 We're getting welcome and we'll proceed right along. Greg Vagari will address the letter of delegation and what's the matter? I know quite a few people in the room and I know that there's a lot of you thinking that acting for a supervisor behind my name is a scary thing. I agree. It's a typo. It's a typo. Without any further ado, maybe you've been on the payette. Welcome. Here we are again and for those that haven't been here welcome. This letter of delegation is to Paul Broil's incident commander and it's to follow the situation, whoops, a wildfire situation analysis alternative bay which has changed as of your showing up here and we'll get into that a little bit. This delegation this delegation authority is to make sure that you ensure public and personal safety to follow the 10-18 situations, use lookouts, communications, that's LCS and I'm sure it'll be in your safety and IEPs. I look forward to that. Provide protection of all structures especially those to Fort Hall Hill. We also have a major power line in front of this fire okay. Cost efficiency is important but this is a full suppression action so whatever we need to do and do it cost efficiently but our goal is to get this fire out. The fire is located in critical bull shroud habitat. You'll have some resource advisors assigned to the team and they'll introduce themselves and make themselves known to you. They'll be working with you throughout the incident. I expect a high level of conduct, ethical conduct from the people that you will supervise. We'll get into a letter that we have posted in this plan. I think it's a little too soon to talk about rehab. You could read that portion in there when we get done or closer. There'll be some rehab guidance that you can follow. I mentioned working with the resource advisors. I think we have two really good resource advisors on this district and and I think they'll help you along and we'll do do the right thing. We want you to maintain a regular communication. This is going to be a very highly visible incident so the communication skills your team exhibits are going to be very important and needed. If you need more help, fire it up in the fire information and I'm sure you'll do find there. Mary Farmsworth is the district ranger at council. Any questions or changes to the what's up? We'll be going through her. Like I said, Mike McGee and Alan Dolman, we already pointed them out as your resource advisor. Carol Feider will be your incident business advisor and she'll be answering your questions on financial problems and myself acting forest fire staff. Any questions, Paul? Okay. The next thing I'd like to cover is conduct of your folks on the assignment. This is very important. All the employees, supervisors and management officials share a responsibility for ensuring that the high standards of conduct are going to be carried out throughout this incident. Mutual respect. We want mutual respect. All our interactions with people on the on the fire, the community. You know, we've had problems in the past and I'm sure you folks won't won't condone or allow any illegal drugs or vandalism such and if you do have any problems of this kind we would more than gladly help you solve any of those problems. Next on the agenda, Mary's going to talk about the WUSA. Well, I will be briefed as the wildland fire situation analysis has been exceeded and so we'll be doing another one this evening. So I won't get in in detail to the alternatives because we'll be needing to develop new ones. So bear with me on that one. What I'm going to do here as we go through the WUSA, I'll have Sam, in his phase of things, talk about the fire situation, the fire weather, the current conditions. So I won't go into that. So I'd like to spend my time talking about the objectives and I do not believe those to be changing very much when we review the WUSA and amend it or develop a new one. So I'll call your attention to a few things. The safety of the firefighters and the public is where it's at. That is our number one priority and it should remain throughout the incident. It is a big deal if you need to make sure we're following policy and doing the right thing for our folks. That includes the public and we have some challenges on this fire with Highway 95 going through. There's a tremendous number of lucky lose. We have folks that are evacuating or starting to do that so we have U-Hauls. We have a traffic diversion from Highway 95 on a gravel road and it's marginally two-way, shake-feel, not enough destiny with those sorts of things that we need to probably tackle pretty darn quick in working with the sheriff and the county folks. So that's going to be something that you're going to need to pay attention to and our objective is to make that a safe operation so it's going to take your attention. Regarding safety, the conditions as I'm sure you guys have kind of been picking up on is we're in a weather condition here that's not conducive to controlling this fire. Sam will go into the weather event here. We'll be able to provide you some weather but bottom line is this is not a good trend. We're expecting some winds here in the future. Next couple days is similar or if not in excess of what we're currently getting. So big heads up this is not nothing setting up particularly well for us in the weather department and the fuels are just pretty darn dry. Concerned about the traveling to and from the fire, you know looking who's are looking up and the firefighters are getting kind of tired so pay attention to expect. Pretty good adherence there to the two-to-one rest guidelines. We need to be adhering to that and take care of folks and certainly