 It's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, man. I'm here with my boy, Trio Talk, man. It's going down East Texas in the building. What's going on, man? Nothing much, man. We got a... Man, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, nigga. You just got here and you already messed it up, nigga. We're gonna put you off the show. I ain't got time for today, Trio Talk. Man. I don't want to ruin your legacy. Hey, man, we got my boy, K.D. Flame in the building, man. What's going on, man? Thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101, man. I got a question for your story. Who's that on that intro? That's somebody from Longview, Texas. That's right. Come on, man. Big shout out to XO, Big Shout out to East Texas. Listen, man. I'm from East Texas. XO from East Texas. You from East Texas. Trio Talk from East Texas. We putting East Texas in their way opposed to B. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, I think when I first came up with this platform and stuff, I think people didn't realize the bridges was about to be, you know, we were to make some bridges instead of walls and bring everything together. You know what I'm saying? Man, everybody been on the show. East Texas, Dallas, Houston, man, Florida, D.C., Chicago. We got people coming today from Chicago. People flying in. Boss Talk 101 is the hottest thing in the South right now. Real talk. Other than Trio Talk and Appeal Talk. No, bro, I'm just saying, you don't agree with that. What else happened? We can debate it. We bought Nick and Nick. I don't know, man. I like the group. I'm talking about the numbers. Look at the numbers. The numbers don't lie. Hey, hey, what was funny how you looked at me when you said that. Like, yeah, Nick was like... We working though. Because if we don't think it, who gonna think it? Man, I tell you what, man. Before we get started on what me and Trio Talk got going on, man, I just want to give you flowers. Perfectly, man. Dope interviews with Melvin, Faizan. Man. You know what I'm saying? I just told you before we started that mic interview. That's something that I want to see as a consumer. Just like, who is this dude right here? Yeah, man. Thank you, man. Not on, you know, just not on that job. Receive it, bro. It ain't easy. First of all, thank you for even acknowledging me, man. Not for real. A lot of people, you know what I'm saying? You can either ride with us or collide with us, man. You know, me and Trio Talk, we came in this thing, and we kind of, we came in about the same time. We kind of shook the volume up of how things was being done in the whole blog world, I believe. You know, not in a bad way, in a positive way. But when you do something like what's happening with Boss Talk, what's happening with Trio Talk, no Peel Talk, it changes the way that people are looking at the whole algorithm of how things are being displayed in each city. And so people going to look at it, and they're going to take it wherever they want to take it. It can be I like it or, man, them niggas ain't respectful. I heard a lot of stuff about Boss Talk, like, they don't bring it, he don't bring on the Dallas, or he don't bring on the young new artist, or he don't bring East Texas, he only picks certain, I don't hear so much, but at the end of the day, what I can't do is focus on that. I focus on the work. You can only do so much. I focus on the work. You know what I'm saying? The work. I think the work is important. If you don't work, you don't eat. That's biblical, nigga. Go get your bibles. T.D. Jakes. So you said you liked the Melbourne form. Melbourne called me yesterday, man. That's my boy, man. Not just the fact that you had, you know, because that's big, man. Somebody like that from a whole different state. I brought them down to really try to bridge the gap. You know, yeah, I seen your movement, man. I seen you get upset a lot of times and do freestyle, man. You know, you come off real, real, like, nigga. Nigga. You know, I like that, though. I'm a real nigga. I don't be getting those shit, though. You just doing something to just get in there and get that work in? That's just the energy behind some of the music. When you listen to some music, you know, you have your layback music, but sometimes people want to hear something that they can feel. You know what I'm saying? You from Longview? Nah. You from Jefferson? Nah. I'm from Lone Star? Nah. Let me keep guessing. You from Kielgore? Nah, you didn't guess where I'm from. Uh, you from, uh... Hold on. I got this nigga. New Diana, man. New Diana, man. Yeah. Damn it, boy. I never guessed that. Yeah, nobody would. Man, I graduated with, like, 56 people. Damn it, boy. Smile, smile, Terry. So, New Diana, how was it, like, coming up? Did you come up with both your parents or was it just you? Nah, my dad died when I was... Your dad passed away? Really, like, two, three years old. You were... So you really didn't ever really... You knew your granddad more than likely? Nah, my granddad was dead, too. Damn. It was just my mom and my granddad, man. So you were raised with mom and grandma? Yeah. Grandma, was she cool or was she one of them hard couples? McColders, man. McColders, man. She a whooper nigga or she let a nigga make it? She... Grandma, you let her make it. Go to jumps to ask about my grandma. That'll tell you about her. What's your grandma name? Betty Joe Dayton. She bad... She bad off when it come to whooping. Did... Did... Did... She get old too. She was cool with me. Yeah, she wasn't late. Man, my favorite thing about my granny, if I would tell somebody it'd be like, you know, the kids that people thought were bad kids. Yeah. She used to like them type of kids. She used to see stuff in them kids, man. Really? So she look at the ones who've been through the most? Yeah, and they ended up being some of the best people, too. For real. Yeah, and at the end of the day, man, that's the most important thing that you get that infrastructure, that support, man. So, I mean, East Texas, man, you know, like I said, you know, a lot of niggas don't know, man, at night it's dark. You know what I'm saying? These niggas don't know how dark it get at night in East Texas. They're used to the light, see. You know what I mean? See, I used to run from the laws and cut the lights off, and then they didn't even see me no more. One night, I'd be there and hear the tree over there right across from where the Dairy Queen sit, on 59, the Herodium trying to catch me, and I jumped out and ran over the O.C. Smithium house. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Through the woods. Man, you're going to incredible. Nah, it's over with. I mean, Herodium got busted now. