 And then coming out of Jeff, what do you have to look forward to? Well, I'm not coming out of Jeff. No, I mean, just to generalize. You know, if you were to... Nothing, really. I mean, if you come out of Jeff, you ain't learned nothing. You don't know nothing. I mean, they're little pieces of paper, though. I mean, that's all they do. They're going to pass you, if I don't care if you're retarded. You know, you could be dumb as Ace of Spades. You know, they're going to graduate you anyway. What you going to do with it? What am I going to do with math? What I'm going to do with math, what I'm going to go into is put a police force. That's the academy that I'm going in. You have your police with that. I'm going to try it. What you going to take? I'm going to be a nurse. I'm a male nurse. Yeah? I used to watch television a lot, you know, and all I would see is a white man using guns and out of my feet there, everywhere I turned, you know. They used violence, you know, and wars to win over things, you know. And that's the only way I can see that things could be accomplished. The gentleman was telling me when I said this church thing, he took y'all up in the mountains to Camp Spirit or whatever it was. Camp and Chapman or whatever it was. And you came back, man, and he was... You didn't take it, man? No, it was great. I was here back when I was with you. He was all spiritual and talking about you. You tore up your chairman, you know, that little red book you got by mouth or something, yeah, you tore it up, you tore it up. That red book was gone long time ago, man. Where did you got it? In my case, it wasn't. It's time to get ready to go. The first time I got suspended from school was on March the 7th, 1969. I had to walk out on March the 6th. They protested against the teachers that weren't teaching and books that was made when I was born back in 1954 or so. They can't put this down, these two guys. I... Oh, Lord, everybody. Now what are we playing? Oh, if we play politics, you know they put that out there. I went over to Adams and the students on campus, some students knew me. And they thought I was going to do the same thing over to Adams that happened over at Harvard. I was called in office, latest around the bus security guards, you know, and sent home. They tried to accuse me of burning a flag. Ha, ha, ha. When was that? See, he was trying to get the excuse out of his hands, you know, right? He was going to get it. He was going to mess up the spot. I went over to Ellison for one day. I kicked out over there, staying out of school, you know, for the rest of that school year. And they let me in Jefferson High School, you know, after the summer. They told me I better not be involved with anything on that campus. You ain't got no army, you ain't got no apples. Only got teachers in the world got apples, man. Shit, they ain't got no bombs going on. They need running out there. And I bet you, all right, man, got to do this. Let all the food that you need is going out to the market. Pop, all the food out of the shop right here. You see, that's all you got in your community and around. And then when all the food is going to stop, there's trucks from coming down, they need to be eating each other. You ain't got to do that. I'll spray you a DDT. You better get hip, boy. You better get the buck, man. Get the buck, man. When you start controlling Dow Jones Industrial, you start getting some niggas in the World Bank, you understand? You get some niggas up there in the Western House, and every time the president want to raise the price of gold, you got to call 12 of us in and six of them. Then we're saying something. I have two brothers besides myself. And my stepson, one brother's 21 now. He's in the Marine Corps. There's my twin brother. Actually, man, I'm a future temptation, brother. Remember that. I'm your twin brother, brother. Freddie, you know, he's interested in music. He's been with them for about four or five years now. There's a lot of people that mess with reds in the community, but they usually, you know, take them at night, you know, in that party, and they're really going to parties. I see young brothers and sisters, you know, smoking weed all day, you know, at school, you know, at night, you know, and just about wherever I go, you know, but it gives me, in the daytime, as long as it's small minority of black people, black, young people, you know, that take me there. But they would smoke marijuana. They're planning to make marijuana legal. At first, when marijuana was in the black community, in the Chicano community, they would say, well, just control them, you know. But then, when the white people started seeing white kids, Jews in marijuana, they'd say, hey, this cow going to put my kid in jail, we got to do something about this. They'd say, let me marijuana legal. You know, I want to, I believe, if people want to use it, you know, if they don't get enough, you know, everybody will, you know, it's them. I guess I'm just this type of person, you know, I don't like to get in no kind of position why I can't even play properly. Something take effect on me that I'll understand is a feeling, you know, I just can't stand it. I tried it, you know, three times. You know, I wasn't myself, and it seemed like I couldn't come back to myself right then. I guess I wasn't used to it, and I was kind of scared of it in a way. Whatever it is that you feel that, not only that you're having problems with, but that you want to learn, come on and do research. You can go find out about it, and you can take all of that back. And you ain't got to bait the teacher and gone, well, you wrong, you know, I'm not like this, that and the other on you, you know, because he's going to get all weird on you from a mental thing, and won't send you to the VP's office for being smart. The Outline College Community Center program was set up to get teachers and students, you know, together, get them to know one another, you know. Our education program in the school, this office falling down. Secondly, when you youngsters try to help yourself, you're not even getting school teachers to come here to help you. So these things ought to be examined. Why