 Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hi! Hi! It compels your nipples! N-n-nub them. What is it? Nub them? Nubbin. Nubbin. Yeah. Goodbye, nubbin. What? The nubbin. Behold. The nubbin. What is that? It's-it's Chandler Bing's third nipple. Oh. Hey, welcome back to our stupid directories. I'm Chandler Bing. And you follow us on Instagram, Twitter for more juicy content. And on Patreon, am I right people? Don't forget to like the button. Yeah! Matthew Perry's not doing too uh... Oh bless his heart. He's doing much better now. No, I'm saying he made a stupid comment. You'd make that comment. What did he do? You would in a-any day of the week. You would make that comment. No. I would-I would comment on- You would absolutely say- No. Why is Heath Ledger here and Keanu Reeves is- No. Why is Heath Ledger gone and Keanu Reeves is to walk around? One, most two things are irrelevant to each other. You detest Keanu Reeves. No. I think he's one of the best people in Hollywood actually. I do. I know- He's a person. Yeah. That's why I wouldn't want to wish you he was dead. He apologized. He was wishing he was dead. He did it twice. Yeah. But he did apologize. How do you do that with a guy that's the nicest Keanu Reeves? He's like the nicest guy in Hollywood. It's probably the worst person you could pick up on. In his-in his book. It's literally the worst person you could pick up on. Matthew Perry talked about working with people like um... Chris Farley and River Phoenix and Heath Ledger and how unfair it is in the world that they would be taken away and be gone and he said basically why are they gone and Keanu Reeves is walking around. It's like the worst person you could pick a fight with because everybody loves Keanu Reeves as a person. He's such a nice guy. Anyway, today we're doing a movie of you. And it's of the 2008 film, 1920. Don't get those two confused. It's not a 1920 film, about 2008. Although there is, that film is very good. It stars Boris Karloff, Benson Price and Corbin's mom. Oh wow, geez. And it's a threesome. Oh wow, geez. Directed by Vikram Bhatt, also written by Vikram, the story of Vikram Bhatt as well. I looked at it and I was like, why do I know that name? The song we reacted to the other day was Roz. My nipple is still hot from your whack. Oh really? Yeah, it feels good. The song from Roz that we reacted to, it was supposed to be a spooky film. Even though the song wasn't spooky, I think he directed that one as well. That's why I was like, I looked at Vikram Bhatt. And I still don't know if he's related to the Bhatt family. He absolutely is, his last name is Bhatt. No, the Bahlia Bhatt. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you just meant, like he just took the name and said, I want to have this last name, even though it's not my own. And it's show up to Thanksgiving dinner starring these two right here, say their name for me. Yes, Rajanis, Dugal and Adesh Sharma. And those are the main two leads. And then obviously the little extra supporting cast. But obviously it came out in 2008. So it would be 100% four of you have watched it. Go watch it. And it just goes out saying there's a cameo by the devil. Oh wow, jeez. The devil shows up. Spoilers. Rude. Not his best performance, but... Anyways, and also we're watching this because I wanted to get to some spooky movies, just like Bahoot. Boot. Boot. Boot. Yeah, you said Bahoot, but that's good because that's what I would do too because there's so many of those H and guttural and nasal things that we don't do. Boot. And I try, and my Indian wife looks at me like, poor little white boy. I wish you guys had a word for white people. Boot. Like Mexicans have... They do, it's called... Dumb. No, Mexican called gringos. Yeah, gringos. And other stuff. Crackers. A lot of other more vulgar things. Anyways, but... Honkies. Colonizers. Colonizers, that works. That's fitting. Anyways, Rick, your initial thoughts, please. Ultimately, I like it. And I like it for the same reason I like the Chicago Cubs. That's a weird comparison. That is really strange. I'll explain why. How do you not like the Chicago Cubs? If you're not familiar with Major League Baseball here, they're like, everybody wants them to win. They did win you. They've... Finally. Finally. But like, they're always the struggling team, but they're always doing their best. And that for me is there's so many things in this that have flaws, but they're trumped by the ambitiousness of this. The very clear, passionate attempt to do something that I can talk about all the superlatives about for all of its flaws, because it has quite a few flaws. Ultimately, I liked it. And I told Indrani that I would recommend this. If somebody's a cinephile and they want to know the evolution of certain genres in certain countries' films, I think this is an important film for people to see, to understand horror and what it is in Indian cinema. And I think it was a pretty like-but, a pretty brave attempt at something that felt really, really genuine. I overall liked it. I do agree. There was quite a bit of flaws. Yeah, there's a lot of flaws, but... In a lot of aspects of the film, like acting, writing... Yeah, some story issues. Yeah, so obviously it's VFX. There's some issues all over, but overall, I think there was a lot more good than bad. Agreed. And you can also, since it's not... Because they're like... One of the big issues is that a lot of the performances aren't incredibly great. They're like, I think she did a really good job. Especially, it's their debut performances, which was saying a lot that the director and producers would trust this with brand new people. But even the supporting cast and some of the writing was a little clunky, I'd say. But luckily, that's not really the star of this. You're not driven by the performances outside of her, probably. Yeah. And what she doesn't more in the second half. It's more about the creepiness. In this film, I think I would put it in now my top five recommendations for Halloween films because it's probably one of the more