 All right, welcome everybody to your own book show on this Wednesday night. It's late here in London and I am at the beginning of my European tour So we'll be doing shows from a variety of different hotel rooms around Europe so Timing you know today is a little early for most of you. So but this will be probably The time I do the show right now here in London. It's about 10 p.m I think some shows will be a little later. Maybe 11, but Generally the shows from the East Coast time perspective will be earlier than what you are used to so That's the way it's going to be while while I am traveling. We'll see maybe some of the shows will be Will be earlier and will be will be during the day actually during the day So we will see Hopefully will will will be joined by some UK listeners, although it's already late in in the UK as I said 10 p.m And in Europe mainland Europe, it's already 11 p.m. So so maybe it's a little late for most of them. So We will rely on American listeners for most of Most of the live views All right, you know, I'm in London I'll be here until Sunday I'll be doing tomorrow. I'll be doing an event up in Durham. Durham is in the very north of England It's at the University there. I'm speaking to the Durham Union, which I love because the Durham Union is going to be a kind of court non-partisan Event it'll be an event that is Not a conservative or libertarian. It's just the union. It's just students So there'll be a lot of what I call Virgins people who've never heard my ideas before never heard about I never heard of iron man And it'll be a great opportunity to introduce them to these ideas So I'm in particular always always love those kind of events. So I'll be up in Durham tomorrow It's a it's a three hour train ride there and it's a three hour train ride back So that'll be fun. I'll have a lot of time to do some work on the train So no show tomorrow. I'll be on the train internet connection is not good enough on the train You know one of these days will do a travel log and I'll I'll I'll do the Iran book show on my phone from Godforsaken places around the world. Anyway Friday. I'm speaking at a local girls high school It's those are always fun. I've told you about these before so this is Jags JAGS It's in south of London. It's an all-girls private school and We're talking about a friend. I don't know if you guys know but in British high high schools in high schools in the UK as part of kind of the advanced politics class What's called the a1 classes Iron man is one of the political philosophers that they studied in the in the politics section She's listed under a conservative philosopher conservative thinker, which is I'm a snowman, but I don't really care The main thing is that they study iron man. So This will be to the politics class at Jags high school. I'll be talking about iron man's philosophy I'll be taking the questions given that You know, I'm sure they've got a lot of questions that they're reading iron man for the first time You know in a politics class You'd expect them to have a lot of questions. So, yeah, it's it should be a lot of fun. It should be interesting I'll be I'll be there tomorrow I'll be there tomorrow In the not tomorrow. Sorry, I'll be there Friday in the early afternoon then in the evening I'm doing an event. I think it's the world premiere It's the first time We're doing an event together. So there'll be me Don Watkins and Nikos, you know Nikos is kind of cool because Nikos goes by one name Nikos like Pellei I mean, he doesn't need a surname. He's just Nikos. I should go by just Iran, you know, or whatever It doesn't sound quite the same Nikos All right, I'm a little jealous of Nikos. Just the one name one name guy Anyway, we're doing an event to three of us what we're talking about Effective egoism and no we're not selling out on the term egoism It's just a clever marketing ploy to use effective from effective altruism to present. What's even more effective? Actually, the only thing that's effective, which is egos and so what we talk about egos and how to apply egos and That'll be a fun event if you're in London in the London area, please come Information about this you can find on the iron red Institute website also on the iron rand center UK website and I think on the Iran book show website So you should be able to fly you should be able to find all those things All those things in On the websites That's interesting. Why is this not working? Huh Where's the super chat not going on to my Super chat tracker. That's not good. Oh, oh Yeah, because I didn't press start that'll do it when you don't press start things. Don't start duh. All right. Anyway So so that'll be Friday Saturday and Sunday. I'm on two panels This at the battle of ideas. I think Don Watkins isn't one panel Nicos isn't one panel. So there'll be a massive Objectivist presence at the battle of ideas and encourage you to come again if you're in England It should be a lot of fun London's a great city. As I said, you know, I arrived here this morning I had dinner at one of my favorite restaurants in the world now at Iqoyi, which is a African restaurant that has now recently received Two Michelin stars. So it's a two Michelin star restaurant and the food was Exceptional. I really enjoyed its unique. It's special. It's spicy. It's it's it's very enjoyable. So That's London for anyway Monday, I go to Edinburgh It's You know, I'm going to fly there It's close to Durham. I should have combined Durham and Edinburgh on the same kind of track anyway next time Anyway, I'm going to Edinburgh Edinburgh. I'm gonna speak about Collectivism and war or capitalism and war or collectivism. Well, I can speak about both So collectivism versus capitalism and war. So we'll talk a little bit about the war in Russia, but really Try to highlight Iron Man's essay the roots of war where she attributes war to collectivism and of course the current crisis in Russia and Ukraine war in Russia Ukraine is a perfect perfect illustration of exactly that then Tuesday, I'm in Berlin. So again information about all these events is available on the websites Tuesday. I'm in Berlin Thursday, I am in no Tuesday. I'm in Berlin. So Wednesday. I am in Lugano in In Switzerland they're flying into Milan and driving up there So if you're in Northern Italy, if you're somewhere in Switzerland come over to go out Lugano It should be a fun event. It should be interesting and I think it's kind of a debate I'm not sure but there's another guy together with me. So it might be a debate But that'll be in Lugano at the University over there again information is on my website a rise website and then Friday, I'm in Oslo And I think I'm in Oslo. Is it just me or is Nicos? I think maybe they're with me and I'm doing something on the on the Cantu anyway, I'm an Oslo. I'll figure it out by the time I get that figure out what I'm talking about and then Sunday, I'm in one of those surprising places Paris one of the last countries in the world to translate at the shrugged and I'll be speaking there on Sunday and then Sunday and then Monday in Lisbon. So if you're if you're in Lisbon, I know a bunch of you are in Lisbon I have a lot of listeners in Lisbon Please come to the event on Sunday night It's run by the local libertarian group in In Lisbon, which should be interesting because I'm sure there'll be a good Q&A and some good conflicts particularly given what I get what I'm gonna say about the materialism in a little bit and then Tuesday There's an event in Madrid in the evening at the University of Francisco, Malacuin their branch in Madrid So they have a that's the University for Guatemala and they have a their branch in Madrid So that'll be that'll be a lot of stuff that'll be a lot of a lot of fun fun So yeah, hopefully if you're in Europe you can attend one of those events and Say hello and introduce yourself and tell me you follow me on the show and that'll be great It'll be a lot of fun. If you can't attend any of these events. I will be back in Europe in late February early March Because I hear the weather in Europe is perfect in that time frame I'm already cold just thinking about being here in late February early March and I will be doing a lot of Probably more some London always London, but also some eastern European countries. So Hopefully Poland hopefully Czech Republic Slovakia if you are interested in inviting me to come and speak in February March any way in Europe any way in Europe Please email me at your on at your own book show calm and I'll put you in touch with the person who's organizing all my events But yes, if anybody out there is interested in having me come and speak in the US in anywhere in Asia in South America in Europe drop me an email and You know that one of our listeners Said hey, why don't you come to Churibita in Churitiba in In Brazil never heard of Churitiba. I went had a wonderful time He drove me around when sightseeing around the city and gave a talk fabulous reception great people and All because somebody yes, I last I heard he hadn't even read Iron Man But he was he listens to the show and he was excited about having me at his business school and it worked. So Take the initiative do it take the initiative. All right So that's kind of a quick outline there I'm not gonna say much about Ukraine today. You you probably read the news Russia is is bombing Ukrainian cities. It can't it doesn't seem to be able to win on the battlefield So it is trying to intimidate the civilian population. I mean, I'm one who believes that That's what war is to expect civilians not to be casualties in wars ridiculous it is a it is part of war but I think it's more indication of the fact that Putin is losing