 Good morning. How are you? You know He's finally succumbed to COVID but he's over the worst of it. It wasn't too bad, right a lash So we're doing the We're doing the black and white theme this I'm wearing my new October 5th 2023 t-shirt that arrived just in time for our wiki tree day I showed it off in a couple of those videos. So thank you for all who came up My name is bright Clark But I'm with me is a lash and this is ask a lash anything and we postpone things one week partly because a lash was vacationing Vacationing with some bugs apparently And also it was wiki tree day and lead up to wiki tree symposium So it was a good week to delay things. So here we are and A lash we have some questions to start the day Yeah, so those of you welcome to everyone who's here live and joining us live and those who are watching this after the fact Welcome to you as well Those who are live, please put a question in the chat if you have anything for us Unless you'll be happy to answer those and if you're watching after the fact You can always add a question to the to the video underneath or to the G to G post Often we go back to the previous month's G to G post if people ask questions after we've already done the live cast So either of those are great places to ask questions for a lash so Aless, do you want to mean and and start off? Which one do you? Should we go through just in the order which they showed up? Yeah, good. Okay The first question was from the ONS OPS, which I believe are the one-name studies one-place studies research party So that was one of the cool things about The wiki tree day in this this weekend They actually had a number of different research parties like two-hour blocks where people got together on zoom and just did some some research and helped each other and I think Sandy Paddock for one had two brick walls broken down for her during that so And other people had brick walls broken else others excited But anyways from one of those research parties the question came how many magic work magic words Can be searched on at one at a time. So how many magic words bring together? I guess I think the first limit would you would hit is the request size Inter of the URL so that means 20 megabytes. Oh Oh Just the length of the query the length of the query so you're really not gonna run out of magic words You're not gonna run out of space. No, no, I didn't built in any limits So you can strain them all on it should work. But if you have any problems, you can point it out to me That's right. Yeah, I would think the the limitation is not so much on the number of magic words But if you every magic word adds more conditions, you're limiting your Size till you get to a point where you might rule out all possible answers Yes, but it works faster and faster than okay, well, that's good Because it's less data to query Okay, well, um I wonder what want to want to pull up wiki tree plus and just do an example of one say four or five magic words in a row Just to prove to the people that you know, there's not really a limit three. I mean you were doing relatively long queries with No when you used that for the 10 Profiles of For featured profiles, right? I don't know we can Go well unsourced is one of the is is a magic word, right here. Yes this unsourced and Let's see what we can do Public okay 18th century good. Yeah Then what else can we use we can use mail? Okay, we can use oh I since the last one I did this. Oh, I saw that the other day That is very exciting people. Did you see what he did? You can extend the text box So you can make it nice and large and you don't have to scroll over back and forth that is It's like a small thing, but it's such a huge thing in terms of usability. So thank you for doing that And then we can put our and repeat the query With for instance 19th century Okay, so now it's Relatively long Huh, oh, yeah 227 there we go Actually for the first query we got zero There is no public Profiles in 18th century. Oh Alright public is is green Public is green as opposed to the like yes, right, right. They're they're wide open. Yes There we go. That makes sense. Oh Okay, usually if you are writing complex queries it pays to Check at the end the search lock When I Breakdown where I break down the search into our console this for instance is one and the other Condition and then I perform our operation on them. So it's 12,000 12,000 and 200 and here's a total of Using the our condition and look at the night hit rounds it to a nice round No, no one divided by three, right? Yeah. Yeah Very nice All right, cool some more math for my math workshop Okay, so there you go lots of there really is no limits No practical limit because you're not gonna write so many words that a quote beyond the The number of characters allowed in the text box. So that's good news Then we have the next comment is actually just a thank you. Thank you. Thank you for restructuring the batch Categorization on wiki tree plus love that it's at the top and doesn't open a new page Okay, this is the Where is it? The batch categorization. Yep. Oh Here. This is the victory browser extension. Oh Oh, the plus is part of the wiki tree domain It also work wiki tree browser extension also works on wiki tree plus So we all we have one or two things already available here for instance You can I Will show so one is batch categorize and the other is Let me Duplicate the page. Oh Go to Suggest. Oh, I actually it should work here. No here Yep, so we have space page previews So if you are searching for pages I I'm sure we will find a few mm-hmm. Yeah, there'll be a few cemeteries And now when you hover over the cemetery it should Play it should oh Hmm Maybe it's too long. This is too long page because it's 80,000 matches. I think it To process actually everything now as you're saying those are those are categories and not space pages It doesn't matter. It works on project pages. Oh, there is now on help pages Wow And also space pages Look at that. It should also work on categories, I think and the templates Yeah, I think it works on all pages Look at that. That's very neat. Okay, these two are not and On categories it also works. It doesn't display the Items in but you see the text of a category That was just there was 80,000 results and It takes minutes for right here to with three browser extension to actually Redesign the page, right? That makes sense. Yes But the other thing that is interesting is batch categorized. This is Ian and Florian wrote this so Here you when you check it's now on all search results search pages search results And you can select. Okay. I want this this and this get the district profiles Categorized to I don't know So you can add categories to them directly Same it same it directly directly, okay You can select here the category, okay And then you press the button cat a lot cat