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What you have to do is put hashtag social Friday, hashtag one in the morning at Y254 channel on our Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Karibuni Sana to the Advertising Edition where we're talking about advertisements, all types from back in the day, present day and even things that we might expect to come in the future. Today on set with us we've got Miss Jean Ojiro, wonderful tall beauty. Karibuni Sana, help me welcome her. Thank you. Yes, Madam model, Madam actress, Madam advertise. What do we have called people in advertisements? Commercial models. Commercial models, okay, commercial models and runway model and as well as, I've just said it as well. Okay, Jean, don't let me down. And I've just mentioned it. You said Madam model. Madam model, yes. Akari Busan. Asante. We got to have you back. Yeah, I'm so happy to be back. How have things been for you? It's been good, it's been good. Yeah. I think how many people have come, that's why my voice is a bit hoist. It's a bit hoist. It's a bit hoist, please ask me. Yeah. We're just about to sing in your kind of sautia. So now I'll just watch it. Why kwaivi? I suppose by the simple like that voice. I take that voice. Okay. See it sounds nice. But now, how many home are you? Compliments Nisha Chukwa. How many home are you? How many? I take that. I take you and you compliment me. Ah, Nisha Chukwa. Anyway, moving on. Moving on. How many are you? I take that off air. She's pretty. Yes. For the record. Thank you. So that's why by the way, I think you've been making it a lot of advertisements. So we're going to be touching a little bit about the advertisements that you've been in. Okay. A bit later on. But before we do that, can I start off by letting the public know what advertising really is? Sitwansa visuri. If we're going to start, let's start from the beginning. In the beginning it's called an introduction. And so basically, advertising is an activity or profession of producing advertisements for commercial products or services that are basically collectively to sell a product, to sell a brand, to make something go further. That's what we're discussing today. Okay. And let me ask, if you can think back, what would you say is your favorite advertisement? That often or any advertisement at all? We'll touch about yours soon. My favorite advertisement, I think, is Soko Gali. Really? Yeah. Because it's so catchy. It's catchy. What's your favorite advert? Did you wash? Fahiba. You need it anytime. Fahiba? Yes. Fatboy. Yeah. Okay. Those guys are creative, you know. Okay. What's your favorite? What? What is my favorite advertisement? Dawambia. Good day, Dawambia. Is it okay for you to laugh now? Sawasawa. Okay. Sawasawa. Sawasawa. So, let's go right in. How long have you been doing your annual modeling and commercial modeling, especially when it comes to advertisements? Commercial modeling is about a year now. A year now? Yeah. How you liking it? I love it. How is it treating you? Really well. It's really well? I feel good, smile on your face. Really well. Yeah, really well. Okay. Say, it's a lucrative kind of work so someone looking into it can be assured that they'd be somehow comfortable. And how did you get into it? What made you interested in coming from the runway, a model model, how did you now get into advertisements? I actually started with commercial modeling, that's when I started venturing into runway later on. Okay, so it's either way round? Ya, it's either way round. Okay. But I've always been so fascinated by ads, you know whenever you see an ad you're like wow, I just want to be on one, I just want to be on one, so I just started going for auditions. So I went for my first one, my second one, my third one, then my fourth one I managed to get. Okay. Ya, and from there on I started, I get some, I lose some, but I always keep going for auditions. And the ones that you went for, what kind of genres were they? Because every time I look at advertisements, they have a different mood to them. One is happy, one is about mothers, one is about babies, one is sad. Okay. What kind of adverts were you going to audition for? The first one that I went for was actually an alcoholic brand. Okay. One that I've done was telecommunication. Okay. Another one was comedic, it had a serious message behind it, but it was carried out in a comedic way. And another one was a message through dance, like through dance. Okay. Ya. A message through dance. Aha, I see. As you auditioned, you said that you went for the first one, the second one, the third one, and then you got it the fourth time. Ya. Are you saying that you got rejected three times? Ya. For what reason? You never really know. I was going to ask you, what do they say when they say no? No, we don't want you for this advert. Like how do they come to? Not the funny part is, they don't tell you no. When you go for an audition, you usually ask they should date. So when you see that this is approaching and you haven't been contacted, Juatu. Juatu. Juatu. So