 Coming up on DTNS the Tesla Cybertruck is here Russian bloatware is now the law and Trisha Hershberger tips us off on games for the gifting season This is the Daily Tech news for Friday November 22nd 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio Redwood I'm Sarah Lane draw on the top tech stories from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm Len Peralta. I'm Roger Chang the show's producer and As I mentioned TV host gamer and creator Trisha Hershberger back on the show. Welcome back Trisha It's so so cool to have you now that we're on twitch you can you can host us. We're like twitch Friends Yeah, twitch buddies. Yeah So this is exciting. In fact, we were just talking to Trisha about her hybrid electric car. We were talking about solar We're talking about building your own PCs. That's all on good day internet gotta get that extended show at patreon.com DTNS let's start with a few tech things you should know The US Department of Commerce granted Microsoft a license to export mass-market software to Huawei previous US trade restrictions had caused a halt in issuing Windows and Azure licenses to Huawei causing Microsoft to remove Huawei laptops from its online store and Huawei to postpone the launch of a new Windows laptop of its own Google updated support documents for cloud print to say there won't be any more cloud print after December 31st 2020 Cloud print has been around for 10 years in beta pretty much the entire time It's been they'd launched back in 2010 Chrome OS now has its own built-in print solution So it doesn't need cloud print which was what cloud print was originally launched for Google promises to add support for external print servers and APIs for third parties to access print job metadata and configurations in Chrome OS before That January 31st deadline because those are some of the last things taking advantage of it So another Google product winding down Let's talk a little more about the Russian Duma Sarah big story on a Friday The Duma in Russia passed a law requiring certain electronics devices to come pre-installed with Russian software Non-Russian software may also be pre-installed But the Russian software has to be there as well a complete list of Russian made software that must be included as Which devices will be affected will be determined by the government one of the bill's authors Oleg Nikolayev told the BBC that since most devices come with Western applications Consumers quote might think that there are no domestic alternatives available end quote the association of trading companies and manufacturers of electrical household and Computer equipment warned that some companies may leave the Russian market because it's not possible to install Russian made software on their devices The law comes into force in July 2020 for smartphones computers and smart TVs Now it's a bit of a side note But I think this is part of the wider Russian strategy to create an internet that could exist only within Russia If it came under cyber attack that there are lots of other laws that are targeted towards Making the Russian Internet be able to survive on its own if it had to turn itself off But mostly this is about helping homegrown companies in Russia and giving them a boost It could hurt companies like Apple if there's a an app that the government decides has to be in there And Apple doesn't want it in the app store for instance That that could be a problem or let's say the company doesn't want to go through the app store and says no But it's the law that you have to put it on there all kinds of possibilities for how this could could mess with companies That want to sell in Russia that aren't from Russia. Yeah, it seems like to me We're gonna run into a lot of you mentioned Apple, but you know large companies who it's not that they couldn't do What Russia is asking they just won't and they'll say all right. Well huge market that we have to leave behind for Political and business reasons that are pretty complicated Yeah, Trisha, I don't know that you've been following I don't expect that you've been following the you know Russian legislation on the internet Terribly closely, but do you think this would work? Do you think this this would make people want to switch to? Homegrown solution because this is definitely the first I'm hearing of this so thank you daily tech news show But you know at first I thought well I mean, I guess this is a great way to spread awareness But then also the user in me and the consumer in me says it's mandatory government bloatware like who wants that? So from a consumer perspective, I'm sure this is probably gonna be annoying and my questions are can you uninstall it after you purchase? But yeah, I mean you guys bring up a great point that this is going to affect larger companies like Apple and Have a lot of ramifications other than just hey Russia makes apps too. Although you can't be mad at them for trying to support the home team Yeah, I suppose so I mean it also could be a problem for smart TV makers who don't have app stores who say like we We put a smart OS on there and then we lock it down and that's it and we'll update those operate We don't really have a way to put apps into the store That could be an issue. It's I I don't think these things usually work in getting people to switch as we have seen with the with the Browser ballot night that