Putin knows he's losing and Putin is desperate On the battlefield itself everything I read suggests that the Ukrainian is still making Incremental progress and things look up for Ukrainians in the next two to three months till the end of the year as it happens I'm gonna talk about The UK mini budget I talked about it a little bit I'm gonna talk about the financial crisis that is brewing in the UK Probably on a different show probably later this week I just need to read up about it and I want to see how things developed by Friday because Friday is a key day So we'll see what happens on Friday, but I will over the weekend. I'll be doing shows I will be talking about the financial crisis Importantly for those of you in the US who are listening will it spill over to us? How does a crisis like this manifest and it's itself in the US are the same structural problems that are evident in the UK Are the same structural problems? Do they exist in the in in in the US? I think it's an important show because one of things Everybody's talking about they're talking about Inflation and they're talking about recession But a financial crisis on top of a session and an inflation Could be a real disaster and and it's good to be on top of this stuff. So we'll talk about that On the weekend on the weekend. Okay, today, we're gonna take two topics We're gonna talk about So I wasn't gonna do a show tonight and then I'm sitting actually at the restaurant and Iqoi and I'm flipping on my email. I get an email from the independent institute in Libertarian Institute in Oakland, California And there's an article about Iran and it just Pissed me off and it pissed me off so bad that I said, okay I'm gonna do a show and I'm gonna read from this article and I'm gonna critique it and it's gonna get nasty But I can't stay silent because this is as you know because I've talked about this although nobody seems to watch those videos But I talked about this about the Iran issue the Iran demonstrations the the revolution Or the attempted revolution that's happening in Iran right now. This is a big issue. It's a big story It's an important story. It's one that I kid deeply about And then these guys write what they write. Okay, we're gonna read that and I'm gonna read it to you and And and and talk about it and then on the flip side, right? somebody posted something on twitter a video of a ceremony at the University of Minnesota medical school That is this is a graduation ceremony that is Truly creepy and I hope I hope That I never have to get health care. I hope I never have to get treated by one of the doctors who just got sworn in God I'd be afraid to go to the emergency room and have one of them be my treating doctor So if you live in Minnesota, oh my god, you gotta watch this. So I'll play it I'm not sure exactly how the audio is gonna work here because I'm having a problem feeding the audio from videos into YouTube But um, we'll see anyway, but well, I'll make an effort. Hopefully you can hear it You'll let me know if not there's gonna be subtitles. So I did turn out subtitles So you will be able to follow it there. It's a short video. It's a minute and a half and it's creepy It's it's super creepy. Okay, so it's gonna be the two It might be a short show today, which is fine because it's late at night here. It's 10 10 15 already I You know, I'm hoping you guys will jump in with some super chat questions and maybe some some good super chat dollar amounts um We're kind of lagging in super chat this Uh I'd say this way am I I don't want to be there Oh, I know I'm there. Okay. We're kind of lagging in super chats Uh today and we're lagging in super chats over the last couple of shows So, uh, it'd be great if we got some of our whales out there And I know you're out there to step in and uh and help us out. That would be really cool So 20 dollar questions would be very much appreciated 50 dollars would be super appreciated 100 dollars 200 dollars 500 dollars um It would be fantastic. So, uh, yes, it would be great Uh to have you guys, um To have you guys Participate in the super chat today right now Um last time and this time it's it's been the lowest super chat numbers I've ever had So don't know what's going on. Maybe something systemic. Maybe it's just an accident. We will find out Um, I'll just take this question pretty quick before we uh jump into our first topic Liam asks Do you see yourself flying all over the world like this when you're 70 plus years old? I don't know. Um, maybe probably Hopefully It really depends on how I feel when I'm 70 years old how energized I am how much uh how this body is Holding up so far so good But you know, once you start getting old it deteriorates pretty quickly so, um I'm trying to stay physically fit. I'm trying to stay physically strong So that I can keep this going until I don't know until I can't uh, and I don't know when I can't so I'm hoping to delay as much as possible Um, but probably not at the pace I'm doing right now I mean this trip is another one of those ridiculous trips. It's a country a day Much of the trip is a country a day. Not all of it. So, you know, when I'm 70 Maybe I come to Europe and do three or four talks with him in a bit more leisurely way Um, maybe I'll even start doing that when I'm 65. Maybe even when I'm 62 we'll see. Um, so, um That's that's kind of the plan, but I don't know how long I'm going to how long am I going to do this show How long am I going to travel all over the world? How long am I going to You know, and and some of it depends on on the state of the world. I mean um, and and on whether I think I'm making any Dent in the world whether whether it is whether traveling around the world speaking Makes a difference whether I think makes a difference whether I think this makes a difference. So It there are a lot of factors in play um A lot of factors in play and of course you know, I I know you hate to hear it, but You know the fact that there's a lot of super chats and some days are just amazing when it comes to super chat is super motivating it just is money motivates and You know if super chat is if the super chat is super strong and viewership is super strong and there are a lot of live watches um Then that makes me more motivated to keep going and and to do this to this more By the way, it doesn't have to be super chat. It's just generally financial support people who value What I do enough to support it To support it financially So what do you think about the the dark background? Is this is good bad? I mean, do you like it? You don't like it. I can turn the lights on You know and you guys can tell me what you prefer, but I think it's kind of cool um Alicia says the dark room is tripping me out while I'm at the office pretending to be working digitally um Yeah, you know, I think this is better than the lights behind me um Hard for me hard for me to say so It's romantic happy avocado says I don't think I meant it to be romantic. It's not my intention happy avocado. All right Let's do this. I you know, I hate doing this, but let's do this. All right. So as you know uh, they'll protest in Iran and These are not just protests about a particular headscarf or Or a hijab or or any particular thing the protests have now turned to A fight for freedom Uh a rejection of the dictatorial authoritarian totalitarian really To the point of dictating women's clothing totalitarian regime Uh in iran, I cannot think of of a of a better cause right now to support I cannot think of a people You know, even more in a sense than the ukrainians fighting oppression fighting A dictator fighting for their lives and and the beauty of this Is that it started with young woman protesting the murder Of of a woman for showing some of her hair And it's it's grown and into the thousands All over iran in every city in iran the demonstrations It includes high school girls. It is led by young women primarily although Many many men seem to have joined and if you see video of the demonstrations You can see that it's men women all ages, but in a sense the spirit of it and and the Spirit of it is the spirit of young girls And they were the first to have the audacity and the courage To not just say oh, we want to change the rules about headscarfs or something like that But basically to say down with the dictator Basically to say down with the supreme leader down with this regime Basically to declare this not just a political protest about this or that issue But basically to declare this a revolution and this is unbelievable unbelievably um courageous and inspiring And and and amazing and something that requires support and and every Everybody who is free in the world or semi free in the world should be supporting them should be speaking up For them and as a as a country You want In particularly american government american government that for so many people around the world represents Liberty represents freedom. We all know it's immensely flawed. It's hugely flawed That this country, you know, it is not as free As any of us would like and as far from it, but for the rest of the world and in a relative basis People still look up from america As as the symbol of freedom and liberty in the world. It's certainly It's founding principles of the best That we've ever seen in terms of establishing country on those kind of foundations It's kind of it's tragic and sad that we don't live up to that But one of the things you would expect of the the leader of the free world if you will the the the country that at least Represents the free world is to speak up is for the government to speak up All right, you know, america should not be the policeman of the world. We shouldn't go around