 I get political. I don't like war at all and make it political. Yeah, maybe an inconvenient truth that you don't like gore, but I'm enjoying coffee today in my it's a frappe mug. Oh, look at that the classic which kind of is not great I mean, I love the joke and I'm a fan of the pun. But when I made it, I forgot that fraps are cold by their design Oh, cold coffee cannot do that Not a nice Mm-hmm Wait a minute is this gonna get flagged Performances are that good. Yeah, that was like the real thing You owe us money for your horrible horrible rendition of our favorite song. I Will say though, okay, but to do Africa is like Most people's favorite song. I think it's well loved by a lot of people. Yes. I like it. It's not my favorite song No, okay. All right, what it what is your favorite song Roger? Well, it depends because it depends on the genre like I like certain That's like I wouldn't I'm picking a a favorite like a single It's it's Africa by total you may have heard Easily the best song ever was I was super into the smiths and depeche mode in the 80s So like all my favorite songs are like I like them too though But like is that your favorite song? No, it's total by Africa For Africa by total favorite song might be ooh child by the five stair steps That one's good. I actually like human nature like I had to put something in constant replay human nature would be at one You know why you like that Tom's because it's been revived and the guardians of the galaxy Makes you think of it now when you watch the garlics of the galaxy the garlics of the galaxy keeping the vampires of the I was into that song before it was cool though. Oh Yeah, it was a he was alive when it was recorded. That is a good song And we'll give you that so the the oldest songs in my role revolving playlist. We should start the show actually Who child ain't no woman the four tops live in life Kathy McCarty and one by one by Billy Bragg and Wilco You are so old-school, I mean I Strike it rich to Pesh mode and the Smiths were not emo Okay, but we have that settled Sarah. Would you like to do the pre-roll? I would okay? Three two Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday, April 11th 2018 from DT in this headquarters in Los Angeles I'm Tom Merritt and from 2d a field line. I'm Sarah Lane hold it down here in Salt Lake City in 70 degree weather I'm Scott Johnson 70 degrees at April. It's toasty Rolling the crackling bones for us this week Roger Chang our producer my crackling now. Oh, you're not great Yeah, the Pesh mode and the Smiths are not emo For sure are no, they're not it's a blogger Later after the show going to talk technology news here We are we are saving the Facebook stuff till the end because I don't know that there's really anything super crazy There's a couple things to talk about but let's start with a few tech things you should know Spotify announced its premium members can now add Hulu as a bundle which raises the price from 999 a month to 1299 a month Also sources till Bloomberg Spotify is working on a new version of its free music service for a mobile the updated version Supposedly can access playlists more quickly and gives more control over songs people hear Spotify has a press event scheduled for April 24 The US FDA has approved an AI powered device that can be used by non specialists to detect Diabetic retinopathy in adults with diabetes the most common cause of vision loss the IDX DR software Analyzes images of your eye taken with a topcon NW 400 camera which can be used in pretty much any doctor's office eyes are good We should take care of them a jury in the US district court for the eastern district of Texas awarded Vernet X holding company holding corporate rather 502.6 Million dollars us from Apple for violations of four patents pertaining to secure communications in FaceTime VPN and demand and I message or VPN on-demand and I message however The patents at issue have been declared invalid in cases That are currently before the US court of appeals for the federal circuit in washington When those trials and the jury award Awards may be just invalidated The verge notes that email sent to g-suite administrator says google is planning a redesign of the gmail web interface in the coming weeks Members of its early access program can get it pretty soon The new design will include smart reply email snoozing and offline support things that have Been available in some of the apps like inbox from google now coming to the web Let's talk a little bit more about a strange piece of malware. This is very odd Malware hunter team reported pubg ransomware is making the rounds if you haven't seen this yet This is what it works like like most ransomware if you get infected encrypts your files That's a huge bummer, but unlike most ransomware. It doesn't want your money or even your bitcoins After it has encrypted your files. It shows a pop-up asking you to play pubg That's player unknowns battlegrounds for those uninitiated. It's first person shooter game For one hour to decrypt them you have to play pubg for one hour to decrypt them Now if you don't feel like playing pubg for an hour It also gives you the key to restore your files immediately In 2017 malware hunter team found resinware, which required you to play th12 and score 0.2 billion points In order to recover your files It's an