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You write about that. Yeah. They lost me getting busted. That wouldn't be funny to me. They be trying to take a nigga out, and then, boom, they go. You know, but at any rate, man, it was tough, man, growing up, because a nigga had to come. Nigga love to get that money in the country, man. Yeah. That's what they do down there. And nigga, I don't get that money. You know, he's going to be bored and make a lot of babies. Yeah. For real. So, what's up, man? Talk to them and tree or talk. Man, so, man, what album are we waiting on right now, man? It's been a while. Bro, it's been a hell of a while. About 10 months looking at that YouTube. I'm trying to figure out what you're doing. You taking a vacation? Nah, man, I got some coming, man. The way I feel like I just put everything into this music right now. Like, I look back at it. I said, I know where I'm at musically with it. So, I want to make sure I got out of my music legal. I got the best sound. I can get the best production I can get. And when this come out in a couple weeks, we're going to see what it do. Oh, yeah. It's in a couple of weeks. It's going to come out. What's the name of that project? That still ain't got the name yet. I'm still tinking around with the name right now. Don't call it no name. Nah, man. They all go. I might call it The Dirtian Project. I'm not sure right now, though. We're going to see. Yeah. Like I said, it's important to keep in this digital world, you got to keep something going, man. Yeah. But good music always going to be good music, though. No. People are always going to gravitate towards it. So you think it's like, OK, like Sean kind of say, uh, rappers, put the music out. Don't be trying to, you know, like, hold on to it. Be romantic with it. Yeah, go and put it out. You don't feel like sometimes you got to put something out? Yeah, sometimes. You know, you always got to, if you have a cool audience or a fan base, you want to feed them, you know? But it's not about your perception, you know? I kind of follow people who I can see myself pattering what I'm trying to do after, you know? Who is that? Like mentors. Who would you look up to? Mentors. I don't know. I mean, like musically, the orders that I enjoy. I look up to certain people, like if I was a, I'm a Joe Rogan fan on a podcast. I like Joe Rogan, too, but. But I'm just saying, I can say that I would love to take my platform there so the way he's doing it, I try to, you know, look at him. So who would you say somebody in music, like you were just saying that you really would say, okay, that's the way I kind of want to lay mine out, too? It may not be the same way, but I definitely love what they're doing. I mean, you could, you could, you could put a lot of the Houston orders in there, Houston legends. You could put a lot of them in that category for me. You know, just how they independently grind it. You know what I mean? Like. That's real. It might have took a little bit longer for some of them to get there, you know? But eventually they got what they was looking for. I like ESG from last week. ESG the homie. I just like the way, the way his movement was, even though everything, everybody that he, he didn't always get his just do or they, they made it because of where he was from. He kind of never fit where he was at. You kind of making my point though, like when I said like good music, people are going to gravitate to what they like and who they like. Like you, you a subscriber, you a fan of ESG. Yeah. It would be fair to say that he's not as consistent as some people are with music, but it's so saturated in the market. It's a lot of people that are super consistent with dropping content and people don't hear it or occur. Yeah. But then you got to understand that was a different time. I was talking about ESG when ocean and funk and all that stuff was coming out. You, you had, you didn't have a lot of rappers back then. Nowadays, I don't think I agree that you got to be careful on what type of stuff that you put out, but you need to be put some out because of social media being free. It may not be music. It may be just something. Yeah. Kind of. It may be something to where people just know. It's a kind of scenario. Because it's people out here that's waiting to see something because they're fans and it's an oversaturated market of course, but you are artistic. And like I said, certain things that you do, people are going to gravitate to. Right. No matter what it is. Right. Hell, you could maybe write a letter every day on whatever. You know what I mean? Whatever you're doing, they're going to watch you because they're fans. Yeah. That's something. I need to get better with it. Me myself. I need to get better with it. Yeah, because people love you. Like the ones who love you, love you. And then you leave them hanging. You leave them hanging, right? I don't want to say it like that. Yeah, that's the truth. That's what it's doing. That's what it's doing. I don't want to say it like that. 10 months we've been like, damn, it was hard when it came out. We're suffering over. We want something. Yeah. What am I part doing? I'm sending t-shirts out to two or three people on this side. I do things like that though. I do things like that just to let people know. Like, you know, the support is appreciated. Yeah. You feel me? Like, I tried to, but, you know, it's just something I need to get better at as an artist. Point blank period. I had really too many excuses for that. Yeah, you know, I think that's why. But as for dropping projects out of time, like, yeah, I would have to convince me that there's really, you know, I don't. I don't know though. I probably would try. I try. Who's your favorite? If you was just to like, man, I'm riding down the highway. I can listen to this person that do hip hop. Who would you say yours is? Right now. That ain't got to be your favorite person. Just like, man, I like him. ARD 300. Yeah, my home. Shut up to the homie. Because that nigga working. Yeah. That nigga drop all the time. See, you can't, I don't even want to do that because that's my dog. I'm just saying. Yeah. That nigga work. One of them dropping him bad. And he called me and he's like, he up in the field. And I be like, nigga, you dropping another one already? Hey, look, man, just out of the love, I don't have no rebuttal on that conversation with my partner, man. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you asked me what I listened to. It's like, I don't want a friend. If you go and look at my plug in my truck, it's going to be ARD. In my company truck, it's going to be ARD because you gave me something. Give me somebody else, though. Give me somebody else, though. Who always just always just dropping something. No, they ain't got to be dropping music. I'm just saying somebody else you can get in the corner. I listened to all the time. It could be Smooty one of them. I listened to Smooty. I listened to Smooty a lot. Muddy Waters, that's one of them. Yeah, you can approve his point. What do you mean? I ain't going to say it because he's from East Texas. Smooty, I ain't dropped a project in a long time. But he's dropping music all the time. That's what I was trying to say. If he were to see it, well, he ain't dropped the last project like February of 2021. Yeah, but he's still dropping some leverage all the time. He's still dropping some. Yeah, he's going to keep it in their face. It ain't hard to work because you got... I think you sleeping on me a little bit, bro. I'll be dropping some. I got a little motion, man. He's going to tag me. Hey, man, you know... That nigga will tag me. Everything is coming out of East Texas. You don't miss enough. Shit like that got me looking at hillside eye too. Like, hey, man, this... What? When the last time you tagged me is when you can't even drop. Last time he put something out of the way. Where was that? Oh, matter of fact, we can pull it out. That's what I'm talking about. I got a song right now going stupid Kyle Megan right now. I said that to you. Hey, you know what he said? No. Hey, if you listen to it, I guarantee you'll all love that song. What did he say? What did he say? He said, he said, man, you know, it's a good song, man, but I don't really like it. Yeah. I mean, it's true. I didn't make it for you. But you got to respect my opinion on it though. Everybody got an opinion, but if the consensus... I think that's the way it posed to be though. I think you posed to have partners like that around and tell you what they do and do don't like. It's not the same. It's not the same. What, huh? It's not the same. He be hating? Nah, I ain't gonna tell no hate. Yeah, he might be. I don't know. He used to be a rapper. This nigga... Wait a minute. His last post on Instagram was April 20th. Damn. This nigga think that I'm supposed to make the music that catered to his lifestyle. That's what he think. Nah. His nigga just asked me for a song that I ain't even released. I mean, see me that I need that right now, today. Just for him to listen to. Cause he come for you as a boy. It's a different level right there. Man, he don't seem to think so sometimes. Nah, I think... He didn't got mad at me before. Look, look, he didn't got mad at me before. I think that's the part of it. The point that I was making was, you know, I don't think that you have to just put... It's quality over quantity. Uh-uh. Yeah, it is. I think it's balancing. Well, you can have some balancing that too. You don't want to wait a year before you drop a song. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to do that. You don't want to have a master. He at the same time, at the same time. What did you say, Lilia? You have a master yet. Have a master. To balance it. Well, I balance a lot of things though. You know, at the same time, I'm an engineer. You know what I'm saying? I help a lot of these six boys with their music, too. I know that. Yeah. We got a studio on Mount Pleasant. These are your works, man. And you always helping the artists? Yeah. Who's one of the hot artists that you working with over there? I mean, I just... I just got through Mix in the Home and another Home Big Bag Tim music. Okay. Uh, Keynote. We just got through it from the roll here. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of people, man. Shout out Big Bag Tim. Yeah, that's the home. Man, I'm telling you it's a... I don't want to get the name in it and forget. But it's a lot of people, you know? That's needed. It's like at least 20 artists that I'm working with. You know what I'm saying? That's dope. You know what I'm saying? So... I think that's cool, but you still gotta not forget about yours. Of course. That's the balance. You end up becoming an engineer. And that's it. I just... I mean, if you just keep doing like... Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm not trying to oversell it. I ain't trying to... I ain't trying to come off air again. That ain't too many rappers that's gonna make better songs in me period right now. The thing is, I need to do like what you said, be more... If I'm not consistent with dropping the songs, I need to get on that social media platform and be more consistent with it. You know what I'm saying? It's never a conversation if the music is good or not. You know what I'm saying? Like right now it's like people want to... Like the homies in Houston. Some of the homies in Dallas. Like you need to pop out, pop a run. My homeboy DJ Holly Grove. You know what I'm saying? Like you need to pop out this place, pop out that place, work these clubs, work these clubs. I get invited to this shit out of time and just be a little bit, you know. Mm-hmm. Hold for me to get on. Switch from daddy time, entrepreneurial time, rapper time. It's a little different when you run about yourself. So what have you balanced? What have you balanced like being a father and a rapper? Like how do you balance that? Shit, hold on. Nigga, I ain't had nobody show me how to be the daddy. You know what I'm saying? So I had to learn that. That's a hell of a statement. That's a hell of a statement. And then it's like, you don't know how to be a successful rapper until from nobody from East Texas until like right now. You know what I'm saying? You can look at it 10 years ago. I don't want to say 10 years ago. Years ago you had people like XO who had a great run. You know, but it seems like it's always something. We just now trying to get over the hump. You know? Yeah. I also tie in the way I work with a lot of people from East Texas on the engineering side. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just, you know... I think... Hey, what guy I got for you is going to come regardless. I say that all the time. But you know, like I said, down there, it was a statement that Trill Talk, No Peel Talk made about, I want to say, it was about a minute, a second time here. He said get him 10 rappers from... That was a year ago. That was a year ago. 10 rappers from East Texas and 10 rappers from Dallas and 10 rappers from Houston. Yeah, me and Killer Kelly Young got into it about that. Did y'all? Yeah. And what did you think about that when he said that? Because I always wanted to know what the infrastructure thought. East Texas got some good orders. Okay. We got some orders that can go head to head with some Metroplex Rapples. And you stand on that? The number is the question. How many? But we definitely got some. Yeah. We definitely got some. Hey. Who would you pick? Just five. I'm going to give you... Top five. My top five. My top five. Out of East Texas. No order. No order. Okay. So how am I going to look at this? Yeah, I don't be. I ain't put it in the order. I don't want to be five. I got to give you at least some though. Because we got some. I don't want to be five. I can't answer that. I'm going to bring five too. Okay, okay. No, I'm bringing five from Dallas, nigga. What's up? We going to smash, really. No, and I'm bringing five from Houston, nigga. We going to smash them. I got L.D. I got Tim. I got Kino. Shoot some of the G. Man, who am I choosing to stick in this fifth slot? Man, just to be real, the youngster too, man. A little broke. You know what I'm saying? Do you think that's a hard core five? Man, and just... And he left himself out. That's what I'm trimming off. That's on the stood though. I'm in there by the time I reached six. I'm talking about no. Just five that will go against this. Here though, I'm fed up. All right, will you crew on me out? You know? Nine and five. But you nine and your five probably know me too, though. Just be real. Man, I ain't going to play with it. I got to give me a Dallas. I'm going to bring me a Dallas person in here because I don't want to be biased. Nah, you said you're giving me five, bro. I got to let Dallas do it. No, no. You can do it. Let me make a phone call. No, no. You can do it right now. We don't need no phone calls. We ain't got to make no phone calls. I'm going to call a little DJ and see what he's saying. Well, that ain't going to tell me the five I need. I'd like to know who your five is. He's crazy. He's five. Mine completely different. Really? Yeah. Who would your five be? I would say, well, Al D would be in there. Hey, and I left off Smooty just because he didn't pop up in my head right there. No, no, no. Let me. No, no. It's over. It's over. That's the only person. That's the only person. That's the only person. That's the only person. I would say Rosama. Rosama? Who was that? Rosama. He's from East Tix, but he ain't from, like, I ain't in East Tix. Okay. You said that to the home? Yeah. What else would I put off in there? I would throw a Terri Terri in there. Oh, you're going to throw a female in there. Because she can do everything. Yes, she is. Hey, man. I stand on my five. Oh, look at how you stand on my five. I stand on my five. Well, we needed ten anyway. That's what I wanted. But it's... You got to have some versification in there. You can't even put Terri Terri over Joy, really. Just be real. Who is Joy? Thor is telling lies. Smithy Hawkins. I'm sorry. I'm saying