the world Establishing freedom and establishing freedom for countries It's not wanted sacrificing our kids and our wealth for their sake Fine We shouldn't I mean it's it would be moral first to engage in such activities We can talk about whether that applies to iran or not. I don't think that that issue applies to iran, but we'll talk about that but moral leadership and moral leadership doesn't require much moral leadership requires declaring evil where one sees evil moral leadership means supporting verbally from the bully pulpit from the white house and from congress supporting in words in sentiment The people fighting for their freedom moral support also involves not negotiating with the people who are pressing these young people the authoritarians the dictators While this is going on, of course, you should never negotiate with evil, but certainly not while The own population is rebelling against them in inspiring fashion like they are right now And so at the minimum, that's what you would like to see now Iran is a different case. Iran is a clearly an enemy of the united states Iran has been an enemy of the united states since 1979 and we'll get to Why they're an enemy of the united states, but they are an enemy of the united states whether We like it or not whether we think it's whether we cause that or not. They're an enemy Um and as such I think that it's incumbent on the united states to do whatever it can particularly if it short of war to actually eliminate the regime in iran and and and stop their animosity towards us replace the mullahs with a more secular More freedom already in a government and they won't be our enemy anymore And one of the jobs of the american government is to eliminate enemies It's to make us safer And we are not safe with iran as an enemy it funds terrorism It's developing nuclear weapons for a variety of reasons. We are not safe as long as iran is viewed as our enemy So here's an opportunity Not to go to war but just to help out Some freedom fighting young people who are trying to bring more freedom to their own country Helping them out by speaking up for them by providing them with moral courage and maybe sending them Weapons through back channels or in this case maybe Providing them with internet connection right smuggling in starlink satellite dishes and and and uh and uh servers to be able to Beat the the fact that iran has basically put a firewall or attempted to put a firewall Around its internet and prevent people from using the internet both to organize against the government and be able to Communicate with external world And you would think and this is and and so the biden administration is doing that that the smuggling is supposedly internet starlink receivers Biden has said a few things i don't think particularly strong, but he said a few things and supported the protesters in support of their goal um good for biden And you would think you would think That every person out there who supports freedom and liberty Who supports individual? liberty Would be in favor of this Would view this as as a good thing This is not russia iran doesn't have nuclear bombs. So you don't have to be afraid This is not russia where you could argue in some convoluted way. This is some ambiguity about putz's motives as some on the right do This is not that This is unequivocally an evil regime a a a Theocracy That is oppressing and suppressing and denying the rights of its women and the rest of its population And you'd think That everybody who believes in freedom everybody who believes in liberty everybody Who hates oppression? Would stand up and support? The protesters and support Whatever covertly the u.s. Government can do you know short of let's say war which is more controversial to change the regime Or to to at least support these protesters give them all courage But that is of course not the case when it comes to libertarians So i want to read you I don't know if i'll read the whole thing but parts of it because i'll get too angry parts of it of an editorial written by iven eland eland From the independent institute now the independent institute is an institute that Who's Founder and executive director who passed away a year or two ago He did my guts after 9 11 for the positions i took he used to Come to every conference that i'd speak at if i was on a panel speaking about anything It doesn't matter what it was he would come in front of the line and ask me what things like why i was for You know the genocide i don't know the bombing of civilians in iraq or in afghanistan or whatever So he would harass me constantly about what i'd written and what i've said About about war and about national defense So this does not surprise me This is again, this is not the mesas institute. This is independent. So now Give credit what credit is you the independent institute has a really a lot of really good Writers and economics they have a victor davis hansen is a scholar at independent institute he's not exactly a A pacifist but There is a huge pacifist streak with independence and a lot of stuff on economics they do is excellent Yes, it was david through. Oh, he used to follow me around and harass me. Um You think he'd have better things to do but he used to do that and eva if evan evan is Is the guy who writes for them on the middle east on foreign policy more broadly and it's terrible just awful But this is a new low This is a new low So here's the title of the commentary Will biden's support for iran protests backfire Backfire like what he writes although biden's policy of active assistance for the iranian protesters Is not as aggressive as trump's assassination of qasem salamani. It might be as dangerous I Don't even know where to start. I mean trump's assassination of qasem salamani was a weak act custom salamani was the head of of of the the the um national god in in uh in iran the the republican god in iran um responsible for the killing of uh americans all over the middle east all over the middle east from from helping In the bombing of the coba towers in sari arabia To assisting uh chisbala in the killing of american marines in beirut To and notice none of this is in iran but the killing and then the killing of of americans all over the middle east during the 1980s to The killings of americans in iraq and in syria during the iraq war The fact that all we did in response to all of that is assassinate one general is Pretty pathetic Pretty pathetic But no that is that is way too extreme right way too extreme You know assassinating Salamani Is really really dangerous because we really really need to be afraid of these uranians. They're really really dangerous I mean the fact that we have the mightiest military force in all of human history the fact that we could crush you on in days I mean irrelevant to these guys But put that aside What biden is doing by giving moral By by by giving more support to these protesters these young girls Is as dangerous Ooh, i'm so afraid of what the uranians will do to us Now we'll see that this is not so much motivated by fear of the uranians, but by Really what they believe motivates all us actions in the middle east and it's Borderline Anyway, i'm going to read you the first paragraph the by the administration unlike the administration of president barack obama Has decided to take active approach to aiding anti-government protests in iran in response to the death of a young woman This time for not wearing the required headscarf properly No moral No moral Outrage at the fact that she was killed for not wearing a scarf properly. Who cares it happened in iran They have sovereignty in iran. It's hey Who are we to tell the uranians how to govern their own people? Who are we to tell the uranians what to do or what not to do right? Iran is an independent country. These are these are like the anarchists But sovereignty. Oh, they kiss so much about shawty particularly more than anybody the sovereignty of authoritarian thugs I'm gonna get angry Because it pisses me off It will get to uh, obama later Not only did president joe biden not only the president joe biden publicly sighed with the protesters in a speech before the united nations But the u.s. Government may also help smuggle elon musk's starlink satellite system into iran so that the protesters can communicate musk has said that his system is now activated in iran to try to nullify Iranian government's attempts to shut down the internet communication services. Yay Shouldn't we be applauding shouldn't this be like the coolest thing ever shouldn't this be yes Oh, no This policy which warms the heart of interventionists interventionists like me On the american left and right Is justified with high flying rhetoric that the united states supports freedom fighters worldwide High flying retic but this is the real reason why we're helping the iranians Here's the real reason he says this in half a sentence and he never mentions this again But this is the kind of ugliness that lies behind So much of this libertarian cause but in it is really it but it is really an attempt To help overthrow a repressive theocratic government Okay, that sounds pretty good that is israel's major foe Not america's major foe not anybody else's but basically we are doing the bidding of israel The only reason we're sending in the only reason we care about these girls the only reason we're helping them is because I don't know the jews control america The israeli lobby controls america I mean there it is right there I didn't say it It's because of israel israel manipulates us israel controls us Talk about Borderline or maybe not borderline anti-semitic conspiracy theory nonsense. No america has no interest