odd thing and a lot of people are playing playing pubg anyway So maybe this makes no difference to anybody. I was gonna say is this an anti fortnite Sort of situation where someone's like let's get people playing pubg again by encrypting all of their files and forcing them Except not forcing them Which honestly is like in pubg. That's probably Two rounds of the game. It's really not that much work to do that for an hour and it's a lot of fun So I don't see where the downside is other than I don't like the idea that anybody has ransomware at my files. I mean, that's yeah That would be the downside, right What's not to like It's very odd though. It feels like the most trolley ransomware we've had in a long time where it's not about the money It's not about the bitcoins. It's not about Zombying up your computer. Although who knows? Uh, it's about making you play a video game and I've never apparently it says you have to play it for an hour But you only have to play for like three seconds before it starts Decrypting the files. So it's not even truthful in what it's telling you you have to do And it gives you the key. You don't have to play pubg. It gives you the key right on the pop-up. It's just unnecessary Uh, but it seems to be somebody who's really a fan of pubg. I guess that I hear here's what I think They're actually doing. I think it's brand is If they're doing this so that they're just testing to see who will fall for this Maybe they're working on something bigger more nasty Okay, maybe Uber is partnering with get around to let car owners rent their vehicles in a feature called uber rent starting in san francisco This month uber is also partnering with masabi to offer the ability to purchase public transportation tickets in 30 locations worldwide Including la new york, london and boston uber also announced the expansion of uber bike into Washington dc and plans to share data with government and civic agencies there Now this seems this is a big change this last thing you just said which is uber cooperating with government That's something we've seen lyft do but under travis callanik It was something uber did the opposite of quite often coser shahi the new ceo of uber seems to be not only Uh looking at uber more as a transportation solution in general But also willing to like play nice with localities, which i think is a smarter maneuver for him I also think that if you've got a car sitting around This is kind of cool, you know like a lot of people i know are using Ride sharing and and these kinds of things more often mostly lyft around here people really like lyft But uh the idea of you having something in the garage that's sort of just collecting dust But you're saving gas by not using it. It's there for emergencies or whatever The idea that you could Rent that thing out and actually get some value out of that or some money out of that is a really interesting turn I would have not seen this coming I actually tried to rent my car and get around uh recently because I work from home and I don't really drive, you know days go by where I don't Be right out to your car. Yeah run out my car and get around was like, yeah Yeah, we you know your your your area is not, you know in our area yet. Oh, that's cool Yeah, because this is not I mean this has been going on for several years now There have been several companies besides get around that have been doing exactly this scott This isn't new what's new is uber putting their uber muscle behind it. Yeah, I like I like the flexing of the uber muscle Um, but I didn't know this was a thing until I until I saw this article today I didn't know I could ever have done this now if you say scott are you going to go do it tomorrow Like now that you know, will you do it? I don't know. There's also something kind of weird about this Like I don't know why I may be getting older something but the idea if somebody Have an access to my console in the middle and there's like, I don't know I think it puts something weird in the dvd or the uh The cd player are they gonna rifle through my glove box? Yeah, the bluetooth is going to be all messed up and you get back in the car My channels are going to be all messed up. They're going to change all my radio channels My preset we know many of you have worked for rental car companies before send us your stories Of why you would or would not write your own car out Yeah All right, the united states f tc sent warning letters to six companies who market and sell automobiles Cellular devices and video gaming systems. Those are the f tc's words by the way The letters addressed concerns about the companies telling consumers that they must use specified parts or service providers to keep their warranties intact Here's a quote from the letter Unless warrantors that's the people making the devices unless warrantors provide the parts or service for free Or receive a waiver from the f tc such statements generally are prohibited by the magnus and moss warranty act of 1975 in other words That warning sticker on your device that says you'll break the warranty if you remove it and and get inside your device Is not enforceable according to the f tc companies that have been contacted at 30 days to update their websites and comply with the law Whoa, all right. So The supply to mattresses and those tags No, the tags thing