the driving once again. Aviation safety, we're on the edge of a type 1 show here. We have Phil, I don't see Hugh there. It's going to be helping us out and with that I think we're very solid and so I'll be kind of looking at that but it is a very large air show. We have huge power lines. They are the primary lines into McCall from Hell's Canyon. Power drove past them coming up. They're kind of low-slung and if we go into looking at a worst-case sort of expanded alternative this next go around those are going to be something we'll be dealing with but aviation certainly should know about those and other power lines. Concerned about the public safety so we're looking at the folks that are moving through just as a travel line on Highway 95 so safety is going to be a big deal. We have evacuated some folks. We have an area closure in place and we have maps and I believe the description is on the table. Rob has those descriptions of the area closure. We've taken some action, made sure folks are out of there but we will need to ensure that it's posted at the intersections to maintain the closure especially as this thing that's a little bigger. Homeowners we have a lot of structures and we have a lot of folks that are really wanting to know about their houses and that sort of thing so information-wise we'll need to really take care of those folks make sure they're briefed but also deal with the potential hazards on the line and on the fire and ensure we're taking care of those folks. Economics certainly we have structures ahead of the fire as well as behind the fire now which we had success the initial attack folks really worked hard and we were able to protect a lot of things yesterday very fortunate so we do have structures going on here up the canyon up Highway 95 and we have some wooden trestles on the Weezer River Trail. I'd like to take care of those if we can so some improvements there. Timber, we have a sold timber sale in front of the fire and if we go into an expanded situation that will be in peril and so we'll be aware of that and we'll be able to provide you with some of that information. Teeny species we mentioned the critical bull trout got some great resource advisors not just good and they'll be able to help you out so really like the ops folks to be working close to them so we can make things work for everybody and take care of the bull trout that's their biggest species. The retardant into the East Forkville and Weezer River is going to be an issue we want to be sensitive on that but at the same time being super restrictive we're going to put the fire out. So if you could work with Mike Nagini he'll help you be talking about retardant in the river source of things. We do have some sensitive plants they're past their life cycle but they're existing in the scablands and so if we're doing those are what we need to lift the blade somewhat sensitive to those plants as much as possible. We have some wildlife management indicator species some mucoshock nests I believe Alan will work with you identifying where those are see what we can do just to be mindful of them and certainly water with the fish we have some water concerns regarding fire retardant chemicals in the waterways. Social impacts encourage you highly to use local resources in town of council new meadows, Cambridge we have a lot of good things in those towns to be utilized and so anything you can do there would really help the community we're already doing that with our initial attacks on some things and been real successful in achieving some community support in the way of some work. This is going to be a high visibility fire from the standpoint of the town and pass revised with 95 main travel corridor. I would like to ensure that we maintain top-notch community chats we've already instigated a daily community town meeting there at the district office so I'd like to talk to you folks about that and ensure that we continue on with that as well as posting things from the town. So those are some objectives things to be aware of and so I believe those will carry through in the next iteration of the situation analysis. I apologize for having already exceeded it but sometimes those sorts of things happen most tidy as we go look forward to an excellent working relationship with the team. I'm yours and at your disposal and I'll be around a lot. We caught the initial spot up it was about 100 by 100 but before they got around to the complete head that it spotted out from light fuels fuel model one two graphs typed into to fuel model nine with a little bit of brush underneath ponderosa pine. Once it got into that the wind of course got the spot there and the wind continued to push it and we had air resources on it pretty darn quick. So we just weren't successful once it got into that fuel model and the low rh is you know bordering on single digit and temperatures at roughly 90 degrees so same thing happened again today we were we were doing well until about two two thirty three o'clock again the winds picked up and it spotted again across the east fork we picked up the spot this morning that spotted about a quarter mile from the initial run so there is some mid-range spotting obviously short-range spotting got us into the predicament yesterday and imagine that will continue to happen. Looking at the the weather I was on the fire at two thirty and had this briefing already for you and we got a report from you know look out on the Weiser district Sturgill Peak she called in winds at 25 just to 30 and they weren't predicted to be quite that strong today they were predicted to be 15 so I think you got predicted winds in your forecast for tomorrow