a lot And it will open three new pages with Edit pages of these three profiles where the category is edit Okay But you're in edit mode. So you still have yeah, you have to then save and You have to save them the profiles But it does it does write the category and and even gives you the description to the explanation Yeah, that's usually what we try to do because For those automated processes, it's important that you know what was done. Yes, even if you were just watching the locks change locks Wow, okay. Yeah, mind-blown. This is very exciting. Wow that is That's amazing. I did not realize that that had been I didn't realize that the wikichu browser extension could extend to wikichu Plus at all. Yeah, it has it had some difficulties, but During the October face. I did fix those. So now it is new. Yeah That's great So this I Did discuss it with Florian? I think it will only stay be available on profile search because this is the place where it's Usable I don't see someone categorizing space pages or something like that based on search results The other thing where it might be Useful is On cemeteries, so oh, yes, that is For adding people into the cemetery category. Yeah, but not all over the place, but Where can I Search for a cemetery Space pages Here Most likely we will put it on this page Okay, not a good example because It doesn't let's go to some other Cemetery Mm-hmm. I put here some okay, so I might be good on one. Okay, so I was gonna give you It has 300 profiles in it. So it's middle-sized Or on button So here when you have victory plus report That compares the data to find the grave right also finds Okay, this one is Actually complicated because it has several cemeteries connected to it Um Okay, we should choose another one. Well, I put I put in the chat the my local cemetery where my Parents and grandparents are buried. I don't know if that's not easy for me On private probably the private chat. Yeah Is that gonna help let's just see it will I The first one probably not New South Wales. No, it should be Thanks, oh That's funny. I Know it's in what did you write wrong? French it's not a cemetery. I Know it isn't I I type in the text search or am I I type I just type that text in the I put the word cemetery afterwards Is it it would be also saying It's in Canada, right? It's in Canada. Yeah, Maritownship or Romero township. It's Ontario I'm sure there is a Though I know there's some some of my relatives. I have not actually added to is this one it That's the one up to Grove. Yep That's the one Is that gonna give you what you need most likely See Okay, this one is also not matched with find the grave. Oh It there is an entry in find a grave. Oh, but it's not it's not much. Yeah, it's not matched completely and I Though the Clark there, I bet you those Clarks are my Clarks are those ones that are in or the ones that are not in So in this category Maybe the idea of this category is wrong Oh, that is most likely the reason So we have this is the find the grave. Okay ID That's it and that's the church. That's the church It's the correct one why it is red We're taking a bit of a detour here through my local cemetery I think I Can look into it later. Okay, but most likely it's something wrong with With it, maybe there are two or something like that But now, okay, this this profiles here are already category. So This is this report has two parts. This is the Cemetery for the wicketry category part and we have So in this category, these profiles are all on this cemetery And we have also these two pro profiles without Find the grave Memorial defined Founts actually and these two are even without find the grave link or definition to Okay To find the grave, which is nothing wrong, but I don't know it is See and here on the lower part are all profiles on wicketry that have that have this cemetery Listed as being on Profiles so on the profile if you have link to find the grave memorial There is also information for the cemetery and all these pro all these profiles do have This cemetery defined this in the lower part. These are already in the Category and this one are not So those the ones those would be categorized to this category. So we would have all of them that are buried here and Here is another place when we will most likely add the Catalog function Okay, so we will quickly be able to categorize these profiles to this category. Nice. I recognize almost all of those names Yeah, okay, I will look later why this is a rat. Yeah, okay some reason but Mm-hmm. Let's continue Okay, well, that was a nice little diversion. Thank you Interesting. Yeah, so that that will be very cool. So that part isn't added yet Inside the cemetery report, but it's something you're thinking of adding right? Yeah. Yeah Good. Okay. Oh, actually it will be the part of extension, but yeah the extension. Yes Here it will support it right So now we have the wow, it's like peanut butter and chocolate all over again We've got wiki tree plus all that goodness and the wiki tree browser extension all that goodness mixed together It just makes another goodness that will probably come soon is the sort on the Challenge stats Nice Oh It's already written on wiki tree. You can sort all tables and I just need to enable it for wiki tree plus and check if everything works and you will be able to sort The normalized numbers for you Nice nice and then the also what's that the one table the user table the Where it only currently it only shows the user's alphabetically Mm-hmm With the cc7. Yeah, yeah Being able to see, you know, who's improved their cc7 most would be kind of a cool nice sort Oh, looking forward to that wait, but we have to wait till January now for our next source of fun or connect upon Well, no, it's actually it will be yeah, okay Yeah, I mean if we if to use it in a challenge though you with this challenge is going on all the time, aren't there? Yeah, they are so We can yeah, so we don't have to wait quite that long. Anyways, very cool Um, moving on. Okay. We're on to our third 20 minutes in and we're finally under our third request Okay, this wasn't really a question. So we were free to talk about it This is why though on wiki tree day, they made sure that all of my slots were limited to an hour And I had to stop within the hour Anyways, here we are um M. Cole asks is there a way to get a project's top 25 profiles by views? In that project, I mean project managed No No, okay. Well, that's just that's a really sure although you can get some help with that so Okay, you could use a project managed to get All profiles managed by projects and so One of the interesting things would be to use Well, I would add a five star Right. We had the stars sort size because at least five stars That limits the results to Profiles with a lot of views, right Um, so Here would be and also also I wouldn't do it for