over. I'll tell it. She's saying dance, rap, act, everything. Man. The whole package. Man. Big booty bitch from the South. We go down. No, no, no, no, no. That's going to rock hard anywhere. I know what you're talking about. He ain't talking about more. I'm talking about everything. That ain't what you asked me. You said I'm an artist. You said I'm an artist. Yeah, I'm an artist. You was talking about in a song for song aspect, wasn't you? No, we just talked about... He just talked about an artist. He just talked about... I'll tell you. It'll be talent. You know, like when that person show up, how the mask is going to, you know, pretty much say, hey, this is the best that we see. If a person came and he was putting a bag on him, he going to look at the overall artist like he's saying. Because it's the thing. Look at it. You can't... But you're talking about bars because you're a bar. Yeah, you're talking about... Yeah, I see exactly what he's saying. See, don't do that. No, you be spitting. Man, one day, man. One day, I'm... Yeah, I ain't... All the way up to where he needs to be. I'm just being real. I'm just being real. I don't feel like he... I don't feel a little better with you. I feel like he can... I feel like he don't do... He be holding back. That's how I feel like. I feel like he be holding back. You think he can be like... Yeah, I think he can be better. But there ain't nothing wrong with that. That should be a good time. You got a song with Dorez the Shun. Yeah. Yeah. How did y'all end up putting that together? Man, I just shat in the dog, man. I just shat in the dog. Like... My nigga, Kino, would tell you, like... You know, one of my roughest years, like... All we did was listen to Dorez the Shun. I felt this pain. You know what I'm saying? So I tried to hit him up on the ground. I guess he didn't check his ground. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, it happened. Nigga never hit me. It did. I hit his cousin. I think it's his cousin. It was just real close friends. The rocky two times. You know what I'm saying? I hit him. Sent him a song. And, you know, they gave me a real cold situation on that song. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So he been hitting me. He was just in Houston the other day. He asked me if I could come to Houston. I still... I looked at him and I was like, Man, nigga, I got the keys. I can't even just drive to Houston like that. But we still supposed to do it without... He a cool cat. He a cool cat, man. PGF shot, shot out. He always asked me about you. We talked the other day. And they best friend. That's his best friend. My son was with them last night, too. He shot me back. He straight shot me back to pictures. And he was like, I ain't saying nothing to him, Dad. I tell you off line why he was out there, nigga. Hell, boy. He gone, man. Amen for an established artist from another state. Because I get love in my state. But for somebody from another state to show me some love, you know, I ain't got nothing but great things to say about the nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? Because he ain't had to do it. For real, for real. He ain't even had to keep him no rapport with me either. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Well, he definitely won. He tapped in the boss talk. That's for dang sure. Yeah. The boss talk, we went out there and interviewed him. And not only that, we had a good time. And then just because of the relationship, me and shoutin' him got... That's probably one of the first place I check in when I go to ATL. I rock with them boys. Like, I'm gonna always go through, see what they doin' for, make any other move. You know what I'm saying? So them some good dudes, man. They always show love, too, when I come. They gonna open up a place for me. They gonna say, man, go over here. We got you this. And there's just love like that when I show up. So you write. He is real. There's some real ones, man. That whole PGF click. Oh, yeah, all of them. That whole PGF click is real ones, man. So who would you like to collab with, man? Like, what's next? On the code, man. Like, I really done did out of collabin' it. I really wanna do for real. You know what I'm saying? You did somethin' with Pooka. Who else you done did stuff with? Jadol. Jadol. Jadol. Are y'all seen that one, too? Me and Big Chief got one. Okay. See, Strokes. See, rest in peace with the homie, man. Yeah, I brought this family on. Did you see that episode when I brought it? Nah. I brought his brothers on here and gave him plaques, man. You got one of his last verse? You seen it then. Yeah, he got one of his last verse. I probably got his last verse. Like, I can't say that. I don't know for sure. Nah, he didn't want it in the hospital. For real? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. I thought you were bullshitting or not. Nah. That's crazy. That's why I said I can't say that. I don't know what his last verse was. He didn't want it in the hospital. Right before that time. You know what I'm sayin'? Cold nigga, man. I ain't even dropped that song yet. Never have dropped. Me and Pooka were talking. Pooka was tryin' to lick me in with his brother or somethin'. I was just gonna send him the song. Who I was on the song? Just me see Strokes and the homie Jadol is. His brother looks just like him. Yeah. Yeah. Go check that episode off when it was on. It was just about, what, about three, four months ago? Yeah. Yeah. Just always showing love to the people that came and, you know, that I can get to meet because I didn't have boss talk at the time. Right, right. So I want to try to link with the ones who really was, who made a difference, man. Those guys made a difference. And I remember good things about him, you know? Yeah. See, Strokes was real with me. It was real. So who else? I mean, Hickey, who would you want to link with? Yeah. Like on a bigger level. If you had to pick anybody you want right now, you can get a song with. Who would you pick? Don't say Drake, man. On the code. Why not? On the code. That's what everybody say. I mean, it's the honest truth. Really the truth. That's what I was saying. Like for real, for real. Just because it'll go right with it. Like Megan, you know what I'm saying? Like Megan the Stag. She probably going to rock with you because I've been in a real call a lot on here. Yeah, that ain't got. Just messing with you, man. I talked to T Ferris about a month ago. He was just saying they were just in the middle of doing a whole bunch of deals right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the song. The song got guys kind of like just paying credit to her for being beautiful bad and brown. You know what I'm saying? It's a sample on that beat. Ain't it a sample? Yeah. It's a sample on there. With Twister. Get away. Really? They got a song called What Is It Megan? Yeah. Yeah. The women love it, man. They making videos to send me to a center. To a tip top? Nah. Not yet. Man, we just discussed this problem, man. I'm slow rolling on that. See what I'm saying? Excuse me. Excuse me. Like assholes, everybody got them. Yeah, but Tik Tok is the way it gotta go. We got to go to Tik Tok. But you think you're gonna see me on Tik Tok dancing? No, you can get females to dance to your song and everything. Hey, be safe, man. All right. I ain't like when Megan dropped, like for real, I uploaded on the DSPs and stuff like that. But I ain't even knows that. I just seen a chick sent me a video. I love your song. I tripped out like, damn, this bitch out. And then it just kind of like rolled like that. How did that happen? I don't know. I was telling somebody, they said, you know, if people follow you on Apple Music, they can see when your music posts. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. I'm talking about the next thing I'll be playing until I show them the message. You're like, bro, I don't know who these people are. You know what I'm saying? They just took out to the song. So, you know, we gonna shoot the video to that. We'll do it for whatever. Check that out, though. So what inspires you to keep doing this rap? Like, I know it's kind of hard to stay motivated. Right now, I just got it. Right now, I don't never lose motivation to rap. For real, for real. But right now I'm just doing it. I started rapping. I started rapping. When I started rapping, it was for people who grew up like me. I had to reverse out my wrongs when I was 25, bro. Like, that's when I was really grown. I thought I was grown at 17. I ain't grown until 25. So I did that music just, hey, nigga, you ain't got to do this, this dead enough. You know, you can do this, too. But right now, I'm just here to prove the point. Everybody who don't believe when I drop this nix tape, they're gonna see. What's your favorite track out of them? Shit, I'm in love with Megan, man. I'm in love with me. So that's your favorite track out of your whole... Yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro. You asked me what was my favorite track. Yeah, man. That's what I'm saying. So that's your favorite... What's my favorite track? What do you say is your best song out of it? Everybody got a different perception of what's the best, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, right now, right now, if you go to my type songs, if you go to Apple Music, look at my songs, there's gonna be a couple of songs that pop up at it that the consensus thing is the best. You know what I'm saying? It ain't about what my perception is. Nah, I'm saying, off of your new album. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't nothing else like... A couple of those songs coming on there. Yeah, man. There's a lot of artists y'all to name in their top ten. I just thought back about that. You got Ro, and you got Ro Tarantino, and you got Cam. I stand on my team. Cam, you got Cam. I stand on my first. Cam, no word. That's what I'm saying. They let you know we got more. I'm not no hater though. I'm not no hater. Cam, no word is a vocally inclined. I just told y'all. I thought about certain people that... That's what I'm saying. That lets you know right now that East Texas got a lot of heat. For him to have... Well, I ain't talking about 3G Slash. You gotta come down there and he can hold it. If you don't do nothing else, the fire that I named if you ain't checked them out, really give them a chance, man. Yeah. Boys make good music. They got... Yeah, they just... If they talking loud, I'ma see them. Have you got an OP ass a little bit, man? Nah, I'm not gonna look, but they got to look for me too. But at the end of the day, I'm telling you, you gonna see them if they working. Why do I see Smooty all the time popping up? You tagging me. He tagging me. Yeah, that nigga's an algorithm, man. Nah, he's tagging me. Nah, but he's tagging me. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That nigga's a tag me. You know what I'm talking about? It's a... It's a certain nigga that's a tag. That nigga's like, C.C.O.P. gon' tag me. We ain't saying that C.C.O. really that got the most soul albums down there. Yeah, then you got C.C.O. of them too. Like, he got the numbers for Joe. I'm telling you. You're C.C.O. then you got C.C.O. Then you got C.C.O. Then you got C.C.O. That's cool. I'm being real. So what I'm saying is if you got these... You got all of these... Ay man. K.D. A.K.A. A.Flame, man. I.D. 300, man. K.N.O, man. Big O'Bag team, man. Ay. And Shoots McGee, man. And we gon'... We gon' get the mother boys. They shine too. Cam know where C.O.P. too. You know what I'm saying? Uh... Uh... I said smooth it, didn't I? Smooth it, C.O.P. through the motherfucker too. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's... That's what I'm talking about. All of it. All of it, like... There ain't no personal preference. Sometimes I really look at them niggas... Catalyze them niggas' music. They got their own, like... C.O.P. following too. Like... It's a reason why people fuck with them. You know what I'm saying? I said smooth it. Smooth it. You agree with them solely? What? On everything you said? Yeah, 100% I mean, but that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's so many people from East Texas that's rapping that's actually good. Like, it ain't just like... You can't say... It's some bullshit down there. Like, I always say it's a bunch of trash. You want to name that too? It's a bunch of trash. Like, if you trash, you know who you is. People know if they trash or not. Oh, that's opinion too, though. Because, like I said... I mean, that's true, though. Because it might be a whole new lane. They might have a whole thing. That's right. That's right. That's the... One thing about this you got to realize, guys. You can say and you can stand on what you believe in and that's cool, but the mass is going to speak. They're going to tell you what's good. And that's what trips me out because we'll say... Like, y'all probably wouldn't think, what's the name? Little Earl might not be good, y'all. I heard Little Earl. I didn't get on here saying nobody was trash, though. I'm just trying to make a point. The masses... Not for you. I was saying for the people who do this. People watch it. But the masses speak. You know, the masses going to tell you... I said it's a trash. Y'all forgot about tape money. No, no, we got her too. Like, I'm just saying. You know, it's easy to forget because she done met her success. You get what I'm saying? So, like... That's how people always be like, and the nigger jared out of line, if you're a young G, you got to give him his credit too. You know what I'm saying? He got his own motion out there too. So, like, when you start dropping videos, out the mud and they running 28,000 views, somebody watching, you know? That's more people that you know. You know what I'm saying? So, these texts just need a little... It just need a little exposure, man. I feel like we could be the next hope. I think you got to quit them. What do you think causing it? Not to. You know, it's the crabbin' a book in mentality. That's why I made sure I was trying to get some niggas some love because we don't really get that. You know what I'm saying? Shell and vibes too. You know what I'm saying? He called too. But, like, I think that's what it is. I think it's everybody so concerned we're getting there first. They stopping other people from getting through the doubt. You know what I'm saying? Well, really, you just got to do your thing. Focus on doing your thing regardless. Be the best you could be, regardless. Like, the arm is like, you know what I'm saying? And you can't lose like that. You can't make no trash music if you putting your pain in it trying to be the best you could be. Somebody told me, did Luce drop another... Yeah, he dropped a song another day. Song another day? Mm-hmm. He still locked up. Yeah. But he got a lot of music. Yeah, so he just dropped them every nine days. Yeah. That's cool. He locked up and he still can do that. You know what I'm saying? It was one more guy with them. Who was the four? Onside. Onside. How's he doing? Yeah, he's still right. He just dropped some. Okay. I'm just asking, you know, I don't know what's going on down there. That's why you