in iran. It's all I mean We probably thought that when you rock according to even iven I'm pretty sure this is true And have troops all over the middle east and have been in all of not because of our strategic blunders or our strategic mistakes Are but because of those jews because of those israelis. That's why we do we do it all for the sake of israelis This is a major libertarian. This is not some Third-rate marginal character. This is a major player major player In 2009 he goes on A year of widespread anti-government protests in iran in response to a rigged election obama took a more prudent and restrained approach by not publicly supporting the protesters I guess the israelis weren't as powerful within the uh, obama administration as they are in bightons Now notice prudent and restrained What does that mean? That means obama didn't support the demonstrators. Obama was a mawa coward obama Refused to stand up for freedom. I mean, I was critical of him now I've been critical of him since then one of the worst things obama administration did was it missed an opportunity 2009 to actually support a revolution in iran and instead the revolution was crushed Many many iranians were killed And the americans just stood by and did nothing they were much more interested in negotiating quote a deal with the theocrats with the thugs As a result the iranian government could not allege that the cia had sparked the protests and thus discredit them in the eyes of many iranians really The iranians that believe the supreme leader by the way the supreme leader just last week said that the current crisis The current protest the current revolution was inspired by the cia Say it does not stop. It does not stop their supreme leader from lying to them since when since when Did they only lie when we give them cause He's already said it before biden said anything before the starlink went in And the iranian people who believe that this is caused by the cia And not caused by the fact that their own Quote morality police killed a young woman Are they the people we care about? The people who believe the mullahs lies the theocrats lies I mean the iranians on the street The iranians fighting this revolution the iranians that actually want change They probably want the cia to come in and help them out, but no The cia always discredits and and and it's bad for the iranians. No, it's not that is a lie The iranians who want a revolution want the cia's help The iranians who want a revolution the iranians who value freedom the iranians who value liberty the iranians are fighting for their own lives right now They want Our intervention They're not going to be turned off by the fact that the cia is intervening They're going to support that intervention the people who don't want to see it intervene are the theocrats are the Are the theratarians are the dictators So he continues this time u.s Intelligence agencies could possibly even attempt to aid protesters by smuggling starling boxes into the repressive country. Oh my god They might they might give them starling satellites He continues at first blush this new more active policy might seem like a benign and cheap way To help overthrow the iranian government. Yes, it could Which has been violently opposed to the united states since its inception in the late 1970s And now notice this added sentence largely due to decade america's decades long backing the shah's budo regime really I mean, this is the problem with libertarians the pragmatic anti Ideas anti principles So they can't imagine that maybe The theocrats hate us because the theocrats And because we represent the exact opposite Yeah, that's unthinkable. I know after 9 11 when I said this is an ideological war the libertarians laugh. No They attacked us because we have troops in Saudi Arabia Which is complete and utter. I think the technical term is bullshit They attacked us because we are a threat to their ideology We're a threat to their existence. We're a threat to their whole view of the world If we as a secular country can be successful if we as a secular country can be strong if we as a secular country Can beat the crap out of them then What are their What is Allah to them? What's the point? America made a lot of mistakes in iran but the reason The reason the iranians Opposed to the united states since the 1970s has nothing To do with the fact that we backed The show of iran. It has nothing to do with the fact that we help depose a socialist From the government of iran in the early 1950s and everything to do with their ideology and everything to do with our ideology And if you don't believe that their ideology matters just look at them Look at how they dress look at how they behave look at how they treat they women They don't have to treat they women like that for me They don't treat their women like that because because the shah Something They treat they women the way they treat they women because of their ideology Because it's a way to control them But it's all based on an islamist ideology forget about how they treat the united states But of course they're going to hate the united states when they treat they women the way they do The one flows from the other the united states is Everything they hate represents everything they're opposed to But no no no no we're still 40 something years later The reason We in conflict with iran is because of the way we treated the shah I mean nobody, you know, they barely remember the shah there But that's the reason it's all america's fault every problem in the entire universe is america's fault Every problem in the globe is america's fault America is if you haven't noticed according to these bastards the Worst most evil regime ever because every other evil regime is only made possible by america The only reason That iran is opposed to the united states is because of the shah It's because of our fault what we did has nothing to do with that. They're perfect We evil Yet at the time the obama administration officials realized because they were smart this is obama. They're super smart Realized that u.s. Intrusion or any appearance they are for of might be counterproductive Two post-tests as efforts to win greater support in iran really So really what we're saying is the administration wanted the protest to succeed But they figured that the best way to allow it to succeed is not to support the protest Actually to negotiate with the government and because they didn't support the protest The protest would grow much bigger in iran because hey the evil empire america didn't support it. So it must be good How did that work out? I mean the convoluted logic that these people have to go through in order to justify this. No I mean left valenza when he Started a revolution in poland against the communists in the early 1980s Wanted american support and got american support and won in the end the revolution kick the commies out Would he have done it without reagan support we'd have done it without ronald reagan standing up And did the polls say oh god? if america's involved we're out We don't want to do this We can't fight for our own freedom if there are americans involved. No, no, no We can only fight for our own freedom if there's no american involved at all anywhere to be seen If the cias anywhere close, we're going The opposite of course happened Left valenza said after the fact that one of the things that gave them courage One of the things that gave them energy one of the things that gave them the confidence to succeed was american support Was ronald reagan calling? Soviet union the evil empire And it was the smuggling in a books the equivalent of the internet, I guess Into these countries into the this former soviet bloc books Of the ideas ryan rand of milton friedman of hayek of mesas and but no These libertarians would have told ronald reagan don't say anything you don't upset the russians that you know the russians Oh god, they have nukes don't upset the russians never stand up for the good guys because you might upset the russians Or the iranians or the fill in the blank authoritarian thugs let's Let's just every time there's a bully anyway. Let's just cowa let's just Oh my god, don't hit me All right, many of those obama officials including biden nasa security advisor jack sullivan now inhabit the biden administration and appear to regret their earlier strain Good for them sullivan recently expressed contrition for their alleged timidity a timid approach in 2009 What we learned in the aftermath of that is that you can overthink these things That the most important thing for the united states to do is to be firm and clear and principled in response to citizens Of any country demanding their rights and dignity now who who who? who Do you support more? the libertarian who writes this article or An obama official who just said that the united states should be firm and clear and principled in response to citizens of any country demanding their rights and dignity i'm with obama On this one obama official on this one jack sullivan. He's also a biden official That's the contrast and that's why sometimes I say libertarians A further from our view of liberty and freedom Than the left and right Further not closer. They're not our allies. This guy's not my ally sullivan on this issue is my ally I think he's a weakling and pathetic and what he did under the obama administration but He talks about firm clean principled. Wow I wish he was from clean principle uh Ivan continues that might have been an acceptable policy if biden had stopped with principled support for the protesters and speech at the But running a not so covert operation to provide protesters with satellite internet