sort of thing, right? It just it doesn't end up working the way governments want it to work I can tell you Samsung's been trying to force Bixby on me for years and it is not working They even gave you a button Trisha. What more do you want? I mean The Twitter safety team announced that users can now enable two-factor authentication without providing a phone number or If you have already turned it on you can remove your phone number and keep your two-factor authentication on Since 2017 Twitter users who wanted to use a mobile authenticator app or a hardware security key like UB key Had to enable the SMS based 2FA first and could not disable it That left logins open to sim swapping exploits because even if you had the authenticator someone could use your SMS if they could get a Whole of it and a sim swap attack was used to gain access to Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey's account on August 30th this year And here we are just about three months later with Twitter saying, you know what? Maybe we won't make you have an SMS two-factor authentication option, you know normally I'd say you know Trisha may or may not have thoughts about this but I bet this week you do I do have lots of thoughts about this as a matter of fact because I was hacked this week For anyone listening, this is what we were talking about before the show I woke up Monday morning to a slew of SMS two-factor authentication Text messages and a whole bunch of emails telling me all of my passwords have been reset to just about every account You can imagine like take it all the way back to like when people used snap fish Do you remember? Yeah, I think I did some creating cards Everything got everything And fortunately didn't send anything out from any of my social media or anything like that I think they were just fishing for sensitive information But SMS two-factor is what saved me But I can a hundred percent relate to not wanting that on there because what happened to me is they had hacked and a Very very old AOL account that I didn't realize was a recovery email on my g-suite account And then they use that to get into my g-suite and then from there got everything else But it was it made me so mad because so many of these accounts that did have two-factor Had email and text two-factor and because they were into that email They could just use email so it didn't even matter that I had a SMS two-factor turned on Because they were just going in through the email so I can relate to this when people say it doesn't even matter That I have an authenticator on my phone because they're just using SMS to get in anyway So I would like to see in general companies adapt a way more widespread and Consumer-chosen approach to two-factor authentication and security and because my g-suite. This was really fun So once I got my g-suite back and locked out the intruder They actually backdoored in through my domain to get it back again. Oh wow I was dealing with the person that the domain hosting at the website hosting and domain site that I originally bought the domain from Who didn't have two-factor at all? Oh Which was a huge nightmare, so I ended up getting it resolved knock on wood no issues in a few days but This kind of nightmare it makes you feel very vulnerable Especially when you feel like you don't have control over securing your own accounts. So I mean with Jack Dorsey getting hacked I think that I don't endorse hacking ever. I think hackers and movies are awesome hackers in real life suck I don't endorse hacking, but it certainly sent the message to Twitter Yeah, I mean the the advice we always give people is turn on two-factor authentication But sometimes you don't have the option or they did things like Twitter whether they made you use a less secure version of it And I I've had arguments I've had arguments with patreon who my love about you know giving me an option that doesn't involve SMS because Yeah, it's probably not gonna be sim swapped until the day that it is and then you know, this is what happened with Twitter Jack Dorsey's like yeah, it's probably not worth now It's totally worth the engineering resources to do this because it happened to him. Yeah It's it's totally worth it to have as much security as possible move it moving on to cool vehicles Tesla unveiled its cyber truck on Thursday. They had a great demo and it was a demo fail Tesla head of design Franz von Holtshausen hit the side of the car with a sledgehammer. No effect It's made from the same stainless steel as SpaceX's rockets So they were hoping for a different result But when he threw a metal ball at the windows it cracked them twice They were supposed to not crack However, the truck has some great specs features a sharp angular design comes in three models a single motor real Rear wheel drive with a 250 mile range seven seven hundred 7500 pounds of towing capacity and a zero to sixty MPH time and under six point five seconds That one goes for thirty nine thousand and nine hundred dollars a dual motor all wheel drive model with three hundred miles of range 10,000 Lb's of tow capacity and a zero to sixty time and under four point five seconds goes for forty nine thousand and nine hundred dollars and a Trimotor all wheel drive model 500 miles of range 14,000 pounds towing capacity and a zero to sixty time of under two point nine seconds goes for 69,900 dollars