 It's over to Catherine Gaffney. Good morning Catherine. Good morning Greg, a requirement for children to wear masks in primary schools will be considered by Neffat when it meets this morning. The use of masks among people attending larger crowded events will also be looked at. However, it will be next week before health officials consider if further restrictions are needed. Donegal County Council will spend over 162 million euro next year, almost 5% more than the figure for 2021. Councilers will meet online today for the authority's annual budget meeting after plans to hold the meeting in the Aura Ledger Centre were dropped last week. Donald Kavanaugh has more. Chief Executive John McLaughlin says the budget will focus on a number of key themes. They include the maintenance and improvement of houses, roads and other key infrastructure, support for economic development and job creation, and strengthening the Donegal brand as a location for investment and tourism. He said the council is also preparing a pipeline of plans for housing, roads, public realm improvements, recreation and leisure, and job creation infrastructure that will be supported in the budget. Finance Officer Richard Gibson says the budget has increased from just over 155,285 million in 2021 to an estimated 162,303 million in the draft budget for 2022. The draft budget includes a new 350,000 euro fund to initiate a pilot project for infrastructure in council housing estates, as well as capacity to ensure that co-funding requirements are available for all projects currently underway. The council also says it will maintain levels of funding across its services in 2022. Emergency services are currently at the scene of a crash in the outskirts of Letterkenny. The collision happened shortly after 8am in the Drumkeen area. Traffic is currently moving freely and there are no further details at this stage. And holiday home owners affected by Micah are being urged to come forward with their stories. Campaigners are hopeful the proposals for the long-awaited Micah redress scheme will finally be ready by next Tuesday following several delays. The proposals are due to be brought before Cabinet on 30th November following weeks of negotiations. However, it is unclear whether holiday home owners will be included in the enhanced scheme. Micah Action Group PRO Michael Doherty says it's vital people with secondary homes in Donegal or elsewhere affected by Micah have their voices heard. Weather now. Today there will be sunny spells and well-scattered showers. Cloud will increase later in the day bringing more frequent showers by evening. It will be another cold day with highest afternoon temperatures of 5 to 7 degrees. We're back with more 10. Until then, good morning. With a bow. You're a Hawkeye. What the hell are you? Some people have actually called me the world's greatest archer. It's kind of a stretch. In a brand new six-part original series. Shouldn't we be worried? No. I'll be able for Christmas. I promise. Christmas never felt so good. It's going to be the best Christmas ever. Marvel Studios Hawkeye. First two episodes streaming soon only on Disney Plus. 18 plus subscription required. Teas and seas apply. Today's Nine Till Noon Show is brought to you in association with Ulster Tires. Are your tires ready for winter? Call in to Ulster Tires in Latter-Canney and Bali Buffet today. And now it's time for the talk of the Northwest. The Nine Till Noon Show with Greg Hughes on Highland Radio. Good morning. Five past nine Thursday the 25th of November and you welcome along to another edition of the Nine Till Noon Show. A busy three hours for you, but we want to hear what you've to say. The issues you want to raise, the topics you want to talk about. How do you do that? Well, you WhatsApp us on 086625,000. That's the text number as well. 086625,000. If you're outside the Republic, 0035386625,000. Your telephone calls into us now, please, to Makayla on 0749125,000. And if you want to watch this program and contribute there, head on to our YouTube page, Highland Radio Ireland or Facebook page forward slash Highland Hub or Highland Radio News and Sport. You can watch the program in its entirety and interact with us there as well. And finally, comments at highlandradio.com. Right, let's look at the papers Thursday. Lots out. We'll start with the Dairy People, Donegal News this morning. And a West Donegal community is mourning following the tragic death of a local man in Manchester. George Tracy, who was 57, died after a work related incident on Tuesday night. He leaves his partner Sheila Duffy and their six children, Michael, Sinead, Laura, Katie, Georgie and Ellie, and native of Mahari. George was living in Ardvine Crawley with Sheila and his family. He had been working as a lorry driver for Martin Boyle-Hawledge, Operateur Guido for four years. And it's clear from people's reaction to that awful news that it was an incredibly popular man and will be greatly, greatly missed. A terribly sad story altogether there. The Donegal Democrats leads with a health story. More than 22,000 patients are on waiting lists at Letter Kenney University Hospital. Figures presented to the Health Service Executives Regional Health Forum West this week show waiting lists at record levels. The figures were released following separate questions from Donegal members of the forum, Councillor Kieran Brogan and Councillor Jerry Crawford. And the figures are there listed on the front of that paper. It makes for grim enough reading, it has to be said. The Finn Valley voice this morning, notwithstanding challenging times, Donegal County Council's draft budget for 2022 has been drawn up to ensure sufficient funds to deliver required services for County Donegal. The draft budget proposes expenditure of 162 million plus, a 7 million increase on last year. The budget meeting will be held at 10am today, the 25th of November. The pandemic has put huge pressure on all of society and has created many challenges for us as a County and indeed across the world. Some of the remarks there from Chief Executive John G. McLaughlin will have full coverage of that meeting for you, of course, throughout the day on our news bulletins. Donald Kavanaugh monitoring that for you as he has many, many, many budgets over the course of the years. And we'll preview it a little bit as well later on this morning. The Dairy News today, vandals target Dairy's Christmas illuminations. People literally must have absolutely nothing to contribute or to actually do because extra police patrols have been introduced in Dairy City Centre in an attempt to prevent vandals targeting the town's Christmas illuminations. It follows the vandalism and tampering of Christmas trees, including Ireland's tallest, standing at 60 feet in Guild Hall Square. Thousands attended the switch on off the illuminations on Sunday night last. The move by police follows multiple reports of damage to baubles and people climbing and crawling inside the trees. Dairy and Sturan District Council is urging the public to be respectful of the Christmas displays in the city. We just can't have nice things, can we? As soon as we do, people have to interfere. It seems, and you know, this decision might actually mask other failings and it is upon, but it's not intended to be funny, because Nefert are sure to, because I see the change in their language, they're sure to recommend the wearing of masks for children in primary schools. Now, obviously this is in the absence of contact tracing and other supports and what have you. What do you think about this? The proposals that your young people in national school may have to wear masks now. There might be more or an equal amount of you out there who believe it is a good thing. We want to hear from everyone. Obviously people who are opposed to it, very vocal, will be very vocal in that, but let's hear it from all of you. What do you think? Because as I say, I'd be pretty astonished. I noticed Nefert changed their language very recently to say, well, you know how Nefert were constantly saying it's not really spreading in schools. Let's see what they actually did say here, if I can find it, because they have changed the language somewhat. They said that we never said schools a safe environment. We said they are lower risk. Now, is that your interpretation of what CMO, Deputy CMO McGlynn and Tony Hoolen have been saying that we never said schools are a safe environment? That's a direct quote. We said they are lower risk technically, right? Technically, that could be correct, but you know yourself, you know how the language was related to us. Is it really? Some members of Nefert believe such a move, masking children in national school, would help stem the rise in infections in younger children, though the government does not intend to introduce any new restrictions this week. If a recommendation is made by Nefert, it is likely to be considered by government next week. Latest figures show that primary school age children now have the highest COVID-19 incidence of any age group with some 10,000 positive cases in the past fortnight. Now that is regrettable, but the bottom line is is it might not be the worst thing either. It should never have been allowed, run through the schools. I think most people might feel, but when you see the cases being announced every evening, you know, if a lot of those are young people, we don't want anyone getting it, right? And they are not, you know, completely bulletproof though. Serious illness is incredibly, incredibly rare. It does mean that it might not have as big of an impact on the hospitals down the line, and it is good to see that the number in hospital has fallen again. Down 120 over the course of four or five days, and the figure at Lettokennie University Hospital has reduced as well. I think it might be down to 13 overnight, which is welcome to see figures going in that direction. At the same time, 575 in hospital. Now 13, as I mentioned in Lettokennie, nine in Slago, and the ICU numbers are steady. So if a lot of these cases that are being counted at the moment are in young people, hopefully then maybe it won't lead to hospitalisations. But a report from the Health Protection Surveillance Centre also notes that the infection rate for primary school aged children has been rising since mid-October, but the risk of transmission within a school still remains low. While public health advisers have suggested to government that much of the infection among children is coming from parents rather than in schools. Come on now. Right Irish Independent, what age were you when you were able to build your house, if you were lucky enough to be able to do so? Were you able to do it in your early 20s, maybe even mid 20s, late 20s? Well now just a quarter of first-time buyers, and this is not builders, but buyers are aged under 30. People have happened to wait much later in life to get on the property ladder. The vast majority of first-time buyers are now over the age of 30 in a major reversal of previous trends in the Irish Independent. The sheer cost of homes and the difficulties for younger workers with lower earnings in qualifying for mortgages means new buyers are getting older. This is a reversal from the situation that prevailed for years. New figures from the Banking and Payments Federation are in show. Now is that absolutely the case? Is it possible and I wondered if they look into it. Could there be a trend to younger people maybe not wanting to over commit to a particular area or to a particular country? Could it be that whilst it is incredibly expensive, incredibly difficult to get on the property ladder under 30, I wondered if this study would take into a fact that maybe is there a change in attitude? Maybe the obsession with home ownership is waning a little bit. In 2004 fewer than a third of first-time buyers were over the age of 30, but by the first half of this year, three-quarters of new buyers were over 30. So as you can see the shift there. The trochanal tribune today as the county council meets to consider the revenue budget for 2022, commercial rates and local property tax will make up close to 40% of the funding needed to keep essential services running. John McIntyre writes that despite councillors and management meeting on Monday to appraise the potential for consensus, it remains to be seen if all members will vote in favour of the budget. Wouldn't all want to vote in favour because I think there are those that will abstain in any case aren't there. The budget meeting due to take place at the Oral Leisure Centre has moved online due to Covid, said the council on Tuesday. The revenue budget of 162.3 million is 4.5% higher than the current year, which stands at 155.285 million. The farmers journal tells us that the 20% clawback on the sale of cap entitlements without land could be set aside under new proposals from the Department of Agriculture. The new measures could affect close to 30,000 farmers. The proposals aim to encourage a shift in entitlements through sale of increased long-term leasing from armchair farmers to active farmers and there's more details as you imagine and it's always wedged that paper. It's not a bit wonder it is one of those papers that is growing because there's so much in it out in every way. You're very interested in farming, I mean it must just be like God knows what. The Irish Daily Mail today, in England they're seeing quite a reduction in cases and deaths because they've rolled out the booster vaccine to those who want it. It's a booster at the Fina Four Parliamentary Party meeting. That's what it's called over there. At the Finnegale Parliamentary Party meeting, it's called a third dose because the overall coblies, this is a three dose vaccine. So you've got one party of government calling it a booster, the other calling it a third dose, but no booster for those aged over 50 before Christmas for those who would take it or want it. And while there are hopes at government level, the lockdown could still be avoided. Tarnishedly over at Corset last night, the current COVID-19 wave appears to be plateauing at a worryingly high level. The situation comes as the National Health Service is grappling on multiple fronts due to the surge in COVID-19, which I would say is probably more to do with the problems in the hospital service pre COVID-19. The PCR testing, no PCR testing was available in 23 counties last night, but we have over 700 spaces in Donegal. Now of course for much of the county, there is testing in South Donegal in Donegal town, but for people all over in Ishawn, West Donegal, North West Donegal, you have to go to Lettercanny and it's one of those places that has a ton of capacity. Now we heard from the person who runs it who suggested that people might book in the morning and it kind of fills up by evening time and they're saying that they're doing as much testing as they have ever done. But are we seeing genuine in less of it here or is it too much of a hassle to go and get tested because even if you're test negative and you've still got symptoms, they do say to you, you know, don't self isolate until your 48 hours post symptoms. I wonder what the story is in Donegal. Hopefully we had the fourth wave early because it's good to see the 14 and seven day rate falling again in Donegal after a slight peak over the weekend. The star today, TV leader Jim Allister has said he's very sorry that a statement of condolence he made following the death of David Tweed has added to the hurt felt by his victims. Allister said his motives had been misconstrued and it did not condone pedophilia in any way. Tweed, a former Irish rugby international in DUP and TUV politician died in a crash in Antrim last month. He was convicted of child sex offences in 2012 and sentenced to eight years in prison. He was released in 2016 after his convictions were quashed due to the way the jury had been directed following Tweed's death. His stepdaughter Amanda Brown said he was a pedophile and a violent thug and challenged politicians who put out complimentary statements in the wake of his death. We are all worried, aren't we, about the rising cost of running our cars, heating our homes. Nine out of 10 of us, in fact, according to a survey in the Irish Daily Mirror, no surprise here. Nine out of 10 of us are worried about the cost of heating and electricity this winter. 