creepy ones. It is one of the... That and Boot. And this one probably even more so because it's obviously a couple years later and it's just an overall creepy vibe of the entire time. I would just tell people like, okay, you'll go in. It's kind of an exorcism kind of feely film. There are flaws, but just try to go in with low expectations and I think you'll enjoy it. That's how you feel going on to a Chicago Cubs game. You go in hoping for the best. You watch. It doesn't always turn out, but you still love the fact that this is... There's genuineness. There's great desire to do well. And all of that for me, when a film is really going out of its way, then you can see it's going out of its way to be the best it can be in spite of its flaws. That's ultimately why I like it. You can maybe tell me this. Was there exorcism in films before the exorcist? I know there were spirits and people were possessed by certain things. Exorcism... Because obviously after exorcism, I feel like most things that have exorcism have been inspired by the exorcist. I had just watched the exorcist about a week and a half ago, so it's very refreshing in my mind. Were there a lot of exorcism films before the exorcist? No. There were not a lot. And there was nothing that came even remotely close to being... from the exorcist. I think pretty much every film that depicts demonic possession since the exorcist in some way, shape, or form is borrowing. It is, to the genre, what Michael Jackson is to pop music. Inescapable. You see it everywhere. It was that groundbreaking. You could definitely tell, obviously, it's just hard to get away from certain elements of the exorcist being so iconic and just like in But as well. But also, both of that and this do it a little differently. It's not specifically the devil. I guess it could be right, but it's more somebody else possessing somebody else. Well, this was far more... It was one of the problems I would have with the story is that it didn't make a decision about that. But did. It was the dead woman in her. 100% all of the time. We just didn't know that until the payoff. Yeah, I guess it could have been either that guy or the devil was possessing that guy and then decided to stick around. Yeah, and at times it could have been the girl, the woman that had been there that had... Oh, yeah. ...with the guy, and it kind of went back and forth. And that was one of the things I wish there had been a clear, linear... It's one of the things that is the greatness among many, many things. And I say greatness with big asterisk for a lot of reasons that are not cinematic. Some of them are. But one of the brilliant things about The Exorcist is the fact that it is extremely simple. Yeah, oh, yeah, it was a very simple movie. The story is very... I mean, if you read the log line describing it, it's exactly what you're going to get for the whole thing. Yeah. And even Bladdy who wrote the book and the gameplay recognized the difference between the two art forms and said, I'm cutting to the chase, I'm getting rid of all of this stuff and I'm keeping it very streamlined. Whereas this got a little... It got a little Bollywood. Little out of whack. A lot of people comment whenever I say I loved songs and movies and my evolution on the channel. This is one of the films I did not want the songs in it. Although I think it took me out of the film. There was one song that I wanted in it and it doesn't fit but I just loved the main item number with the... I don't know who that actress dancer is but she was the Helen of the moment with the scorpion tattoo on her stomach. It was a cool song and it was a sexy moment and as I'm watching it I'm like... Would you put this in The Exorcist? Indian Cinema Will Indian Cinema Will I think they were probably like one of the best songs in this whole thing and they were all good songs and I'm not saying they weren't good songs just like in Satya and it was Vishal Bharadwacha's song which was a great song, a fun song. I didn't think that fit in that film. I agree. I think it took me... I was like okay we're in a creepy vibe and we're cool and then you go into an item number and I'm like... Man you just kind of took me out of it a little bit. I agree. I like the item number that fits us in that space. Some films, even though I know it's India doesn't need songs. A lot of films do and I've grown to enjoy a lot of songs in films because I think it's a nice break a lot of times and if it fits but this is one of the ones that was like I don't know if I... I wanted that in there. I agree and I can get into the... Do Home How much do you know for example of there are some things, they're not the only film that does it that do copy not the storyline but certain traits of someone who's possessed. There's exorcist copies but like I said it's like if you watch music videos today you're gonna see Michael's moves in people's bodies. So it's kind of like anytime cinema depicts demonic possession you're gonna get the eyes that look like that you're gonna get the voice that sounds like that you're gonna get floating above the bed or a mattress shaking items moving because it's from that and that's also not just because of the exorcist but the exorcist if you didn't know is loosely based on true events that happened in 1949 here in America with a boy named Roland Doe is the name that he goes by it's not his original German name but if you look that up and if you look up all of the things that happened exorcist you'll know why I and if you don't think about me and my past in the occult you'll know why I don't like the exorcist although there's no doubting it's an incredibly well made film at every level deserving of its nominations and deserving of its place in American cinema history is one of the greatest if not the greatest horror film of all time I just hate the film so performance wise I thought she did a really good job for a debut performance I thought she did a great job I was like what was your name sorry in Bout I always forget how to say it Reika, no I know I just wanted