autopilot will come standard with Tesla's full self-driving capability Available for an additional seven thousand dollars Tesla is taking refundable 100 $100 deposits to reserve a truck and assembly is scheduled to begin in late 2021 with triple motor models beginning in 2022 Who wants one? Trisha, you just got a electric plug-in hybrid So you're probably not gonna jump for this but but they're not as expected expensive as I expected them at least on that base model One, but they're still real pricey Yeah, they're still pricey. I mean the the towing stats are crazy Yeah, and I love that they do the traditional Tesla thing of get in now for this very very low price And you know, you'll get it in a few years because I think a lot of people see this DeLorean look in Cybertruck and think oh man a hundred bucks sold Yeah, why not if it's refundable, you know, just get in there and and make it happen But then of course set your clocks for two years from now when they're not delivering the ones that people expected and and all of that Which may or may not happen, but that's happened before There's also Elon Musk tweeting out extras that he didn't have in the announcement yesterday for instance a possible solar panel Add-on to go over the bed of the truck that would give you an extra 15 miles of charge per day So the expect more of that kind of thing plus the You could see whatever movie you want in this design some people see Batman some people see Terminator Some people see Transformers It's a it's a crazy design and yet it's real Yeah, I mean this it is we were talking in the pre-show This is a concept car that you'd see at CES and go yeah, okay, whatever I'll know and you know that'll never be on the road. This is something Tesla is actually doing Where I ended up moving recently is truck country Let me tell you and just the idea that I could be like I could be the Cybertruck girl in the neighborhood and haul a lot of stuff, you know and plug it plug it in behind me, you know, my you know, 2001 It there it's not happening not happening anytime soon. I already got a new card in less than a year ago But I do want this. I just want a Cybertruck just to have it now that you've put it that way I want you to have it like I just I Mean talk of the town, you know, it's a small town but but but it would be it would be quite the flex We're gonna return to the the mysterious Valentine's Day text message delay again on November 7th at least 168,000 text messages that had been sent nine months earlier suddenly got delivered nine months later Apparently that's about a half seconds worth of messages in the US The short version of how this happened is the server from message processor Cineverse went offline February 14th wasn't rebooted again until November 7th And that's when the message has got sent the verge has taken a little time to do an in-depth look at Cineverse and what happened industry experts told the Verge that the delayed messages should not have been sent even when it was turned back On because a server being reconnected should automatically be cleaned so that no remaining messages get sent Plus SMS messages have a 15-day expiration anyway So if you're respecting the standard you would see that they were more than 15 days old and get sent So it's still a little mystery of how this actually happened There's also the matter of who Cineverse is Cineverse is a Tampa Florida based provider of back-end services for almost all the wireless carriers in the United States It works a little like transit providers do on the internet if you know how that works So if AT&T wants to deliver a text message outside its network It's easy to do it inside its network right because it operates the network But if it wants to send a message to a T-Mobile customer It sends it to Cineverse which adapts it to T-Mobile's protocols and sends it along AT&T T-Mobile and Sprint use Cineverse Verizon uses SAP But Cineverse pretty much dominates the industry a smaller message service company out of Germany called Tintech is suing Cineverse for anti-competitive behavior because it claims that instead of honoring a contract to exchange messages for free kind of a appearing arrangement Cineverse wants to charge a per message fee the Tintech says would bankrupt it if it agreed to it Federal Magistrate Judge has recommended ruling in Cineverse's favor though So Cineverse has just kind of bought up the industry and there's a similar thing happening With some transit providers as well that is concerned some folks in that end of the industry So could be a little bit of a cautionary tale here, too Yeah, I think the naive question, you know that I always My first question is well, why wouldn't the carriers just build in this infrastructure? So they don't have to use a company that's gonna lead them astray But Cineverse nobody had ever heard of this company because it was working just fine Until the Valentine's Day text went missing and even then nobody noticed until they all got them seven months later So, you know, it's it's interesting how these large carriers You kind of you kind of figure the infrastructure is all happening behind the scenes On their dime, but it's not Much like there are third-party Services that we find out about all the time with large social network platforms same thing where you go like well Why can't you just do that yourself? Well, because