here. You both tell me that stuff. Yeah. Man, there's a lot of stuff going on. It's just, man... I think y'all don't give yourself enough credit. Who the hell... Because there ain't nobody else doing nothing in other places either. You know, so... Yeah, that's real. I think a lot of time y'all tripping. Yeah, that doesn't seem like real. I mean, you got to think about... What I said when I first started. If you don't think it, who going to think it? Right, right, right, right. Nigga, I'm cold. Nigga, I'm the best in the south. Period. Second best. And I just start doing this. Second best. I like your energy, man. I ain't gonna let you... I'll be the one to land, but I'm gonna be the one to build a business. No, it's the truth, though. Yeah. Like, who else doing it like that? Like, then did it in this short amount of time, put up almost a thousand videos in almost a year and three months. Yeah. Who did that? It's crazy, man. You got some good kinds since a long. And it's real. And it's in LA. It's two times in LA. Two times in Vegas, two times in Houston, two times in Atlanta. Two times in... I'm about to go to Waco. I'm going with High Boy West Nail in a couple of weeks. And Waco trying Nail. I'm gonna come back to these Texas, me and you. That's your fault if I don't make it down there. But at the end of the day... Nah, you won't put that on me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. All you gotta do is tell me where we at. See, we try to put that on you. And I'm there. Nigga, he ain't gave it an open gate. I gotta know... I gotta check in and come home now. You're there. Yeah, you definitely gotta check in. Whoa! Boy, listen, babe. That boy Lou said, hey, he said run, so don't. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was here. We had him on here. He was a... He actually... I talked to him. Shout out to that boy Trill Talk. No pill talk for pretty much saying, hey, man, go on the interview. He told me to interview him. It's up to Trill Talk. Trill Talk, the one calling the shots. So, you know, when somebody don't get to come on time or nothing, you know what I'm saying? That's where it coming from. So anyway, he told me he shot the name. And I said, yo, tell a nigga to come see me. Like I told you about him a long time ago. Yeah, and then you didn't bring him, but it's cold over here today. No, I'll see you soon. You know what I'm saying? I heard that. When I got interviewed last time, he called and interrupted my interview. Damn. You remember, he interrupted my interview. I was like, how he ain't been on here? Can I say something about that? Go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, you can say something about that. I don't keep that short. I don't keep that short. Go ahead. Hey, man, I don't expect... I don't expect everybody to know me. You feel me? I said something because it's like, it's Christ. You know, poker. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, poker ain't never been on here. Not because of that. I'm just saying, like, you know, just if you're aware of certain people, like, I'd just be thinking, like, I don't watch every episode, but I could tell what kind of content. If I watch somebody that you come on, on your platform with, I'm gonna be aware of them. So I'm like, man, how do you make this all? No, I enjoy my people, man. Like I said, I'm one of them guys, man, that if I'm able to get a good... You know, I really like to see the projects coming from down there to be honest. I don't have a lot of people on here just once, and they don't come back to be honest with you because I'm waiting on the project to come back out. And then they don't come out. I can tell you, I can name them. You know, project came and been almost a year. Name them. But do it pose to be a year? Name them. HB hit me up the other day and told me, like, man, I got one for the come, but I ain't heard from no more. What I'm telling you is, if you're doing this, then when you put something out, you definitely should be tagging me. We already locked in. Right. If you leave here today and you don't tag me, Trio talk got to tag me. Nigga, you don't want it. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to be back on here for a show because you don't want me to see it. You know what I mean? But if we locked in, we locked in. And when I'm following you, you follow me, you tag me, say, hey, Edith, check this out. What do you think I'm going to do? And niggas do this from Louisiana. These niggas from other states doing this to me now. So it's really crazy because they've been on here before. You know what I mean? Shout out to that boy. It's a dude named Paco in New Orleans. Nice, bro. Y'all might know him. He had a song on World Store. He under K.L. K.L.C. I had to check him out. Check him out, man. He real cool. I went with him like two weeks ago. I was down in New Orleans. So what, um, as far as the music go? Okay, um, back to the music. Well, how do you feel about just the state of hip hop as a whole right now? Like, how everything going? Like, you know, like you got the young thug, them situations. So it's kind of looking like that drill rep and they have to kind of slow down a little bit. If they're going to be using them lyrics against people. That shit ain't gonna slow down. That should be going on. That should be going on since hip hop is going on. So how do you feel about the drill rep? Since fucking police. Since gangsta rapping in the West Coast. Nah, that's completely different. Nah, it's not. The same content. When the West Coast was breaking in the 90s, they weren't talking about... They weren't the same. They weren't wringing around a posy rapper. No, they wasn't. They wasn't talking about specific situations. Half the niggas that was rapping back then... There's some new... Half of the niggas back then was capping. Tupac was capping. All the niggas was capping. That's where you want to go with it. That ain't true. That's a fact though. That's a fact though. Tupac didn't have a criminal record until he got a number one chart. A number one chart or something. So you answered me. That's what I'm saying. How do I feel about reality rap? Yeah, it's like shit they take, not put so much into the rap. That's what you're saying, homie. Like okay, like you got thugged him right now. Like you got thugged him talking. Nah, I'm talking about Tupac. He wasn't doing it. He wasn't talking about his life. He was talking about what he's seen and other people doing his life. It's a difference from getting on a mic and saying you really... I really don't know what that man was doing, bro. This ain't Tupac. This ain't... Man, that's what I'm finna say. This ain't to you, but what I'm saying is I don't know what the... I know that nigga stopped the shit out there and nigga in that casino. Yeah, no, no, no. I'm not trying to do it. I'm not trying to do it. I'm not trying to do it. I'm not trying to do it. I'm not trying to do it. I'm not trying to do it. He just all of a sudden wasn't able to... He said he met some biggy wifey live. No, we don't know that. We don't know that. He got a picture with faith. Yeah, that's right. You don't know what that man did. I got a picture with... I got a picture with a lot of celebrities. That don't mean... Bro, it's not about me. That wouldn't direct towards you. You know what I'm saying? Like people be making these narratives and running with them. Y'all don't know what the fuck Tupac was doing. You know what I'm saying? You don't know what nobody was doing. How come we don't know? Tupac went to art school. Tupac was not her slide. Yeah, he was. I