for 20 you might amp that up five or ten we typically get winds in the council valley there when we get in this weather push between the low and the dry air mass coming off the four corners and you'll see that things start to move around 11 o'clock the inversion held this morning till about 10 30 11 o'clock and then you can just you know it lifted real quickly and the heating of the day and we got into those burn conditions again so that's kind of hit the nutshell there feels wise Mary mentioned the the Gaylord North Timber sale which is out in front also across east fork is is a sale that was sold in 96 but we had a float event it's called the fourth colt sale it's all right from fourth colt's first colt's I'm pretty familiar walk that hiked it there's a lot of fuel in there a lot of a lot of scents per acre pineal matt it's like walking on a mattress you know six eight inches deep for north stringers that are pretty well stressed susceptible to good fire behavior particularly in after 10 11 o'clock I'm a little bit front and short here because we've been trying to chase this thing I thought we had it it was one structure everybody is doing the best they can we found ourselves as most folks aren't in a situation just short and deep and short equipment so I'm sure you'll find yourself kind of in that mode the next day or two anyway that's all I got miss that's miss good questions how far are you from the car lines right now um the last report was there was a 40-acre spot there around first and second goals so we're still a couple miles from there a little maybe a little more up there we had a fire in 2000 I could give you a little more on the maybe the importance of that power line in 2000 we had in a compromising situation and we were working with ideal power and that uh as a main source of power from mccall peak season like it is here this time of year it would have a big effect if that would go down for any period of time which would in turn affect operations for you in some all your stuff is a lot of it's coming through my car worst-case scenario when going to the north how far that thing can run realizing nobody can dig fire but you want to answer that right um worst-case scenario it could go as far as a blue bunch good okay I'll walk through the checklist with you folks and it falls right along in your handout you've received there basically I think Sam carried the fire situation with him as far as the size now it's probably up around a thousand acres when that range things started yesterday and the cause is still under investigation this is what happened out there basically fuels are off and going I think you're on top of that the initial tack instant commander was jill brinkley he's available for any information you may need current resource in the fire kind of catching here but we've got about three and a half crews these are type ones and about 10 to 12 inches this time and on order we're trying to get your crew strength up to a dozen crews we've got six-tack one six-tack two and most of those should be coming in today we've got delivery times looking sometime this evening John get to that so that kind of matches what we've got there and I think you've got a chance to interface with the distance go from there uh trainees we do have one the trainee of I know you've brought quite a contingent with you for that we do have one from the forest it would be a strike team crew that we'd like time with if at all possible or engine so we can work through that area and on the same note yeah it would be rock dines we can make him available as far as uh any local personnel we do have some of our overhead and whatever title about that at your convenience we would like to get those three back up to their normal jobs our initial tack is getting tapped down pretty low at this time so our special control situations I think you can see what's going on out there we've got extreme burning conditions our Haines index and ten to five and six right now and the big thing's been the erratic winds the last few days so it looks like there's no particular breaking that in sight given with the really unfair weather prediction it looks like it's going to be interesting here for a little bit what's threatened again Mary touched on that and the rest of the staff that basically do have homes involved the power line like we mentioned as well as fish habitat and stuff the thing in the branches there and resource advisors as mentioned will be Mike McGee and Alan Dolan okay these folks will work directly with you any questions feel free to lean on those folks as far as the case that will be the Adams County Fairgrounds and Council I think Johnny may have to go down there today and look that over okay great and as far as maximum capacity probably upwards of 600 or more so it's pretty wide open which we get into there communications uh in the process of getting that set up and Harold have you got anything moving on that at this point well what we got right now is uh there's a bit of your command and meter put up I think was probably useful enough right now we put it right work the problem where the start is actually also become your leader later give you some coverage now to start your fire and we work to try to get some linking equipment up here because it's going to expand for you to have to build and we have some other situation with the elevates that will work with you and get that straight down to I think your telephone's are all in or dang close to it I don't know if you get to fight or 15 but they're both good and uh other than maybe tomorrow trying to work gets itself on both way there because all the cell phones come