the company doesn't want to deal with it And it's cheaper to to to hire somebody else to do it. Well, yes, but especially because AT&T T-Mobile Sprint and then all the rural carriers like it does make more economic sense to have a third-party say You know, I'll handle this for all of you That's why we have transit providers on the internet instead of all the edge ISPs handling it because it just makes economic sense Well, Trisha, I hope no Valentine's Day texts were lost in your life No, I just can't imagine like has sending a steamy Valentine's text and then, you know That relationship ending and then nine months later that Yes, very awkward moments very very awkward at best Alright moving on to some robots Shall we alphabets X company announced the everyday robot project with the goal of developing a general purpose Learning robot the idea is to use cameras and machine learning to have that robot learn from the world around them so that every movement Doesn't actually need to be coded X is testing its robots in a workplace environment with the first robots learning how to sort trash Nearly 30 robots spend part of the day separating compost landfill and recyclables. Oh my gosh I wish I had one already virtual robots practice grabbing things in simulated buildings The virtual robots data is combined with real-world data and a system update So the real robots to the real robots every week or two X says that the robots put trash in the wrong place about 5% of the time So they're doing pretty well compared to 20% that humans do I'm sorry. It's just funny to me that humans put the trash in the wrong bins 20% of the time That's one out of five. Well, yeah, it's because they're moving too fast I think it's because they don't care all that much So that's another reason that a robot is good for this sort of thing because the robots like no, I know what's right I only have one goes on the compost bin Yeah, though This is this is early days for something and maybe one of the practical benefits will be actually sorting trash that is a Real-world problem that needs to be much more complex than what they're testing here at the end result when you dump Everything in your recycling bit having sorted into this kind of plastic that kind of plastic aluminum would be excellent That that would help recycling industry quite a bit I don't think that's the only thing they plan for this This is just how they're they're training this but I think it's fascinating That you were taking that machine learning and putting it in the robots now to see if we can get the robots to actually Learn how to move on them on their own without having to program them. That's that could be a big advance Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines.com All right, folks, it's that gift-giving season. We've got Black Friday coming up here actually I mean, it's Black Friday kind of smeared itself out over the whole month. We've already got sales happening Not just here but in Europe as well singles day was in China and most of Asia earlier in the month And you might be thinking like all right. I want to get somebody a game What should I get them? Thank you Tricia for joining us today to help us figure out what some of the cool games are that you might Want to give somebody I'm here So I wanted to start off by going over some cool hardware gifts for gamers So if for the person maybe who you're like This is the person that I'm gonna do the big item for or I'm looking for the big spend item for someone Some stuff that might not be on the radar. I feel like a lot of people that are kind of outside of the Immediate gaming family think oh, I should get them a console a console is always a great gift However Xbox one and ps4 have been around a while now So a lot of the gamers you're gifting for might already have those big things so things I would suggest The Oculus Quest VR headset have any of you played with the Oculus Quest yet? No, I have the go but I haven't got a chance to play with the Quest which I hear is like 20 times better So the quest is the same price as the Rift s but the quest doesn't need to be tethered to a machine so Formerly prior for a fantastic VR experience and an Oculus headset You would have to be tethered to a VR capable pretty beefy PC But the quest is standalone which not only means it's a lower price point because then you're not also buying a very very fancy There yeah, you're showing yourself. I can get the quest if you want to see it you want to see it Yeah, sure. This is the yeah because what I'm showing is the Oculus go which is not as powerful But it's got that same portability There you go the question portability This is the whole thing and what I love about this and this is gonna sound really silly But bear with me if you were saying Laying in bed next to your partner or you have a roommate who shares a room with you And you want to watch TV before bed without disturbing them boo. There it is If you want to take it on an airplane You can do that I mean if you don't feel like you're looking silly, but I mean this is kind of the VR dream and Previously with the Oculus go and some other standalone headsets that didn't quite have the processing power You were very limited in terms of software so the games you could play were more like demos Which were kind of fun is like a party trick to show your aunt, but