all pro projects at once. So I would choose for instance wiki 311 and five stars and I would get all All profiles managed by this project that I don't know Um, and now okay. It's still a lot of results here. These are huge projects Yeah, I was going to say what about some are really huge. So there it's not As good but one in this list now is are all the are all the top 25 I did check it doesn't this number doesn't export to Um excel that will be one possibility to edit right port and you could sort it then there But Don't bug me now brother Hahaha But this is not really that useful info to edit to all excel exports Right. Um, so if they need This for some special report they could ask me and I would prepare a special export for them. Okay. Yeah If the if the query I wonder if if you If the query had the had one of the stars Uh keywords in it like if this query had the query string had five stars in it Could you add that number to the export or do the x you don't you don't customize the exports? Well, I I do add some things to the exports that Um Are asked for and I find useful for most of the for many people But not such explicit number of views. Yeah Right and is that total views or just oh it's total views. Uh, this is total views Actually, this is a bit more complex. This is totally views reported by uh, by uh, Vicky tree Vicky tree has its own counter How many times the page is served so right but here it doesn't this is just how many times it was created and served so if one person is Opening the same page each day this number grows right right. It can be also some mishaps for instance one Um, you once a user dropped his headphones on f5 And it refreshed the profile for a whole night Until he was blocked But it grow it increased the number to a hundred thousand I think So that's why we have a failsafe and this is uh Uh Views in last year Uh reported by google Mm-hmm analytics And this is by different users Mm-hmm So now to not two thousand nine hundred different people who are visiting this page last year Oh, okay Interesting, okay Good Okay, so well that's That is the answer that we have so far So but if you are part of a project you manage a project and you do need this Then talk to alash and he'll give you No, now there was a question. Uh, so robert Is new is new and asked how do I get into this plus area of wiki tree? So I did put the link The easiest way to get in is just to type plus dot wiki tree dot com And that'll get you there, but if you look on If you look on alash's screen the logo for wiki tree plus If you're on any page inside wiki tree and you see that wiki tree plus logo with the the plus in the red circle That will take you there automatically Like that one. Yes So there's lots of pages that you'll end up on wiki tree and you'll see of that little logo And if you click on that it'll open up wiki tree plus But the fastest way is just to just type start typing plus dot wiki tree dot com For me, I find that the fastest now So there is that I Yeah, oh azure was giving us another category or another cemetery before I gave you mine Um, okay, so that's there's the Okay, so Alan was Oh, yeah, he has two questions So the first one is is there somewhere a time stamp for the data dump? If not, can you provide one? Uh, it is on every Page created I think so here at the bottom you can see Uh date of the report is Here is the when the request the query was created in Slovenian time Uh and here is date of data Which is 5th november 5th 2023 Right, so even if you save the page you can later see when it was created Also on On all the report I think on all the pages This information is added. So if you go to unsourced lists that are prepared in advance In advance There it is. Uh, no, this is when it was created. Oh Yeah, here it is Or maybe or it may be I have to go to the original page Is allen is allen in the chat I don't see him yet. Uh, no here. It's not Azure on on these reports Reports it is not visible because the date is already in the name So, uh, here you have Uh, the 2023 1105 Oh, okay. Um, yeah, because these are prepared quickly and It's uh, the url changes each week. So, okay, there is no need to actually write the Date, okay. So allen allen isn't the chat now. So the answer is either it's on the report at the bottom Or it's in the name up in the url there is also One url that has the information when data are available, but it's in json Format so that's used by extension to check the the Freshness of data They need to okay. So allen since you're in the chat Um, is there any report that you're thinking of that doesn't have you can't find the data either at the bottom or at the top in the url and if you find one Put the link in the chat for us to investigate Okay, do you hear finnigan whining in the background? He's I think he sees his Cousin dog and he wants to go out and play but I'm not going to let him because he'll run off to the farm and Then that won't be good So where isn't on that page so if you're at a depth so So there's two things if the report has the name in the url Then it's not written on the page It's written up in the url and the link that you click on so at the very top and because this is the way We can zoom in but it only zooms in the page. It doesn't zoom in the url. So you can't really see but up there in the url is the date I can show it again Here it's on a suggestion report. It's here Okay, here is also um the date of the latest report. Yeah, so And Then when you are looking the final page, um, it is here as part of it's in the url It's the date So 2023 1105. Okay, so it was on sunday. Okay, so he's asking us to look at this one specifically Which one I don't category england unsourced profiles Unsourced profiles For england Okay, and see at the bottom there The bottom of that. No, this is the time of the report creation Yes, it's not the right one. Oh, it's not the right one But here when you go to when you are reviewing the page here, it is the date ah Okay, you see that alan hope so In your year for you For digit here to use digit math and to digit date Right Okay Yeah, it's hard to see right now Yeah, and if he's only got one screen then he's he's using that one screen to watch us and he it's hard to Okay, so then he has a his second question is he would like a listing of profiles for persons born in cheshire england During the 1820s so anywhere from 1820 through to 1829 He's always started a search simple Do you see what he was almost right he was almost right Oh, is it the capital b? Should it be a small b? No, no okay, he didn't through it the the instructions completely but Wow, we're all about guilty of that sometimes It's also hard to understand everything So, um this part was correct. Um Hmm For country and region For dates, it's not okay because this form means If you go beyond the table here are explained