to say it was Reika I thought she did a great job and you could tell this one had a tad bit more money not a ton I don't think it just had a ton of money but it had a little bit more money and so hers was I think creepy as well they gave her more digital eyes obviously then they did kind of just overall makeup in Bout because I think they had a shoestring budget on Bout it lended more to my likeability of the film with the simplicity of just leaning more heavily on the actress but I thought she did a really good job I thought a lot of stuff they did with her was really creepy and really fun her just laughing going down I was like oh this is fun I loved eating the cat on the stairs that was great and then her skit and cotton going and running off that was fantastic I liked that a lot she was probably the strongest performance in the whole film he was fine sometimes not great and so I don't want to harp on him too bad but me too he wasn't the strongest but didn't ruin anything it's like watching somebody that you know is a rookie and is in the big leagues you're not expecting them to be king coley you know you're expecting them and rooting for them to have a good game and I felt like for a rookie I think he'd go back and probably look at this now and he might go who cause he would see like a player looking back and going wow I don't know why he was in that position during that play and all of that so yeah there's nothing to pick on she was definitely the strongest in the overall film the priest was very similar as well I thought I'd recognize the priest I did too when he showed up he almost looked like, cause I think it was Raj Raj right? we've seen that face slumdog, legon legon that's for sure where I remember him from and I think a few other things as well and he at times, I don't know if it was the writing he sometimes seemed a little weird to me in his acting a little bit I don't know if it was cause he was trying to be this kind of almost bridge she priest and the dialogue was just kind of weird and clunky I felt like a lot of dialogues in a lot of different places was the best word I could think of is clunky cause it just didn't feel like it flowed correctly and coming out yeah he'd be someone that'd be an interesting conversation about where he was in his evolution as an actor what he did in his preparation what direction he was given cause there were times even moments where he just said something to her like my child it didn't sound like it was coming out of the mouth of a priest but there wasn't anything glaringly awful where I was like oh take him off the screen I never felt that way I thought the guy that was actually the bad guy and it did well as well I thought he was kind of creepy looking it almost looked like Vikram in that the split personality theme I guess that's kind of like having hair in front of your face is very menacing it does help yeah and all that kind of stuff overall I thought everybody in the cast was fine she was the best film even though I think like there wasn't like a standout like Areca or Urmila yeah Urmila those like in that film I thought it was like oh they did so so well I thought she did well just not as well as probably I agree and I think that's probably due to being a rookie right new time what a that's a hard thing to do it's not an easy role for your first no not at all I don't know how much acting she did before she's I have no clue not at all of her past so I thought she had an admirable job at it the end I thought was really interesting the end because like the entire time it's this Catholic thing right it's overall oh yeah the way they flipped the switch and my wife came up she's like oh it's kind of like almost this like the how the they everybody's accumulating these British customs Catholicism and then it's like you've abandoned your your tradition of like Hinduism in this point yeah kind of went back and I said oh that's an interesting twist and I thought it fits for obviously an Indian film it does it's it it was they tried all this Catholicism right this stuff the stuff that had been brought on brought to them through the west yeah through the west and through the British and stuff and then he went back and I think he kept saying he something God or diso he was mad at God well he was mad at God because of the encounter he had with his dad yeah that's right in the car and saying if that's the God you expect me to be serving that's going to make me not be in love with this girl then I'm turning my back on this God that I served yeah so they that I thought that was an interesting turn I didn't hate it at all I was like okay that's that I think that it's a nice turn from the original like being too exorcismy and you know just it's all being it really it really is the only time I've ever seen that I mean they're straight up and I understand so much of the exorcist is rooted in truth and real experiential things that have happened within the Catholic church and within exorcisms and who I had mentioned with Roland Doe that people copy the let me he straight up says it's the power of Christ that compels you and this is one of his lines yeah and that oh forever you tied to the exercise always be tied to to the exorcist but again I didn't feel like they were stealing anything I felt like they were taking something that's just like book they didn't book exactly it's kind of an it's kind of inescapable yeah at this point in the genre there's there's other takes that people have done it doesn't always have to be done that way but there are so many attributes and there really was I'm trying to think if there's Benny film prior to the exorcist obviously nothing didn't like the exorcist I know there's been scary things there's been stuff about evil there's been stuff about the devil but actual demonic possession I there's nothing off the top of my head that I can think of prior to the exorcist yeah you guys can let us know if that is the actual case overall like I think the film probably also could have done me obviously the songs but I think