basically they just don't contact you. They don't contact you. That's how you know it's unknown. Ya, but it's usually written there. There's usually a form that you sign with your details. It only says only contacted people will be those who have gotten it. Okay. Ya, so when that date reaches and you haven't been contacted, you just wait for the next one. Wait for the next one. Ya. And so the fourth time around is when you got it. Ya. What did you get the fourth time around? Which ad I got? Ya. That was the Guinness ad. Aha, interesting. Ya. That's interesting. That maybe we can see a bit of it later on. Okay. And when we're talking about, you know right now, now that you bought up Guinness, there's a debate I was having a couple months ago with some of the presenters here who some of them are being changed and I was like oh my gosh, I'm having a real problem with how many billboards are going up that you've got to do with alcohol. Okay. Like every single place where you turn your head, it's a billboard for booze, billboard for booze, billboard for booze. Nothing against the fact that you did one. No, no. But what do you think? What is it that you're trying to push so much? What do you think is behind the message of it? I feel like it's just regular advertising like any other product would be advertised and the good part is that they do put restrictions in that if you're below age you shouldn't drink it. So I don't think there's any problem with it per se. I feel like it's how people choose to take it. Okay. Ya. How people choose to take it. Ya. So maybe I'm the one who chose to take it a bit too deep. I was having a problem. What do you feel did you wash about? So did you come on now? Like for me I find like there are too many billboards for alcohol out there. Ya. Well, I think advertisement takes a lot of money. Okay. So I think it's who can afford it. Okay. Okay. I don't think any other business can maybe be able to put up. Afford to put up. Ya, I understand. I get where you come from. And I'm glad that you brought up strategy because now I want to talk about strategy when it comes to advertising. See what I did. Ya. Yes. See what you did you washed it. But I see what you did there. But now strategy kiddo go because now that we've said it you know how you take it. Ya. You've talked about depends where you place this things and then depends who's able to afford to put that billboard wherever it is. Ya. Strategy. Is there a strategy to advertising and to placing things in particular places? And for someone who's been in advertising do you think that what I'm saying is true what he said was true? Ya. About strategy. Ya, definitely. Ya. Definitely. I believe that there definitely has to be a strategy towards what you do in your advertisement if it's a billboard where you put it because especially for TVC's the advertisements that go on TV you have to make sure it's catchy because if it's not then nobody will watch it till the end and that's why ads are really short. You won't find an ad being over one minute because people's attention will have switched off by then. That's true. Ya, so you have to make it as exciting or as informative as possible within that time so that people can get your message and still be with you. And about billboards you have to place them strategically because if you're placing them places where people don't pass no one is going to see it and your message won't be carried home. Yes, that's very true. Ya. And when you said strategy and you're so proud of yourself you're going to say ma nini. Expound. Yes. Actually, So anyway, actually about TV if you check where the ads are usually placed like kati-katiya program flani and if you're a killer you're going to watch your strategy. Ya. And you're so proud of yourself. There are news times well according to me I think you have to pay a lot of money actually time your news Ya, I think because of time it's peak hours you have to pay a lot of time and there are news times. I think billboards are major highways. Yes. Who is the miss? Whatsoever. You can't miss that. Very true. It's true. Ya, true. A lot of advertisements by the way is going to play at a specific time. Ya. For example the ones which are playing during prime news as does Yona maybe at let's say in the afternoon. And again if you check Kogalikwan gets was watching prime news many are watching. It was a prime time when you're like a prime time you're going to do you're going to do. Ya. And there are two. Ya. And you'll never find Kogalik ads going on during the day just at night. Hmm. Prime time. Prime time. Okay. And then the people who are watching prime news also particular people who can buy particular things. Ya. Aha. Before we go further because now we're talking about present advertisement. Okay. We'll continue with present advertisement. I'd like us to check some videos about advertisement. Look at those days back in the day. We look at the differences. So now that we're talking about present feel freeing my guys up there to play them. Joint loss!