is a whole different thing that was for the shipper like they're not allowed to take the tag off until You can take it off once you get your mattress. That's always been misunderstood. All right fair enough, but uh, all right So somebody gets a lot of electronics. I have consoles I have the switch over here. It's got a little thing on it says if I go inside of this switch I'm voiding the warranty that nintendo would otherwise offer me or offer me Can I take this as now the New law the standard not the new law, but the standard as to which I should interpret these things And I'm okay to crack that thing open and do what I want Yeah, if you're in the u.s. All right What can I open first Well, you don't forget like if you break something that will still void your warranty There are other ways to void your warranty But what the f tc is saying is you can't just put a sticker on something and tell people You have to fix this through us or lose your warranty if a a competent person opens up a machine And replaces something and doesn't break anything that shouldn't void the warranty and the f tc is saying That that's true for video game systems and cellular devices which It's always been something I think of 15 dollars or more of value But people debated whether consumer electronic devices fell under the magnuson Act or not the magnuson moss act or not The f tc is clarifying they're saying yeah these things fall under the magnuson moss act We we're interpreting it that way today. So you sony nintendo apple You can't force people to come to you for parts and service. They're not and and this is not To be confused with the law that's being proposed that would force companies to provide parts at an affordable cost Which is something that's done for appliances. This just says you can't force people to Avoid their warranty by doing competent repairs themselves Makes sense. Sarah. What are you going to crack open and take into a third party repair center? zero things Well, and I I think this is something that a lot more people yell about than we'll use right I'm not saying it's a bad thing But a lot of people have been clamoring for this and making a big deal about it making their cause celeb Building their name on it and now that it's a little more clarified I guess they could start clamoring for even more like and parts parts should be made available more more equally Uh, which is which is another problem But if you take it down to the you know, there's a shop over here in my neighborhood that repairs game consoles and phones and stuff Uh, and one time I went to sell an xbox and he's like um stickers been removed I I can't resell it really because it's because it's out of warranty And and now he would feel more comfortable buying something like that because the warranty isn't necessarily violated. Oh Well, that's interesting. I mean if it does feel like um I wouldn't call this a loosening of the rules But a bit of an understanding of these rules is always a good thing And again, it only applies to us here in the in the u.s. But I I like it when there's clarification for what I'm able to do or not do and Lord knows there's not a lot of that these days. So I welcome it Facebook confirmed that approximately 1500 users gave professor alexandra kogan's personality test app permission to access their messages inbox Kogan later improperly shared data. He collected in the app with cambridge analytica Facebook stopped allowing users to give permission to access messages in 2015 I like the way you phrased that there Uh, because most of the phrasing is facebook gave away messages to cambridge analytica 1500 people and and yes Uh, we've gone through this a million times. Uh, facebook certainly did things that didn't stop this and and there's some questions about You know, how hard they really tried to stop it But it was kogan who gave the data away and it was people who agreed to share their messages I don't think I and correct me if i'm wrong people, but I don't think sharing your messages content was default I think you had to go in and actively say, yeah, I'll I'll share my messages with apps. That's fine Right, I think you had to agree to that. It may have been a default checkbox when you installed the app I don't know, uh, but uh 1500 people implies that it wasn't default I think it would be a lot more so these are people who decided made an active decision like man I'm gonna let this thing access my messages Yep, um of all the facebook stuff that's been going around the couple last couple of days these two sessions or anything Honestly, and I've been listening to daily tech news show I feel like this is maybe the the one thing that even jumps out at me is significant or interesting Like it's been a whole lot of And I know you guys have talked about that and we don't have to talk about it that much more But I'm not getting a lot of substantive stuff that I was hoping to get out of it Like maybe a I don't know a better view of how they see our data versus how we might see our data It all seems to have just come down to well We've been running this way for a long time and nobody was really paying attention Including users who just sort of willy-nilly accept people or apps that say sure sure It's just well and also, you know This was a story that we talked about yesterday the idea of the