80% are concerned about petrol and diesel prices. 79 find themselves scrimping to find enough money to buy groceries. Sinn Féin's social protection spokesperson analysed the research from 14,000 respondents to her survey and found the jump in prices hitting hard. 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Deputy McLaughlin will be joining us shortly, but I want to say good morning first to Michael Kingston, international maritime lawyer from County Cork. Michael, good morning to you. Thanks for joining us. Good morning, Greg. Can you hear me okay? Yes, perfectly, thank you. Right, can you tell us what happened on this day and why we're talking about it? In other words, what concerns have been raised? Well, I mean, unfortunately, the concerns that apply to the sad tragedy that took place off Port Roanen on the 17th of July 2018 aren't exclusive to Port Roanen and that tragedy. The issues are part of an overall failure of the investigation of intermaritime tragedy in Ireland and I'll get to that at a minute, Greg, but specifically in relation to Port Roanen, as people will be aware, Johnny Gould, three people went out for an innocent fishing trip on the 17th of July 2018 and unfortunately, only one of them returned to a boy of 16, Thomas Weir and Mr. Gerard Darkety died, unfortunately, and Desi Keenan survived and there were very serious failures on the day in relation to the rescue and then following the tragedy, there was a Marine Casualy Investigation Board report. That was issued and unfortunately, Marine Casualy Investigation Board reports should not attribute any fault or blame but the national media picked up on the issue and the headlines were in the Irish Times. Men who drowned could not effectively indicate distress, investigation finds. Well, that's not actually correct because a mobile phone distress was picked up and wasn't acted upon so it's factually incorrect and the other headline in RTE was crew and boat tragedy did not plan sufficiently and I would like to put it on record that Mr. Gerard Darkety and Mr. Desi Keenan were safety conscious on the 17th of July 2018. They took more precautions than hundreds of other pleasure craft users that I witnessed off the coast of County Cork and I'm sure the situation is similar in Donnie Gawlen across Ireland. They had an anchor, spare fuel, they had a spare emergency outboard, they had two batteries and jump leads and they weren't aware of what is known as the voluntary code of practice that many previous Marine Casualy Investigation Board reports have identified as a problem in the pleasure craft industry and they continuously issue what are called marine notices which are useless because they do not reach pleasure craft users and several investigators have recommended they should be mandatory and they never acted upon those. So how would that work? Sorry just explain that to us Michael. If that were enacted what would happen? Well it would mean Greg that if you wanted to go out or anyone listening to this program in a boat which many of us do I could buy a boat from you today and just go down to letter Kenny and take the boat out and I should be in compliance with a voluntary code of practice but that only works if I know about the code of practice and most people don't know about the code of practice and the report criticised the boat operators for not having a VHF and not having X, Y and Z from code of practice had it been mandatory and had they known about it they would have had these other requirements on board but they were failed by the state because the department did not act on previous recommendations that that code of practice should be mandatory. But it seems findings were made and there was a commentary as if that had been enacted on then is that also a problem here? Well no there's a commentary that they did not that it had been enacted upon but that it was sort of taken as read that they should know about it when it is well known that pleasure craft users do not know about this code of practice which is the very reason why it should be mandatory basic training. But of course there's a larger problem here which is where Patrick Lachlan comes in and the deliberations in the EROCTUS in that Marine Casualy Investigation Board has been contrary to international regulation and we had two department civil servants on the board who were effectively investigating their own regulation and not analysing it properly from the Department of Transport and there's a judgment against Ireland for the European Court of Justice which has found that Ireland has been illegally that the board was illegally constituted and that we haven't been investigating maritime tragedies correctly and in some cases not at all in the fishing community. Can I take you back to the two headlines that you referenced there because obviously you know firstly all reports should be true but primarily I presume this added great pain and hurt to families already going through an incredible difficult time. Is that a failure of reporting or were they reporting accurately the findings of the inquest? Well no it's not an inquest the inquest hasn't taken place yet it's the arm of the state that looks into maritime tragedy and its purpose is to find out what happens so that it doesn't happen again and not to attribute any fault or blame but yes it is a problem because what we have here is a system in Ireland where we have an investigative system with no proper funding part-time investigators and through no fault of their own they can't do a proper job unlike aviation and rail the aviation unit has funding in 2019 of 750,000 full-time investigators rail has 350,000 and marine investigators in the field 2,700 six deaths sorry 27,000 euros six deaths 2,700 per death you cannot carry out a proper investigation with such a paltry amount of money is there any explanation as to that because you know thankfully you know maybe a light aircraft going down is very very rare but we'd all know how it's reported instantly people are on the scene you know you might even have people from aircraft the aircraft investigating team doing interviews you know preliminary interviews with the with the media that the aircraft is then taken away major investigation is there do we know why there's such a difference between how we would investigate a light aircraft going down versus a boat or is it because if you scale up the cost because we see more of this at sea is it a financial issue really is what I'm trying to get out of why why would we treat things so differently there well I mean I'm sure that podrick McLaughlin will comment on this in a minute given the good work that he's doing with the maritime community but there's a simple answer that if there's an aviation incident it is sensationalized in the media whereas the poor fisherman who who drowns or the incident in in port ronan is sort of you know a quick word on on the back end of a news of a news channel and the unfortunately our state where maritime issues are concerned it's out of sight out of mind when it should be at the forefront of of everything that we do given the importance of of maritime issues to to Ireland and it's a fundamental failing of of the Irish state the funding just simply has not been provided for the maritime community we fail to implement so much international regulation we breach this regulation into investigations we don't have a proper investigative system and if we don't fix and analyze tragedies properly we can't save life going forward so it is a fundamental failing of the of the Irish state and which is why the TDs and I am working closely with them are working so hard to make sure that we get this bill right that's currently going through the rocked us all right deputy podrick McLaughlin as you mentioned you have picked up this issue working on this issue tell me I'm adding on to what we've just heard from Michael what problems you see and where we need to be going well you've asked some pertinent questions Greg and I think that's I said this yesterday in the Dall I think the lack of resourcing for the marine casualty investigation board and the way that it's been constituted with department officials essentially investigating themselves reflects the wider malaise when it comes to our coastal communities and think about this Greg we are the only island nation in the European Union the only island nation surrounded by water and if you look if you speak to any fishermen across our coast and ask them do they feel supported nurtured by the department of the marine they'll tell you the total opposite and I think that's what's happened here in terms of the investigations reflects the wider culture and attitude towards our fishing communities and our marine communities I mean if you look at the resource and provided to aviation investigations to rail investigations compared to this and if it wasn't for the work of Michael Kingston and some others this would continue on you know it takes people who who are experts who know the failings to expose it now in terms of this family you know Greg like they they were devastated by the headlines nationally they've seen it as victim blaming just so we're clearing that where did that information because maybe the question I asked was a little bit clumsy where would they have sourced that information if we haven't had an inquest yet where would they be able to determine about preparedness or you know because I can't imagine that any of those journalists that were from those two outlets that were mentioned went out of the way to sort of misrepresent the situation so who gave them likely that information I can answer that Greg yes it's it's it's the marine casualty investigation board report was issued right okay in I think it was November 2020 well that's of course yes so the whole emphasis of the findings did not reflect some of the failings of the state that I have explained to you and the failure to the it doesn't analyze the previous recommendations and so the weight of the reading of the report puts too much of an emphasis on what the victim of what the crew did in relation to a code of practice that they didn't know about and in any event was irrelevant because they made a mobile phone call and it wasn't acted upon so the state failings are not at the top of the report and the media picked up on the faults of the crew Jared Doherty and Desi Keenan which were not the causative causes of the event on the day Michael thanks for that clarification because I think that's really very important carry on there Deputy McLaughlin yeah thanks thanks Greg I mean if you look at Jerry Doherty I mean it's a particular tragedy here because Jerry's father Polly had drowned many years earlier when Jerry himself was just a teenager and as Michael has said Thomas we're who died in this tragedy was a teenager just the trauma for this family is intergenerational trauma and it's important to say this that's that this the this family an extended family of the two victims have serious questions that remain unanswered and they're looking for the casual investigation board to cooperate fully with the inquest that's taking place at the moment that needs to happen and they have every right to challenge the board on their findings at that in quest that needs to happen but I want to say this Greg is that this tragedy isn't the only I mean there are other drownings and other incidents where boats went down around the coast the only gall or families have very serious questions about what how that happened and the failings of investigations are ongoing for many years so as Michael says if we do not learn from tragedies and then have recommendations that are fully implemented then people die unnecessarily so that's a very important point but in this case the families I feel you know are deeply hurt at the presentation of what happened and they say it is victim blaming whereas Michael who's an expert in this area has outlined very clearly they were not at fault for what happened to them yeah you know I mean I can only imagine what they must be going through so there's two things here the the the case that we've been talking on that needs to be looked at but it's also about ensuring I think as both of you have mentioned that we have reform going forward full reform of the board full reform of its practices or at least partial reform is that what you're calling for and is there a will to work with you uh in the dull on that uh definitely with Glockland yeah I think thanks to Michael's work like Michael presented uh uh you know at a committee earlier this year and on a cross-party basis people were really you know taken with his testimony um with his experts input and the need for change so there definitely is a desire on a cross-party basis the the challenge now will be for the government as as often the case Greg to stand up to vested interests to stand up to department officials to make sure the necessary change happens when we talk of vested interests you know I mean without getting us into trouble like who would who would oppose this well I can answer that for you Greg um with with some specific issues that are actually quite incredible in the workings of democracy in the Irish state and in my opening statement the ruptus on the 29th of of January um I said that it was a democratic deficit and there was such area issues of ethics in public office that the ruptus need to look into it an independent investigative unit based on best practice was recommended in a 1998 report um policy review group report because of the manner in which tragedies had been um dealt with by the Irish state in the decades before that and particular emphasis was placed on empathy for families and having a proper investigation that was 23 years ago 23 years ago when we set up the marine casual investigation board under the merchant shipping investigation of marine casualties act we went against the findings of the policy review group did not have an independent board and put our chief surveyor who sets regulation in Ireland and the secretary general of the department on the board effectively investigating their own regular regulation each and every time there's an incident the regulatory surrounding of the incident is critical was it fit for purpose was it um enforced properly and what needs to happen going um going forward these are issues that are now pertinent to the keen and undaughty um investigation and the failures that I've outlined in 2010 um a ministerial order was made by minister Noel Dempsey that an independent investigative unit should be uh established so again 12 um years later and um so on the basis of a report by barrister Roshin Lacy with draft heads of bill it was buried by the department the international casual investigation code came into play and then it was had to be enforced in Ireland and we transposed via European directive and in 2011 we signed off um the minister for transport signed off on the incorrect imposition of the international regulation that basically made it mandatory to have no um civil servants on the board we ignored it and continued um um as is illegally until the European Commission then brought a case against Ireland in 2015 we fought that case for five years costing the Irish taxpayer millions an indefensible position and then had a judgment against Ireland and the legislation now that is being put through the door has been forced upon the government on the basis of reprehensible behavior so when you ask um um paudric you know what the vested interests are the sim simple answer is the state since the state officials have not been held to account for their deliberate failures to fix this and the consequences have been unnecessary death across this state up and down this country um because we did not fix the system we did not learn from tragedies um when it was the obvious thing to do and now during this legislative process um the committee has forced the department to carry out a review because they still won't create an investigative unit which was debated in the door yesterday and on a cross-passing basis the minister for state hilly garden opton was slated for