the This Birth dates and this means this will return only the private In 1950s so close, but Yeah, that one little worry private profiles. Uh, yeah, no, but the idea was close enough. So Okay, now if the other suggestion was to use it like to use it like this birth 1820 But that's that does a single year, right? Yes the solution to the problem is to exclude birth and Use the s at the end this will return all profiles that were alive in 1820s, okay And we can then exclude All that were alive in 2010 Okay, now we will get all that were born in 1820s There we go Alive in the 20s, but not alive in the 10s. Yeah um Because you can't walk in the 1800s to the 1820s We can also um Add kind of condition to reach the Oh not net. It's not sorry. Oh not Net oh, that's interesting Okay, so oh, okay many profiles wonder what net was doing Well, it was probably finding something Uh dot net in the main url name. Oh really? Oh my goodness. Wow Well, if you're not specific if you don't use the field qualifiers then it can be often something Of anything. Yeah Um, you could also add for instance 1820s and 1830s Uh that would I mean Now this would return mostly the ones that reached adulthood Oh, so this means we have to be alive in the 20s and in the 30s. Okay. It could be still one year old, but Yeah up to 19 Right Oh, that's neat By putting them together Okay You can really close out. I'm really really close You can even continue with this on 40s and 50s To find all that were really old for instance. Yes We live to a nice age 70s so now we will have yeah, let's see how From Cheshire Cheshire can't be that large. I'm sure this will be a smaller number Still over 500 though Really? Oh, that's impressive 1900 All together 1901. Yeah These are 70 years or more Okay, so these decades are power I do have some very powerful options. Yes I didn't realize that you could actually put multiple Decades in that one date. Thanks. Well, this this forum Defines when if he was alive in that decade. Yeah, that's right. And why not stack them together? Well, it's much more. It's much nicer than just putting a bunch of oars Or ands, I guess it would be in this case. Yeah Well, okay, you could just cheat and say like this Oh, yeah That's true. That's true. That would be much. They should give the same result. It should give the same result. Yes Yes, unless they take a time machine and leave the 20 Company the 80s. Yes So a few doctor who companions might qualify but not many And how would you put that in your profile? How would you put that in your wiki tree profile? I traveled with the doctor and was gone for 50 years I don't think so Um, okay, so that's the last question there, but trisha has asked us a new one Or maybe it's a follow-up for our from our st. Colin kill's A venture. I don't know if this is off topic, but why am I getting read on this union cemetery of deland, florida report Well, you were also getting correct on your and I was getting read in the st. Colin kills as well. So Uh, I don't know if you want to investigate that and If if if there's a simple ant if we can find it right away, then we'll answer it If not, then we might have to get back to you because your initial thought was Aless that the the find a grave id number was Wrong or different? No, all are wrong. I mean It seems that something was wrong with the reports Uh, okay, so they're all doing that now Yep Okay, I do import cemetery Category data each day and today there there were some problems. Oh, okay Uh-huh. No Okay So there is a slow median Explanation for this which none of us have figured out what that could be but that's okay Like this is much more understandable. Oh, there we go application made attempt. There we go. There he is You can even check the cost Okay This is this is temporary problem. I will I have it seems I have to restart the import of categories Something was wrong and I didn't really investigate before Well, it kind of works It does sell separate those who are in and those And it's very cool It's very cool that it as long as it sees that find a grave in the source citation It knows that it should be connected to a cemetery category. That's yeah all these profiles I mean it is possible that it's not really buried there in case that it's just a synopath or memorial, but right, um Usually it is Yeah, so all this could probably be in a category Oh grow cemetery Uh So And then you get all those options to see your relatives in the local cemetery. Yeah Yeah, that's right Well, there was a couple of those names that popped up when you were showing my local cemetery who um, I recognized but I had known because I was I thought they were just in-laws of one of my cousins, you know, so I didn't think they were related But when I clicked on them At one point this was a couple getting ready for the july connect on it. I think I clicked on them and realized Oh, they actually are connected Back a few more generations. They actually married a clerk at one point. So There was a I didn't even realize Yeah, that's okay He's on local cemetery. So Yeah, there must be some connection somewhere. Oh, yes lamb. Yeah, there are In the future Okay, then, uh So is this uh As you're saying that the report for the fairmont cemetery is showing other cemeteries in addition to fairmont Is this all if there are multiple then it's probably something wrong Which one? How did she put it in the chair probably Oh, and it's the fairmont cemetery in raton new mexico Um I don't know how to spell all of that. Okay. Well, let me I'll I'll type it Okay, I know Fairmont cemetery Copy copy copy We don't have copy here No, no, that's you know, I I put it in the I put it in the private chat. Oh, there she put the list there I clicked that I don't know if an am is fine or if you use need to spell out new mexico Yeah, there's only the one Raton seems like a pretty unique. Well, actually that's a word for rat, isn't it? Raton That's not a very nice name if that's if I'm If I'm translating it properly it must mean something else Okay, so here we go. Oh, I am right. So Yeah, this is a huge cemetery with really a lot of profiles So this one has both uh errors in both directions, so Yes, um So in this in Fairmont Cemetery Raton, Mexico, there is this profile Here that Is in this category But find the grave says that he's buried on this Center thing. Oh, okay So this is something to look into most likely one of the sites is wrong But it's not for me to decide but Maybe someone can you have here it links to both to a profile and to a Memorial So they do open here Santa Fe National Cemetery, okay It can also be a mistaken identity that also often happens, so you should check Okay, this is wife of Clarence parents siblings, okay from relatives Clarence said we're in in just in the text not So Clarence As you're saying that it was further down that was the