receivers to counter Iranian government attempts to shut it down Would be interfering in a country's internal affairs. Yes. This is the kind of country you want to interfere in their internal affairs A policy the second nature of the u.s. Government and of course evil according to them Which has attempted to meddle in other nations businesses global policemen for more than three quarters of a century Yeah, badly weekly and badly and and often for the wrong ideas and the wrong principles and all But in this case, these are the right principles. This is one worthy of interference He continues such intrusions to ostensibly correct the To ostensibly correct the internal human rights abuses even horrors in unfriendly nations seem like a great move to the idealistic american public But it is less welcome to the realist school of foreign policy The pragmatic school the fearful school the cowardly school and and and And usually as in this case the u.s. Government has ulterior motives helping israel. Remember, it's all about israel Intervention in other countries affairs can bring blowback from groups As seen in the heinous attack by a son bin Laden who was fed up with us interventionism in the middle east That's why it attacked us I mean, you should read bin Laden sometimes and and you tell me if that's in bin Laden Why don't we believe the people we read? Read site alkupt the inspiration behind al-qaeda the muslim brotherhood who was was killed by by nasa Read the muslim brotherhood read al-qaeda literature Listen to their speeches and you tell me that the primary motivation Not the excuse the primary motivation was used intervention in the middle east Blowback from groups other countries such as the russian meddling in u.s. elections in response of vladimir putin's belief That hillary clinton the secretary of state tried to intrude in russian elections I have no idea what the one has to do with the other It's a silly analogy. It doesn't work. But what I mean, this is the point The fundamental point here is we should be afraid The iranians are coming after us. We should be very very afraid and my question to that is why again We're the mightiest military force in all of human history. We might not be willing to use it, but we have it and we're afraid of a Third-rate nothing country like iran militarily nothing Why? That's he says the realism school advises against many unwanted interventions within other nations borders for purposes of promoting democracy Proposal democracy or for humanitarian purposes because dangerous wars Sometimes big ones can be triggered by such interference no matter how noble the purpose What's the big war that can happen here? World War three on iran? Maybe maybe ukraine and russia, but iran who's going to come to iran's defense who has nukes to protect them What are they talking about? Who are they so afraid of see it's now fear that really motivates them And I've said this before what motivates them is not Fear what motivates them is hatred of america what motivates them ultimately Is hatred of america asserting itself in any kind of way and what? animates them Is total moral subjectivism? Moral subject and political subject. It basically says who are we or anybody to intervene in the affairs of Iran they're a sovereign nation let them do what the hell they want Even if the intervention just means helping them with internet connection and standing up to them All right, let's skip a little ahead. Oh, this is the final paragraph Although by this policy of active assistance active assistance really active. Oh god. What are you doing sending them sending them? Artillery Active assistance the iranian protesters is not as aggressive president trump's assassination of yuan's number two leader The shoe of iranian retaliation for this incident likely has not dropped yet. Now you should be afraid be afraid The shoe of iranian retaliation for this incident is not dropped yet. It might be as dangerous countries usually get Quite upset when other nations meddle in the internal affairs and why should we care if other countries get upset? Especially when it is to overthrow the governments I mean if they do something really harshed us We could just overthrow the government. We don't need protests. We just get rid of the government. It wouldn't take that long And i'm not talking about wars like the iraq or pathetic, but we could just get rid of the molas a few cruise missiles and they're gone Therefore iranian retaliation for both these u.s interventions could come in a single horrific package Most likely against the u.s. Target or target overseas They hate america They hate freedom They hate the idea of universal principles The idea of of of The universality of liberty and freedom They hate the idea of standing up and and defending the good Because who's anybody to say what the good is? They're moral and political subjectivists and as moral and political subjectivists They're as bad as the worst on the left and the worst on the right More reason why i don't call myself a libertarian All right, you know, i think i'm gonna skip the next topic the topic of minnesota just because there's a lot of super chat questions and I don't intend this to be a particularly long show because i'm tired. It's late So i'm thinking we do um I'm thinking we do um Super chat questions and then um And then we call it a night Of course, you can keep asking super chat questions, particularly if they're 20 or more We are way off our goal. We're about we've raised about 200 dollars We so we got 436 small dollars to go to get to our goal. So it would be great If we could make the goal But whatever, uh ask questions, uh, please if you're going to ask questions making $20 or more because I have quite a few already Um, and as I said, I don't want to go too late today I'll probably do a show on saturday. I'll probably do a show on sunday I'm not sure what times it depends on events and everything else around them But I will try to let you know in advance um, and what i'll do is i will cover this story out of the university of minnesota about medical students on that show so Okay, unless The super chat questions go like this and then maybe we can cover it now. Let's see what happens All right, awi Thank you 50 bucks really appreciate it Uh, really bummed. I won't be able to see you in berlin, but I appreciate the show and immense value you provide Thank you and thanks awi And uh, yeah, sorry, you're not going to be around in berlin. It was an opportunity. I don't know how often i'm going to be speaking in berlin We'll see maybe more often friend harper says adventures In Old ybs shazbot's first donation was in early august 2020 cheers to shazbot. How do you know that? How do you know shazbot's? First donation was in early august 2020 Yeah, that's pretty amazing shazbot has been one of the the best supporters of the show on super chat primarily by um by Funding movie reviews and show reviews So, uh, thank you shazbot. Thank you friend harper Really appreciate it start vadim What do you think of thank you 50 bucks? Really appreciate it. What do you think of tomasoul? I mean watching his videos and sounds like an objectivist in terms of business and education Why haven't his ideas penetrated counter educational system? I mean tomasoul is very good He's very good on on many of the things he talks about And business economics and issues of race he's excellent and and You know, I I'm I like a lot of his work and support a lot of his work But he's also conventional. He's he's he's uh supportive christianity He is um You know, he's not always consistently as laissez-faire as I'd like him to be And he's not philosophical in a sense that he You know, as I've said the only way You're going to penetrate the only way you're going to change the world The only way we're going to have real influence long term Is if we're willing to challenge the status quo not just in economics Not just in politics, but also in philosophy and ethics in particular and in epistemology and tomasoul belongs to kind of a the better conservative Considered as such the material view. I think he's better than most Better than almost anybody out there. He's one of the real heroes, but he's he's just not An objectivist he doesn't take the the the the mall position. He doesn't accept The mall position. He doesn't reject christianity. He's a moral ideal We need tomasoul's objectivism needs people like tomasoul's with with that kind of Intellectual heft that a tomasoul has we need a lot of them. That's how we'll change the culture Yeah, he's he's big on culture. I'm I'm I agree with him culture is essential But culture is a consequence of philosophy Culture is a consequence of ideas bad ideas need to bad culture good ideas need to good culture And it's the philosophical I can't speak the philosophical battle then we must win if we're going to win The cultural battle and that's fundamentally what it's all about and that's That's what That's what it would be great if somebody like a tomasoul Was an objectivist, but he's not and as a consequence even some of his Even some of his Economic stuff is just not as lots of fears. I'd like it to be Nathan for 20 bucks. Thanks for the work you do appreciate it. Nathan. Thank you friend Harper says my first you're on brook Exposure was a talk you gave talking about allies to objectivism Thanks for that. I would have spent a lot of time confused before realizing Realizing how in principled libertarians are allies are allies are tricky. Yes, very tricky You have to be very very careful with allies and you have to think about what you are Allying to do what what the purpose of having allies is They're not