is this solved? Okay, do you think you're as smart as, probably one of the white students out in Hollywood? Have you ever came to contact with a white student on your same age, but, yeah. They were, you know, think I'm just dumb. There's so many things wrong with schools over here in the years. Black students in my school, they came up, you know, from elementary school, junior high school, and I'll say half of them, you know, don't know how to read. You know, they should have been taught those things in elementary and junior high school, and they wasn't, you know, and it's hard for them to go through a high school, and they're not really learning anything. I first came in contact with some VISTA workers up at Avalon College Community Center. They had just rented a building in the community, and they wanted to know, what could they open a building for? We discussed what we wanted to speak, and we just moved to be, you know, what we wanted to have in this building. We came up with some ideas with things we could do in the community, you know, using this book. If young people got, you know, a wrap up of movies, you know, had trouble at school with administrators and other teachers, they could, you know, come here and talk to someone. I found myself going to meetings up at South Park, and they had other organizations up there, you know, Black Panther Party, and they was passing us some little red books, you know, coaching them, so I picked up one of these books and started going through it, and I began to see that statement in there, and political power grows at the end of a gun, girl. It began to stick with me. I read in the paper that they made a brother, an admiral, one brother. One brother, they made him an admiral. You understand me? Well, everybody get happy. They probably had it on KGFJ this week, you know. The guy started off as a post office clerk. He worked his way up after 74 years in the Navy. They made him an admiral. He was making progress. 74 years. That's what it is. Progress. So you are full. How long has that progress, man? Wait a minute, what did you say? You just said a few minutes ago. Nobody made me mad when you said how much progress. No, you just said, how you gonna make progress, man? How you gonna make progress, man? We changed the society in our community. We have, we don't have guns and machines and all this type of stuff. You gonna infiltrate the police department? No, I didn't. Ron, you just, I was talking about the admiral. It wasn't the admiral's job. It wasn't the admiral's job yet. I think this guy here, he's gonna command three ships up in Alaska. You see? He's gonna make sure that the Russians don't steal all the tuna. All the water. You see that picture up there in the wall, man? Every time I look at that picture, you know, I wanna curse my brother out about that, man. I'll say, okay, he came on the other day. You know, I just asked. Is that necessary, you know? Okay. He said, yeah, you know, it is necessary. You know, we don't want communism to take over this country. So I said, hey, man, regardless, you know, you got all those people, you know, in that hole over there. I said, hey, man, don't you think we should, you know, stay in our country and try to do something in this country to straighten up everything instead of trying to go out and fight somebody else's war? They're going to be killing off a lot of innocent people, man. To me, a revolutionary is the person who wants change by either peaceful means or violent means, if necessary. They have more out-of-wats than they had before that, right? You know, I noticed white people was beginning to focus on what's wanting to find out what's going on and what's the problem, you know? What do these people want over there? And they were beginning to do something because they were scared. They didn't want it to happen again. That's why I believe violence worked there. The Black Panther Party started off about every little youngster seemed to want to be a Black Panther hero. But it seems like now, you know, they're fighting against each other. See, the police thought of a police department. Y'all are not used to that language. So are you a police department? No, see, everybody has the money to work here for some money. That's right. Everybody has money to pay. That's just incredible, man. The dog, whatever you want to call it, the police department has the peace. And, you know, they didn't, uh, they ripped off all the Black Panther leaders, man. So the ones who's there, you know, yeah, they did good followings and they're not leaders, man. See, they stopped the free workers program. You just said they had all the leaders, baby. That's all they needed. I know they didn't even go to dinner, but get ripped off again. Send the prisoner and get shot in the stomach. How far can we go? You've got to. You've got to start somewhere. Give me a minute, baby. We've been starting that whole fight. We've been starting all types of places, man. Started. Started. Started. Started. Started. Five or six people were trapped up in the building, shooting, you know. And whatever, the Panther was right out of tune. He thought I was something bigger, you know. I even seen the teen girl in the street. The police department, you know. When I went down to the Panther office a couple of days later, you know, they helped clean out the building. I don't want to say I had to wear a gas mask because my police car came around and a man got up out of the car and said that this was an awful assembly, you know. They started beating the heads again. And one of the sisters that was out there was Angela Davis. From that incident, I realized that we can't use a gun. If we pick up, you know, a 45, if you don't pick up, you don't use a tank. So I guess we just... I guess I want to be myself, be somebody new, you know. That's what I'm saying. Ah, yeah, he's like Malcolm X. I won't say he's like Teddy Gibson. Whatever that is, you know. Come out to the house of God. And as we come, Master, we do that it's no business of our own. But it's by the grace of God that Thou have brought us this far. We pray, Master, for the blessing upon each and every one that is in the field.