probably could have done with cutting down just a tad yeah a little more snappy but I didn't think it was I didn't think it felt overly long either no it didn't and so that's good for a film that's what two hours 20 almost yeah no it kept me engaged I was wanting to I like the overall ambiance to that the cinematographer and the color corrections made there there was a moment it's a musical montage which those didn't bother me there was some musical montage moments and it showed the priest twice doing a turn with a candle and you saw the light do this in the camera and it wasn't jaw-droppingly beautiful but what was beautiful was the intentionality behind it with the director and the cinematographer I love the location was gorgeous they kept everything period yeah it's cool the score was really nice I felt they did it very much felt like it was celebrating the old-school horror films of Universal's Hay Day like Frankenstein and Dracula very interesting how they did because it almost felt like almost a kind of sensibility or pride and prejudice it was almost like a book a book retelling because he had narration a lot over him so I thought that was interesting I love the period piece because we haven't gotten that a lot in Indian cinema even though because obviously my bad is filming in Scotland or Ireland I remember seeing locations it was one of those because the castles they were in were I think it may have actually been in Germany at that point clearly Europe something like this European kind of period feel is cool because we don't get it a lot in Indian cinema and so that was nice lovely lighting all that was great period piece period piece it was a different point cinematography forget my thought acting, story, set design I'll try to remember I was talking about how I like the score and I really appreciated the period piece and set design and the way they used that place the way they lit that place one of the things right out the gate when the movie starts there's exposition in the writing which is you immediately go don't do that but thankfully it then stopped it just did it which is sort of the outset it shouldn't be done but I felt story wise I think I would have preferred I think the biggest convolution for me was just simply I would have I liked the idea that the house didn't want to be demolished yeah and then you stick with that and try to figure out what is it, is it the house is it just the house does a house have a spirit and then you could go into because they clearly wanted to go into you go into the pure evil of demonic possession and then I wonder how much if any because I can't imagine he didn't come up against some things with the censor board and what could be done and if things maybe had to be changed and you weren't allowed to do something that was just pure demonic possession yeah it would be cool if it could go even farther that's just obviously my is it the house not the house it's the devil and just straight up go where Exorcist goes in that regard I didn't like I'm so glad she stopped bleeding after he cut her the ten thousand times it happened in the Exorcist too though I know because he I don't know what he did it with when she stood up on the bed and she's I don't know what she had but she was saying fuck me and she's like in her vagina it was a crucifix okay yeah she stabbed herself and she stopped bleeding so clearly there's something with the demonic that stopped me from bleeding and I don't have any intention for that when she slit the arm several times and the bleeding stopped I went okay we're dealing with the supernatural so the natural is secondary to the supernatural the same with there were a couple of stomach stabs but then that was a continuity flaw there were stomach stabs and then there was no bleeding or scrapes in the nightgown he was fine too because he was dying for a while yeah there were several moments like that where I'm like okay it's alright we missed that I understand but yeah that moment oh that was creepy as hell it's worse in the book yeah it's worse in the book if you're interested you really should especially if you've seen The Exorcist there is a whole lot of information about what led up to happened during and happened after the writing of the book and the making of the film and they could make a maybe they has anyone made a film about the making because somebody could do that probably I'd imagine making of The Exorcist from book to the end of the film because it's a story in and of itself yeah anyways but yeah overall I enjoyed the film I think it's a good film and I would actually recommend it if people were looking since obviously the genre is so limited in India but the past two the book and this one I've already gone into I think my top five recommendations of stuff I would recommend just because of they're actually creepy yeah like the other ones that we had seen there were some creepy ones right but these are just two of the more creepy ones maybe it's just because they're doing with possession yeah if you love this possession is a creepy genre man if you love this genre if you like this kind of horror film if you like horror I think in the same way to keep using the baseball analogy if you're a baseball lover okay it's not the world series and it's not the best teams in baseball but if you're at Wrigley Field and you see them playing their best baseball you're gonna leave the games really happy you saw that game I feel like anybody who likes horror would watch this and walk away feeling really good about the attempts they made at this to be a good horror film I think there was a sequel and I don't know if it was any good but 1921 is actually there's a sequel to it I don't know if the same people are in it or anything like that I just know there's a film called 1921 um you guys can let us know if it's trash or anything like that I don't know but anyways let us know what other creepy spooky coreish style of films we can watch and what you think about this film and um if you are the devil stay away subscribe elsewhere