dating data breach bounty program. It's like You know at facebook is like we're going to give you money if you, you know Bring something to our attention that we are not uh, you know aware of Where does this fall? Well, yeah, this this falls no different than any other Cambridge Analytica thing all this is is is saying oh Another thing that was shared with kogan that kogan then shared with Analytica were these messages So if you if you if if this program had been going on in 2015 and someone had discovered this This doesn't change that Facebook CEO mark zuckerberg spent his second day of testimony in front of the u.s. House tuesday or i'm sorry wednesday Zuckerberg has been questioned on facebook's handling of user data. It's effect on us elections It's advertising business model monopolistic traits The new stuff since we last talked about this yesterday zuckerberg told the house committee His own data was included in the data sold to malicious third parties We'd pretty much meant Cambridge Analytica Zuckerberg also admitted facebook collects data on non-users as a security measure According to him to prevent malicious actors from repeatedly accessing facebook to harvest public information This is a practice often called shadow profiles That could let facebook also make accurate friend suggestions to new users as well Although zuckerberg didn't say that part in testimony It is the first public comment on the practice by facebook So to my mind, this is the only significant thing to come out of today's testimony was zuckerberg on the record to the house saying Yes, we do this thing that gizmodo has been reporting about for two years And it's the first time anyone connected with facebook officially has said that Shadow profiles. That's nice and dark. Isn't it? I like that Well, he did he actually very clearly was like, I don't know what shadow profiles means when when the house Representative used that word because yeah, he doesn't like the sound of that but also Companies track non-users all the time. So this is just what facebook does with that information The fact that he didn't cop to the fact that like hey, we also use it when new users sign up is kind of shady to me Yeah, well, they're done after today, right? Just two days or is there more to this? That's it. That's it for now. Um You know, we'll see if Far as we know. Yeah, let's see if he gets called back Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines You're it's available as an amazon echo flash briefing google home on the anchor app or a daily tech headlines dot com So sarah, uh, we got a couple of stories today about api is getting cut off. We do okay, so Okay, so let's let's we'll start at the beginning api changes will break Something that tweetbot and twitterrific. I I happen to be a user of tweetbot. So this actually makes Is very uh significant to me Twitterrific and tweetbot alerts and streaming twitter is not yet sharing the new solution though What will they do ahead of the june deadline we do not know Well, this all came it all started with this announcement that steam spy, which is a service i've used before it's basically a third party website that Gets revenue from ads and things like that but their their job is to skim data available in valves steam Uh library settings for various users that way they can sort of compare who has what games How how much time have they spent in those games? I could very easily look up and say, all right, tom marrett has spent So many hours in civilization five or whatever Uh, that's been a thing you could do for quite a while uh valves changing their api much like you mentioned the twitter api is changing and That got me to thinking about what that means for somebody like steam spy steam spy is going to shut down They've said well, they've broken what we do Like literally our entire model was based on us pulling Specific data from the api when they stopped giving us that data We can't do our job. Therefore. Goodbye steam spy Uh Same thing could i'm not saying it will but it could happen depending on what happens with twitter and what they you know What lifeline they might put out there? Um between bot twitterrific these other kinds of apps that use twitter on mobile They may be in a world of hurt some somebody asked me earlier today with this effect Uh tweet deck and I said well no because twitter owns tweet deck now They don't actively update it in the way that they do twitter prime But it's still there and one would assume it will continue to do what it does Unless suddenly they announce that they're not going to use it anymore But it brings us back to that same point When somebody changes your settings or sorry when somebody changes their api and you rely on that api to do whatever it is you're doing Is that something that we should be? Watchful of angry about concerned about or Is this just a big hoop to do about nothing like if you tie your entire wagon to somebody else's api and everything you do is dependent on it Knowing that they have full control over it. There's nothing, you know unlawful about somebody changing their api it's just how Pulling from an api and Building your business on that is like okay great But if you don't have a partnership They can do whatever they want to do And you know, why why are you frustrated later? Like Listen, I use