this failed legislation a report by captain clinch was carried out during this process it came in in july 2021 it is again recommending an independent investigative unit and the department will not disclose the report because it for legal reasons and and it's being buried why they're trying to push through this failed legislation so they are the vested interests a failure of the irish state that has caused death and it's symptomatic of the systematic failures that cause the death of the crew of rescue 116 okay powerful stuff michael thank you very much for explaining that to us i really appreciate and thanks for joining us this morning i'd just like to thank Greg um paudric bedlockland for his enormous work and while i have the chance and one thing i would like to all say today very importantly is to extend my deepest sympathies to the family and friends of willy glacken of valley gorman malin hedge who um was laid to rest on monday after a relative short illness willy's daughter lane is my next door neighbor here in gollien where her mother mary um is from and mary and willy have a house here and he was an extremely lovely man highly respected in gollien and our community send their thoughts and prayers to mary and the black and family and their friends in donnie gall right lovely okay thank you very much indeed uh depotty bedlockland thank you for joining us unless there's anything you need to add no thanks as you see michael it's a total authority on this issue we're lucky to have them okay thank you very much indeed depotty podre bedlockland there it's um an eye opener isn't it you know um it's a very useful conversation very educational for me in any case um 08 6 60 25 000 your whatsapps and texts that number uh give us a call to an 07 491 25 000 today's nine told nuncho is brought 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to have you with us now over 200 census immune enumerators are to be hired in donnie golfer census 2022 this is a delayed census isn't it yes the census was postponed from uh april of last year and it's taking out of this year actually it was due to take place last april and it's going to take place on the third of april 2022 okay so um the application uh online application system is open from today uh who can apply for these positions um well anyone can apply once they're over 18 years of age and resident in arland so people from all walks of life actually apply from retirees up to students and parents you know working at home uh it could be somebody who has maybe not been in the workforce for a while and wants to um get their confidence back again we've actually such an example on our website of somebody from donnie gol who actually was an enumerator it is so hard to say i agree in 2011 i did that perfectly you spotted that did you well that ends statistics they're really too anyway census enumerator she uh jones she's on our census website if you want to read her case study she actually uh i think she went back into the workforce as a census enumeration in 2011 and then came back as a census field supervisor in 2016 and is now a regional supervisor in 2022 so um in terms of uh you know how much time is required do you need a vehicle for uh rural enumeration that's even harder to say um you do need uh the use of a car and a full driving license and i'd imagine probably lots of donnie gold would be uh fairly rural but if you were had um an enumeration would have an area of 400 homes to uh deliver and collect census forms to and from so if that area is in a town then and you can walk then you don't need a car but if it's a rural area you will need the use of a car and a full driving license as well okay and this might i know it sounds like i'm i'm i'm picking but i'm not someone might a 19 year old might have the use of their parents car as the parent could be driving do you actually have to have your own vehicle and your own license no you do have to have a full license okay but the use of a car so it doesn't have to be your own okay he understands and how much time would be required what kind of commitment would be needed well it's a very flexible job it's for it's 10 weeks contract first of all from the end of february to early may and it's about 22 hours per week and you can it's flexible so you can fit those hours again in against your own schedules so uh it's it would suit lots of people in that that case it's a short term and within that as well it's flexible hours and you can earn up to 3000 euro for your 10 week contract right so someone who's actually already in full-time employment although it would be nice to see maybe those uh who who actually need the work getting it theoretically they can also apply yes they can they can if they can fit it into their schedules they can yes yeah and in grail took theories as well we would be hoping to get irish speakers what kind of um um i asked about the time commitment didn't i yeah what what skills are required you know what i mean like is there a particular educational background or anything that that would give people um an advantage no not really uh just as i said once you're over 18 years of age resident in ireland and you know you can um have a good command of the english language and obviously you need uh or we would love you to have a good good speaking irish for the grail took areas um just that you're a people person you're quite happy to knock on people's doors and you know you're the smiling face of the census you're the public face the census you're it's a really important job for the census we could not do it without you that you're you know you're happy to engage with people happy to return uh maybe more than once to some people's homes to meet the householder in order to deliver the form to them and then return afterwards to collect them so you do need an element of working on your own as well and being uh having some organizational skills you know to make sure that you plan your route and plan that you do get the best success rate from the area that you're i'll say that word again enumerating okay so there's already been quite a bit of interest applications are open from today it runs till the third of december but i think you're keen to see people apply as early as is possible it's a 10 week commitment i think you mentioned around about 22 hours uh per week and the uh income from that in an around uh 3000 euro good uh a good little feather in the cap for your cv or whatever it might be as well too i imagine cathleen yeah it would and uh it is a great way as well if you just want to get back into the workforce it's a good it's great confidence boost and just to say as well um we the you apply on census.ie that's the just you know put in census.ie into the the search box and uh bring up the the website and the apply now button is there and it's it's you can proceed from there um and just as well just to say that you will be fully trained um there's lots of training provided you'll be provided all the equipment you need your satchel your hive is best and you have a smartphone as well but you'll get lots of training and there's lots of support during the 10 weeks you're not left on your own then you have a field supervisor you can contact you have fellow enumerators in your area that you can contact you know if you have any queries or something you're not sure about and you've also got the backup of census uh HQ as well because we we're always there to help as well so i wouldn't like people to think that they get their training and then they'll also go do do you know yeah yeah and finally it's an important job uh census are important things they absolutely are i mean we need the we need to know about ourselves we need the information for all the services that we all need from a new crash in your areas maybe to people the aging population do we need more nursing homes do we need sporting facilities you know there's it's needed the the information is really important and it's available at community level which is even more important so it's so important for all of us i mean you and we can compare you know the information from 2016 to the information that'll come out in 2020 from the 2022 census back to 2011 and you can see trends and know well we definitely need this there's lots of primary school kids who definitely need a secondary school and you know it's and i'm even in one example in one area of donny goll the uh future of a community hospital will be determined by the findings of of of the next census you know for the most part so it it has a big impact in in so many in so many different ways okay listen completely thank you for your time this morning um people go online now census.ie um the light it's actually open now isn't it notes from the 25th but has uh our applications open as we speak right now yeah it opened at nine o'clock this morning and uh we're doing well so far so i would advise people to apply early yeah okay and uh yeah okay thank you for your time all right take care of yourself thank you okay that's your thing uh 10 weeks from February you'd earn about 3200 gross plenty of training and all that kind of stuff you need really to be a full license holder have your own car but anyone over 18 and up to any maximum um census.ie that's where you go for more info today's nine till noon show is brought to you in association with ulster tires get your tires winter ready drop in to ulster tires in letter kenny and balibufay today i a ticket i a ticket in highland radios mega draw to win a car win a car get your ticket by november 30th and automatically enter an extra draw before the big draw big draw one lucky winner will walk away with two thousand euro imagine that's christmas all wrapped up christmas the draw will take place on wednesday december first on 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it's going to become very windy tonight as fresh to strong and gusty westerly winds gradually developed with gales on on north and northwestern coasts and there'll be widespread sherry rain too it'll be coldest early in the night with minimum temperatures of one to five degrees not quite batten down the hatches whether but uh not a million miles away from it either uh hi greg can you talk about this storm and snow on the way it takes away loads of illness headcolds flue etc and no it's not covid right okay i think we are talking about the weather later aren't we we have a weather expert on would you believe to talk about the weather because you know we might see a little bit of snow on erigle but weather sells papers and creates clicks so sometimes the actual threat of snow and how much we'll see is amplified is slightly exaggerated because people love to click and read and listen about that stuff so we're going to have a weather forecasting expert on with us to get down into the ins 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service facility call us today on 07491 13296 connect hearing connecting you to life live on air online and on the highland radio app this is highland radio news o'clock good morning i'm catherine gaffney the social protection minister says there are no plans to reopen the pandemic unemployment payment heather humphrey says the number of people on the live register has actually fallen in the last week that is despite the hospitality sector reporting a big drop-off in business since the midnight curfew was introduced heather humphrey says that isn't translating to job losses at the moment the department has not seen an increase in applications for job seekers payments over the last week and in fact the uh opposite has happened and the numbers on the live register have actually fallen to approximately 165,000 this week so this does not point to any significant layoffs as a result of the midnight closing time primary school children could be asked to wear face masks as part of measures being considered by naffet health officials who meet this morning will also look at whether masks should be required at large or crowded events an early one in every hundred children tested positive for covid-19 last week donnie god county council will spend over 162 million euro next year almost five percent more than the figure for 2021 counselors will meet online this morning for the authority's annual budget meeting after plans to hold the meeting in the or ledger center were dropped this week donal kavana has more chief executive john mclochland says the budget will focus on a number of key themes they include the maintenance and improvement of houses roads and other key infrastructure support for economic development and job creation and strengthening the donnie gall brand as a location for investment and tourism he said the council is also preparing a pipeline of plans for housing roads public realm improvements recreation and leisure and job creation infrastructure that will be supported in the budget finance officer richard gibson says the budget has increased from just over 155 285 million in 2021 to an estimated 162 303 million in the draft budget for 2022 the draft budget includes a new 350 000 euro fund to initiate a pilot project for infrastructure in council housing estates as well as capacity to ensure that co-funding requirements are available for all projects currently underway the council also says it will maintain levels of funding across its services in 2022 holiday homeowners affected by mica are being urged to come forward with their stories campaigners are hopeful the proposals for the long-awaited mica redress scheme will finally be ready by next tuesday following several delays the proposals are due to be brought before cabinet on november the 30th following weeks of negotiations however it's yet unclear whether holiday home owners will be included in the enhanced scheme mica action group pro michael dowherty says it's vital with people with secondary homes in donnie galler elsewhere affected by mica have their voices heard imagine a donnie gall dotted with derelict holy homes imagine being a neighbour a principal private resident and your neighbour in a semi-detached house or in the same estate where there are a number of holy homes and looking out at dereliction there and that's what we're facing in years to come if that's not tackled now tell your very real down-to-earth stories and let's see what we can do again to help yourselves and help us help you that there's no excluded homes by the time this is all set and done the doll has heard that over three hundred and forty children died in infancy or early childhood in the australia kanji home formally the local workhouse the home admitted 1,646 unmarried mothers between 1922 and 1964 the stark figures were highlighted again this week as part of calls for the mother and baby home redress scheme to include all former residents speaking in the doll donnie gall deputies thomas pringle says the government must do the right thing in the sonora county home in donnie gall alone 343 illegitimate children died in infancy or early childhood many of those who lived were subject to awful conditions and unfortunately experience separation anxiety ptsd and other mental health issues throughout their lives the very least that we can do is get fallen very redressed to every single one of those impacted this is the very least that survivors deserve after all they have been forced to endure and continue to endure as well i'm calling on the government to do the right thing here and france's interior minister says the uk needs to reform its labour market to stop enticing migrants into crossing the english channel yesterday was the deadliest day of attempts so far with 27 people killed near calais including a young girl five people have been arrested freelance journalist vincent macadvie says they're believed to be part of a smuggling gang yesterday was an incredibly busy day there were 25 uh attempted crossings so it shows the level of operation now that is going on the french coast and we understand that it's not just gangs that are operating out of the north of france they're operating from places like the nevelins from belgium as well so this has become a cross continental police mission to try and smash these gangs now today there will be sunny spells and well scattered showers and another cold day too