problem Though I mean what you're showing is good for people to know about Those discrepancies Um, well, I don't know. This would really need to be looked at. Yeah, you need to look at that But I think as you said that there it's further down in that cemetery report page That uh, uh, yeah, okay. That's this is one kind of mistake. Yes. That's one kind of thing and that's important I realize so you can also One of the things that most likely need to be correctly corrected. Although a person can't have two memorials on find the grave Although there is a protocol to especially mark that It can be duplicating memorial and it says so and then it's excluded from reports, but mostly it isn't right And then okay further down Is she said about two-thirds Yeah So here at the bottom are, um, all other reports, um So I think the most problematic is this When you have like this Connecticut, that's a far distance from new mexico So this memorial This memorial, uh, we said this profile is in these two categories on victory But it is on this memorial on find the grave, but uh on wiki 3 it's categorized in these two cemetery Categories so here something is wrong. I don't know what but something I think Also this one that is red this small cemetery So this uh, this, uh, memorial Let's close this too. So this private burial He's here listed as Being buried in Mesa infra cemetery america france Yeah, in france. There is a memorial for him Um, that's on the cemetery But he's showing up in tennessee as well. Yes, but it is also but on wiki 3 it's categorized in this cemetery So if you go to his profile, uh Uh He's also showing up here. Um, so here is a category This my cemetery is mitzvill tenancy. Maybe he has a Headstone there Right, um, maybe it was even buried there, but it has only a memorial in europe Who knows? I mean, I don't know but If someone looks into it, it can be probably most likely found that find out Yes, what is the case? So these are the cases where, um The red If it's one, it's a red one if it's multiple categories They are yellow or it can be One red and one yellow Three yellows and one red one red is actually the right one And the yellow ones are star plus Right. Yeah, and if you're using the find a grave template, there's a way to indicate Which one is the actual burial? Yeah, you can actually you can actually Link to two memorials from uh from a profile To to find the grave memorials and then by using uh same as equals no or yes You can explicitly define which one to use for categorization and Right and for data check Right. Yeah, so that's that's the solution There okay Good I'm gonna refresh the page in case anyone added a ggg question after the fact I don't see No, don't there's no new questions on the ggg page anyone Live with us who has any further questions If you do think of some add them, uh, but now I'm guessing Uh, now you've been very busy during hectober fest Um, and you showed us some of the stuff that you did. Is there other stuff on wiki tree plus that You've added over the last month or so? um No, I think that's it. I was working on some other stuff, but I didn't finish it because it was quite a busy month right so probably Some it's sometime in the future right but I did write the first up Yes, you did you want to show that off? So I can show it a bit Okay, that's good And you know what I thought it when I was looking for the stats for my wiki wiki tree stats, um Round up. I I saw I found a different app that you should write too Which is already written for you. You just have to port it over Which I'll let I'll let you show off what you've done first before I tell you what I Okay, they were on the page. Okay. This is a nice fan chart that I think you're right Uh, well you've got you've got a solid to five generations. That's great Yes, yeah now with cherv books available. I think I have an um Quite a few six ones. So nice Yep, it's so how far back does that go is that 1600? Oh, yeah, this is uh, no, it's the 1700 I think 1800 still, right? Okay, this one our 1700 And how early do the church books go? Uh They go to 1700 1600 but those are not really readable. Oh You had messy priests back then too. No, they didn't use forums. So they were just writing Text in latin. So I really don't understand it A lot can be tricky. Uh, I guess it was in latin. I'm not even sure Well, you know what I found in the going through some italian records the latin Not only is the handwriting difficult, but they'll they actually use shortcuts in latin which made it Figure it out. Like if they use full latin words, at least we'd have half a chance But who knows anyway, okay wiki tree maps wiki tree plus maps Okay, let's see So we will show off your maps, right? Yeah, okay. Yes Mine move around a little bit more than yours There you go 007 Let's reduce the zoom a bit Look at that. Yes So you can uh, write any profiles here and you can see map the ancestors of that person descendants of that person You don't have any well, they're all prior. They're all public or not private. Yeah, they're You can't see them, but I can see them, but No, I don't think no, you can't see them. Oh, no, not on wiki tree plus. No, this is again wiki tree plus is working completely on database dumps. So only public data is available Yeah, so even I would I was I was thinking of if there was a way to actually Get your profiles We are the api Oh, yeah while you are logged in And I could do that. I could also transfer that data to my server But then I have to store it into a layers or a table Right something like sql table and that's already duplicating private data That is not allowed by wiki tree rules, right? Yeah So I don't think I'm allowed to do that Yeah That's so I'm not maybe someday in the future That this will be available Because I have a agreement with wiki tree for this but Maybe on my servers it could be but For now, I won't even go in that direction. That's okay. Well, I mean especially Your focus is mostly ancestors anyways I think and as long as we know what those restrictions are up front. I think people are fine using Yep, so nuclear family is also very poor for you. You have Yes My parents and grandparents have are deceased so they'll show up but And you can also check your managed profiles. Okay, that'll be a lot It will show all the profiles that you manage You will often see some profiles go to zero zero zero degrees longitude and zero latitude Those are the ones with ambiguous locations. Yes, I have to fix those. I really do have to buy out Some of those showed up before and I didn't fix them. Yeah, so I'm really gonna I fixed a few on mine each week Now each time that I look at it. Oh, I can correct this one now One. Yeah, that's right. So at least the country is recognized. Yeah Because and just like Many of the other apps if you click on like if you click on Madeline