ведus. Kaka, do you when 1995 came along? Kwa ni mulutua? Like where were you? Obviously I should ask you what are y'all doing kufa mnaya prioritat ahaj 1 thes ni heatu mazia So from the 90s going forward like that, I don't know how you guys think about them. What mood does it give you compared to the mood for nowadays? Especialy let's say lea kasugu, lemsi ya ki rabi kitabi, rabi in the kitabi like this. I don't know if such things can fly nowadays, but I think a lot of the fiber ones have been seen something similar to that. It's a very comedic kind of advertisement. I will move on to the next one, the lady who was cooking that kastu, whatever. I don't think advertisements have changed that much. Electric may change labdani village navana, something maybe on the quality of the herbs. Yeah, I don't know. I think those are the changes that I have been able to perceive. Are there any others that you'd like for us to check out? Let's see this one. And I proudly remember this one. Decated throat lozenges. They've got kingo medication with mental and eucalyptus that clears the throat and clears the nose. They really work. My nose is clear and my throat feels much better, a Santesana. Why should we be living in a one of our other one? I wish you could see it. I remember that in advertisement one. That was the one for Vicks Kingo. I think what has changed basically is what I'm noticing. A lot of the people are older people in advertisements like fathers, mothers, young ladies like you. I've not really seen that. I've seen mainly all the ladies. If everyone was cooking, it seemed like a mother type. I don't know what was up with that. Maybe they thought that it was only for adults to do. More ladies would be interested. That was the target market. More ladies would be interested. Mothers as well. Because if it was a young chick cooking, we'll be like, what you know about cooking? It seemed like most of the ads just have individuals. Now you'll find more ads with a lot of people in that. That's something I've noticed as well. And once they're like, oh look at this, look at these photographs. Let's talk about the photos coming up. Bun Vita. Bun Vita to the biscuit. Koko. Okay. Good enough. Koko. Who doesn't know Koko? No one has Koko. Hei, Badoiko. Badoiko. Badoiko. Badoiko. Badoiko. Badoiko. We got him strong. But he's not strong enough. Patko. I'm not sure if he's a man or not. Patko is a man. If he's not strong enough, I'll say, I would say he's a man. You will say you're a man, but I'll say he's not strong enough. I still think he's a man. This ice cream. Ice cream. Ice cream to popsicle. Ice cream. Ice without the cream. Oh, tuita. Tuita. Ah, what's the name of the tuita? TV shows. Tuita Badoiko. Ah. Quant confusing recently Last video no renew do you guys think benima waga kushili Like home Kwao maiki baka What's up guys Shoo Ram Casa Now comptaрас Thinking kakera So dita Ya, kwa n الفu lwa bando. Mwa isu. Likluki ya, dea hair, siji kwa nini. Dea escraba. A 20 bob. I have one as well. 20 bob was on a note. Ata 5 na 10. Really? Mimba dun kuna zi. 5 bob na onayu hakiku wa tui. Aki fadeli. Nkei boi, ii luksi yam. Look at that, it looks like, it looks young. I like, oh. 34. It's the last time we checki wa say wa kihangkwa basivi. I'm in Delhi in Kenda, home. Do you know what, I like this design of Kenya basiveta. I think it looks nice. I love this because. Checki taxi. Isi bados me paki wa wukoneni. What's that hotel called? Tanme sahaw. Ziko? Ya, there's parts to this. Ya. Nice. Checki airport city. Ya, oh, I'm in Delhi. Zanguka. Nilikonan bizo basitil ko zina zunguk. You guys, memorable places. Cinema. Ya. Wimpy. What? I used to love that place. Kenya cinema. This one, they used to say love movies. Do you know they don't? Where? Kenya cinema. Kisiju. Aijachama, your place, aijabisana. Kolboks. Kolboks. Ilu kwa palikuneni. Checki tu. Chwa chwa chwa. Eh, this kolboks, we had one outside our church. Do you think those things can still be relevant? Chwa chwa kolboks? Yes. I don't think so because we are mostly people who have phones. Muki ya? Chuma. I remember this. Eh, this one had the snake, where? Emblobs. Hele gimi, a snake. Hele gimi, a snake. Hele gimi, a snake. Not to forget. Mazi wa ya nyayu. KCC, school milk. Hot com. Ah, gimi skukunya yu mazi wa afani. Ini hot com. Ini nukuliku afani, ini na kiniki na kikom bepia. Ah. You never did that? Steaming water? Ah, yeah, steaming water. Chako. No wonder. Eh, niyo. Maki nimi sku kwan mezaliwa. Keza maswani na uliwa mazaliwa. Did you guys drink your school milk? Eh, I wasn't born. Kwan mezaliwa. How come mezaliwa? Me, I think klingzaliwa laki nimi sku tukunya wa. I don't know. I think I just didn't like milk. I think I didn't like milk for one year. I think nasari pikiaki. Naduute ma kukuna bibi klasu ni inini. Nasari klasu waan. Katumi song. Come and learn. Mazi. Before we go to those of us, how did you guys like? What did you see? Do you feel old? Kiasi. Kiasi, see India. I feel old India. You know what we need to do over here, by the way, producers, we need to try not to feel old