with highest afternoon temperatures of five to seven degrees that's it for now we're back with the headlines for you at 11 o'clock until then good morning the obituary notices for thursday morning the 25th of november the death has occurred of denise boil john tagg acres burton port his remains are reposing at his late residence house private to family neighbours and close friends only police funeral mass on saturday morning at 11 o'clock in st columbus church acres followed by burial in belkrich cemetery the death has taken place of k magie baliar remelton her remains are reposing at her home which is private to family only police funeral mass tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock in st angus's church burt burial afterwards in burt cemetery the funeral mass can be viewed live on church services dot tv family flowers only donations if desired to the donnie goll hospice care of patrick sweeney funeral director the death has taken place of mary teak oil 30 dr mcginley road letter kenny her remains are reposing at her late residence funeral from their tomorrow going to st unan's cathedral for requiem mass at 11 o'clock followed by interment in umla old cemetery carry gart wake and funeral or private to family and friends please the death has taken place of bridget mccolligan bockin cul daff bridget's remains will repose at her home from one o'clock today bridget's funeral mass will take place on saturday morning at 11 o'clock in st mary's church bockin cul daff with burial afterwards in the adjoining graveyard the funeral mass can be viewed live on cul daff parish dot com house private to family and close friends please the death has taken place of william crawford bolly kiran kill mcranon his remains are reposing at his home funeral service tomorrow at one o'clock in litcher presbyterian church kill mcranon with burial afterwards in the adjoining graveyard the funeral service can be viewed live on patrick sweeney funeral directors facebook page family flowers only donations if desired to st joseph's community hospital patients comfort fund care of any family member the death has taken place of elizabeth lizzie mcconnell knee mcconnelly seven columbin terrace stirban informally of corremore crana funeral leaving her home tomorrow morning at 20 past nine for requiem mass in st mary's church melmont at 10 o'clock in term and afterwards in the adjoining cemetery donations and lou of flowers please to semblance and to paul society care of quigley funeral directors the house is private to family neighbors and close friends only please the requiem mass can be viewed live via the parish webcam the death has occurred of sheamus green la jr done low his remains are reposing in mcglenn's funeral home with viewing today from two until six o'clock with removal at six o'clock going to his late residence the house is strictly private at the request of the family funeral mass tomorrow at 12 noon in the star of the sea church anagri with in term and afterwards in the adjoining cemetery the death has taken place of john mcdade altahala con mani his remains are reposing at his home viewing today from four until six o'clock for family neighbors and close friends with the remainder of the time strictly private please funeral from there tomorrow morning at 20 past 10 going to st mary's church con mani for requiem mass at 11 o'clock burial afterwards in the new cemetery the mass can be viewed on church services dot tv forward slash con mani and the death has taken place of kevin quinn mullin to boil glantees kevin's remains are reposing at the family home funeral mass today at 12 noon in st connell's church glantees with in term and afterwards in the local cemetery the house is private before the funeral today pleased to family close friends and neighbors the funeral mass can be viewed on church services dot tv forward slash glantees on the death has taken place of charles boys boots pound street remelton his remains are opposing at his home house private to family only funeral mass tomorrow at 11 o'clock in st mary's church remelton with burial afterwards in the adjoining cemetery rosary tonight at nine o'clock funeral mass and rosary can be viewed on church services tv st mary's church remelton family flowers only for more details including any family health guidelines for wakes and funerals please go to highland radio dot com if you're age 60 to 69 you will soon be offered a covid 19 vaccine booster dose this is because cases are starting to increase in this age group your booster dose will give you the best possible protection against serious illness from covid 19 you should get it around six months after your last covid 19 vaccine when it's time for your vaccination center appointment you will receive a text message from the hsc for more information visit hsc.ie or call hsc live on 1800 700 700 from the hsc with all the stories that matter across the northwest it's greg hughes on the night and noon show on highland radio okay you welcome back to the program some of your comments mary says i did the census several times greg unfortunately i'm too old to do it now mary is that by your own um decision or is there an upward age age that i i missed on that what an absolute brilliant interview i'm blown away by that man michael's expertise in maritime investigations and ability to relay his knowledge well done both he and podrick mcloughlin i think it was really important you know it's not going to be a huge interest to everyone but i think it's important to get that on the record uh and i hope um it offers some comfort for the families to hear that conversation and those words that on their on their own local radio station as well i hope that uh offered some comfort as i mentioned hi greg you mentioned homeowner maybe deciding to wait to buy a home my son and his partner have been trying to buy a house for the past three years if a house becomes available within their budget there could be as many as a hundred plus looking at the same house meaning the price goes up and immediately out of their budget again it's disgraceful the way our young are being treated my son and his partner aren't good enough wages and should be able to afford a home in the meantime they're paying 1500 euro a month rent for the past three years and i'm sure to them that feels like money down the drain it's a lot of money isn't it um what 18 000 a year 36 000 for two years and 54 000 so they've paid 54 000 euro in rent which i'm sure they're thinking well you know what that could be going against our mortgage greg i see garth brooks has decided to honour us with his presence in orland again tickets are on sale at the moment should we have told him to clear the f off after the fiasco the last time many people lost money because they bought them online from people who were probably charging way over the odds when the concerts were cancelled the person who bought the tickets online would have got their money back but how many of them gave the money back to the people who bought their tickets from on facebook very few i would think garth did himself no pr favours the last time and came across as greedy but apparently it's all forgotten now and the circus is on again and it's on for a third time a third date has been added i believe it's the sunday is it uh and the fourth and fifth right well that was an inevitable wasn't it because his uh he couldn't throw his rattle out of the pram again um so he's doing the fit five now as was suspected so they dripped two sold them out third released must be nearly sold out is it the third as well fourth and fifth yes we have very short memories um but then there are people listening to this that probably have the phone at to say well you know if you buy your tickets on the black market so to speak you are always going to be taking a risk okay so he's doing the five caller says her home is also her business as she runs a b&b has already been hit with the recession and now this i presume uh has had to take a moratorium on the mortgage payments but is back paying now uh this home has meant uh was meant to be passed on to the children but it doesn't look like this will be the case now because of mica it's hard to know what to do now with regards to repairs doesn't know whether to wait to see what happens or just go ahead and get them done sooner rather than later again i would suggest if you haven't already have a conversation with uh some members of the mica action group they might be able to give you some uh guidance uh or at least just to bounce your feelings off them morning greg good morning to you i have planned to attend an event in sliger on sunday so to avoid an early morning start i thought i'd do a hotel overnight stay on saturday so i contacted a number of sliger hotels for a rate for a single i was quoted 180 euro room only 190 with breakfast other hotels 189 169 without breakfast i know rates are higher at weekends but i think rates like these are very overpriced hotels trying to make up now for the lost revenue due to lockdowns what do listeners think that comes in from charlie i don't know what uh i mean sligo you know there might be a bit of demand on it could be hen parties and stag parties and i don't know if there's any other events ongoing um does 180 euro for room only in sliger on a saturday night towards the end of november does that sound over the odds are the raking back money they may have lost i don't know people obviously are paying it or they couldn't charge it could they um would you please give the christmas toy appeal a mention on your show it's for disadvantaged children here in donagall it's a very good cause and a great opportunity for the people to give new toys uh new toys only you can contact unan de venny in balaba fey thank you very much the closing date 10th of december we have unan's number here by the way uh there's no point me reading it out because no one's going to be fit to remember it if you want to donate new toys for disadvantaged children in our canty uh then you can contact us we'll give you it brandon's number is it brandon uh unan a beg your pardon uh how is the air quality so bad in letter kenny a smokeless is being used will you see the thing is it isn't being used uh i've uh used smokeless fuel it's rubbish i think compared to coal for an open fire uh it also is not actually smokeless it does produce uh it does produce a smoke but nothing like coal the bottom line is is i think a lot of people are burning stuff that isn't smokeless coal be it wood uh regular coal or um pete and that was really the nature of the conversation yesterday from our expert he's been looking at the air quality he says look clearly because you can see the three elements that are peaking and at what times it's clear people are not all burning smokeless coal in letter kenny that's just uh it's you can't deny it it's there that the information is there but this core caller believes it's the traffic built up around the town all day long and if so there should be pressure put on politicians to push for the bridge over swilly that should happen anyway but the chemicals that have been found in the air and the peak it's about nine o'clock when people are lighting the fires and all that kind of stuff cars don't admit this cars don't admit this this has to be from burning solid fuel as i say coal smokey coal wet wood dry wood even or peat and it's really hard to deny that so lots of people are doing it personally i can kind of understand why because it's very expensive to begin with and you want a decent fire and heat that being said it shouldn't be happening according to the regulations and we had the gentleman on yesterday calling for the council to crack down on it because people out walking around about eight nine ten o'clock at night are inhaling an awful lot of these nasty uh nasty byproducts of burning these fuels knowledge even when it upsets you can be power and enlighten men on wisdom and learning was a text that i'm not sure of the context but hey probably decent advice who needs context now um in an area outside letter kenny where there are some really bad corners uh cattle keep escaping out onto the road at least four times in recent weeks this is so dangerous beliefs this listener as people are coming around the corner in their cars and not expecting a cow to be standing in the middle of the road eventually someone is going to be killed they warned the guards have been notified but there is uh there yet uh there is yet anything to be done about it uh so okay well we don't want anyone to get killed or seriously injured right okay it's thursday already can you believe i can um it's been a long week uh but it's time to play bingo the jackpot today is uh up for grabs good luck if you are playing here are the numbers back with more after the break oh by the way joe kelly will be on with us a little later on talking history uh joe always incredibly popular he's coming up after 11 o'clock we also have uh a weather forecaster on to talk about what weather we can expect over the course of the uh next couple of days the weekend and into next week i might even ask him or him are we going to have snow at christmas he can't tell us but it's a nice question to ask isn't it it's time for mcbi bingo on highland radio it's thursday the 25th of november jackpot day you're playing for the jackpot prize of 6600 euro on the pink sheet the reference number is s14 it's game number 47 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specialist he was told that we were told sorry that ben had the rarest form of kabuki syndrome he is the only one on record who presents like ben he has scoliosis a 45 degree curve in his spine he is nonverbal he is double incontinence um half of ben's body from his head to his toe was bigger than the other side so ben walks with the limp he is global development delay um he has severe learning and behaviour difficulties and um even though ben's 13 he has a mental age of a three-year-old now um kabuki syndrome was he born with this or is this something that develops as uh ben developed um no he was born with it but it was only um about five years ago that he was diagnosed with it okay um given um the care that's required for for ben has been outlining um obviously highly dependent that's not care realistically that can be provided at home is it it was up until just recently um i tried my best and struggled almost then i had help with carers um who used to take ben out um but then ben got too aggressive so um i was sick myself when i went out of hospital in june um so when i came home ben was very hard on me lashing out and hurt me so i had to give in and ask social workers for yeah which is heartbreaking for you too of course because as you mentioned is a beautiful beautiful boy but there's many many challenges and and uh it's not responsible for his actions but it's very difficult for you obviously as an extremely loving mum yeah it's very difficult my heart just broke from the day that i had to ask for help um i didn't want to let ben go but i had to as i have a four-year-old as well and she was experiencing some abuse and she was seeing me getting hit by ben yeah and i was incredibly difficult and you have to also yeah it's really tough now in terms then of um uh care for uh ben there's no options for you really in in northern arland is it because of this particular condition uh or is it that there simply aren't any spaces i wonder there is nowhere at all in northern ireland to cater for any children with disabilities as uh permanent live in home now that are you saying that those spaces simply don't exist or they're at capacity they don't exist wow yeah so what do uh you do and and other parents and guardians do in situations like this which obviously it's it's going to be as prevalent in northern arland isn't any place in the world well the options that i was told was that ben will be sent to scotland or he would be sent to dublin navin or cavern and that's i mean it's an awful long way from you you need to have access to your son and certainly whatever about navin or cavern uh dublin and scotland certainly would seem to be just non-runners for you it's just not good at all not only for me um for to move ben away from all his familiar things