allies of the philosophy. So what are the allies of what are you trying to achieve? They don't show up political philosophy has reflected what I just read. All right Let's see if if these are all the questions we're going to have then maybe I can do the section on minnesota Michael asks as liberty shrinks does this fear of social harmony shrink? Trust levels and harmony will begin to decline dramatically over the next decade. Yeah, I mean as liberty shrinks Sense of life it goes away harmony goes away trust goes away and you know unfree countries unfree places unfriendly places Because They got places that refer to a zero sum world where your gains is my losses my loss is your gains so Yes, as there's no questions. There's a strong relationship between liberty and harmony Harmony harmony of interest goes away when we're all struggling to grab a piece of that pie Because we're not free to engage in win-win non-pie related activities Okay, james says I'm starting to not cut To not cut people as much slack For not understanding objectivism at a certain point you have to bring your own ability to see the truth to the table Yes, yes, and you got to take responsibility for your own thinking You've got to expect other people to take responsibility for their own thinking Yes, but Just don't be too quick and too harsh because objectivism is hard And it takes time to integrate it and understanding objectivism is is not a simple process Hopper Campbell do most people not know the steps it takes to achieve their own self-esteem is that why We see such an abundance of immaturity and narcissism Yeah, I mean I think people Well, it's more than just self self-esteem self-interest. What does self-interest mean people confuse self-interest with narcissism they confuse self-interest with Emotionalism both are immature so so what you're seeing is A lack of understanding people wanting to pursue self-interest knowing that they should in some way pursue self-interest because altruism is just too destructive And too horrific But landing up being stuck with nihilism and immaturity and in hedonism and narcissism and and and and facing a dead end and They're for never gaining self-esteem and never knowing self-interest So it's sad because These are things you have to figure out. These are things you have to be to in the world we live in today taught How to achieve self-esteem what self-interest really entails and how to achieve it. Let's see Michael Do the Iranian protests show tyranny can't last forever human population will always discover freedom to various degrees over time Yeah, likely. I mean remember Iranian tyranny is not in a vacuum Iranians do have access to the internet. They can use VPNs. They can get around them. They know That there is freedom elsewhere. They know there people who live differently than they do That helps but yes tyranny does not last Freedom does win out in the end, but the question is how long and what are the casualties in the meantime? What is the cost? for attaining freedom, but It is there to be attained all right, um white Fox white fox 99 I vaguely remember you once saying that john allison would have been imprisoned If he did not accept top bailout money during the void recession, what legal status dictates that? What is the solution? No, I don't think he would have been imprisoned But the bank would have uh, basically being forced either to go bankrupt Or into real distress So what the regulators were basically threatening? john allison's bank not him personally, but the bank of course he was ceo Was that if he didn't sign? If he didn't accept top They would come in and and write down all his loans so he didn't have enough capital So he would have to so they were going to dramatically hurt the bank Hurt its shareholders Hurt its ability to survive maybe If he didn't accept top What can be done about it a capitalist revolution? You know you just stand up to the bastards, but uh as john does verbally, you know, you can't you can't just Surrender your your enterprise to them, but you can stand up to them. You can talk about it. You can um Speak out against it. You can make a big deal of it Uh michael asked could john allison win governorship in his home state? We could get everyone from the iran book show to fly out and campaign for him. I think he was um approached He didn't want it. He's not he's not interested in politics I think he could have won I think he had a good chance of winning it would have been amazing if he had um But he never wanted it. Uh, you know he could have been On the on the on the um Federal reserve board and he didn't want that either, but but he wasn't interested in politics. He's a strong believer That what we need is education and you can't you can't solve these things from the top down thank Asks can a person have a right to something that's illegal Yeah, of course For instance, a woman has a right to an abortion, but the procedure itself is illegal, of course Your rights have nothing to do with the law your rights are your rights you have a right to Take whatever drugs you want even though they're illegal you have a right to have an abortion even though it's illegal you have a right to Basically have a right to live your life based on your own judgment You're free to act in pursuit of your rational values That those rights are illegal those rights are being violated constantly by the government through its legal system so Your rights do not come from law your rights precede law Law is supposed to be codified to protect your rights Unfortunately, many of the laws in the book today are codified to violate your rights Still have the rights just because they're violated doesn't mean you don't have them Richard witt, uh, thank you for 30 dollars. Appreciate it. Uh, Richard writes Uh, enjoyed your appearances on pj tv Those are the days on ellen barton show those that was a long time ago. Thanks for remembering, Richard The things I liked on pj tv went away ellen barton polywood, etc bill widow and the bald guy did the uh amateur critique of iron man and objectivism What happened? You know, I think that what happened was they weren't um They weren't trumpish enough They weren't trumpest enough. They weren't cutting edge enough. They weren't radical enough. They weren't crazy enough They were radical but radical, you know bill widow when he was good And it was radical in the site of liberty and freedom Allen barton was radical in the site of liberty and freedom and then when trump showed up That just wasn't interesting freedom and liberty weren't interesting Uh, what was interesting was was the culture war was interesting was hating the left was interesting is worshiping trump and and All the different publications with exception of maybe the waltz tree journal Did that that were advocates of freedom liberty to some extent or another Faded in influence. Um During the trump years now pj tv was Was problematic for other reasons as well because I don't know that it reached the beginning of audience. I don't know if the business model was right I don't know if they figured out how to monetize it all This is you know before patreon. They could have monetized a lot of stuff too there But I think the big thing was the shift in the republican party away from ideas Away from principles away from freedom and liberty and towards Whatever You know towards national conservatism and whatever donald trump says brice asks The immigration system around the world is being infected with altruism We house feed and transport immigrants and this incentive incentives people who can't take care of themselves What goodies did they give you when you arrived? I didn't get any goodies they placed all kinds of restrictions on me um My wife couldn't work I couldn't work off the university campus I got I had to pay out of state tuition until I got a job at the university But I I got no goodies But you know, I think I think much worse than the house feed and transport Which is bad Much worse than that is the fact that we ban immigration Right That's the real evil of the immigration system and of course If you allowed for legal immigration for example as I proposed For jobs matching immigrants with job seekers. There's still millions of jobs that are unfilled in the united states today because Americans either don't want them or can't or don't have the skills to do them You could have millions of people immigrating to the united states and the number and and and uh Everybody would benefit from that But the problem with the immigration system is there's no Good positive robust legal immigration system today The whole entire immigration system is broken It's it's so broken and and it's so difficult for people good people to come in legally that we have illegal illegal immigration problem But even that is only a problem because we make it a problem so The altruism is everywhere. By the way, um We house feed and transport americans not just immigrants and europeans I mean the amount of redistribution we make to our own poor people poor people who You know a group in america who have the opportunities of america and yet we give them welfare How excited can you get about giving welfare to immigrants? Who grew up in hell holes? When you're giving immigrant when you're giving native borns welfare when they grew up in america and they should be Well often enough not to need welfare anyway, um Immigration is a big topic which I still promise to show on I will get to it but um Uh an altruism is everywhere in it throughout the thing But if you know It's it's it's truly is horrible. It's truly an infected system a destructive system Um, all right, let's do the university of minnesota. This