Mahua If you click on her name, it'll open up her profile directly. So yeah, here you can Show on wiki tree. Yeah, it's in new tap So while while she's staring you in the face in the middle of the Atlantic ocean you can fix it Ah Here also from the on the right side Side is the data for what you clicked on And here you can then continue from this person and show uh ancestors of that person or descendants or nuclear family So if you want to further explore from your grandfather on Yes, and so on It's nice. Um, so it's then it will just regenerate ID So now we are looking of descendants of Oh, look at that. That's a really interesting pattern right there Wow, so the land in newfoundland That's Interesting. I wonder Well, actually it's not that Uh, you can't really say by looking at this picture because Um, you would have to so here in layers. There are a lot of options So you would actually have to go by generation So they were This is third four Oh six seven eight nine so In each generation So you can hear view them generation by generation Okay, so this is the eight eighth generation Interesting, I'm looking at descendants. So Oh Right, right, right In 68 1890 And then uh, obviously It gets very narrow very quick. Yeah, so in generation six Uh, that's interesting. Yeah, so I can I know that one one place on the triangle there the the left most point That's in to miskeming which is in northern on it's basically on the border between Ontario and cobec in northern Ontario That's where my both of my Yeah, yeah Yep, it's miskeming. There we go Yeah Not around the north that's the name of the Yeah, very cool Well, that was found by location. I didn't enter all these locations I use I after researching what could be useful. I Decided to go with geo names database that is publicly available and It has also a lot of aliases and old names in it. So I think it's served best for what I need Okay Um, so if you want to hear when you go into detail And on the if there are multiple Profiles in the same place. They are displaced a bit. So you can see Nice each one separately. Um And what is drone? So here we start with the red bullet if birth location is known Then we have a erode line to the death location Which should be somewhere So out of here be in Toronto for Some of those anyways come there Um, and then if it's also in categorized, um, then the line is extended to the cemetery After the build up Oh neat I don't think I see that here. Okay, roseanne. I thought well, I wonder if I put it in Because roseanne They're all the same cemetery, but did I put it in? No, oh, I need I need to go back Yeah Yeah Um, so it would even then end the line would end at the cemetery I'm also think of adding the childbirth events in the path and marriage location but This This wasn't really very Used until now Right the marriage. I really would like to the marriage location the marriage location would be really cool I like the the idea of the childbirth events too, but that could get really messy with My big french canadian family It was yeah, but you just showed the Family migration the problem would be only if mother and father moved separately No, that's true too. Yes. Yes And I mean many many of the many of them would be born in the same spot anyway So it's not but you're right for migration Yeah, especially, you know for those families that were migrating as the kids were being born that would That would show a much clearer picture than just birth death, right? Yeah No, that's it. Actually those are good ideas. I like that Now can I show you the one other app that I think you could do? You go back to ricky tree plus I think I know what you mean the chart you mean, uh, I'm thinking the circles Or or we I'm thinking down at the bottom. Where was it here? The circles you mean this family circles. Yes, that's not my app. Oh, it's not your app. Oh When I saw it there, I thought oh well, he's incorporated into wiki-tree plus Yes, but I just incorporated the filling of the data I talked to the author and he said that it's okay to use it like this Um So who's that we could we could most likely Also incorporate it on wiki-tree itself. Yeah, I'm thinking in the tree. I can yeah in three up It might to be possible to I mean it should be fairly easy to Put it also that So this is kind of um three three dimensional Circle three navigator. So if you go to horizontal view Like this you see me and my brother my parents my grandparents great grandparents In four levels. Oh, you know what? I'm never I've never been coordinated enough to get it to look exactly like that It's always been on and then if you go to the Top view you see here. Here is my starting point. These are me and brother Uh These are our parents. I think right and this one and they are siblings Yeah on the circle are they are siblings and in the boundings in the neighboring circles are parents so It goes it's uh Very similar to your uh fractal tree. Yes the logic You just don't display the siblings Right. Yes. I don't yeah, I don't display the siblings on the fractal tree Yeah Now if you have if two brothers married two sisters to the circles overlap, they must right? I don't know Okay Um, but this is navigatable three. So I think if you click here Yes, uh, no, you can also restart the uh, oh restart the thing you can, uh We like put a different person as the primary. Yeah, it's like a starting point But I don't think it's really I didn't uh, I mean I wrote I did try it when I was Working on it, but it's not here is the Oh, okay Okay, I don't know So these are oh, it's new version. I think I was writing it for 007 So these are family circles viewer. It's an extension That was on jenica.com And uh They have such a model Like this and you can then fill it With predefined stored data or I do it, uh, live from, uh And what it is from victory plus data Maybe someone can write to fill it with the api. So you would actually get your locations And images also can be edited. I like that idea. I like that. Yes, but I I I don't import images No to victory plus. So if we if we did do this on the tree. Yeah on three up this could be I think this is Few day work for some programmer. I can help with Data preparation since I already did it Okay Very cool. Okay their model Well, I see David Weinberg is in the chat and he was he's been helping out with act october 5th. Welcome to the team david Interesting this david can we tempt you to tackle this one? Okay, so we'd have to find yeah, great Anyway, so I think we've come to the end. Uh It looks like, uh, azure was trying to help someone out. Um Someone was saying that they get a blank screen yoka so that the wiki tree map is or the map the map is blank or everything The map is blank for everything or everything So, um, if it's blank, um Usually maybe you did start this Before and kind of lost settings. So you