up here don't work down there and I think that's probably what I'm about now so coming right along as far as location I think most of you've seen it probably even driven past it but you're about six miles north of council on highway 95 and approximately 20 miles south of new mothers right down through that country through there as far as the fire situation around us uh today's been an interesting day and I think everything around us says pretty much very very active our north fork of the Whittaker we've had the Brenner's team on for the last week basically the northeast corner of it's very active you can probably see the platoon coming up on it we still have two crews remaining up there actually one right now so kind of backed off that and had a corner get loose on us as you walked in here you probably saw another smoke off to the southwest that's the south fork fire in the Boise and that just developed today and understand they are mobilizing a type one team on that one and similar situations are going on the San Michales and throughout really the whole area here so we're not alone it's turning into a pretty widespread situation here within of course the deep grid fire over in the booktel Idaho Falls area is still active that too is getting quite a bit of attention they too had structures involved on that one and throughout the Great Basin Utah has a couple of problem fires down there we do have the Matt group functioning at both the Great Basin level and national they're preparing levels four right now in both criteria and so any competition resources will be coordinated to those students there okay as soon as initial attack for the team we would like you to handle any new starts in high A within the parameters of your TFR that's five miles already it's a five by five and he's got that all mapped out for you should we'll see that pretty well that's something we can work with you on on that deal okay as far as the equipment available locally in question ask John's very familiar with the area here and we do have a lot of contact equipment those are water tenders that type of thing also the World Fire Department answers this type of thing we try to work out some agreements with so just time with the logistics and expand it and then give you a hand that stuff you mentioned the TFR is in place and he's got a good handle on all that line up on that deal as far as restrictions on any type of equipment they're asking for no user those are used excuse me in the riparian areas density that country no blight down walking across scaps basically any those are used this type of thing work it directly with your resource advisors coordinate with them and they'll help you get lined out on that also we'd like you to watch the retardant use the name of watersheds that be the leisure river as well as the drainage is there at the bench creek and the fourth bilbs this type of thing and one of your supplemental handouts here does deal with the use of retardant forms in their areas so it's in a good direction on that area okay as far as ground traffic as far as coordinating out we'll tie back through Adams County Sheriff for that support highway traffic or traffic control is needed no matter and I think I mentioned your incident business advisor will be Carol Fyder here and Patsy I think she'll be helping out in that little bit okay so we'll be working very closely with you liaison some other agencies currently we're slowly involved it doesn't involve private land where it started but it were the one agency involved at this time okay any co-op agreements we do have co-op agreements on the helicopter spots we're using in two or three places like that agreement has been signed with the fairgrounds down there and as far as that like say the fire did start on the private ground and I believe everything else is covered and those are available to you John if you need them the socio-political implications uh really the biggest thing was the loss of the you know structure threats down there to the homes the power line logging fish aquatics and stuff of things so the values are there okay as far as fire information officer interface word heart wig is the forest information officer and here in your handout here's his information also later in the packet is a sheet kind of addressing information set up here that will probably be being beefed up here as we get more active around the area any restrictions as far as dealing with the media flying we just request you work through forest dispatch here we do utilize the flight authorization forms and set those up for you and just log in on that through the media here as far as other items uh basically we do hold a daily briefing in this facility here daily at four o'clock sixteen hundred hours we'd like to request that either follow yourself or one of your command staff attend that and basically it's the one where we can't touch base with all the different logistics functions to support people kind of coordinate what's going on and it does involve we've got multiple instance we can kind of set us up beside and work out what's going on it works well okay as far as the role of payout logistics dean martins over here and it's down here it didn't seem oh Dan's done it they kind of coordinate that and also your plan's chief is our logistics is very familiar with it he helps us out considerably but we do have a very large organization that travels a lot of transportation through the warehouse all the cost no work so i think you'll find it very helpful to you okay as noted in your delegation transition time will be tomorrow morning at over six hundred hours and as far as key contacts again i