will be fun. Uh, it's quick. I think Uh, let me see how I do this one second. I'm gonna go here No, not this one. Let me go a different board here to shift To there, okay. That's good. You can see me twice now on youtube And then we're gonna go there All right, you can see this guy, right? all right, um so This is a guess a graduation ceremony at the university of minnesota. I I think I've authenticated this. I think this is legit um I've I've founded a number of different sources around the web um This guy does you know, he's wearing the uniform It's hard to believe that this is real But it looks like it is I'm gonna play it. It's um You know, I don't know how Well, you're gonna hear. I hope you hear well. Let me know in the chat How the sound is and and whether you're hearing this I'm gonna point the microphone towards the computer speakers where it's gonna be broadcast out of um, and um I don't know. I might stop it in the middle. I might let it play through I'll probably stop it in the middle because it's so horrific. Um, this is a graduation ceremony This is like the Hippocratic oath that all the Graduating medical students say at the end of it. I don't know if this was required or wasn't required um, but Here it is. So let's let's play this thing. Uh, those of you watching on video There are subtitles so you can follow along there if you can't hear this well, but hopefully hopefully you can hear it as well Let me know how the sound comes online Oops clicking the wrong place. Here we go With gratitude We the students of the university of minnesota twin cities medical school class of 2026 Stand here today among our friends families peers mentors and communities So I guess at least these are not At least these are not students who are graduating. This is the class of 2026 I don't know what the context exactly of all this is And if you look at the audience in the background, it looks like a bunch of Uh minorities that are there. I'm not sure exactly what the context of that is I don't know exactly the context of this event but listen to the words, um because this is um, this is so indicative of The dominance of world culture in our leading institutions and many of our governing institutions and including on medical schools Which is maybe one of the most scariest places that this exists. Listen to what they actually say We have supported us in reaching this milestone Our institution is located on dakota land. So we've talked about this You have to you have to declare your sin for uh, actually For actually having an institution on dakota land, whatever the hell that means Um, it was dakota land. I don't think it is dakota land anymore It is it is the land of the business school. They actually did something with the land They built something on it. The dakotas were probably treated pretty badly by the u.s authorities in the 19th century but that was a long long time ago get over it and and You know, instead of bemoaning that past let's celebrate the amazing stuff that was done with the dakota land by building this uh Minneapolis sin paul these cities civilization It's not enough to acknowledge it This is reparations. This is i don't know what it is This is let's grovel. Let's whip ourselves. Let's it's whatever whatever it is. Let's um God this is this is this is insanity woke crt insanity We commit to uprooting the legacy and perpetuation of structural violence deeply embedded within the health care system Structural violence embedded in the health care system Structural violence. What is structural violence violence is me slapping you what a structural violence Where there's a machine that every time you enter room slaps you what does that even mean? Do these words mean anything to anybody? Is there discrimination going on in the minnesota health care system if there is I'm not saying there isn't if there is then let's deal with the discrimination Structural violence deeply embedded within the health care system. Really this is just I am sinful. This is uh augustine whipping himself for the sin of you know Being alive existing being human and and here it's a sin of being successful We recognize inequities built by past and present traumas rooted in white supremacy colonialism the gender binary gender binary Yeah, I mean there's one uh, you know Uh this civilized modern world with modern medicine Medical schools iPhones satellites, this is all built on the oppressive gender binary And of course the next one is even better ableism we discriminate in favor of the able now This is unbelievable, right because These are some of the most able people in the country I hope Don't you hope I mean, I hope that the medical school at the university of minnesota doesn't accept students Who are not able It doesn't accept idiots unintelligible unintelligent people can't cope Who don't know If ableism is a problem in a sense of Caring about ability If it's a problem Then what's the solution for medical schools egalitarianism except everybody? Don't have standards This is really really scary stuff and look at them dozens of them. They're just standing there Now, I don't know who this audience is. It's the whole thing is a little weird So I don't know what the nature of the ceremony is exactly if somebody wants to research this and find out that'd be great uh, but God This is scary scary scary stuff ableism and all forms of oppression So gender binary is a form of oppression me not recognizing that the 96 genders is a form of oppression We enter this profession with opportunity for growth We commit to promoting a culture of anti-racism Culture of anti-racism now if this was just regular language if this was english Who's against a culture of anti-racism war for a culture where there's no racism? But that's not what anti-racism means anti-racism Is I did a whole show on anti-racism in 2020 anti-racism means anti White racism it means whites if you have white skin if you happen to have white skin if you were born with white skin then um You must uh You can try you must uh, you you know, you're sinful. You're inherently sinful. There's nothing really you can do to overcome the sin Uh, you you are you are bad In and of itself Niko says this must be a joke. I hope so If somebody can show me this video as a joke That would be make my day make my day Yeah, scott can only think in terms of uh democrats and republicans. I've made him stop voting democrat. All right I I've already talked about binary thinkers. All right, uh, let's keep listening Listening and amplifying voices for positive change We pledge to honor all indigenous ways of healing This is this is a cool one, right? They pledge to honor all indigenous ways of healing This is at a modern medical school Now there are lots of problems with modern medicine But there are even bigger problems with indigenous ways of healing god I don't want I don't want these doctors anywhere near me I don't there's one state. I'm not moving to If this if this is really part of it. This is one state. I'm not moving to Yeah, this is a prayer. Thank you brie. Absolutely a prayer. This is religious ceremony. It's a prayer It's I have sinned forgive me god And uh, I I promise not to sin I promise to be contrite and I probably to respect Everybody who's more ignorant than me as a doctor. I will respect even ignorant barbaric primitive mystical unproven Remedies is equal to mine. This is multiculturalism to the nth degree. This is the end of egalitarianism This is what egalitarianism is all about historically marginalized by western medicine Maybe because most of them are not very scientific Some is good. Some is not scientific. So We don't listen to witch doctors anymore We've marginalized them Isn't that terrible? But this is this is exactly that moral equivalence. Everybody's the same. There's no difference Everybody's morally equivalent Not just morally equivalent. Everybody's equivalent in everything in knowledge and goodness and everything Chop down the good Eliminate modern medicine for the sake of Don't make the barbarians feel bad that they look down upon And we got to put in mother gear, you know mother earth and health is intimately connected to environment And therefore these doctors are going to commit to healing the earth The sociologists they're going to heal the communities. They're going to heal earth They're going to heal everybody. That's their job. The doctors after all again keep me away from minnesota We vow to embrace our role as community members and strive to embody cultural humility Cultural humility. What's they got to do their doctors? You ever seen the show house? The show house was fabulous, particularly the first two seasons There's a right treatment and there's a wrong treatment. There's facts. There's nonsense We focus on facts. I would like to Do this speech over and talk about facts evidence science reality achievement progress And yes, modern medicine has its problems But the way to fix them is more science more evidence more reality focus How are you going to restore trust in the medical system when you're basically Announcing that the modern medical system is the equivalent of voodoo medicine We commit to collaborating with social political and additional systems to advance health equity Learn from the scientific innovations made before us and pledge to advance and share this knowledge with peers and neighbors We recognize the importance of being in community with and advocating for those we serve Okay, that's it I don't know that I have to comment much on that. I mean, this is this is why so many people make a big deal about woke and and uh and uh critical race theory and White fragility and all the all the nonsense