a Quincy Jones meme Do you want regular or sweet potato fries with that Quincy Jones? You know who else likes sweet potatoes? Who? Quincy Jones Paul Newman had some of them MFers right after we killed a man My brother why what Quincy Jones regular fries Yeah, wait, that really is the tone of that of that interview though Like wait, is he just I'm wondering if he's just doing a lot of it tongue-in-cheek or is he just have you read the interview Roger? You gotta read you gotta read the interview you gotta read the interview. Yeah, this is this is a meme These are all memes of people wrote. Oh, that's a mean. Oh, I thought Yeah, no, he didn't actually say that Me my Chuck Norris thing right, right It's more ridiculous over time and then someone gets a book deal Do you want fries with that is the perfect though, it's it's like superduck his question that just goes off the rails I'm not even gonna read the first part of this meme, but it just ends with Michael Bolton did 9-11. Oh my god That's that's not even funny Zodiac killer, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We draw the line from the Zodiac killer You know what during the time of the Zodiac killer when my dad was Had an apartment building in San Francisco One of the tenants asked him to put up like all sorts of security getting in the back door Sure, that makes sense. I would probably have asked for that, too Um, all right, I can't look at any of these memes I'm crying laughing and trying not to talk about your tears your tears No, but great. Oh, and also we didn't we didn't get his plug in quest TV. He's all right darn it launching a new I'm actually I mean as as as much as it's so out of tone When they get to the plug for quest TV at the end of that article That I want to be dismissive about it. It actually looks pretty interesting Yeah, I mean I think a uh You definitely doesn't really know much about it beyond probably like whatever. Oh, no Quincy Jones has almost nothing to do with the actual product I'm sure other than maybe saying like that's a real good documentary, right? Um, that one gets it right but But yeah It seems right now to be uh it's in beta But uh, uh, it's a a service where you Can not only stream jazz music, but also as a bunch of jazz documentaries and stuff like that so for Yeah, it's it's video on demand for jazz And then it has music element to not just video It's kind of hard to explain. It's kind of brilliant actually In a certain from a certain point of view Oh, sir You know who Ray's mother is I'll tell you who's Ray Ray's paratop Quincy Jones knows He knows notes and he knows things He also, um He also had children with norma Jennings From the double R diner and twin peaks Peggy. Wait, see I don't watch which one which is she's not Rashida's mother, is she? She is. Oh really? Yeah I didn't realize that was that Yeah, how did I never put that together? I don't know I've got all the twin peaks facts. Yeah It's just I'll just keep lobbing them at you guys and and apparently the daughter that was friends with avonka Friends and she was the mother of Norma from twin peaks was the mother of the other daughter. That's not Rashida Who was friends with avonka, which is in the All right A lot of layers. Yeah, I know I get in trouble for leaving those sorts of things out with my editors Isn't it on me? Um also, uh Big shout out to the Cleveland Cavaliers for shit for trading away their entire team today. Yeah, really Yeah, like everybody's gone like 14 players off the team got traded today So is lend for sure gonna be on the show tomorrow that like early just be crying. They traded Uh, everybody including dwayne wade back to miami. Welcome back It's been so long since he went away Two years two or a year and a half. I guess of this bizarre Uh, world where dwayne wade was not wearing the heat jersey Well, brahman didn't get traded away though, right? Uh, no, he's gonna do that the old-fashioned way during the off season Nobody trades lebron I mean to be they're gonna treat the rest of their team and really not get anybody back They might as well have traded lebron to literally get anything back for him Yeah, he can't be pleased with that. I'm sure Well, you know the rumors are that he has one foot out the door already Oh, and this was sort of the the idea was well, you're not gonna stay. We'll just trade everybody off Uh, you well that he's not being consulted Apparently what he wanted was they have one really really really good unprotected pick that they got in the Kyrie Irving trade and he wanted them to not only Move some pieces around on the team now, but also to land another big player to beef up for In the playoffs this year Not only does that not look like it's happening Literally everybody else love that. They're gonna have to gel a new team and hope it's better than the one they have Well, it does. I mean, I'm sure this is not what's going on But if you trade enough people away you move salary does that allow them to sign somebody? If he were to stay Yes Uh, it does not seem that there is a environment being created. I see uh for him It looks as if the Cavaliers are getting a A kickstart on rebuilding Hmm. Well, now I understand why I like Rashida Jones so much I'm glad you all make sense. I'm glad you've Norma revealed this because Norma and Quincy Jones like This is a super person Yeah And Rashida is just great too. She is she's fantastic. She's one of my favorite actors mine too Angie Tribeca is amazing um Yeah, anything, uh A bunch of things you want to leave the uh the youtube stream with No, uh other than don't forget to turn off the twitch stream, which i'm gonna do right now Don't forget that's done and now We can say goodbye to everyone else. Bye. Bye. Bye Goodbye