tweet bot. I'm very happy with tweet bot. That's that's my twitter client You know, I don't see ads that you know There's all sorts of things that people talk about twitter that i'm like meh I use tweet bot so I don't get any of that But they twitter does not own tweet bot the way that they own Uh tweet deck tweet deck So so, you know, it's like Well, you know at any point. I think you should Be uh, you know ready for it to not work out anymore Well, but then why build on the api at all? I mean the the point of an api is like, hey, we want you all to build on the platform, right? Come on in use our api make some stuff And and I think what people get mad about is they're not mad like well, yeah, it's twitter's api. They can do what they want But hold on We were using that api Because you told us to and we built value for your company So sure you have the right to turn it off But we also have the right to be really angry with you for that and not trust you and and and such In the future now twitter has delayed the deprecation of the old api It was originally going to go off june 19th They'll give 90 days notice of a new deprecation date after the new account activity api Becomes available. So it's probably not going to be as bad as it sounds first of all It's not going to disappear june 19th Second of all there will be a replacement before they deprecated It sounds like this just was mishandled by twitter But it may be more costly. Uh, one of the things that tweet or uh tweet bot was pointing out Was they don't know what the cost is of this new account activity api That is replacing the old api And there is a cost associated with an enterprise level And twitter says we'll make sure that everybody knows what that is ahead of time as well So twitter kind of scrambling to get ahead of this Uh, when when they probably should have been ready for it earlier steam on the other hand I don't know scott was steam spy Using an api or was it just kind of taking advantage of something That steam maybe didn't intend them to be to use that way. They were tied into the api Steam would argue or valve would argue That uh, maybe they gave away too much This is them pulling back a little bit and even twitter could argue that the big concern of the big freak out about twitter is that We might be those who are used to tweet bot and other apps that give us Chronological post listings when you posted it in the order you posted it Instead of this new weird world of you know algorithmically displayed postings the way instagram went the way facebook goes They would prefer to stay with tweet bot for those reasons and this is going to mess that up Um, at least that's the talk right now until a solution is provided by twitter as to the contrary So their apps kind of become No longer the reason people think they're cool, which is they retain the chronological order While the main app didn't so there's questions there, but this is a long history thing Uh, I feel like twitter came out of the gate going. Yes, everybody. Let's go get into the car We're all together on this api this api that I want as many services and apps as possible And let's just go do this together and then they pulled back and then they pulled back and then you started seeing More of that whole thing where you had to have a token and if there were too many tokens For a third party they couldn't make an app for twitter So people dropped like flies the there's only a couple left really two three handfuls of of alternative twitter apps So it just feels like a long line of them slowly saying add never mind get out of the car We're tightening up the car We don't want you guys in the car to continue my bad metaphor although I think that I think there is that history of that with twitter. I think in this case It was more like oh crap. We forgot that the car is still running. Uh, we'll delay things We promise we don't want to have that fight again. So maybe they're doing the right thing Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories of vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and in our facebook group facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show and since we're talking about twitter We do have a twitter handle too. It's daily tech news Doesn't mean be quiet. It means there's a character limit on user IDs Let's check the mailbag sarah Let this one comes from yanniv. He says I was listening to this was yesterday show You were talking with patrick about google transcription services I do video production in spanish here in los angeles Sometimes we have to transcribe interviews in spanish I upload them to youtube and then I download the transcription in spanish have to say very impressed with the results Punctuation is non-existing But the transcript itself is excellent and very few mistakes. It's not a translation It's a transcription of the video. I have to say I tell my clients all the time I have a special software to the transcript So thank you to youtube for being my special software. Well, apparently it's going to get better now So yanniv can appear even cooler to his clients And then drew wrote in and said on tuesday's episode during the discussion around sweden's move to a cashless society patrick made the statement that cash is still a medium for the disenfranchised as he put it I work for a large