 What lessons the Kenyan Dairy Board can offer to the Ethiopian market or Ethiopian dairy sector? The most important lesson, I think, is government intervention. I think that's one of the key lessons that you can offer. If the government can actively participate in the development of the dairy, I think it will take off faster. Because capacity building is expensive and the farmers find it quite tough. So government intervention, I think, is very important. Somebody asked about the 300 animals that were contributed originally in Ethiopia and why they didn't. The industry didn't take off at that particular time. The key, I think, and we will look at it again a little deeper, is that maybe the local populations have not been sensitized enough or there were no developed farmers to do the uptake and then teach the rest. In Kenya, we have a lot of farmers teaching other farmers with lots of farmer education centers by other farmers. And since that is very practical and the farmer can see what the other one is doing, then I think that is where the takeoff comes in fastest. As I said, I want to go back to government intervention. The government intervention is very, very important because it ties in with another question. The development of the consumer. In Kenya, the milk production went up phenomenally when the government started giving free milk to schools, the primary schools, and we have 7 million children in primary schools. So when the government gave this free milk, it really sensitized the farmers that they need. And the government had to go out and develop further so that they can get the milk to give to the children. That grew phenomenally, the industry grew phenomenally as a result. So you can see government intervention. You could decide to feed the children, maybe for a year or two, or give free milk to, I don't know which society, which community, something like that. That will spare the production almost immediately. But governments find it difficult to sustain that kind of thing. So in Kenya, it found it difficult and it collapsed. The scheme collapsed. So now we had to find other ways of rebuilding again the consumer. And now we had to go into really serious campaigns. And the government again stepped in and helped us. As I said, our presidents have been farmers. And this has also helped a lot. In fact, both the three presidents, Mr. Mwange, they have been big farmers. Jomo Kenyatta was a famous farmer. And in fact, today the family owns the biggest, the largest milk processing plant. They're really the largest combined. And those are the children now. Our current president is a great farmer as well as an economist. So he's gone into the marketing of the milk in a very big way. So the government intervention in other words. And government examples from government. A lot of our ministers are also farmers and vet officers. So you see those are the areas that will help develop the dairy industry.