the subjective post modern nonsense that goes with it This is This is uh, you know, this is why This is why a culture is going to hell this and and the response on the right Is why the culture is going to fail. We get this on the one side and the response to this is No, no, no, we don't want those mistakes. We want to we want our mistakes We want we want to embrace christianity. We want to embrace the nation and there's nobody Who is talking about reason science Nobody talking about capitalism and liberty and freedom Is the solution to to woke culture? there's nobody In a sense representing the the the founding fathers in our political debate today There's this woke insanity uh complete subjectivism A complete egalitarianism And on the flip side, there's there's right wing subjectivism Um and and a complete negation of of individual rights, which both sides agree on. It's just which one So, um, there you go your medical schools This is why democrats are going to lose Because americans see this and they flip out they flip out In almost almost everywhere they flip out All right, we have a bunch of Super chat additional or not a bunch two super chat questions. We're still way behind our goal. We're like halfway to our goal so Whoops, that was that was the medical school We're like halfway to the goal I know some of you want to chime in and help us get to the goal All right, uh lee says for 20 pounds. Okay. How are you on please? Could you refute the following? Quote russia is a prime example of why the west is right to regulate biotech They rushed out the spritnik vaccine without rigorous testing and it turned out to be Second rate. Oh, wow. I thought when it when it started out russia. I was thinking, okay I have to refute something with regard to the war in ukraine But this is with regard to the fda the fda why we need an fda um not just with spritnik vaccine pretty bad, but um The chinese vaccines have been terrible terrible and and it's really interesting some of the This is an aside unrelated to lee's questions, but i'm just i just been wanting to say this for a while. It turns out that um the chinese are desperate to bring in an mRNA vaccine into china so they can stop locking down their cities and um they are a They're struggling to make mRNA vaccines in china Science turns out maybe is not as simple Moderna and fiza bio entech Will weigh ahead of the curve in in knowing the science, but producing it is hard producing it is not simple um and When they try to negotiate with the bodona the uh, the chinese said, um We will take your vaccines And uh, what we will do with those vaccines what we want the ip We want you to give up the intellectual property rights in china so we can do whatever we want with the With the property rights and that and Moderna said no way and walked away. So Moderna refused To produce vaccines in china and to supply them to the chinese population Um, it sounds like bio entech and fiza have come to some deal with a chinese biotech company And they are actually producing mRNA vaccines in china Soon to be delivered to the chinese population, but a lot of people I saw online was saying one of those mythologies Um, you know the vaccines the mRNA vaccines in particular are really really bad because even the chinese won't take them No, the chinese are not taking them because they can't get their hands on them They would love to have them because of all the vaccines are the most effective With all the challenges that the mRNA vaccines posed Whether to some extent it's the young people or whether to a great extent is the fact that they They reduce, uh, the severity of disease, but they don't reduce Or they don't dramatically reduce the probability of getting it and the probability of transmitting it to others All right, so but what you're asking is about uh, fda So let's say what would happen in a world where there wasn't an fda, right? Because my argument would be no Russia has an fda It's just that russia's fda is even worse than our fda and is it has different incentives in our fda And it's even more politicized than our fda and in russia. It's not that russia's unregulated Russia's very regulated It's so regulated that fda in russia does whatever the dictator tells them to do and in russia the dictator told them to rush the vaccine through and therefore the vaccine Without the proper testing and the vaccine wasn't very good Um, but what would happen in a free country without an fda not in russia But in a free country russia's not a good example for anything Would there be no testing? Would there be no rigorous trials? I would argue quite the contrary Of course, they would they would be because consumers would demand it They would be because we would not want to use drugs that were not rigorously tried And and and and shown to be effective and shown to be safe Doctors wouldn't prescribe drugs that were not tried And and made effective Um, so in a in a in a free market There is a desire For trials and information and an effectiveness of safety, but no fda. So what would happen? Well entities would have to come about profit seeking entities or nonprofit seeking entities But entities private entities would have come about that provided doctors and patients with the information Maybe for a fee who knows how they would monetize it, but they would basically run the trials privately and they would compete And they would compete to be good to be accurate So the doctors and the public would use them subscribe to their services if that would And indeed, I think that the screening would be better than the fda better than the fda in two dimensions One is I think competitive practices would drive the whole industry To change the way it does trials to to make them better at identifying issues and identifying problems and better at identifying and and and Identifying risks and and creating A way in which patients and doctors can understand the risks So what these agencies would do is they wouldn't have The capacity of law to ban a drug, but they could give it a rating They could give it their approval or disapproval and leave it to patients and doctors to decide if to use the drug or not But they could also provide information and education about the drugs they risk So they could say this drug is really good at curing this disease, but 10 percent of people who take it die Or develop a rash or and they would provide information and the more accurate the information was the more the doctors and patients would appreciate it And the more money they would make potentially so The business model exactly of how this would be done is hard to tell but of course you need rigorous testing But the rigorous testing would happen and would be more rigorous in a sense faster and more accurate and Be more accepting of risk. That is if you if if you if in your trial some people I don't know had really bad side effects You wouldn't just dismiss the drug you would disclose that fact and let patients and doctors decide if they're willing to take the risk I you know This drug causes an increase of 10 percent in the likelihood that you have a heart attack. Okay. Well, maybe it's worth it for me Shouldn't I and my doctor be the judges of that not some bureaucrat So my answer to that is we want a rigorous testing System. I want it to be private. I want it to be competitive. I want the best Vadim, thank you 50 50 bucks. Thank you Do you think the characters for dc comics joker was inspired by the character from the novel the man Who laughs by victor who go? No, I mean, I I don't think so. I mean the the man who laughs was was he An eyelist to the extent that the joker is an eyelist I don't think so. I can't imagine if that's the case So no, I don't think so. Maybe his outward appearance But not maybe his outward appearance, but not the character. Thank you, uh, Vadim Richard, perhaps this will help counter the video University of michigan medical students walk out during anti-abortion keynote speaker speech Yeah, I mean I don't think it counts of the video But it's good that, um You know, at least they're at least a pro-abortion But it doesn't quite relieve me from thinking that they've just committed to Respecting as equals Primitive or any cultures so-called medical treatments And declaring their guilt for being white or whatever So I don't know if that quite helps me out Okay, last question tasey Have you ever had a group of people underestimate you? Do you think that's the attraction of many readers to how it works? How much of Rand you think was in him and how big was his win in the end? I mean his win in the end is Is everything it's life. It's happiness. It's It's it's everything So it's as big as it gets um How much of Rand you think was in him? I think a lot I think Rand was a giant like how it worked Do you think that's the attraction of many readers the fact that he's underestimated? I think that he's an underdog That he looks like he's gonna fail But by sticking to principles he succeeds. I think that's part of their traction I think the story of an underdog is an appealing story Um, everybody's against them society is against them the culture is against them The architectural establishment is against him And he succeeds and in that sense. Yes That's part of definitely part of his appeal Okay, by the way for those of you in the uk. I will be on the mark dolan show on friday. I think at 9 20 And I will probably be on the neil oliver show On saturday after seven o'clock. I'm still waiting to hear confirmation about that but that is probably going to happen All right, everybody Thank you. I really appreciate all the superchatters. 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