nothing you were gonna spend five six hours on This has beat saber like this has super hot VR This has a lot of really great quality games on it and it's standalone So I've taken this I take this on vacation with me usually and it's pretty fun to be able to do that with a headset So that's 499 for the 64 gigabyte and or I'm sorry 399 for the 64 and 499 for the 128 Pretty now that the next one on your list is also a good portable Yeah, also also a good portable is the Nintendo switch and Nintendo switch now announced their light version So if you want to get a Nintendo switch, but for 199 instead of 299 you are going to lose the detachable joy cons So you're gonna lose a lot of the motion control and rumble and your joy cons But you still get access to a ton of really really amazing Nintendo games Just in the handheld variety instead of being able to switch it from console to handheld Etc. Nintendo is not gonna get replaced within the next year the way Sony and Microsoft are so that's another another Consideration but um, yeah, it's true So speaking of the Xbox the elite series to Xbox controller came out fairly recently and If you've ever held the first Elite controller, it feels really nice in hand. The two feels the same way It might even be a little bit heavier, which I really like that feel in a controller It's just it's it's a really nice controller with things like adjustable tension on your thumb sticks Shorter hair trigger locks. You can you can customize them to whatever feels good for you The wraparound rubberized grip feels really really nice and yeah, it's just an upgrade So if you have someone that's a diehard Xbox gamer, those could be some good options for them And I believe the elite series to retails for around a hundred and eighty dollars MSRP But although with Black Friday deals, you might be able to get it better I don't are you guys particular about your controllers when you sit down to play games? I I'm not actually because I'm so bad anyway, like it doesn't really matter. I just I just use whatever's in front of me Need the right controller I I've just learned to deal with it See we're the we're the people who need the elite series to Xbox controller, right? So we could actually get over this problem But of course there are plenty of gamers who have all the gear they need and you might want to get them some games What should we get them? Yeah, so some games that are pretty big a star what Star Wars Jedi fall-in order just came out from respawn and People are saying this is the best Star Wars game since Knights of the Old Republic This is the Star Wars game Everyone's been waiting for respawns been kicking it out of the park lately and it's available for ps4 xbox 1 and PC So if you have a Star Wars fan in your life, that's I mean just the melee lightsaber combat feels real good So I highly recommend that Also a game that came out probably a couple months ago now, but this year control by remedy games It's not on a lot of people's radar although if you're working the video games industry It's got all the buzz people in the industry really really loved it and touted it But yeah, I don't think your mass population knows about it but if you are buying for a gamer who's really into X files slash UFO citing conspiracy theory paranormal activity lore Like that type of genre you are going to love this game. I just finished it. It's very difficult They do have some accessibility options in there if Tom like you stated you are if you're not so great at these games, but you want to experience the story anyway They have mouse aim assist which as a keyboard player who's not great at shooters. I super appreciated mouse aim assist But that game is just the gameplay is wonderful You really feel like a superhero in late game and it's by remedy So it's in the same fictional universe as the Alan Wake games Just really really well done if you're a fan of remedy games, you're gonna love this on it was funny I was streaming and I just finished the playthrough last week of this game and a lot of members of my chat were like This is remedy af and that's probably the best way to describe it But really really good game and that's available for ps4 xbox one and PC But only on the epic game store it won't come out for steam until next year another game that everyone's talking about right now Is the outer worlds? Some adult themes for sure in this but the writing is absolutely hilarious It's obsidian that did it so if you liked Fallout New Vegas or the person you're buying for like fall out Fallout New Vegas highly recommend outer worlds many many hours of gameplay. You may lose that person That's the only risk if you get them. Yeah, are you playing it Tom? No, but I have lost a couple of not lost friends, but I have some friends who kind of went off the radar As they got lost it. Yeah, I'm only partially into it for precisely that reason because I mean If you want to do every single side quest and you're a total completionist then yes, you can spend Hundreds of hours in this game quite easily and then if you're buying for the family Nintendo is always the clear king when it comes to family and kids games between Yoshi's Craft and World Mario Party Mario Kart Luigi's Mansion 3 just came out which has a co-op a couch co-op mode in it Ring-fitted venture if you want to get physical and work out lots and lots and lots