all his surroundings i go and visit him every week um to move him out of his school which he loves so much from all his friends it would it just wouldn't be good for ben so what do you see as potential solutions um you know as local as as possible i suppose you know i mean i presume we've made a lot of inquiries there are uh you know hopefully politicians making inquiries on your behalf like what what is a possible realistic solution or is there maybe perhaps there is none kira nobody as yet has got back to me about any solution ben at the minute is living in a respite facility um called avlon enoma um avlon is an amazing place um the staff are brilliant to ben but um it's only a short stay place so ben can't stay there long term so what i want to get out there is something needs to be done somewhere needs to be made for these children because ben isn't the only child that the parents can't cope with anymore um these children have just outgrown home they need professional help they need space they need a building where they can live forever families can come and go visit them um that's my fight for ben and for other families because there is absolutely nowhere in northern ireland it's almost hard to believe that isn't it that that it really is i mean can you imagine all the individual struggles uh that families are going through the heartbreaking decisions that have to be made and they're being forced to make them and you're being sent you're going down one road that is a fork in it and you know the that you can't manage the situation at home which is one way and the other is having to remove ben from everything he knows and from yourselves and place him into care a long long way away i mean it's impossible you're in an awfully difficult position it's very very sad so it is very sad are there any options in sligo or donnie gall perhaps that could be workable i haven't i haven't been offered anything that was the only places that were mentioned to me and as of yet um a lot of people are fighting we want robin swan and the minister of the western trust to come and meet myself and to meet ben and um to try and understand that we are humans we're not just a number we're not just people on a piece of paper we are humans who we love each other we have an unbreakable bond and just say that this is ridiculous in this day and age that there is nowhere in northern ireland for our children like i would i would have thought maybe there was one centralized in belfast or or mid holster and there wasn't enough funding to extend it and the the idea that there's nothing at all i mean this is something that and this is not about politics every politician regardless of what party you're none in northern ireland needs to get together and get this sorted at least have you know two or three regional facilities i know there's loads for 18 plus but yeah none were under 18 and sometimes you see it in reverse that there are great support supports for people until the turn 18 and then there's a clip and they fall off it that can be a problem in the republic of ireland of course right so in terms of uh who's taking it up for you you're appealing to you're looking to meet with robert robert swan hopefully uh he will meet with you uh other politicians i can't imagine anyone is refusing uh you were near on this and and to offer uh at least you know support politically to say look we're going to work on this i mean are you getting a good response from our politicians from our elected rex oh i am yes um daniel mccrossan brought it up in um starmont and he asked for robert swan to help us with this um he's been brilliant um militia mccuey he is going to bring it up next week in starmont um there's been loads of politicians writing to robert swan fighting for me helping me so please god i'll get some answers soon yeah because more immediately too i suppose christmas is coming and you want to know what arrangements are in place uh uh in terms of you know i don't know if ben will be home or be able to be cared for local or whatever i mean have you any resolution in that regard do you know what even is say happening in the short term yeah well um bans social workers um have told me that ben will be an avalon for christmas so at least i know he'll be there for christmas but after christmas i don't know what the future holds for ben yeah okay because he is getting great care but it is in a facility that's not designed for for for this type of long-term care yeah and other families are missing out because ben is actually living there and that's not fair either yeah okay well listen kira thanks for speaking to us this morning i hope you get some resolution i hope this you get and ben gets a resolution but something needs to be done on an austral wide basis uh an austral and wild basis because this is just completely unacceptable and it is thank you so much for having me no no it's our pleasure kira and i hope everything gets sorted thank you kira gilliland there who is from west turone um i'm flabbergasted that uh the options are go to doblin go to scotland cavernal navan the facilities are there but nothing in the six counties uh 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even though people say you know we should be peed off with them and all people want to go are you sitting in a queue what number are you at 08 660 25 000 tell us what how many concerts are left how many tickets are left um mary back on mary said she was too old to do the sensors now uh it's her own stamina she says of course and that's fine thanks mary for that good morning greg why are people not allowed to live in mobile homes in arland i asked an architect to put planning permission in for a mobile home on my land he told me i'm wasting my time council will not give planning permission i phoned the council and the woman said not a hope and she told me to build a house all right i don't think if i got that advice uh from from someone i rang up about a mobile home builder has uh i don't know what the story is i mean if they're on wheels do they actually really require permission can you not move them around a bit uh is there a bit of grace i think you know and they have access to satellites and and people reporting as well i think if you sort of say for instance in a a relatively scenic area plonked a mobile home there sort of like a holiday home they wouldn't be long getting on to you then but if you have a one on your site while you're building a house is that heavily enforced any experience of that again mikaela taking your calls 07491 25 000 i got my gareth brook's ticket says this list is so excited excellent stuff uh right okay we'll take music i should i played gareth already so i'm not going to play gareth brooks uh because it's too obvious other people will be doing that i would say i'm going to play walk the moon you can still you know shut up and dance to gareth brooks i suppose all right that is a walk the moon now i don't want to delay our next guest uh any further it's dr owen debara who is a consultant in infectious diseases uh diseases in a senior lecture with the r csi good morning to you doctor thanks for taking the call today i'm sure you're very busy as always yeah morning great right okay um i suppose before we talk about what left it might decide today your overview or where we're at in terms of you know this plateauing at what seeming to me is a high level uh maybe we're seeing a positivity rate um level off or even perhaps slow down we are seeing more distortions from hospitals icu seem somewhat stable again at a very high number this is already though putting pressure on an under pressure health service what's your overview of of where we are at you know i i think we're um it's lovely to think that we're out at a tipping point but i think it's a bit early to get too optimistic i'm afraid um we're under considerable pressure and um you know what we've had to do to get to this point in terms of cancellations of other things in postponement and all all have knock on effect so i think uh it's a little bit early and also we know with this disease it takes about two weeks for impact so for the case numbers that still translate into those unfortunately people who end up sick in hospital whatever happens we're in for you know a difficult probably four four weeks or more and if we look at the high case rates say for instance in younger people which we don't want to see you in anyone uh they are less likely to end up in in hospital thankfully can we maybe keep our fingers crossed that the the cases that we are seeing there may not translate into hospitalizations as high as could happen yeah absolutely and and and the high vaccination rate all that means that the the transition from case numbers to hospitalizations you know it's really the hospitalizations we need to look at but unfortunately we we just don't know exactly how many of those cases are going to end up in there and again it's the unvaccinated unfortunately it's depressing where i'm working that every day it's another four or five six people majority of them unvaccinated who have become unwell with this and it didn't need to happen so i i really hope that we're in the right place and i think the majority of the population are you know doing everything they can to uh to get us through this without having to end up in you know drastic measures i really don't want just to go to those lockdown that's nobody wants that no but the the public can be a wee bit frustrated too of course and you're a member of the public of course as well doctor in that you know we feel we're doing absolutely every everything we can and then we hear no boosters for over 50s to after christmas and we've seen what impact that that's having uh in in in britain and other places now and and and the delay in terms of you know adapting or adopting antigen testing it can be a bit frustrating for us to keep putting our shoulder to the wheel but feel we're being let down a little bit by uh others who make decisions yeah i can certainly understand that i think and i share the frustrations absolutely certainly in terms of of antigen testing and and some of the other measures in terms of the boosters it's important to remember with the uk that the uk hasn't really done very well you know the mortality rates and the ongoing high level the mortality rates are really very high and and they started you know vaccination before us so the booster for them as it's coming in is actually you know still um we're still kind of ahead of them if you like and i'm sure we had a very effective first and second dose campaign we will have a very effective third dose campaign i'm sure we're going to see that accelerate in the coming weeks would it be nice to be earlier but i think we have the tools and mechanisms we know that's going to happen um would you prefer to see or which do you think might be better you know we're returning to although we probably don't have the resources uh closer um you know contact tracing what have you of our younger population uh or or do you favor now what if it seemed likely to recommend that that our very young people in schools wear masks yeah i think it's not about a single thing it's all about layers um and there's some very nice data from the us from public school systems where they're showing the layers that you can do in in primary education and it can make it a much safer place but it is it's the ventilation it's the reinforcing if you're symptomatic not being there it's masks and it's some form of serial testing whether that's you know survivory PCR or antigen and it's it's it's some form of contact tracing i mean i think it wasn't a great thing that there was none um and i think public health struggle with capacity to have you know the full belt embraces but i think we have to recognize that outbreaks occur in clustered settings whether they're schools or any other and we have to be able to respond to them and empower those people with the tools to deal with it i think many other countries around the world their young people are masked and i think although it's got impacts on on education and communication i think by and large certainly primary school kids do what you know what's required of them and my own kids feel bad not having a mask because everybody around them is wearing a mask you know can i ask um there's a lot of conversation there and the use and sometimes the abuse of statistics as it relates to you know where we're at now a lot of people are trying to put it out there that that's actually we're in a worse position even though we had such a huge uptake of vaccines could you explain that that that to us um uh oh and um you know in other words like how people are still dying how people are still getting sick even with the high rate of vaccination well i guess part of it is that it was pretty astounding to think the vaccine was was so good to begin with there is certainly wane and the vaccine efficacy so it's protection it still remains very effective at preventing or reducing the amount of people that end up in hospital and die from this but you know even if they were 80 or 90 effective at that that's still a lot of the population that are at risk plus the people who didn't get vaccination albeit you know seven or eight percent of the population and then you think about what we've done the last three four months that really society has been very open we haven't managed to do that at any other time in the last you know 20 months without having catastrophic catastrophic surges so what we're seeing is is a surge that's going on because we have people moving because these vaccines don't prevent fully prevent the transmission but they do prevent that severe illness and again what we're seeing in the in the hospital setting is the majority people in the severe end of it are unvaccinated or people who immune systems meant that the vaccine didn't fully work so we would definitely be in a much worse situation and the recent EU commission graphic on that it's quite nice representation that the countries with higher vaccination rates have lower death rates from now we have one of the lowest death rates in in in Europe finally doctor how are you and your colleagues coping because it's been relentless it must feel relentless it's going to be a very tough December even in the most optimistic of scenarios and and January and then even with when we get those months out of the way hopefully there's an improvement there's an awful lot of catching up to do that could run you know and and new cases of of general illness coming all the time how do you cope it must just feel like constant and it does and it's you know it's not a healthcare is busy and certainly acute hospitals and all sectors of healthcare are busy all the time but it just becomes very wearing and fatiguing and that's especially when we're dealing with something that you feel that could have been preventable when you're when you're looking at a you know a 30 something year old and you're like this this didn't need to happen um it's hard and you know we're you know when we constantly deal with there's colleagues who can't come to shift and people are out and that we are experiencing you know the surgeon community as the rest of the community is too so it's very hard um and it makes it harder to deliver the care to your patients non-covid because you just can't get bed space you can't get the men you can't you know that they feel more threatened about moving around so it's hard but I think this is always hard and there's a lot of people experiencing various different forms of hardship through this none of us want it but there isn't any other way other than to carry on and just keep doing the next the next right steps next right things and using all the tools that we have available you know and things are going to get better I think the data is that the third doses are very effective and hopefully it'll be more durable immunity we'll have to see and then there are other treatments coming hopefully in in in the new year as well so hopefully 2021 is the last bad year I you know I think you know each successive successive wave has a lesser impact in terms of health it's got a big societal impact but a lesser impact you know the monoclonal