have to go into layers And then you select which background you want to see And you have to turn on the persons. Um, and uh, how do you watch the data or by? Uh, so most likely you have everything deselected here And then you have just blank screen like this Okay This is the place that we I noticed Occasionally with some users, um So you have to go to the layers part and Turn things on right by default by default. They are they are on but If you start it wiki tree Wiki tree plus maps in the past they could be messed up. That's right. Yeah the only the other thing The only other thing that happens to me sometimes is if I'm zoomed way out and there's like there's no data points in the That area that I've zoomed out to Um, so if you zoom, you know, there's zoom you zoom in and there's no data points So if you zoom out so you can see the whole world Ideally you'll should see someone Um, or you could put it you put the name in again. Hi, you mean like this like that exactly Exactly like that Yeah That worked. Okay. We got it working for yoka. Excellent Okay Well here, I would also mention that profiles of relatives are just one Of the possibilities here. Um, you can also Do search Oh And now we can do Uh This uh Cemetery for instance, I don't know what I will get here We'll see Usually this is better to be done from the plus itself. Yes So here you have a search where and when you have results You want to see you just click the map It displays the same contents. So it's 2800 profiles Um It's thinking No, it's not thinking Fair enough. It should be in new mexico. So it should be in the states Okay It's this is there we go. It's quite big data set. So yeah 20. It's hard to display 20 000 2800 profiles on a map with uh Migration. Yes, exactly. It's usually better to display to search for smaller amount I have some limits. I think at 5000 profiles That makes sense, but maybe I should make them smaller Yeah, especially with such a cemetery like this Yeah This was a huge cemetery, right? Yeah Very cool um Give anything else usually I think around Yeah, uh, usually around 500 profiles can be mapped nicely. Anything more is usually just a big mess It really is Okay, but here, okay besides the persons you have four more five more sections to display. So one is cemeteries Uh, you can hear, uh Here is a map of all cemeteries that doesn't work Because the cemeteries import failed today, I think Oh, right, right. So that's why I have all the red there. Okay, this is working a few hours Okay Yeah, we've made more work for for alash or his servers made more work for him Someone made Um Okay, but here you can also What's the congregate? There was a an option there for congregations. What's that about? Mm-hmm. Uh, well, we have a whole category structure for congregations You mean like churches? I think so But okay here we can also, uh Uh, yeah, this wasn't finished import wasn't finished So it doesn't work at the moment. It will in a few hours, right, but you can display, uh, open street map cemeteries So these are cemeteries from open street map Um It's marked with osm and when you come closer, it also shows you the name Um of the cemetery Uh, so I have also wicked possibility to display wicked data cemeteries so, um And from geo names database, uh, nice, uh, I didn't use the find the gray wires because it's proprietary I don't But the other ones are open source Yeah, these are all available to be used For non-profit almost always Nice, that's good So you get, um, we could find the gray oh even uh-huh Oh, this is from uh same actually but so there should be Uh strange Okay, this is a wicked risk category Also here It has this find the grave cemetery and also on wicked data Oh, no, this is a wicked. Okay. This is wicked data cemetery that is connected to find the grave cemetery. Okay, right okay, yeah this Q uh item The cemetery and one like one of the links is find the grave cemetery ID Okay, so the link together. Yeah, they would probably also display it here And uh, gn are geo names cemeteries. So there I have only locations And you can show it on geo names Okay, so this is uh for cemeteries. Um, I mean here these options color by location or by parent are interesting But they are not working at the moment. Right. Yes. Well until we get that. Yeah Uh, but locations are working so I can maybe So here all locations, uh, category location categories are displayed that have a coordinate in wiki 3 Okay So that's the important part to enter coordinate right And now I am coloring these lines by the parent of a category Oh, so usually Usually, uh, they should be grouped together. So this is All these are Have one parent and the neighboring parent and so on Oh, okay So these are groups of Groups related cemetery of locations in the same location parent location Um Then you can also color by grandparents I didn't switch I need to turn on grouping also Okay, now you all you already start to get the Maybe the state's impressions a larger. Look at that. Um Yeah, here are here is a mixture because different levels of locations are mixed between themselves. So we have one that Hell fluorida is a parent for instance, and then we have all the uh counties that has that Um All the places in the county that have county as a parent. So usually we have multiple Networks overlapping But here for instance, this green one Is obviously the fluorida one Yeah, and it looks okay. If it would jump Somewhere far. Yes, then that's like this one at the far horizontal line Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh that's most likely the mistake Yeah Uh Or not. I mean it has it needs to be checked, but it can be done all from here. So right This has probably plus instead of minus for longitude. Oh, yes. Yes I do correct a few of them each week like a lot That's right often there is just a type of On a coordinate, but sometimes it can be completely wrong Azure does that? Yeah Azure has a question. Can the one place studies option exclude cemeteries from its list It could but at some point it was said that cemeteries are part of one Uh Place studies and I think they somehow get into the category structure of one all cemeteries are categories of one place study I also don't like this because we have actually A few hundred of one place studies, but here seven eighty thousand are displayed Uh, so this is something that needs to be resolved. I could actually manually remove the cemeteries from this, but Probably azure need to say that she that's what she wants because Um, I don't know who but it was said that at some point that All cemeteries Cemetery categories are automatically one place study Which is kind of logical It's kind of logical, but yeah, if you're if you really only want to see this we have such a good Cemetery is Cemetery categorization it's not really, uh Useful to Replicate Because it overshadows