 Tell you where it's on 9-1. Well, some rock fella called up. He wants to get in this act and send me a long wire. Bobby Kennedy is also called. So what you better do is talk to Senator Kennedy and tell him that this is Lindsay's problem and tell him what this idea is as you see it. And that we don't have any small business money. They're talking about the old small business loans and veterans loans and housing loans and what they want to do is transfer their frustrations and their hopes to somebody in the federal government. And you ought to tell them that we're willing and we're anxious to be of any help that we can that you don't recommend a special session in the legislature a special appropriations city council but they can do it specially just as much as we can and they want us to declare the major disastrous area immediately. So I told them within an hour I'd have a man to call them back so I think you ought to talk to Frank Dryden and Buford Ellington over at the Office of Emergency Management then talk to Gene Foley over at Small Business see what he has said up there that's what he could legitimately do talk to the veterans housing people, veterans loans see what they could do that's drier over at his shop and see what Kennedy thinks we ought to say he's bell aching because he says he's got a New York senator and trying to see which one can get the most money for New York and I said now I'm not going to get in he said you sent me a Democratic senator into New York you sent him in here and I said now I'm sending him out anywhere we will don't get me involved in personalities but find out best you can from the executive people what our limitations are, what we can do and how we think we ought to do it and then send them over to their offices there in New York, Small Business or the things without bringing it in to the White House Veterans housing in New York or Small Business in New York loan in New York and you and Senator Kennedy after you talk to the executive people agree how they ought to handle Rockfella and you call him back if you can within the next couple of hours I told him I'd try to get you in the next hour on and he won't send a wire Kennedy or Rockfella but I want to point you since you've gone up there and we're in it to talk to driver of Veterans Administration what he can do on one piece of paper so you can look at it and tell what poverty can do what Small Business can do that's what they have in mind that's what Small Business what Housing can do and this is Housing H this is just BHA I guess so that's what he started reading his wire when I stopped and he was going to get the wire and say we had come up and hadn't done anything now he wants to demand that we do these under that first we declare disaster area find out if we can and if we should that's number one he's Governor he's got to request it I doubt that we ought to make it a disaster area on this I think that includes tornadoes and storms and stuff but it may be and find out from Frank Dryden and Buford Ellington what their judgment is about it if they got that kind could they certify it as he could it be done legally and in the meantime while you got them working and Driver of Veterans Administration working and Gene Foley over to Commerce working be sure you coordinated with Bobby Kennedy and maybe the head of the House delegation I would think Seller and Kennedy so the Democrats touch base maybe Powell so that you got some people that will will pull Rockefeller off of us if he gets on us and let them know what he's asking and what he's going to do and here's what they ought to do under our set up they ought to go see the Veterans Loan and it's at 475th Avenue 1419 Smith Young Tower Al Smith building whatever it is giving these addresses and then call Rockefeller and give him a coordinated answer at my direction after you have talked to the Kennedy's and Powell and Seller that ought to touch that New York base pretty good after you talk to these others three or four they're getting panic they say the people are getting ready to blow up so on and so forth and I said well I want to work with your mayor any way I can and but I've got a security meeting here now and they just call me and interrupt me and you just go and take it from there and let me or Bill Moyer or Joe Califano and all the facilities we got at your disposal you can use them here any way you want to alright I'll fill in the answers this but the answer's got to be no it seems to me all of these well I put money into pay operating expenses for an outrageous wage demand well I would thank it what he's saying you may after you get a background it gives you a knowledgeable working thing you might see what it is he wants by after you talk to Kennedy too and then say that you'll explore it look into it I don't think he wants us to put any money into the city I think what he wants us to do is to say to George Meany Jr small business man down in Brooklyn that God we got no transportation your stores closed your broke will lend you five hundred dollars in the small business act and I think you could do that I think he says that to a veteran at his destitute that you could make him alone for his house if his payments haven't been met he says that these employers are not paying them for not working and these fellows can't meet the payments well it seems to me that for a month they got a postponement the bankers could hold back we don't have to turn over the treasury to them but there are some things we can do and we want to do everything we can consistently legally we want to be careful not to set an example that every time they have a strike we become a strike breaker by running in here and putting up a lot of dough yep I'm over here talking to George Meany now about this he's going to call Mike Quill well you tell him how bad it is and the main thing though you do you contact at least three people in the federal government Gene Foley housing and veterans small business that's four then you contact at least three people in the congress is Kennedy and Seller and Powell and then you contact Rockwell as quick as you can and make him tell you first what it is that he wants to do and you pick it to pieces and say we can buy this we can't buy that we'll do this we'll do that but if you can make him do it right in New York and make him do it through his mayor say the ideal way to do it is for the state not to get in here and take it away from the mayor for the federal government not take it away from the mayor but have the mayor say to these folks these various offices keep that ball right in his lap he got elected thank you