antibodies have been approved by the EMA there's two oral agents that have been approved um we're going to be in a better place all right finally a doctor it's not a political question that might sound like it from your perspective as a an expert you know from from in one parliamentary parliamentary meeting this has been required referred to as a third dose and sort of almost like a three-course vaccine in another arm of the government it's being called a booster how do you see these third shots I think ultimately we'll look at the third shots as a third dose that you know when these were devised it looked like two doses was appropriate like with the Janssen vaccine it looked like one dose is appropriate but with time I think it's become apparent that the the mRNA vaccines are three dose vaccines and it might be that at some point we say actually we need a fourth one but at the moment the two doses doesn't appear to be inadequate to stay off and particularly in the setting of delta and you know the oncoming variants so I think I realize I know what you're saying and the language is important but I think it looks like it's a third third dose schedule rather than it being a booster all right and I think that's important because you know all you've been getting boosters every six months and I think it's just important if that messaging is made absolutely clear then not by you uh oh oh and listen thanks for your time this morning okay all right thank you bye bye Dr Owen de Barre Consultant in Infectious Diseases Senior Lecture with the Royal College of Surgeons today's 9 till noon show is brought to you in association with Ulster Tires get your tires winter ready drop in to Ulster Tires in Letter Kenny and Bali Buffet today already thinking about your Christmas party at Lucas burger pasta 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monday with mica one of the issues on that agenda the budget meeting is being streamed live this morning a link and all the details of the meeting so far are available on our website highland radio dot com letter kenny university hospital is once again the most overcrowded in ireland today with 58 people awaiting admission there this morning 22 were on trolleys in its emergency department while a further 38 were waiting on wards the national public health emergency team is meeting this morning to consider the next steps in the country's covet 19 battle public health officials are considering guidance around getting primary school children to wear face masks in the classroom the social protection minister says there are no plans to reopen the pandemic unemployment payment that's despite the hospitality sector reporting a big drop-off in business since the midnight curfew was introduced holiday home owners affected by mica are being urged to come forward with their stories campaigners are hopeful the proposals for the long-awaited mica redress scheme will finally be ready by by next tuesday following several delays however it's unclear whether holiday home owners will be included in the enhanced scheme the doll has heard that over 340 children died in infancy or early childhood in the strinauler congee home the stark figures were highlighted again this week as part of calls for the mother and baby home redress scheme to include all former residents the hunt is on to recruit over 200 illuminators in donnie gall for census 2022 they're needed to work for 10 weeks next year delivering and collecting forms from every home in the county finally planning has been approved for by donnie gall county council for on-site renewable electric vehicle charging stations at the letter kennie institute of technology campus the project will see ly it become one of the first third level campuses to showcase such infrastructure in ireland that's it for now we're back with an update for you again at 12 noon thank you very much to kathryn wait is finally over you ready disney 60th animated classic arrives the fate of the family comes down to you experience it fully in cinemas from the creators of frozen and the musical minds behind moana let's go critics agree it's one of the best disney films of the modern era it's spectacular beautiful and imaginative i will save the magic wait how do i save the magic disney's incanto don't miss it in cinemas now certificate pg all right you welcome back to the last hour of the show hi there just wanted to let listeners know that they should be aware of scam calls from amazon prime there are a lot of people shopping online with black friday offers and the real amazon prime are offering free prime membership for 30 days the caller asks you to opt out of this otherwise your bank will be deducted the 79 euro membership fee just wanted to let you know they are targeting local numbers at the minute just received call this morning kind regards coming in from kathy thank you very much kathy for that right okay our next item now is that weather related and we're joined on the program by alan all riley of the carloweather channel good morning to alan good morning great right okay so what are the prospects for this weekend weather wise it's going to get pretty pretty windy up these parts towards this evening isn't it it is indeed the first named storm of the season storm arwin has been named by the uk met office and it's a bit of an usual one it's a low pressure system we're used to coming from the west or the southwest this one's coming from the north so it's going to feed down over tomorrow really and into saturday with some very strong winds donnie gall is probably going to bear the brunt of them for ireland and it's the only county in the 26th to have a yellow warning at the moment and that comes into effect at three o'clock tomorrow until six a.m. on saturday morning now that could be updated to keep an eye on that but basically we're looking at a spell of very very strong winds tomorrow especially tomorrow night along with cold temperatures so it's going to feel the bitterly cold in that wind chill really really really cold yeah get in and stay warm if you can um when we talk about winds of that strength they'd like this to be damaging winds or well you're looking at ghosts of maybe you know 90 100 110 kilometers an hour possibly on the coast especially and i suppose as i said there will be a little bit unusual and that will be coming from the north direction so most people are probably more used to kind of getting exposed so you might find debris and different things that are not normally affected being affected so um but yeah certainly you know those especially along the coastline will want to take heed of the warning because there will be some very strong winds and as i say coming from a little bit of an unusual direction as well and there will also be feeding in some showers so those showers tomorrow well it's afternoon this evening but tomorrow especially will be sleety and some of them could turn wintry into snow tomorrow night especially and especially on high ground so you know the roads look yourselves on high ground there tomorrow night we could see some some wintry falls on high ground especially tomorrow night all right what's it looking like through saturday sunday and heading into next week any sign of some milder weather yeah so saturday will will be still uh very breezy but the winds will leave through the afternoon um so it will calm down on saturday and well it will be wet to start off with there will be some good sunny spells on saturday so it'll it'll not be a too bad an afternoon really but still very cold sunday then we'll see cloud and some patchy rain at times as well coming in from the west still very cold it does look like it's going to turn a little milder then for the early days of next week back up to 10 11 degrees but showery um so if we can get through the weekend we probably won't have to be too cold next week as long as the the lights the arm for the the tie show we we should be okay that's it's actually you didn't think about that uh the one thing about us in the northwest though we get so much of this type of weather uh our electricity infrastructure is really quite resilient but still um hopefully we don't see any big outages uh obviously you know long-term forecasting doesn't go a month one month to this day you know who's you know who's coming it's the big guy um there's no way of telling us uh is there if there's any possibility of snow over the christmas period no it's really it's really too far out i mean 2010 was the last time we really saw a white christmas um statistically we and that was a bad winter i mean it was it was cold for a long time that snow lay for a long time too didn't it it did it came from november really and it stayed really right up until after seen seems today so that that was really a remarkable event um there are some signals that some people would plan to to kind of say that was an increased risk of a cold december possibly but you know we we we kind of see those trends and they don't always end up stratospheric warming and different la Nina there's loads of weather terms you can talk about but there are some signals that we could have a higher risk of a cold spell but really intrudely once you go beyond you know 10 days it forecast becomes very unreliable all right so after sunday mild for a period then so really is what we're looking at yeah i mean certainly for a couple of days um it could it could turn back a little bit cooler again later next week but um monday tuesday wednesday don't look too cold um but certainly if you have plans for for tomorrow night and saturday morning and if they're outdoors you want to really want to wrap up because the wind chill while the temperature you know the weather station might record four degrees that wind chill could be minus four degrees so it's it's going to be a biting wind or a lazy wind as my grandfather used to say it's too lazy to go around you'll go straight through you very good a wise man indeed listen allen thank you thanks very much take care of yourself allen all righty there if the carloweather channel you can follow them on uh twitter and facebook as well if you want to stay across the weather there right another caller says if a top-up vaccine booster is required every six months then it should not be called a three dose vaccine like leo uh you learn and your learned guest called it should not be called the infinity vaccine and that's exactly why i uh that's exactly why i asked someone who's actually on a covet ward working in a covet ward uh you know he's not sitting in an office somewhere or he's not a politician sitting in the doll he's a man that's actually working on the ward with sick people uh and he what i heard from him is he saw this as a three dose vaccination and that it may be required for some people uh to get uh you know like an annual flu vaccine for for covid but there's far more treatments coming down the lines in any case hi greg there's another dangerous scam going around it's called the national lottery the biggest scam of all says the caller is it a scam you know there's a lot of balls the odds are millions upon millions upon millions to one uh is that really a scam we're all complicit in it uh me whole march and he's uh backing calls now for the lottery regulator to explain while the 19 million jackpot isn't being won he was replying uh to finnegale td bernard durkin in the doll uh who we spoke to on this program i believe uh who said iraq does that committee should examine why the top prize has not been won since june 24 he added that uh follows a president that was obviously set in 1913 in montecarlo and later in las vegas mr durkin said players who have been buying their tickets twice a week are rightly fed up it's high time he said to see what's going on inside that machine let me see what's making those balls spin how long more will people continue to buy tickets if they don't believe they have a fair chance of winning we have to get to the root of exactly what's at play here are the 47 uh rollers rollovers today just pure chance or are there flaws that need to be addressed it must be it must outline what steps can be taken to provide the public with clarity and reassurance uh okay and me whole martin sort of concurred so we need to look into this all right okay we are going to be speaking to a local filmmaker from derry very shortly uh his name is nathan edgar and he's produced a new documentary called foil search and rescue we're going to be speaking to him about his work um after we take this uh break so stay right where you are and if you want to watch that interview as i mentioned you can jump up on our social medias highland radio island on youtube and our facebook pages today's nine-tailed show is brought to 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documentary we'll take a closer look at the history of local charity full search and rescue and the story of its volunteers nathan edgar is a local filmmaker in dairy and the man behind this project good morning to you nathan thanks for joining us good morning great thanks for having me right why did you want to focus on the work of full search and rescue and and i supposed to you know give us more of an insight into the work that they do and the people that do this work why this i think it started over a year ago i was actually sitting and i just had this idea of starting a form online series called dairy hub so the idea was they focus on a range of different charities who make dairy a better place and when they talk a couple of months before full search and rescue the work that they do like in dairy it's it's extremely vital and i think suicide is a thing that affects a lot of people in dairy so those especially in dairy yeah and you know we're familiar with the name of the organisation we kind of know what they do but i suppose this gives us and you give us you know more of an insight more of an understanding to really what it is like to do this work it's definitely out there it's the choosy sort of these people they're dealing with traumatic incidents for like the year their own call i think it's on like 365 days a year non-stop the stuff they do they like to emergency response team they can be anywhere they can be at weddings they can be they can be on their suits there's an instance where they were in their suits at a wedding the page are went and they just have to go so it is to give us sort of insight and the sort of the serious work that they are doing yeah and as you say they're off the community too working for the community these are just normal people that are drawn to this type of work these are normal people and they like their employers they have permission from their employers for when the pages go they're allowed to go what i find when doing the documentary some of these people a majority of these people they're they're people you have personal experiences with suicide and it's they've actually put that on their work and it's motivated them to do this and i think it's just it's amazing to see yeah and if if everyone is not directly affected sort of by the work that they do there's only one or two degrees of separation do you know what i mean such as the such as the situation here in the northwest definitely and as there's a lot of people you're you can be linked in some way that they've been helped by voice search on eski where it'd be free like family members and stuff but just in general like that they're that they are heroes here in the city because how much she knows you're completely right yeah unfair play to you in establishing the dairy hub and working on this because you're right at the beginning of your your your journalism career documentary making you know so i presume to some extent it's the learning curve as you go as well for you definitely you know i'm learning every time i go out i'm learning it started like it started over a year ago the only thing i have is paper and a pen i came up with this idea and i just started writing and writing i said how you can i make this work so i like the student loans and stuff i just bought them up and it just went with as i've went along and i just learned too much yeah and i mean you can't film forever you know there comes a point where you have to say right i have to