won't go through verbatim the rest of this package you've got lists back here that do have the key contacts lists first phone numbers radio frequencies for the forest there's a copy of the hotline protein that we will use during the closeout also the instant team evaluation and that's the same tech sheet that's in your red book medevac plan we do have a couple concerns here gary you might want to address that from the force dispatch yeah the only thing we request on any medivacs fire that any aerial medivacs can dispatch gets involved in that notified we've had trouble before the medical unit are doing something and we get wind of something and they're both losing it the medical unit could just contact us on any aerial medivacs and also there's one type of in the plan there the council does not have a hospital anymore they have a medical clinic in there but if you want to gary i also have updated stuff in the financial upvotes on for medical stuff not for your fly med medivacs just okay not attempt to overstep your medically in but please coordinate that through dispatch okay as far as the information officer briefing there is appendix here they address that appendix B there's also a little statement on our recycling capabilities again i won't go through these but they're there for your reading and then attached is we got separate documents here i guess i can give these to you but basically their appendices basically D E F and H and what they do address is there in your handout it's basically suppression rehab guidelines the suppression guidelines related to patient critical habitat they'll deliver the foam and return and then the spill prevention and conservation plan and there's we didn't make copies for each packet and then just save paper but there's 15 copies there you can place where they're needed most so that's kind of the key items on our checklist any questions i can answer at this time okay i'll turn it over to Greg didn't avoid but i just welcome new commissioners and done emergency management i apologize for that i'm glad to have you here i'm sure you can see this this hall fire is is something else and i have all the faith in the world that you folks will manage the incident appropriately as professionals paul when we get done we can go inside this delegation the only thing i i hesitate to keep bringing up safety and the only safety message i really want to leave you with is doing the job the right way is safety at its best okay and you know how to do that and please watch yourselves watch each other uh if you see somebody who's who's fading and not doing the job the right way bring it through attention okay that's about all i have are there any questions notice that we're diverting traffic off the highway 95 right now right one to a county road right how's the county every good to take care of that road that's just uh carol yeah we're talking about how we're going to get her doing that to your finance chief and i just she brought it up okay they're talking about very good did i have that gentleman's name uh don't work don't right there's presently one county water truck on their left now but he's having trouble keeping up we're gonna have to safely get another truck on there well we i'm sure we have ordered and that truck's doing what water roads are splint watering the watering the road the the going through the window okay the bypass but it's still real dusty can't keep up under policy and i sure understand the policy but i'm a little concerned about the corridor and a power line by using uh caps up there i just want to make it the philosophy should be to be able to get up there and build big firebreak just truth in the matter is that's a corridor in itself it's already been mitigated to idle power it's been opened up it's been utilized i'm concerned very much concerned that the fire reaches that that power line is going to cause some economic disasters in this whole area and if that's you know that's a big base 138 line and you're not going to put it back together and despite it's going to take some time to do that so i'm real concerned that the policy is policy but i would hope that at some point in time common sense will drive where this needs to go let me let me answer it like this um the fire behavior we're experiencing if we took you put four five or six blade wide and open that line up would still not mitigate the fact it would come across we have done we have spent an enormous amount of money and air support to stop this fire where it is and once it gets up and running through that timber with the slope the communities demand uh if i were to tell you we can do eight or ten and knock every piece of standard timber when it's spotting a quarter to a half mile away um we're concerned too we're very concerned and we know what you're talking about um we've been there before and we know what the fire behavior is going to do we'll do everything we possibly can to stop the fire our desire is the same as yours it would just be it would just be too overwhelming a task to take and try to devoid the the fuels with cats or even cutting them and still end up with the same situation given one springer timber going up to the right and we're not taking it likely we're not taking it we're putting a lot after this fire there's one thing else that Mike helps me out with is the gradient all the way up here uh they've ordered four dozers i think they're putting two on the right and that was several hours ago so those are going to be in camp yeah we will try to we'll try to get around but if you're if you're thinking it's you got in front of it and several questions on yet it probably is in here