know a lot of... She was a slide. Yeah, she was. Yeah, bro. I know a lot of small ass niggas that are getting over there to bump her. So, you tell me... So, y'all tell me... So, y'all tell me... So, he was doing all that day. He still was a type nigga. Wears clothes, three times in a row. Had guns in the house. I understand all that. This nigga was a real cat, man. I understand all that. I'm just letting you show your age to my Shaggy licks. No! Because I met Shaggy. That's cool. Look, you see that wall up there? A lot of niggas, they ain't gone. They ain't even here no more. If you look at Ed Hardy, he ain't up there. He over there, but he might be hiding somebody. But a lot of some of them niggas gone. But what I'm saying is... You know what I'm saying? You cannot compare. You cannot compare a 90s rap to the rap now. It's completely different. It's completely different. Not completely different? Yes, it is. You got niggas actually incriminating themselves. Content is content. Like fully incriminating themselves in these... You talking about putting their pills on them? Like, everything. Like, they telling everything they do, really. To answer your question. To answer your question, bro. I think now it's just, you know, whenever they start talking about the hip hop elite, I think niggas just started focusing in on a way to get these hip-profile cases. That's what I think, bro. You feel me? Because to say that niggas one time, I'm stepping on shit. So you don't think niggas telling on themselves? Niggas been telling on themselves since all the stories. Now ain't me three or four rappers that told on themselves. I'm not going to do that, bro. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. What I'm saying is, it would be crazy to think that nobody told on themselves what you kind of telling on yourself in the 90s. They would be crazy. You feel me? Nobody did that. Well... It's a fact, though. You can't prove it. It's a fact. You just said you couldn't prove it. You can't name one rapper that was back in the day that was talking about, like, that literally talked about everything he did. Like, just take the YMW Milly situation. If he did, if he really, if he found get to that and he really did all that stuff that he rapped about and murder on my mind, then ain't nobody ever did nothing like that. Yeah, he's a bitch-ass nigga. He going to kill your partners and make a song about it. I don't know. I really don't. Yeah, niggas was moving different back then because they didn't tell on themselves. Exactly. That's how I'm saying it. But at the end of the day, you know, these young niggas today, man, they're a product of their environment. Niggas like, you know, the ones who was born before them didn't do right. That's why they end up locked up and going to jail for crack and all that. Yeah, you have to blame the generation of them. You got to blame the generation of them, yeah. I know. That's what happened. You know, it's really, it's sad because now they'll talk about them and they ain't talking to them. Mm-hmm. And a lot of these big homies, some of these high-up echelon niggas that ain't big homies. I mean, I'm talking about, hey, man, it can be Jay, it could be any of them niggas, man, if you see somebody going through it, I hope they got secret tunnels that they can highlight somebody and try to make things right with the people that they connected to because that's what we're here for, man. I'm being real. And I go for everybody, you know what I'm saying? Each one, each one. Yeah, exactly. And I think, you know, a lot of times, you know, you will hear this even with Jay Prince. Like, you see a sort of structure that where people respect him and they're not going to do certain things because of the respect they have for Jay. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Like, in these certain cities, like, you need that, man. If you don't have that, that's probably why a lot of times we talk about, like, East Texas and we talk about different cities, like, even in Philly or wherever. Where's the big home at? Where's the one who we really, you know, the record labels that word of people that structure that, that get that respect in these places. Now, I thought Boston is going to sell to people, right? No. No. Not really. I mean, we rock with everybody. We try to help everybody, but I really, to be honest with you, I don't want to sign a nigga to nothing. I'm going to put, if I help you, I help you. It's a lot of niggas. I done put thousands of dollars on. Gave them thousands of dollars and didn't get nothing back for it in return but the satisfaction of doing it. You know what I'm saying? I done that already. So, at the end of the day... What they have to do? What was you going with that? No, because he says, no, he's talking about the label thing. I mean... He was talking about... I got a lot of people that said, he was talking about hip-hop artists. So, I asked him, would he be interested in signing a nigga? Sign a nigga to make content like this? Yeah, I don't... Well, sign a nigga to help him with his rap career or sign a nigga to... That ain't what I'm into right now. I'm just trying to figure out a way to fill the foundation. I can tell you there's some big stuff coming to where when we make moves and you already know a little bit about it, I ain't going to talk about it, you know, just yet until we get it done. But it's going to make it to where we're going to make this whole plan feel different. In the South, I've been talking about it a lot. I was talking about it with Larry Uvenham last night. Like, it's going to change the way y'all being looked at right now. And I'm putting money up for that. You know what I'm saying? And ain't... It's magic. Am I going to get something out of it? The satisfaction of seeing people get noticed. You understand what I'm saying? In a different way that we don't have that... We're not afforded the opportunity right now in the South. You know what I mean? People... Guys come with time, though. You know, I feel like in a couple of years, things will look different. And it has no choice but to, you know? What do you see in, like, say, two or three years? Where I'm based in? Not, like, East Texas. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. East Texas. I feel like you got to look at... You got to look at where we at now. There's so many orders from East Texas that already have networking relationships with orders, industry orders, orders with way bigger platforms than what we have in the nation on a nigga's love right now. You know what I'm saying? We done had a few niggas with, like, real situations. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? This is Ireland, like, 24 months. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, how does that not keep going? You know what I'm saying? That's gonna... Regardless how that pans out for them people, that's gonna make other people more hungry. Yeah. And regardless if your list was valid or my list was valid, niggas got 14, 15 niggas that they could really say, hey, man, these niggas got music, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like... I know it. I got my hands on too much just the music. You know what I'm saying? I got my hands on too much music from too many people. You know what I'm saying? Rotantino was just in the studio. Me and Rotantino ain't cool like that, but I'm listening to his music. I'm like, man, this nigga really got something on here, too. You know what I'm saying? For real. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no. I'm usually... You know that I'm usually spot-on with shit like that, too. Niggas don't like to give me that credit, but I'm usually spot-on with it, man. If anybody with a business sense, man, you know this is soul that needs to be cultivated out here. The problem is the people. You know what I'm saying? Not necessarily the orders just the people that are around. You know what I'm saying? Explain. Explain. Keep going. I just know, like I said, again, I don't look at it the way everybody else look at it. I don't look at it from East Texas, 10.0. You know how I look at it. I don't look at it from a Dallas standpoint. I look at it from a Texas. No, I look at it from the South. I want it to feed from up, from down here up. Right, right. Because right now it feeds from up to down, from the West Coast down, from the East Coast down. The way it feeds. You got people here, but they go to New York to sign their deals, and a lot of times if they go to Atlanta, it's called they connected to somebody in New York. So I'm looking at something totally different, bro. Even in that sense though, like how they're running through Atlanta, it's somebody get some paper out there. No, they get paper, but they all go back to the same central location. They all, when you look at the, when you start looking at hip hop, even Birdman them, it's the thing where they're universal. They go, I'm telling you, I know what's going on with the money, where the big bad coming from. Yeah. So we got, but we got money and we got situations here too. And that thing started up there, but at some point when you raise something, it's supposed to take off on its own, right? We got some solid businessmen down here. I'm an engineer with companies that a billion dollar company, bro. I'm dealing with a lot of different people. You know what I'm saying? I know that it can happen down here if we decide that we want to come together and do it with the right individual. And it transcends color too. It's not just about color. You understand what I'm saying? It's about business. It's not business at the end of the day. Ain't no color in business. Building a foundation. You know what I mean? You got Robert Smith here, you know? Robert Smith, the richest black man in America. He right in Austin. It's stuff like that. Like if you can, he don't, and he don't rap. He don't play basketball. He's a bank investor. He started with software. You can look him up. He won. He gave $40 million to Morehouse. That's dope. Yeah. For the kids that graduated in 2019. So when you start looking at stuff like that, you know the resources are here. He gave back to his people too. Yeah. And then he built, he gave $22 million to the place I went to in D.C. Man. To make a museum. I don't know that money able to trickle down to the hood though. Well, that's what I'm saying. I think when you look at it, it can. I think it does too. I think there's ways where it does trickle down. I don't think that he wouldn't help. It does trickle down when he go and pay that $40 million to people who went to college. Yeah. You give him work. You give him work opportunities. He took away all the student loans. He took away everything. That's what people be. How people suffer by student loans and all kinds of stuff, man. Yeah. I understand that. But I'm saying like. And some of them niggas came from the hood. What I'm saying. Am I right? Them kids that went to Morehouse. Them kids that come from the old. These are black kids, man. Best local black guy. Exactly. So he gave in that way. You know what I'm saying. But Oprah went out and bought cars for. Don't do that though. Oprah fed the world. Oprah played. Oprah actually fed. Oprah paid also into that museum. She didn't pay as much as. She gave chicken. Hey man. You know how many people have a dial in their pocket today and went to see him. There you go. I didn't get to eat that. I wish I had a new. When did this album? I got this one in my pocket right now. You think KD can freestyle him? Who? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Come on. Check it man. Before KD fight man. Everybody about to drop it. Hell man. If I could go down. These tags in the building. I ain't trying to find a witness. Lately I been minding business. Shining like I'm walking out the diamond district. Niggas talk crazy until they see you. This their generation. Big 40, big dick. She itching for penetration. Paws niggas living in the world where they idolize women. And they trials nigga. I'm looking at my daughter. Just praying that she got God with her. Wild, wild West nigga. R.P. the Hoppo. I just hit the city to catch her player. Where else far go getting money? Is how did I know? I got a bitch with a voice so sweet. She can pilot scam the city with her ass close. Another one that's sticking. You can see her from my side pose. He's kissing his bitch. I get it jumping like a side pose. Stop playing man. Stop playing man. That wouldn't. Say man. Yeah man. Just wanted the dopest artist. You know had to come out of East Texas man. And come bless our platform man. Just love the way the vibe went man. With the freestyle man. So man just what mode do you go into when you start to just rap man. And just bring it like you just brought it. Just the energy. Just the energy of the music man. Like I just. Try to give people something they can feel. You know like a lot of people they work at the music. A lot of people they be in the car riding the music. Just try to give them something they can feel. Man definitely enjoyed it man. So what did you think about it? Pretty good man. You know what I'm saying. You're hard on that nigga. He kind of still you know. You know. Is he one of the ten like you said for real? Yeah he's one of the ten. But you know he just I just got to stay on him. He kind of. Okay. He kind of hard hit it. The gatekeeper is spoken. Yeah. East Texas gatekeeper in the back. God got me man. I'm going to be straight. I don't know if I'm going to open the gate for him. I ain't look man. I ain't look man. I ain't look man. Me doing what I do. Is the reason anybody know me. So you know what I'm saying. You got to be okay. You feel me? We got big love for you man. Thank you for coming on the show. Man I appreciate you man. Say what's your top three Odyssey all the time? My top three Odyssey. Dead or lie. Yeah man. My top three Odyssey. All the time is nine oh three man. Shout out to triple G. Taylor NNT. Uh uh uh uh. Crowds. Okay. Now that's 33 now. Man it's East Texas man. That's out of my mind. Now that's top three all the time. You got to do that. Everybody know that. You got to do that. You got to get your top three people. Top three. Hey that is top right there. That's all you have to say. Right there. That's actually my favorite for real. See that's real bro. Yeah. Ain't going to. Tupac was still captain. No don't do that bro. Let me give my other two orders for you to start there bro. Don't do that bro. Number two. Niggas love Tupac man. Number two. DMX. DMX is going to be number two. And then LeWayne. LeWayne. Hey man how can people get a hold of you if they trying to you know get in contact with me. Man I'm back on Instagram. KDAKflame. On everything. That's what it is on everything man. Just highlight me for anything. Same man. We love you bro. Man I love y'all too man. Same man. And we real with boss talk. You know what I'm saying. One on one where the boss is talking. Nah we not going to do that bro. We out. Same man. Check it man. This been another great segment. Check it man. Not that right there. Been another great segment of boss talk one on one where the boss is talking. Check it man. We out.