tell a story here this is the amount of of material i have in terms of interviews and all that type of stuff so what stage are you at the process now are you in a production you're still filming is it finished like are you ready to sign off on this yourself emotionally what's the situation nathan i think it's time right it's time to get out there i'm editing it's a it's a final stages so hoping for next month obviously there's a few different edits you have to do find a learn to if they follow samaritan's guidelines because the last thing i want is they put something right there that can you don't want to trigger exactly this has to be exactly fair play to you that's a really important aspect to this so tell us how you tell this story you know like is it interviews with crew members and i presume those paying tribute to them uh do you have your footage of them actually in action or what way are you telling the story nathan so it focuses on two volunteers mainly jerry burns and jack don so jack would be around 21 jerry they're a wee bit older it focuses on their story and why they join free interviews it's usually we go out in a tour around where they do patrol and the car and stuff obviously with covid the plan was to go out on the patrols and get all the action stuff but for me to go out with the full team on their patrol it means they have to cut one volunteer but obviously that was the last thing i wanted to do but it focuses on interviews with the volunteers get you a tour in the base um where they patrol now it sees the health monster robin swarm knew me long and the mayor paying tribute to them as well were you a bit nervous with those interviews or did you take it in your stride very nervous and we but i'm we but i'm actually a health monster on a microphone don't tell me you did the whole interview and you weren't recording the audio not that bad but i think anyone who's a journalist has done that you land back you're just on a cracking interview if it's video it looks great or you've asked all the right questions you plug in your device or whatever it might be all or all video no sound or no sound or something but anyway you got over that anyway whatever it was uh it's the worst case so it was up all been excluded so but a million pieces of glass and robin swarm office all right but anyway listen that's manageable uh and and you know i think you point out too that we call them full search and rescue but there's a there's a role they play in preventing uh suicide as well isn't isn't there uh nathan so do you think the aim of the charity is the prevention of suicide like i think in 2000 in twenty i think they recovered seven people from the river however the statistics for like so the rescues a light and stuff were a bit lower but away from out there they do talks as well they go in the schools i think they've talked over 10 friends and people it's amazing well listen we're going to get a real insight into it how are you going to well you'll let us know hopefully nathan uh you'll send us an email or give us a call when you're ready to uh release it how are you releasing it what what platform or what way are you doing that so a bit of soft launch on dairy hub on the facebook page and youtube channel and then we're we're looking towards a physical launch as well then talks about it so just hoping the fact was there and i kind of get the feeling that you've you already obviously understood this but you've kind of bought into it and want to be part of that sort of you know getting that conversation that message out there has that sort of been a little journey you've been on as well nathan definitely i think it's extremely important and just this year i get some of my best friends like you know see man the lost they've experienced genius issues but it's really pushed me people for and get the message out well done and um in terms of yourself personally you're still studying are you journalism or still studying so studying journalism and day and i'm working full time in a restaurant as well so it's just very young if you can't do it now exactly and uh what do you hope to do in the future is it documentary making working in news more generally or what's your your hopes for the future nathan documentary is released with us so hopefully this year i'm planning on this to take off or hopefully i can make a you know make this my career and i can be brilliant and it'd be great to have a another hugely talented person working in that field in the northwest well done thanks so much for talking to us you'll let us know when it's released so we can we can share it here as well so get as many eyes on it as possible and well done and thank you for joining us thank you great cheers good man that is Nathan Edgar there he's a local filmmaker in dairy it sounds like it's going to be an interesting piece focusing on the work of full search and rescue that's what it's called and it'll give us an insight into the people and the organization and he's doing all of this whilst studying journalism working full time in a restaurant it's great to be young isn't it and have all that energy fair play to him i got a lot of calls say it's a call i get a lot of calls from mobiles that hang up is this a scam how does it work am i safe you are safe it is a scam because what they can do now is before do you remember you'd get the number and it was from you know some far flung country or other and it was very clear what it was is now they have got cloning equipment so that they can mimic any number and that's what they do right okay donal kafna has taken a break from monitoring the proceedings um the donal counter council proceedings it's currently a meeting to agree it's current budget he's jumped into studio with us uh donal what is actually happening today you know can be kind of confusing one of the agreeing is a capital is it expenditure is it what what is that going on what's happening today greg is what would be the expenditure budget the day-to-day spending um 162 million just over one 162 million would be spent by donal county council in 2022 now of that 62 million will go on wages and then money will obviously go on council projects rolls pensions is always a big one yeah and that's i mean of the 162 62 immediately is a salaries and wages and there's more on pensions and gratuities as well so that brings it well into the it's close on 70 million plus so you know the the the majority of the money is going on wages which obviously the council has to pay and then what you'll get is a little bit of horse trading then between members and officials with regards to well can we spend on this road can we do this bridge there'll be a certain amount of of work there there is then a separate capital budget which is going to be discussed on monday at the plenary council meeting now that will be presented again um and there'll be issues discussed at that which could potentially be be interesting for instance the meeting was told today just as a matter of information more than a matter of debate although this could be raised later the meeting was called the donal county council has identified 1000 of its own social homes which have defective concrete blocks the council is seeking 280 million euro over five years from government or over four years sorry to deal with that issue now that really will come up for discussion during the capital budget discussion on monday but i would not be at all surprised if a number of members tried to raise that issue in the discussions today at present we're just getting presentations from the chief executive the finance director now the directors of service just making their presentations going through the figures and and the headlines of such then there'll be questions and answers members will question the officials and then what would normally happen when you're meeting in a building is the various parties and groups would get together and have discussions and they'll come back and say well we want to change this we want to change that and you get the annual thing where they'll say well chief executive we want you to spend 20 000 more on this and he'll say well spend 20 000 less on something else exactly with no disrespect to that process we're talking you know a multi uh million euro budget tens and tens and tens of million a lot of that little bit of back and forward and horse tracing hold trade it can be over a couple hundred grand i can't oh and it will be and it will be over it can be over tens it can be you know it can be over tens of thousands in in in some cases but i mean now what's been happening uh this year more than any other year we're told is the level of pre-budget discussion that's taken place between the heads of service at MD level between the officials and the members between the members themselves and what the officials are trying to do is basically get all this done before the budget meeting so they can present and get it voted through with relative ease and the expectation i think would be that the budget will pass today now we've all covered over the years the budget meetings that went through four adjournments and went right up to the wire and there have been sessions that lasted well into the early hours of the morning where the horse trading was over what would appear on the face of it to be very little but to some members was you know the most important thing on on on the agenda um the the sense i'm getting is that today will pass and it will be reasonably straightforward now they can be famous last words as we all know when it comes to discussing the council yeah so uh whilst this is an important day of course as was referenced by the Cahirloch the capital budget probably more headlines coming out of that then or that there would be headlines out of the capital budget on monday certainly uh and that will really be looking at how how the council is spending money the mica issue is inevitably going to be a really really big issue i think when when that comes to be discussed on monday we can really expect uh uh potential fireworks even when when that's being discussed because you know it's it's it's bound up in a number of other discussions as well there seems a very clear plan here as to how the council's going to deal with uh the houses so that they own versus what people with private houses that they're uh jumping through and what they're trying to and obviously then we're waiting on the redress and minister darrow brine saying yesterday afternoon it'll probably be next tuesday but it will definitely be before christmas um so you know people are still waiting on that one but uh what what the government how the government responds to council uh will will be something separate to that okay uh so no real headlines as such today uh other than sort of confirmation of the you know a big portion of this is on wages and pensions and and what have you yeah i mean and we we will get i mean you know the council is saying it's um it is not changing the rate now that that can always be an issue of if if the council seeks to increase the commercial rate it's not doing so this year it's seeking to keep that the same um which really means that you don't have this big discussion will we or won't we change the rate so really it's a matter of will we accept the budget and what little bit of horse trading will take place with regards to the figures within it but uh one of the things that jack marie did say is more than ever this budget has been member led and there's been so much discussion taken place before today that he's hopeful they'll pretty much have all the figures nailed down and it should be straightforward however as i said before the day you say it's going to be straightforward is the day something comes from left of field and it's very hard to get what is it how many councillors 37 it's very hard to get absolute consensus amongst 37 individuals in any scenario all right that's uh journalist our journalist of course donal kafner he's monitoring the county council meeting and of course donals coverage will be carried throughout the course today on our news bulletins and then of course into next week when the capital uh element of that budget is uh debated right sir we're going to be talking history with dr joe after these today's nine tone in show is brought to you in association with ulster tires get your 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today about isaac bot tell us about him his significance well a very interesting man um some might argue probably maybe the most uh significant historical person that was ever born in dunigol that's up to for debate no doubt but we talked before about wolf tone who was called the father of irish republicanism and pierce reckoned that he was the greatest irish man that ever lived wolf tone and wolf tone as we we learned was was from a protestant tradition and very much for catholics and republicanism and all that ideology and on the same foot um isaac bot has been often named the father of irish home rule but the idea of our own self-government uh and establishing a government back in dublin it was seated with isaac bot a dunigol man a man from from clon from county dunigol glenn finn and that's where he was born and reared uh so he was not a man of of small stature in the sense of politics but academically as well and he was reared as i said in insurnora in and around clohen and he went to the royal school there in rafoe which is a massive history people like himself and others that attended their school there and he seemed to be a very bright intelligent young man and he did the entrance exam for tunity college when he was only 15 and he came first yeah he came first and won a scholarship to to the college the entrance exam at 15 he must have been extremely bright young man and what was he born sorry in what period are we covering here uh joe well he was born in 1813 the 6th of september 1813 and i think it's it's a great time to talk about him because we're talking about united ireland and the question maybe often is not is it going to happen the question is when is it going to happen and i think we've a long long long way to go before we get to to that understanding and this man i said but gave us a a wonderful insight into the progress from where he came from to where he ended up okay so talk to us about ireland in 1813 you know politically what was the situation here politically we had 1798 united ireland rebellion uh england were very very afraid of being attacked and obviously they were because the france sent um quite a lot of soldiers and ships 46 ships to it to attack you know to help ireland attack so then because of that they decided to take away our government in 1801 which is called the act of union which meant that we were controlled directly from westminster and that's the way it remained until 1921 22 and in terms of how uh what was the obviously seats of power then in the republic though so how was rule sort of enforced in the republic uh during that period of the 19th century well because of the united ireland rebellion and was often seen as a catholic thing um they decided to keep the status quo there because they knew they could be safe with them and that allowed for protest in a sentencing to continue where the protestants controlled all the jobs had all the power administration and so forth and in the middle of all this 19 18 29 daniel o'connell stood got elected as a catholic mp but wasn't allowed to take a seat so this then caused a constitutional crisis in westminster and they had to allow for catholic emancipation so that was the the turning point in 1829 catholic emancipation and it's at this time that isaac but now is is growing up as a young man he enters tennessee college in 1833 um he comes from a protestant strong protestant orange aristocratic view um he sets up the double university magazine and a newspaper called the protestant guardian so he was very much into the protest in the sentencing initially in his life and he became the chair of political economy and a professor in tennessee so he obviously was a very bright learned educated man he wrote three different novels uh classical novels virgin and novel and stuff like that but he moved into the law the sphere of law and he was