u.s. Based retail service provider who employs tens of thousands of lower income high turnover employees Whose population set typically overlaps greatly with the unbanked or underbanked populace These are people who go to cash checking places to cash their payroll check many years ago We moved to direct deposit only for payroll services But because many of our employees do not have access to a checking account We continued an exception process where those folks were still mailed paper checks biweekly Because of the relatively no low number of those the cost of the company has been Astronomical on the order of 20 a check and not having bank access Those employees still must cash those checks at a business that charges them a significant fee in order to convert them to cash So we are now transitioning to a pay card system and deprecating paper checks entirely Employees without access to direct deposit banking will now be issued an electronic debit card through a third party The balance of their pay will be automatically loaded on the card every payday Fees are low for the employees much better than debit gift cards Which can be purchased at retail and loaded with cash at the retailer and significantly lower than cash checking places And they can withdraw cash from any ATM if necessary It's not a perfect solution and I have had several concerns along the way However, it is an example of the opposite of patrick's point where the disenfranchised are moving to a more cashless society as a result Very interesting perspective drew. Thank you for that And your listeners they always have these experiences and things. It's um, it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's really good It's really good stuff And a great example of how you know, we make assumptions like oh Well, if you don't have a bank account, obviously cashless isn't going to work for you And it's still true in many cases But here's a case where it actually is more of a benefit to go cashless and a way to go cashless without a bank account Thank you to yaneve. Thank you to drew and thank you to scott johnson for being part of the show today Scott, what has been going on in your world and where can folks keep up with your work? Well, my api is still wide open folks Happen to me by gum. There's no restrictions. Um, I'm perfectly chronological as well. Anyway There's all sorts of cool stuff going on. I have a Kickstarter happening any minute Hopefully this week. I'm just sort of waiting on some final numbers For playing cards. You're like, what? Yes. I'm making my own playing card deck Jokers all that stuff I was fascinated with that stuff as a kid and I just need to finally make my own card deck So that sounds interesting to you. Maybe custom poker chips that kind of stuff or maybe an unlocked deck where tom merit Is a king or a jack or a joker or the four of clubs or the four of clubs No The four of clubs in high school. He was famous for being that guy But if you're interested in any of that or anything else I have gone going on over In my part of the world, check it out at frogpants.com or follow me on twitter at scott johnson excellent Now folks, uh, we always try to get one more patron than last month when last I mentioned this We were 10 fewer than last month now We're 11 fewer than last month even though some of you have pledged So, uh, some folks have have had some financial difficulties and they fall off So if you've been dithering about like, I know I can afford a dollar a month. 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What in the heck is going on in glendale Don't know he's roger nothing's changed Nothing's there's got to be something though Well, yeah Like something of the water Well, maybe not the water, but maybe something something in the internet connection in the air internet connection is fine I'm true. Well, like in the air tonight. Well, why are you crunching something in the air tonight? I think it's phil Collins is in your computer. Maybe it's just google Uh, yeah, no, it's a codec thing. I'm almost convinced codec mismatch of some sort, but I don't know why Yeah, because I guess at the google did a week ago that is causing you frustrations Um, yeah, I haven't changed anything in my setup. Um I know isn't that weird Well, the only reason I say that is because I was like, you know, it wasn't long ago that we were like What's wrong with sarah's connection? Yeah, right, you know, it's never the connection It's almost never the connection because connection problems are so intermittent unless you just have a really bad connection It's it's almost always the drivers voice and video is so efficient now. Like you're it's the packets are minimal The traffic's prioritized. It's usually something else And it was for me when I was having issues a couple weeks ago and Turned out to be well, that's when I found out I could get a bit and now everything's better, but video codec But what was it? It was my router or not my router. I had a Switch in between the router and the network and it was farting out like a mother And I still don't know why I was doing it but replacing it with another switch totally fixed it So I was happy to just let that mystery be a mystery You know, we are flirting with disaster by talking about it while rogers Kodak is working. Hello. Hello. Is it garbally? Oh, it's