challenge because this was bad. Try not to feel old and I haven't felt old. Some of them made me feel young, because half of them I wasn't born yet. Really? Yeah. Nasiri patko. I used to really like patko, and nowadays I've tried to remake them and I'm not sure if it's the same. Sku zia tasi bob. Bob. 3, 4, 10 bob. I think the economy here in Afanya, to be able to enjoy kitambu zini ni. Kwanza ilkunga 50 cents in the times? Ilkunga 50 cents in the times? Manzi zile Britani, unukunga Britani. Okuna 5 bobel ko boala. Yes. Things have changed me time. So now let's talk about a little bit when you come to eye catching things, because advertisements, normally the whole thing that, ok, the basis behind advertisements we would catch your eye note to sell a product. Now, when it comes to advertisements from the states, there's a big saying, sex sells. Nona, basically a chick who's not, you know, covered too much would be more probable to sell your product. Depending on which product that is. Depending on which product that is. But they actually say any product. Atakama ni bigiji. And product yam toto. Not product yam toto, just anything. Anything that they try to do, they try and include a lady. But I've noticed advertisements here in Kenya quite different. That's a part where I had to just shikasana. But then later on we look at some of the present advertisements. And we'll try and see the use of, I don't know, kama they've tried to use sex to sell. When I say sex I'm not meaning the way you mean. I mean using a lady to sell a product. Because people say by the way kama ni dem wana buy. Even quite easy. Easy billboards are betting for example. Not too many ladies bet. Not many by the way. But there's a chick there endorsing the betting. But then it's for guys as well. And yes because it catches the eyes of the guy. So kuna yu trick that advertising uses wana. So I don't know if our producers are ready for us to check out some of the new ones. But if not we could just continue talking a little bit about some of the differences. This one I've seen on TV. Ni sinia kuiba ni ni kredi pchama. And as we fix our technical hitch let's move right along. Yes as I was saying before. Izizaku bet for example. You can see that the views are made even if most of the time it's men who are betting. And if I really want to go deep like deep deep deep then people will say like ah there is the light skinned lady and you know that's a whole. Kenyans are like how you think. Not one of Kiriangayi woman really. That the lighter you are the easier it is to sell a product. And if you're a female you're definitely going to sell that product. Have you ever gone for a car show? Where they sell cars because there are no many cars. But who are standing there in beautiful dresses and makeup ladies. So the question is what is it about us that makes people want to buy things. About ladies that make people want to buy things. I feel like someone is automatically more attracted to someone of the opposite gender. So they can use that to help them. So would you buy things because it's being advertised by a man? Depends on what it is. Depends on what it is. And depends if he's a good looking man too. Maybe. I think we can say this soap which had ran out of fashion. Cassons. See they put a billboard of Cassons up at Juicy with a nice looking handsome man up at Gios. Like Cassons is back into fashion. Nor do Cassons nile sabun yuta tumia yoka ratasi ita nohuer. That paper goes nowhere. Kuna baki kakiwaka ulemi. Napa duni ni kutua? Cassons. I used to use that while growing up. And back to Mr. Jiro. When you're doing advertisements, what are some of the things that you feel we can change as a country maybe when it comes to putting messages forward. When it comes to billboards as well as TVCs. From my point of view or what I've experienced, I don't think there's anything that if I'd go back I'd do differently honestly. Because all the things that I've done I feel like were done in the best way they could be done. Yeah. Okay. On your end? I think that there's a lot we need to learn. I think we're talking to one of our, you know how you have these discussions with people. And you look at some of this. Advertisements are sold in Africa. They're really well done. And I'm not trying to put Kenya down, but I'm saying that there's a lot that Kenya can learn when it comes to advertising. Putting forth a message. Trying to set out branding and everything. And when it comes to the issue of branding first of all, I find it quite a shaky ground. Speaking of yourself especially and then we'll come to your branding even DJs need to have their own brand. When it comes to branding you wear so many hats. How would you go forth branding yourself or publicizing yourself to the people? What I define myself as. Yes. Initially I usually started with Komashu model because I feel like that's what I do most of. And then social media influencer and now runway model. Social media influencer and now runway model. Yes. Okay. I saw a sour. And how about you? Wash. Wash is an entertainer. He's