the Like if you really want to just what where are the towns that are being The one place studies if there's only six hundred and thirty or so of the one place studies Those are the six hundred and thirty dots you care about not the Okay, this this work. You see you see all the counties here That is really nifty That is very cool That I like that. Uh, it's a similar picture in cemeteries section, but Yeah Okay, so, um, yeah Should contact me and we'll work something out. She said that she'll chat offline. Yeah Then this is geography part here I have some Actually the imported things into Use so I don't know I displace I I think I have us states and can the canadian states imported And some regions I have to turn it on Geo names is also here part of the so this is all from geo names First five items So they do kind of switch what is displayed is changed as you zoom in Oh Um, there we go more and more details displayed Nice And then when you are really close, um You have, uh A circle that these are these two Dots That display how many locations were matched to this location Oh, okay So Bavaria, Germany. It's just one Uh, uh, Lochmar Lochmar Was have all this all this location Here you have actually the list of all locations That were you were talking about 2.2 million Unique locations on wiki 3 Great. Yes. So here are all the locations that I translated to Lochmar Really? Yes, so some of these are our historic names and not current names, right or mostly. Yes. They are aka or Historic or who knows what? No, actually, it's just the region Both there is not listed actually anywhere. It's too small It's not part of the It's not part of geo names database for now So it just found Lochmar and Further on it didn't find found anything within this region Um, because I do very specific search word by word actually from coma to coma Right for a location And then I narrow down the search to get to the most Likely place right or enter to location So here you can actually examine how the location was recognized and in case of some error you can report to me or But here as you can see, I do understand Germany, Bavaria, Germany, Empire Deutschland All those things that are built in to victory plus Nice. Also. Also, I can I do understand them without commas Yeah So this is The best I could do On a large scale right Because I do have to check Quite some millions of locations Exactly two million 47 million all together Wow Actually, it was quite impressive in that stat out of the What it was 47 million you know 47 78 million location, right? Oh Well, it was over it. It was the number that was actually mappable to an actual country was 98 99 it was uh, so we have location count is Uh, 24 million birth location 17 million death locations and five million Marriage locations. So that's 47 million 47. I thought it was 47 number But 46 plus the private one. Yeah. Yeah So it was it's impressive that You know the vast majority really are mappable I work with Geographic information systems for my whole life. So I'm good at something Yeah, I did I did well it took a while before I decided that geonames will be the best name to use on Global scale I did for Ireland I did use a different data source Because they complained that this doesn't All the town lands they used so for Ireland I Ireland I have I do use town lands IE But for no other place there was such there were such requests that Yeah Well, I think in our like that is very specific Those those things. Um, we what I think we have we have one last And then we should go Your voice is going to give out on us if we don't stop soon, but uh, yoke has one last question She Map shows all the names for all the people I rest it for a whole day today. You did a well Okay, but I'm feeling bad because you're with the cop. I don't want to make you more sick. I don't want to have a relapse Um, can she switch off the names and just see the arrows the doc in the arrows? Uh on the map. Yeah Instead of all the names in the way sort of thing. Um Um The arrows are on persons. Yeah, so she can When you open that up first in that location are the uh, uh dots Blue and red dots. Mm-hmm So she can turn it off and she only has the arrows. Okay It's still messy, but it's still messy, but yeah And the other way is to put just the dots on then you have something like this Which doesn't tell much no, okay if you are from england and uh, They were migrating towards west Which is commonly known No, she says that's not the question. Okay Okay, what exactly don't she want to see the dots and the arrows but not the people's names So she wants dots and she wants the migration arrows But she doesn't well I don't see the people's names there. Oh, I guess if you zoom in close enough then the people's names start appearing Is that right when you zoom in you see the names Uh, so you would turn off just the names. Yes. That's what she's wondering You can adjust the scale so that they disappear. That's one possibility But if that's something that you really need I can most likely Make a separate option to exclude to turn on off the names. Okay. I think that's what she's asking for so if that's not If you can add that to your list, I think that's I was I was already thinking of also But that location do we do I do that by two options? Right But at the beginning I decided to display it both at once and that's it. It makes sense for the Adjust it a lot. I mean, yeah Okay Well, there you go. Yoko you've just made a feature request. That's an indeed what she wants Request the things and I will most likely make them A lesh is amazing that way So to keep you being amazing. I think we need to cut this off so you can rest that voice Check out what's happening with those cemeteries get those reports. I'm sorry. I'm giving you more work now, but um You were gonna do it anyways. I know right So it's not like I'm making you do it. Um, but now that we found it out Um, the cemeteries I'm sure will be working up and running again Uh shortly later today Uh, thank you again a lesh for joining us for the month and we'll see you the first week of december I don't think either of us have anything else going on that first wednesday of december That we know of right now So we should be back on the regular struggle um, and uh Thank you all who have joined us here in the chat and those who are watching after the fact And again, if you have other questions or suggestions for lesh Send him a message reply to one of the gg g posts or put them um, I mean you could put a mess a Comment in the video youtube video, but the gg g posts or on discord is Well on video it won't most likely won't be seen because only a owing gets notified. That's right. Yes That's right. Yeah So Yeah anywhere else anywhere else anywhere else Like this video and uh, have a great week. We'll see you around. Thanks a lesh. Bye. Bye