so bad right now. No, stop it scott. He's oh my gosh I've never heard such car. That's good. He'll give him a complex Never sounded better Application programming and furiating Oh, that's not bad I want that a lot. There weren't a lot of titles this episode Scott's api is wide open about my api is afk Api is wide open I got a snicker out of sarah. I feel pretty good about it. Yeah Yeah, that's sort of Not really a full belly laugh Okay You can't just put a sticker on it and ways to void your warranty If you like it, then you just put a sticker on it. Oh my gosh, I was thinking that same thing ton I like application programming and furiating but roger would it's your Do that. That's my first pick All right, I like that as long as people understand that we're making api joke I believe it's the right crowd for that probably If there ever was one, this is it there was ever a crowd this is one See that song it'll get into your soul Toto request live We only take requests for toto songs Even a song like total eclipse of the heart. I just called toto eclipse of the heart Well, so a friend of mine was like, you know, I was talking about africa Do the best song ever because that's what you do and she was like, oh, that's so funny Yeah, toto is doing like a reunion tour um Yeah, like like the you know, or at least in you know, certain markets Whatever certainly in la and I was like Well, okay, so africa and rosanna are both great songs, but like 99 can Okay, 99 That's three How about that, uh, you know fourth like what what the reunion tour like what what else we got? Yeah, I mean It takes a lot to get me in a crowd Weirdo pot All the money in the world can't get me in a crowd. I don't like concerts just for the sake of them Well, I'm smaller than everybody so I can't see anything And I also don't like people Here's one. Okay. I had to look it up to be to be fair, but uh, here's one that we all know But I think everybody forgets his toto hold the line. Oh, oh Yeah, that's a good one Mm-hmm, but like but like you're not going to the concert to like hear that to hear hold the line, you know, right? You're like, oh, I forgot you sang this you're gonna stand in line to hear hold the line Probably sing human nature too Well, they could right that part of it is fair pretty cool We'll play the michael jackson thing that roger informed us about You can only know So it's an appreciative Well, now you can know about it if you're a youtube viewer I just can't believe that tom was like, oh, that's not my favorite song like That's Like what else would it be? That is your favorite song. He just it's not even on my playlist Oh There's a really good cover by reliant k I would recommend by the way reliant k I'm always skeptical bands that name themselves after a chrysler product Well, you sound like the last chrysler. I drove right now your engine a mini band That's weird. Are you just unplugging your usb every time and that goes away? No, but He doesn't realize that it happens. Yeah, he doesn't hear it in his monitor, right? No, I don't know man I'm like hardly now. Yeah, yeah, you are Crunchy crunch, right? No lie. I can't even call it Super hot roger Maybe we need to Roger should do asmr whispering or whatever that is but do it in a rusty voice like that See somebody out there likes that. I don't know who but maybe he'll be the hot sensation on twitch When when life gives you crackles make crackly asmr's give them a snap and pop that'll sing Yeah, no that old adage. Yeah. Yeah. Oh that old that old chestnut No idea what's happened you're fine now. Yeah, I don't know what's happening. It sounds like a buffer issue It's like he gets to a point and then the buffer overflows Could be what about that spyware for your camera? Is that still running? No, it's a spyware for my keystrokes. That's still running Keystroke logger Oh, uh, W. Scottish one says voice meter will crackle if you're using that It we'll see that's the thing. It wasn't for the longest time And then it started doing it and then well remember yesterday you did some things and we're like, let's see if it happens tomorrow So tomorrow don't start voice meter When we do the show do it without voice meter on I know that means you won't be able to play christopher cross in the pre-show. I understand the sacrifice that you have to make Big one It's the bigger issues when you're out. This is what I rely on to play Well, but let's let's take it one step at a time. Let's find out if if the crackle comes back tomorrow, then you know It's not a voice meter Let's eliminate that Some people Go to war some people give all their money to charity roger will sacrifice christopher cross tomorrow morning Not him himself, you're not gonna You know what? Let me do this. Why do you think christopher cross is doing right now? Like this second here is no drinking water You know what? Oh snare. I saw it the other day Somebody took a picture of him in the late 70s 80s and then a picture of him today And they said christopher cross is yeah, and it says christopher cross is the only man ever to live who looks like Both in in one part of his life and then later in his life looks like both members of tenacious d No, you have to see this. Oh my god I'm gonna find it And christopher cross was weird because he used to wear a football jersey when he used to