a professional DJ. And when it comes maybe to if you want to hold a gig or something you're more of a marketer because it comes like a package. At the same time you also deal with sound hiring out of machines. Yes of course. So basically that's it. Okay. Well those are your brands. Now I want to talk a little bit about something that is a bit fishy. Okay. These phones that we're holding in our hands. I don't know if you can sleep these two cameras to go kumbele. There's a time I watched a video on YouTube. I'm one of those people. I like these videos where I want to chambuavitu. I like kuchambuavitu. I like getting to the root of things. Okay. No not udaku. Understanding something to the bottom of it. Okay. Yeah. And so I'm going to watch a video which was saying something I don't know the nice word is data mining data mining however you want to pronounce it. Data data. Kiyona sasa for example you and Jean let's say you walk out of here monzeko on gastoria Jean tells you by the way ume by yo nini what have you bought this set for parania I want to spin I want to learn how to spin blah blah blah Mutembe mikiongia iwo Jean you fika home you go to YouTube you see a small advertisement over there written parania selling nini discs have you ever been in a fishy situation like that yeah you're like amai you're thinking about something and then the advertisement comes on the bottom I understand what you're saying. You understand what I'm saying. Actually let me tell you what is really happening. Yes please. There's something called integration like they have integrated your apps. Yes. Whatever you're going to search on maybe let's say whatever you're going to Google search let's say you're going you want to buy the machine when you log into Facebook it's going to come there as an advert when you log into Instagram it's going to come there as an advert they can never ever bring an advert that you have never ever checked because not relevant to your history relevant so if I go to my Google something then most likely I shall find it even on YouTube that's usually the same thing you can watch the same video but as the people see a difference based on your history and your interest and so yeah this is what I'd like to read you guys out it says data mining this is like personalized ads what we're talking about right now and how major networking companies monitor you every day and sell your info to bidders and so I like the angle that you guys have taken that this is probably just something to do with your interests but the word I've seen here is monitor and remember when I started when I started that question remember I started by saying you see this camera here and then I started by I was watching a video on YouTube and I was watching a video on YouTube and this person has completely managed this people have completely managed to convince me that we are being watched there is a money but again what you're saying is well it can be true but again I think you're being sceptical about it because I don't think unless someone has really hacked into your device and again they didn't have interest in whatever you're doing in you as a person but personally me when you mean as a me easy easy it was a way but ya kusiku where you're very skeptical unless you're doing online shopping and all that because of payment blah blah blah but if you're just watching and getting to search and getting knowledge we're in the layer too leave it at that I'll just tell you more what do you think about what he has said Jean because it sounded like when I was seeing the monitoring thing even me sometimes at night when I'm using my computer I'm like it's not watching me someone watching me ya but I'm just paranoid but I do know that they have ways of getting what you use like your data ya once again the practice of examining in large pre-existing databases in order to generate new information so I don't know man data mining scares me it really does scare me and I do believe I mean I don't know ya I'm one of those one actually tangajik where you do conspiracy theorists ya I'm those ones ya can ya na same by the data mining it's real it's happening because even that amtumanya na tangajineza tseime wambia tangajineza application size uta tangajineza villya ita kubenefit ya ya why would I know to include data mining on my app to beneficial beneficial to me so the problem comes when Derek watakuni pegesim it happens when whoever is getting the data use it the wrong way ya labdaku zia watu tukamu ya tseisapundi na kwailegul ya ya okay so Jean let's get back to your advertising okay ya what was the first one that you remember working on? the first one was the Guinness the Guinness one and the most recent one? the most recent one hasn't been released so I can't speak on it but one that has been released was kind of a music video kind of an ad was Chooja the campaign Chooja the campaign and I think our producers are going to get those videos for us so that we can watch some of your it's me I'd like to watch her by the way well I've already seen