but i didn't see it right off the vehicle about press releases handling information do you want that to be handled boy you're here releaseers here i need to hook up with your information officer he's driving up here right now jeff gill house okay so we'll tighten it we've already sent release out and a lot of community outreach already today okay so we've got a good plan of place for that so we'll just keep that in place then and the releases will come from from here rather than the insta well it'll be based out of uh council range okay and that way they can do community outreach okay but i'll work with your information officer now any other questions uh reporting in you want a daily report in in the morning contact the university or to of course i'll be seeing mary i'm sure and mail out mary you'll see your dad's you're here right yeah go to the other way around either way go through here okay she'll be you'll be at every every bridge yeah we're going to talk about that when we break yeah we'll go to iba about the county commissioner so obviously we'll be all here in a little bit trainees you've only authenticated one at this time you've got more we're more than happy to take it i probably everybody's out fighting fire so it's going to hard to come up with a training if we do we'll let you know fall just okay okay section chiefs anything uh specifically the one covered the tune you didn't put on i'll be working with carol really starting to tell us there's no sense anybody else do you guys have a contact arrival power or a way we can get in touch with a local person i'm sure there is down in council okay we'll need that well we'll need that and then uh we need resources information too so we can walk in on accurate information on that so these new gentlemen are just waiting with baited breath why you don't have the resources that we ordered well the combination of what's here and everything means resources on fire and what's been okay i'm sorry yeah if uh we'll get you there's type 3 ic out there should have some logs filled up to some two levels and what's uh what's on the part one question is talking to karen earlier and i understand gis support is available yes correct and the ever popular copy is it down there the diagrams yet aren't you okay are we able to get into the ranger district use your coffee tonight yeah you should have your coffee around between eight and ten o'clock tonight because when you should have your copies and fax machines we can work at the earlier more welcome to anything we can provide you out of district doctor thank you you're welcome uh this power line issue concerns me greatly if it starts running of that power line i think we need to have a contingency plan in place particularly for my standpoint how much effort you want to put in putting aircraft around the power lines and uh i think that's probably a pretty high priority for both the team ball and also for the good point we love the folks here too so okay get that going yep that would be good with some trigger points we need trigger points and that's what conversation about no power we need to see what needs to be done in relative to that good good anybody else just before our fight the fire departments as those contacts get away we just need to make sure that they're dialed in with our group as far as the contacts and our heuristics on the briefing and that stuff because sometimes they get dropped through the fraction right transfer and information right i'm sure when you get down is going down tonight if you can type what type your ices get those contacts and and bring them in okay anybody else i have a phone list here i'll just leave them on the table up there and anybody that would like one they have the expanded discharge and other good numbers uh we'd like to add your icp numbers to this list so soon as you get those if you let us know and then any changes or corrections to the list you can just call our front desk here and we'll we'll put out a new list every day and we'll be handed out at the 1600 briefing i'll also have copies of the resource orders for the resource unit leader and john and i'll just give them to you after that i mean thank you one more thing that's appropriate to this type of briefing and it's on finance for aircraft uh we have uh approximately until i get with gary i think 16 helicopters assigned and they are assigned to hall subject to a telecom we had with bob dot or mike dudley and bob q and but i want to assure both iba and our finance chief that those will also be used on other fires and that the aviation unit will split out everything to fires down to the tenth of a flight hour and that is to cover us very very well in any uh post fire review by finance okay i just wanted to mention that i have a cost unit leader in aviation so all finance folks are smiling there i know i scream bar spot well i made a commemorial smile if you see anyone else do we have a bunch of apps to the apps the handouts of these folks maybe district maps same i can set job available for the is where we have to look at the district okay uh thank you that's an excellent briefing you got most of the questions answered and i know that uh what we need to do now is to break out with our counterparts for the next old half hour so we'll make it 1930 we'll reconvene with the team here to do the wrap final wrap up and get our plans for the for the next operational period in place uh so at this point let's just go ahead and break up with the counterparts be back here in about half an hour uh i know the lands water visit with gis folks for instance uh fire behavior with with uh dude probably and so on thank you very much