invited to the bar in a point in 1844 as queens council so he obviously was very articulate and when daniel o'connell then got emancipation catholic emancipation he moved then towards wanting well can we get a government back in ireland and the man that opposed him completely was isaac but said no he was happy that under the union ireland had peace and stability and it ought to be resisted and daniel o'connell was very prophetic when he was being challenged in the debate uh in dublin by isaac but he says isaac you're a young man and when you're my age you'll be campaigning for a home rule government and i'll no longer be here and that's exactly what happened so what changed then along along uh like how how soon then did we start seeing isaac bot's attitude change had and how did it sort of manifest itself well he was an orange man he was a unionist and he joined the uh masonic lodge he had all that tradition and and the protest in this darkness he his father was a protest minister so he had all that heritage but it was a famine that changed him and as i said to you was a very educated man a very insightful man i would have been an amazing man to sit down and had a conversation with i would imagine and he saw at the heart of every society that there was something wrong with what happened in the with the famine and he had realized in that moment that ireland had been starved because of mismanagement because we didn't have our own government okay so just before you pick up from there so in terms of of of his orangism at that time orangism and unionism were they one and the same go hand in hand or would have been varying views or what would have been the situation then would you what do you think yeah well see orangism is a very very careful how you define it and as i said before when we were talking with scott mclenan was on and with a little fabulous conversation and i was saying to you when when william of orange was was dutch and they didn't want to see the french expand too strongly so actually the catholic the pope said a mass in celebration when william of orange won the battle of the boine because he was happy to see the french be curtailed because the french were support supporting the other side and so orange is isn't necessarily totally Protestantism it was a concept and it was bigger it was a bigger european debate than what it has become over the centuries here in ireland one has to be very careful but at that time yes a lot of the orangism was seen as just Protestant ascendancy and control and and it was very much exclusive in that sense however while while he might have had that ideological view he saw the famine and at the same time there was a rebellion the 1847 rebellion or 1848 rebellion the young irelanders and then again the fenian rising in 1867 so what happened in those two when we talk of a rebellion or an uprising what actually happened on in those years yeah well what basically happened was like 1798 like 1803 with robber dammit there was a physical forced tradition still in ireland saying we must strike out for irish freedom against england so there were two rapid rebellions and 48 and 67 was called the young irelanders rising and then the fenian rising of 67 maybe we'll talk about that again and who was the queen's council but isaac butt and he ended up defending the irish republicans he ended up defending them in court and he actually was jailed because he wasn't paid and he couldn't pay his pay his debts and he was so he wasn't agreeing with their physical forced tradition but he believed in their ideology and he represented people like william smith though brine and fanciest maher who was a man that started off her tricolor so this is who isaac butt had kind of fallen into defend and and he really highlighted how unfair the trial system was and he used example of cork where there was 400 000 people there was a jury got and off the 400 jury people pecked only 30 were catholics in other words the other 370 were provisans and he said this is cork was a majority catholic county and he says this is not right he says and so he began to realize that he had to change his outlook and he realized that ireland couldn't progress without equality without the catholic church being recognized and without his catholic brothers being given the equality that that the provisans had enjoyed and so regardless of of his background his rich and his previous beliefs he just looked around him and said this is not a country to be proud of perhaps even a country to live in this is not fair it's not the natural justice within him and yet he still stayed authentic to his beliefs but he realized that his beliefs had to change that the decency on had to be afforded to his brethren on the other side religiously so to speak and but and do you think that was his studying of law that that sort of dictated that or were there other influences i wonder i don't know i think at the heart of every human being you come to a realization of things that are right and things that are wrong and when you don't feel right about something if you if it doesn't dawn to you over time and over over life experiences you begin to mellow or you begin to see things differently and just think of aon paisley and i think aon paisley was a wonderful man i think his early life leaves a lot to be desired but the way he went at the end of his life and the journey he made towards the end was a totally different aon paisley at the start of his life he had to go on that journey and i'll never forget him shaking hands with with Bertie Herron up in Dublin that he went that far to do that and obviously i think what kind of went through the same journey from his own understanding of his tradition and valuing his orange tradition and valuing his Protestant faith but at the same time having the heart big enough and the scope on the mind big enough to realize that he had to embrace other traditions and not just that he understood to the land tenure the way the land was being held and at the time that he wrote a number of pamphlets he wrote a terrible lot about 20 pamphlets an amazing man he wrote about fishing he wrote about education his stuff even to this day is still very very real and very very like his articles on fishing is amazing and he talked about having to invest in fishing and the potential that Ireland had something that could still be done his understanding of education where he believed that education had to be allowed for the Protestant faith but also allowed for the Catholic faith and where there had to be a free flow of ideas he was very very forward thinking for a man of his time when he's when his writings and opinions are still relevant today i think my opinions don't last the day sometimes or the show let alone a century stay with us dr joe kelly historian uh because we want to sort of timeline this a bit clearer because i've been asking questions and i tend to do i drag i drag joe all over the place so we're going to timeline uh isik bod and his uh his development his change in 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increase later in the day bring more frequent showers temperatures five to seven degrees and as we mentioned earlier becoming very windy overnight and into tomorrow temperatures one to five degrees overnight we're talking history with dr. Joe kelly and we're focusing on mr isek but who is arguably the most important historical figure from donnie call and i'm sure there's many a row over a whisk or something had over that over the years right so um isek but then um as uh take us through the journey of his life you have already but you know timeline it as his view changed uh politically how he was influencing i mean he was was he ever elected uh or tell us about that side of him please joe 1952 um he was elected as an mp for warwick in england and later then for yaw and cork and then later on then for lembric until the end of his life to 1871 so he was elected an mp but one needs to understand an mp at that time it wasn't uh financially lucrative so he didn't devote himself fully to the political life because he wasn't able to afford to do so he was often um in poverty and in debt and as i said to you before to the extent that he represented for example the fiends who and got no payment and was jailed for the debts that he had incurred himself uh he died in poverty he died poor he is as he lived um so obviously he was very noble in his in his attitude so he began to realize with the famine that things weren't working out and he won't have as i said numerous pamphlets and in the 1850s he realizes that something has to happen here and what he said was the england's parliament has failed to secure for ireland that the everyday administration of affairs should be in harmony with the genius and character of the people so he realized that the parliament thing that wasn't keeping with the character of the people of ireland and something needed to be done so over time he tried to get the ireish mp's together into a collective which was the beginning of home rule the home rule party which was later led by parnell and then later by john redmond so he was the father he was the person that had the ability uh intellectual agility to do this and bring them together and to get them to work towards trying to achieve some kind of home rule parliament so he was playing a long game in it too this is not something he was hoping to achieve in one term of parliament he was sowing the seeds knowing that this would be a a long process absolutely and mindful of what daniel o'connell had said to him before this daniel o'connell now is dead and that he became the man that so to speak uh took up the cudgel or took up the the baton for this and don't forget at the time that the english conservative party that was in power for much of this time seen ireland as a pinch of imperial and imperial snuff box a pinch of snuff it didn't respect ireland was nearly a small matter and but you know what isn't it interesting to when you looked to last year um and there was a poll of conservative party members and their attitude towards northern ireland that they would cut it away you know what i mean that that wasn't it wasn't important to them in the whole brexit brexit was more important than maintaining the union uh i mean are these just historical attitudes that sort of maintain i wonder you know what i mean well there's a two-way thing just a recent poll by i think was the leverpool university it's only nine percent of a concern for the british people in other words 91 percent of the issue is nothing to do with northern ireland it's not seen as as important um and look at that's again a debate for where we're we're a country and our nation with our traditions where are we going and and again i think that is a but understood that we were being ignored that the parliament wasn't working in westminster and he had to try to use whatever means he could now he was seen as being an effective and as you talked about the long game some of the irish parliamentary MPs were were not happy with the long game and they began this thing called obstructionism joe bigger was the best at it so when a motion would be put to the government he would stand up and you couldn't stop him from speaking and he might speak for two or three days filibustering yes and this delayed the whole process of passing laws by the british government and and this was their way of trying to get the british MPs to realize look we're a country over here we need some care and some attention so and and and is it but wasn't like that he believed in negotiating and being intellectual in the way he approached things and he did have certain successes with land reform acts he did achieve certain things with laws with acts with education with investment and so forth but as i said it was only a little pinch in the imperial snuff of darland and it he wasn't as successful as people might have hoped he would have been but without him without him starting what he did we wouldn't have got to where we we are and certainly he wrote a pamphlet called irish federalism and you mentioned there just at the beginning when we came back on there like what kind of uh home rule did he understand he realized that there needed to be a new arrangement in the relationship between the two countries um and that we needed to come in commence that immediately in this century this is you're talking 1870s this is over 150 years ago and he wrote that um to my country men i submit this proposal uh and that which offers us at all events the best prospect of obtaining the self-government without which iran can never be at peace out of pathetic and here we are on the other side of brexit and we're still not at peace maybe not violently but like from an economic point of view from a social point of view you know or with the six counties and so forth that we not have peace and we sit down and we figure out how we go forward but just in relation to that you mentioned his involvement you know with the physical forced tradition more so i suppose in defending those involved in it did he uh was it solely political how he saw uh arland um or would he would have how what was it what would his views have been on achieving goals you know through force for example yeah well he was totally opposed to the what the young irlanders and the irish phoenix had done he didn't believe in physical violence um he was a very placid simple man and obviously had a deep religious sentiment and the idea of you know love your neighbour as yourself that whole christian philosophy he would have been totally opposed to violence as a man so um you know we could have could have learned a lot in the last hundred years from him had people listened to him back then maybe we wouldn't have had a 1916 then we maybe wouldn't have had a war of independence then maybe we wouldn't have had a government of irland act that divided our country in two all those things could have maybe been avoided had had we we're we're getting to a space now that that he was there in the 1870s um and going forward you know it's i think there's a lot to be learned from this dunny gall man and in fact from the likes of his protestant orange tradition people maybe don't realize at times that dunny gall has the biggest protestant population in the 26 counties and if we ever want to dream about a united irland our story and when i say our county story the protestant tradition the orange tradition and we had scott on scott mccain talking before this is the perfect place to start this conversation in the last minute joe do we do we recognize and honour him enough obviously the only place that springs to mind for me is the butthole in in the twin towns um but but in in terms do we do we remember him enough for his historical arguably uh one of the most important historical figures from the counties he's celebrated uh enough like i just may simply not be aware of it i know there's a statue of him and there's a museum for him as well but i think from a from an educational point of view i don't think so i think we should be very proud of him i think we should be very proud of his tradition we should be very proud of the journey that he went on and there's so much that we can learn from him and maybe i'm only touching the the tip of the ice but at the same time i'm glad to claim him as a dunny gall man and i'm so grateful that we had a man like that uh that spoke up for the people of Ireland when we were voiceless and brought us on a journey that we needed to go on and one must remember Parnell and subsequent people after him were learned from Isaac but and he became a true champion and a faithful servant to the people of Ireland and rightly called the father of homeroom thank you so much indeed as always doctor joe kelly historian there that is where we have to leave it on the program uh concluding our conversation about Isaac botto 86 60 25 thousand if you want to send a message or a whatsapp by the way and we can come back to it tomorrow uh that is it we'll be back tomorrow with our friday panel as always uh very enjoyable hour of the program and uh michael and fenula with us after 11 and uh plenty in between as well stay tuned gene 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