them but we'll let some of our people watch them and they'll continue to play as we talk and let me ask where do you see yourself going in terms of advertising I know your runway model and all that stuff and last time you came when we were focusing on the model edition that's what we discussed and you noticed I'm kind of focusing on a different side because today is advertising edition so I want to focus on that side of you how far and where do you want to take this advertising aspect of yourself hoping to go international you know a lot of times there are castings here but they're short somewhere else so in the near future I'm hoping that I managed to land one and what's something I'm comfortable you think you can't do in an advertisement what's something you can't advertise for I don't know you say I'm not advertising something like that but hey I'm not advertising that when it comes to advertising I'm usually really open minded really Khaidu and advertisement for condoms what oh my god I'm just looking because it's just a job you know it's a job yeah okay, so so I'll tell you oh my god just one the audience I want to let you know we're going to keep talking we're going to keep talking but Jean's videos are going to keep showing in the back so look at them as we talk I was going to ask you you have to answer okay see last my kwaia condoms which advertisement can you use anything maybe that is against my beliefs maybe against your morals or your Christian or like to come and name me come a four booze is not again I mean booze is against booze no so what would you say about booze like how you did it quick with that answer no see only so far see only but in kapatao na kitu kama iyo I think it is funny because I may bring you up in a very very yeah okay straight and narrow not well by the time we bring you up kiku ala zimu uta kama kuchaguni nizako but I think it is funny add you're what you're in and go again is to what I believe in so this is the Fuliza advert isn't it yeah this is the dance on that I was saying alright we're just going to be looking at it even though it's going to be in the mute kind of volume what message are you trying to portray forth here this was literally so this is the main guy so if you follow this message from the beginning it's like he comes to buy clothes and it goes on and on like that he comes to the hospital his wife has just given birth doesn't have money to pay and a Fuliza at the shop and a Fuliza so it just shows Fuliza can cover you in any situation ka una cash una Fuliza wherever you are okay so aha I understand yeah alright and as they're bringing up the next one me I can't do an advert for ayo gani okay I can't do an advert for Kondo really me only if it's something really moral or something that I stand against yani yani tako to like why did you even do that I don't even believe in that but why not how about an advert for Fair and Lovely right now I'm doing this in Lovely I can't do Fair and Lovely but if I were using Fair and Lovely it's a bleaching it actually bleachers doesn't it I've never used it doesn't it I remember my aunts used to use it but I've never used it personally now for example those are the ones I can't do because now it looks like I'm advocating for bleaching it's something you're against because I'm against bleaching so I can't go and do for Fair and Lovely if it's something you're against then I feel like you shouldn't do it yeah don't market something you're against alright alright look at that nasty face you're making what happened there what was going on so what happened here this is Barak Chakuzi oh guy you look so disgusted by what is going on you're a really good actress really good facial expression oh my gosh so this advertisement was Chujya and it was an advertisement against all the sources of fuel that was pollution so hapa so I was trying to eat it but the smell was just I couldn't stand it that's that face that's that face I love it oh my gosh oh my lord alright can we see the next one this is for me oh by the way Jean is also a dancer and I love that a few of my ads are dance ads that's you over there right there in the middle of the high bun apu apu so here you are getting down you're saying something you like the ones for dancing yeah cause it's like two in one you're doing two things you love in one yeah you're dancing and doing adverts yeah what was happening in this one this was advertisement for poor Mikola so literally it's poor Mikola that's the dance so you're pouring Mikola oh pouring Mikola yeah okay okay still come on me I'll ever have a dancing bound within me la kini whatcha doing I took a biscuit and got my tuna me me got my tuna rumba milliona paniki katika kama suji that time I was the only one dancing in the whole studio yes man can you see the smile on my face I can see it's a really big smile as I was like oh my god you enjoyed yourself it's not even usually forced imagine it's journey from love it comes from love yeah okay sawa sawa and are you thinking of opening any I don't know training where you can help