of options from Nintendo and If you're buying for an older gamer the nostalgia in Zelda Lynx Awakening is So good so so so good It's exactly what I remember but better and like just the music kicks in and I tiered up. I'll be honest Highly recommend and then if you cannot decide what game to get for the person that you're buying for Xbox game pass and game streaming and I should say game subscription services not game streaming services because now those things are all becoming very different The game subscription services like Xbox game pass Enable the gamer to access a wide variety of different games and a whole lot of triple A's on there for one price Now granted they can only play those games for as long as they still are subscribed to that service But I believe it's Xbox game pass ultimate that is for both PC and Xbox and as someone who is primarily a PC Gamer that appeals very much to me. Cool. Yeah, so that those would be the hot hits that I would say For chat, please go ahead or anyone listening to this Please go ahead and write in your votes because 2019 has been an incredible year for games If you don't want to spend a lot of money on games I should go ahead and mention the indie market is amazing Untitled goose game came out this year slay the spires incredible Tons and tons and tons of great move if you like moving indie games grease sea of solitude really really excellent picks this year and 2020 is going to be even worse on our wallet Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much Trisha. Of course and thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit Lots of gaming stories there all the time you can submit your own and vote on others get them on the show Perhaps daily tech news show dot reddit comm is our subreddit also join in the conversation in our discord And you can join by linking to a patreon account at patreon.com slash DTNs Let's take a look at the mail bag. Oh, let's Joel who lives over in Sweden said news tip from my country Spotify has become the largest podcast platform in Sweden according to a new study from analysis firm media vision He got this from I'm gonna butcher it doggins knee hater, otherwise known as dn a publication in the country Joel says 42% of daily podcast listeners in Sweden now use the Spotify app for podcasts Apple reached 33% in the same July to September period Joel says I think Spotify has grown for a number of reasons for example They're big among young people who are the largest group of podcast listeners Spotify also invested a lot in the podcast market Which seems to have made a difference Spotify indeed launched a number of exclusive podcasts in Sweden as well over the last year Showing that Apple's dominance in podcast may not be set in stone Yeah, thank you Joel for writing in Joel is the editor-in-chief of surpha.se Which is not related to DN which he quoted in his email there or Spotify But he said he's a fan of the show and wanted to share some intro insights. So thank you Joel You're the best you are you know who else is the best Our patrons at our master and grand master levels Including Dan Dorado Hankins John Johnston and Chris Smith So much best on this show because also the best is Len Peralta who's been busily illustrating This show what have you drawn for us today Len? You know, I'm super excited for all the games and everything else that Trisha was talking about But you know, I'm also excited about the cyber truck as well I know it's a little while before it comes out But you know, I'm a one for misinformation and here's an image of the cyber truck What makes a great gift for the for the holiday and Trisha Hirschberger Of course said that this was the best video game for the holidays and so there you go. That's There's also a baby Yoda. There's also a baby And I hope baby Yoda is gonna be okay when the cyber truck comes, you know Back to work Tune in See what happens. So yeah, so this is available right now It's on the front page in my store Len Peralta store.com along with the rise of sky walker DTS poster which is available for sale right now as well. Also, I'm doing custom drawn holiday cards again So that's maybe something you may want to think about as we get into the holiday season But I'll and also a patreon patreon.com for slash Len I'm going to tell people that they will probably ruin the holidays if they don't get a custom holiday card from Len Peralta I know this from experience. I've done it both ways go to Len Peralta store.com right now and commission him while you still have time Absolutely save Christmas or whatever holiday you might be enjoying. You know, who else is the best? Hershberger Much for being with us today. It's been too long. It's so nice to have you a great great tips great insight and let folks know Where they can keep up with the rest of your work Well, thank you guys so much for having me if people want to follow me for all the other stuff that I'm up to You can do that on Twitter Facebook or Instagram at that girl Trish. That's no I in the girl So it's that GRL Trish and then on YouTube or Twitch just my name Trisha Hershberger all on word So yeah, thank you guys so very much for having me. It's always lovely to come on here and chat tech with you guys And yeah, maybe maybe we'll all get to work together on something else very soon. 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