play most of his songs so it was very Jarring how do you guys know all this stuff about christopher cross? Because I remember watching him on solid gold Oh, I found it. Oh god Solid go then got like memed all over the place So I'm gonna put it in the daily thing and you can see my screen screen share it on the hangout Oh, I could do that Yeah, do you see that? Oh No, I don't see it How do I screen share on here do you click the little green you go to the left and you click the little green button with the arrow Okay, hold on just um christopher cross was um I I need a minute. Okay. Hold on. I'm gonna put this that's not christopher cross. No, it's there There it is. So let me blow it up a little So there it is. Whoa. Whoa christopher cross the only man to look like both Okay, you're sure those are both pictures of christopher cross. Yes, I verified because that really looks like The two members of today's No, it just looks like his hair Do a regular google search of christopher cross you'll find all these photos and be like, oh my gosh, that's all right like, okay, so couple of things first of all How I mean, how was christopher cross like a pop star? No one knows number two How did christopher cross look like that? Also a pop star Yeah, no, it's because she started in the 70s. That's when you didn't need to look attractive Oh, but you still don't need to look attractive now. Like it's not about being attractive. It's about being Video killed the radio star. You couldn't be just a singer song For me the only The only stunning part of that photo is that it really looks like the two members of tenacious d Like it looks like a young picture of jack black And a current picture of the guy the guy A lot Well, and you know and christopher cross like, you know, he had that high voice Um, you know, you know what he is he's that the one they um The mental hospital patient that homer runs into that says he's michael jackson Remember he helps part write that song for lisa. Yeah Oh, that's a simpson But it's also, uh, by the way, that's uh, that was actual michael jackson uncredited in that role And he did that voice Oh Somebody call christopher cross I want to know what you're doing right now christopher cross on the phone He's on the horn. He's still tours. Hello, mr. Cross. What are you doing right now? He's sailing. He'll say um I used to uh, when I was younger. I was uh, I took gymnastics and I was in a gymnastics class and My mother who's watching the show right now because she always watches. She'll laugh um christopher cross, um Right like the wind was our warm-up song every every time really? Yeah Every time and she had like it was like a you know, you know, she put the record on the you know Turn table and you know, we we'd listen to it and like sometimes like somebody would tumble and like it would skip You know, she'd be like stop it. You know, you're ruining christopher cross And yeah, right like the wind I forgot that that was even another song he did so that's mcdonald Such a long Yeah, so to this to this day every every time I hear that song i'm like gymnastics. I need to tumble well if you need to know christopher cross is still touring and His last us state is opening for toto Monday April 16th, and then he goes to osaka japan and then tokyo and then back to us and guys we got to go to osaka Hello, osaka. Oh wait. He's also playing denmark switzerland france the nataline's germany kono Miyaki. I ever had was in osaka Hey germany has like me too Me too But hold on. What does he sing if it's just the three songs we know What's he has a lot of music. He has a new album Whatever the third one is and that's it his new one is tenacious d here. I am Taking as I am who am I It's a unique offering from christopher cross a hybrid of sorts the songs are instrumentals with courses to create the lyrical landscape This is not quite a guitar album, but leaves a listener with no question about his expertise on the subject Oh He has the songs are uh Ila Take me as away. Take me take me as I am Wait a minute. Isn't that a peter satara song and reberda down to the wire Okay, okay, you know christopher cross peter satara. Let's not get you know that very different very different I have a lot of problems with peter satara. Also, they're both very different than logic I won't say so Yes, they are just for good contrast. Okay. Can't can't get those two mixed up. Nope. Nope That's my favorite thing I've ever heard Um What was the peter satara song from I'll fight for your honor Oh, it's great his entire voice He also still Ruined chicago Kidding he he cranked out the most pro some of the um highest selling out But he took listen what he did to chicago is what starship did to themselves He took them from this like kind of bluesy cool 70s vibe to like pop Dance music 80s slow. Michael McDonald did the same thing to do be brothers. Yeah, they all did it then That was a thing you did and it was just a the trend. Yeah He's been working it. Yeah, first an airplane is the most egregious in my opinion. I hate that They are that we built this city and rock and roll is one of the worst songs ever made Uh, you mean one of the best. Oh my lord Uh-oh Now we can't let's hold on before we get deep in the hoopla here I am going to end the streams. Thank you for listening to our physical discourse Tomorrow