people maybe in dancing or teach people how to runway model or teach people how to act or present themselves in advertisements as for now I don't think so because I'm still learning and still gaining more knowledge in those fields but maybe in the future when I'm a good enough dancer to be able to teach people and I know everything they would need to know when I'm good enough in commercial modeling and I know like everything behind the scenes then I may consider it okay but for now I'm still learning for now you're still learning and I have to ask you the uncomfortable question everybody wants to know in the beginning you said that advertising was something that you're comfortable with you can depend on are you saying that someone can rely on advertising to pay for bills and pay for food and the clothes on your back is that what you're saying I personally do but it also depends on so what happens for advertisements you get one off payment it's not like every time you get a payment so also depending on your role that's the change how much you get if you're a main cast if you're featuring or if you're an extra but if you do get a feature to main role then it's a good enough pay like if you get one ad per month then it's good enough and then also based on where the ad is going to feature if it's local if it's panafrik if it's international the rate increases and also the duration if the amount you've been paid for is maybe for one year and then they like it and they choose to air it for another year then you're paid again or if it's taken locally and then they like it and they choose to show it in other countries you're paid more but the payment is one off just one off and then it's up to you to manage it so kitu payote too bad for you until the next time an advert comes along alright I see and how does someone get into these advertisements how does someone come along and get them now this is back to the auditions there's usually so many auditions for advertisements and a lot of the time maybe when you go for an audition you're not told what exactly it is obviously to avoid competing brands to know that there's an audition going on but you'll find that a lot of the times what happens in the ad you audition to do something similar like for the Fuliza it was a dance audition for this one you're supposed to app like you're signaling someone to call you caller so it just shows whether because you don't speak so it has to be physically what you can do your actions so the audition is just there to show whether you can deliver yeah I see well I want to share a fun fact I don't think it's a fun fact I think it's a sad fact but do you guys remember this advertisement for Malboro you got it Malboro maybe if I see it Malboro the cigarettes from back in the day alright yeah there was always this guy in a cowboy hat yes yes yes I think I think I think I'm picturing him near a force thank you remember Wilomisa but yes yes you know that kagai with the cowboy hat advertising cigarettes have you noticed that now there's no more advertisement for cigarettes at all at all I think it was Sharia or something yeah Nisharia actually it's one may notice but Wilomisa doesn't connect now you notice you will never see an advertisement for cigarettes ever again why is that it was banned or something no but even on the covers it usually says that it may kill you but we still advertise it but again why would you advertise alcohol but I will say in the beginning and I will say no I'm just saying I think I didn't want to bash her because she's done something but I have a problem with it I have a problem with it why would you advertise alcohol you are sure people will buy it be sure what you want and what you want not even that but sometimes there are offers sometimes there is a new brand you know Angolianguni when you say that women ban cigarettes advertising cigarettes because in a cause cancer I mean Pia ni ni na in a little guanjora liver ni ni alcohol and addiction so I think easy for you ni biasness too yeah how much you take and actually the reason why I was bringing it up is because we are coming to a person's interview and the one fact that I wanted to share was the Marlboro man they did three of them they all died of lung cancer of Marlboro people yeah Huwa wait I didn't know that I thought that was pretty sad back but so yeah that's a really dark side of advertising sometimes but I think we can leave it at that and I think we've learnt a lot and we've asked ourselves a lot of important questions I think we've scratched the surface we've left our viewers with really really nice questions to think about and we've learned a lot about Jean and her new advertisements and what she's been getting up to we've also learned about the kind of angle DJ Wach likes to take and we're so so glad that you guys have spent this time with us on social Friday I've had a blast and as usual I'm going to join this kumichachi on select platforms my name is Jeremy Chachi and I shall be here next Friday as well same time same place have a wonderful weekend